Comments by "Charles Brightman" (@charlesbrightman4237) on "PRAYER IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS: President Trump CHAMPIONS Freedom of Worship" video.
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Who and/or what are they praying to? 'God' does not actually exist except for as a concept created by humans for humans as humans personified nature and called that personification 'God'. Even per Occam's razor, a scientific principal, it's more probable that God does not exist rather than God exists. Now also, if anybody reading this has any actual factual evidence of God's actual factual existence, please feel free to post that evidence here for myself and all of the YouTube world to see.
(Copy and paste of a part of one of my files):
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GOD DOES NOT ACTUALLY EXIST.
For those who claim God exists, consider the following:
a. An actual eternally existent absolute somethingness truly existing.
b. An actual eternally existent absolute somethingness that has consciousness, memories and thoughts truly existing.
People who claim God actually and eternally exists basically are claiming that 'b' above is correct but yet simultaneously seem to be saying that 'a' is impossible to occur.
'a' above can exist without 'b' existing but 'b' cannot exist unless 'a' exists.
I am one step away from proving God's existence, but am unable to find any actual evidence to do so. And nobody I've talked to seems to have any actual evidence of God's actual existence either. Hence, at this time in the analysis, God does not actually exist except for as a concept created by humans for humans. Humans have personified Nature and called that personification "God".
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In addition, while modern science does not know what consciousness actually is yet, memories and thoughts appear to require a physical correctly functioning brain to have those items occur. Where is God's brain? Where are God's memories stored at? How are God's memories stored and retrieved? How does God think even a single coherent thought?
If inside of this space time dimension we appear are existing in, then where?
If outside of this space time dimension we appear are existing in, then where is the interface between that dimension and this dimension? No such interface has been discovered as of yet as far as I am currently aware of.
Why are we teaching our children apparent delusional fairy tale beliefs?
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@msj.randel1496 I am not 'hurt and confused by the word Christian'. I was born into and raised as a Lutheran. Via many decades of study, it became evident to me that my parents (both long dead now), the religious institutions that I had attended, and society in general, all lied to me. Now some, like my parents, maybe unintentionally. Maybe they didn't know any better. But some religious institutions that have many people and almost 2000 years to discern what I have apparently discerned in less than one single life time, I hold a different view of them. I believe they know the real truth but don't tell the public the real truth because then they would lose their status, authorities and job security in this economically driven world. And as far as the Christian religion is concerned, I was 'born again', a long time ago. It turns out it is just more fairy tale beliefs though.
In addition, it does not appear we have any sort of 'soul', much less an actual immortal soul. We do not appear to have any sort of conscious afterlife, much less an actual eternal conscious afterlife that last throughout all of future eternity. Heaven and Hell are just fairy tale beliefs also. And if one were to do a chemical analysis of the wafer and wine before the 'magical words' were spoken, then have some religious person speak the 'magical words', and then do another chemical analysis of the wafer and wine, one would see it is still just a wafer and wine and did not magically turn into the very body and blood of Jesus Christ. Christians are so gullible. They are brainwashed well.
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@freepopapump777 Well, do my gravity test and possibly have the very Theory Of Everything, including how numbers themselves exist in this universe for math to do what math does.
(Reusable code from my files):
Revised TOE: 3/25/2017a.
My Current TOE:
THE SETUP:
1. Modern science currently recognizes four forces of nature: The strong nuclear force, the weak nuclear force, gravity, and electromagnetism.
2. In school we are taught that with magnetism, opposite polarities attract and like polarities repel. But inside the arc of a large horseshoe magnet it's the other way around, like polarities attract and opposite polarities repel. (I have proved this to myself with magnets and anybody with a large horseshoe magnet and two smaller bar magnets can easily prove this to yourself too. It occurs at the outer end of the inner arc of the horseshoe magnet.).
3. Charged particles have an associated magnetic field with them.
4. Protons and electrons are charged particles and have their associated magnetic fields with them.
5. Photons also have both an electric and a magnetic component to them.
FOUR FORCES OF NATURE DOWN INTO TWO:
6. When an electron is in close proximity to the nucleus, it would basically generate a 360 degree spherical magnetic field.
7. Like charged protons would stick together inside of this magnetic field, while simultaