Comments by "Charles Brightman" (@charlesbrightman4237) on "Why All The Planets Are On The Same Orbital Plane" video.
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@benthere4380 Well then:
a. How did the singularity eternally exist and then 'bang' one day?
b. Science says that energy cannot be created nor destroyed, a fundamental principal of physics. So, where did the one iota of energy come from to trigger the singularity to 'bang'?
c. What forces of nature existed to allow the singularity to exist and 'bang'?
d. What forces of nature allowed our current forces of nature to come into existence and stay in existence unchanged for so long?
And then also:
"IF" modern science is correct concerning the singular 'big bang' and how our current forces of nature came into existence, and that energy cannot be created nor destroyed, and that the universe is still expanding thereby making energy in this universe less and less dense:
a. What is going to occur to this universe and all in it probably 'when', not 'if', the forces of nature 'evolve'?
Edit: Since it was expansion of the singularity that supposedly brought our current forces of nature into existence and the singularity is still basically expanding. There would be no reasonable reason why the forces of nature shouldn't 'evolve' one day.
1. BPC: Blink, Poof, Change: In the blink of an eye the forces of nature 'evolve' and wipe out the entire universe and all in it, but yet we retain our consciousness somehow, someway, somewhere, in some state of existence? OR, and more probably:
2. BPG: Blink, Poof, Gone: In the blink of an eye the forces of nature 'evolve' and wipe out the entire universe and all in it, including our consciousness?
3. And possibly occurring in the very next moment of the expansion of this universe.
* So, is modern science truly correct concerning how our current forces of nature came into existence or aren't they? And if we all die in the end anyway, does anything or anyone ultimately matter anyway what is really true or not? At least one species truly has an actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity for life itself to have continued meaning and purpose to, OR none do and life itself is all ultimately meaningless in the grand scheme of things. So, which is it?
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@manuell3505 Well then, consider the following copy and paste from my files:
Consider the 'speed of light':
a. 'Speed' is distance divided by time.
b. 'Distance' is two points in space with space between those two points.
c. If 'space' and/or 'time' did not exist in actual existent reality, except for as concepts, then 'speed' could not exist in actual existent reality, except for as a concept.
d. If 'speed' exists in actual existent reality, then 'space' and 'time' both have to have some sort of actual existent reality.
e. Likewise, 'light' which is currently considered as 'em' also has to have an actual existent reality, in addition to being a concept, for 'light' to exist in actual existent reality, in addition to being a concept.
f. So, if the 'speed of light' actually exists in existent reality, then 'space', 'time', 'speed' and 'light' ('em'), all also have to actually exist in existent reality, otherwise, the 'speed of light' could not actually exist in existent reality, other than just as a concept, (which would put a major kink in a lot of physics formulas).
* So now, you claim 'time' contains nothing but 'air'. Okay, what exactly is 'air'? And if outer space is a vacuum as far as 'air' is concerned, then is there no 'time' in outer space? How could the light and energy from the Sun reach Earth if it could not travel through 'time'? And if the light and energy from the Sun were already one with the Earth, well, the Earth and all upon it would most probably be destroyed. And yet we are still here.
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@benthere4380 And oh also:
"Don’t pat yourself on the back too much for the observation “Life itself is all ultimately meaningless”."
Then consider also the following copy and pastes from my files, (of which you probably won't read also because it would make your eyes glaze over). People can choose to remain ignorant. This is based upon some of my current studies and analysis:
Consider the following:
* There are 3 basic options for life itself, which reduce down to 2, which reduce down to only 1:
a. We truly have some sort of actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity.
b. We die trying to truly have some sort of actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity.
c. We die not trying to truly have some sort of actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity.
* 3 reduced down to 2:
a. We truly have some sort of actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity.
b. We don't. And note, two out of the three options above, we die.
* 2 reduced down to 1:
a. We truly have some sort of actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity.
b. We truly don't have any conscious existence throughout all of future eternity.
(And note, these two appear to be mutually exclusive. Only one way would be really true.)
And then ask yourself the following questions:
1. Ask yourself: How exactly do galaxies form? The current narrative is that matter, via gravity, attracts other matter. The electric universe model also includes universal plasma currents.
2. Ask yourself: How exactly do galaxies become spiral shaped in a cause and effect state of existence? At least one way would be orbital velocity of matter with at least gravity acting upon that matter, would cause a spiral shaped effect. The electric universe model also includes energy input into the galaxy, which spiral towards the galactic center, which then gets thrust out from the center, at about 90 degrees from the input.
3. Ask yourself: What does that mean for a solar system that exists in a spiral shaped galaxy? Most probably that solar system would be getting pulled toward the galactic gravitational center.
4. Ask yourself: What does that mean for species that exist on a planet, that exists in a solar system, that exists in a spiral shaped galaxy, in an apparent cause and effect state of existence? Most probably that if those species don't get off of that planet, and out of that solar system, and probably out of that galaxy too, (if it's even actually possible to do for various reasons), then they are all going to die one day from something and go extinct with probably no conscious entities left from that planet to care that they even ever existed at all in the first place, much less whatever they did and or didn't do with their time of existence.
5. Ask yourself: For those who might make it out of this galaxy, (here again, assuming it could actually be done for various reasons), where to go to next, how long to get there, how to safely land, and then, what's next? Hopefully they didn't land in another spiral shaped galaxy or a galaxy that would become spiral shaped one day, otherwise, they would have to galaxy hop through the universe to stay alive, otherwise, they still die one day from something with no conscious entities being left from the original planet to care they even ever existed at all in the first place, much less that they made it out of their own galaxy. They failed to consciously survive throughout all of future eternity.
6. Ask yourself: What exactly matters throughout all of future eternity and to whom does it exactly and eternally matter to?
Either at least one species truly consciously survives throughout all of future eternity somehow, someway, somewhere, in some state of existence, even if only by a continuous succession of ever evolving species, for life itself to have continued meaning and purpose to, OR none do and life itself is all ultimately meaningless in the grandest scheme of things.
Our true destiny currently appears to be:
1. We are ALL going to die one day from something.
2. We are ALL going to forget everything we ever knew and experienced.
3. We are ALL going to be forgotten one day in future eternity as if we never ever existed at all in the first place.
Currently:
Nature is our greatest ally in so far as Nature gives us life and a place to live it, AND Nature is also our greatest enemy that is going to take it all away. (OSICA)
* (Note: This includes the rich, powerful, and those who believe in the right to life and the sanctity of human life. God does not actually exist and Nature is not biased other than as Nature. Nature does what Nature does in a cause and effect kind of way. Truth is still truth and reality is still reality, regardless of whatever we believe that reality to be. And denying future reality will not make future reality any less real in a cause and effect state of existence.)
** Hence also though, legalizing suicide so as to let people leave this life on their own terms if they wish to do so. Many people and species are going to die in the 6th mass extinction event that has already started, at least some, horrible deaths. Many will wish they could die, and all will, eventually. And the 6th mass extinction event will not be the last mass extinction event for this Earth. But if suicide were legal, at least some people would not have the added guilt of breaking societies' law before doing so. Just trying to plan ahead here. Giving people an 'out' if they wish to take it.
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@manuell3505 You are the one who lost. You make supernatural claims and cannot support your claims. You say that : "You are here to discredit real knowledge, as it is your enemy."
Okay, where is your actual factual evidence of God's actual factual existence? And where is your actual factual evidence that God has 'fingers' that can be 'snapped'?
Reference the following copy and paste from my files, (of which you probably won't read either):
GOD DOES NOT ACTUALLY EXIST.
For those who claim God exists, consider the following:
a. An actual eternally existent absolute somethingness truly existing.
b. An actual eternally existent absolute somethingness that has consciousness, memories and thoughts truly existing.
People who claim God actually and eternally exists basically are claiming that 'b' above is correct but yet simultaneously seem to be saying that 'a' is impossible to occur.
'a' above can exist without 'b' existing but 'b' cannot exist unless 'a' exists.
I am one step away from proving God's existence, but am unable to find any actual evidence to do so. And nobody I've talked to seems to have any actual evidence of God's actual existence either. Hence, at this time in the analysis, God does not actually exist except for as a concept created by humans for humans. Humans have personified Nature and called that personification "God".
In addition, while modern science does not know what consciousness actually is yet, memories and thoughts appear to require a physical correctly functioning brain to have those items occur. Where is God's brain? Where are God's memories stored at? How are God's memories stored and retrieved? How does God think even a single coherent thought?
If inside of this space time dimension we appear are existing in, then where?
If outside of this space time dimension we appear are existing in, then where is the interface between that dimension and this dimension? No such interface has been discovered as of yet as far as I am currently aware of.
* Actual factual evidence please of your supernatural claims, otherwise, enjoy your apparent delusions. See ya.
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"IF" my latest TOE idea is really true, (and I have a gravity test to prove or disprove that portion of the TOE idea, just not the resources to do so), but 'if' true, then the 'gem' photon is the energy unit of this universe that makes up space and time itself and would also potentially be it's own self causal event, and hence, the true eternally existent absolute somethingness that all things come from and are made up of.
Here is a copy and paste of a part of my comment to another individual on another YT channel in a discussion concerning 'cause and effect':
I can clearly see what you are saying about the effect of a cause in itself may be a cause for a later effect. And in that regard, yes it could be seen as being the same. But a 'cause' usually comes before an 'effect'. And in that context, if something never ever changes, the cause brings about an effect (no change) which in itself is a cause (no change) which then brings about an effect (no change),......., and both the cause and effect are identical and no change occurs.
But now, if some state of existence changes somewhere in the process, either via a cause that is not identical to the effect or an effect that is not identical to a cause, then change occurs. But for a change to occur that causes some later effect still puts a cause before an effect. One total state of existence changing to bring about another total but different state of existence.
Logically speaking, I can't see how one could have a different state of existence (effect) from a previous state of existence that was not identical (cause) to bring about the later different state of existence. And sure, that later effect might possibly be the cause to future effects and so on and so forth and possibly life happens and evolves in a cause/effect/cause/effect.... kind of way.
And in essence, 'if' for example my latest theory of everything is really true, that the pulsating, swirling 'gem' photon is the basic energy unit of this universe that brings about everything in this universe, including even numbers themselves for math to do what math does, a singular energy unit with 3 different modalities, each modality acting 90 degrees from the other two, while the basic structure of the 'gem' photon itself never changes, it's the interaction with other 'gem' photons in existence whereby other future effects occur in a cause and effect kind of way. And sure, later effects become the cause of later effects and so on and so forth. But the pulsating, swirling 'gem' photons themselves would eternally exist as they themselves make up space and time itself. Eternally the same, but yet interactions with other like 'gem' photons brings about change. (But I fully acknowledge that this TOE idea is dependent upon the results of my gravity test.) But in the context of this discussion, it is a possibility at this time of how reality truly is.
In essence, the basic pulsating, swirling 'gem' photon would be both the 'cause' and the 'effect' all contained within itself and in that context, both the 'cause' and 'effect' would be identical.
* Added note: The universe ALWAYS existed in some form and did not have a beginning, nor might it ever end. The creation accounts in the Bible and other religion's belief systems, as well as the singular 'big bang' theory, are all just fairy tales.
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@manuell3505 Well, first, one must define 'time'. What is your definition of 'time'?
Here is a copy and paste of mine:
FOR ME:
'Space' is energy itself. Wherever space is, energy is. Wherever energy is, space is. They are one and the same thing. And for me, the 'gem' photon is the energy unit of this universe that makes up everything in existence in this universe.
'Time' is the flow of energy.
'Time' (flow of energy) cannot exist unless 'space' (energy itself) exists. And 'space' (energy itself) that does not flow (no flow of time / energy) is basically useless. An entity cannot even think a thought without a flow of energy. If all the energy in the universe stopped flowing, wouldn't we say that 'time stood still'? Time itself would still exist, it would just not be flowing, (basically 'time' stopped).
But then also, how space and time are linked in what is called 'space time', (energy and it's flow).
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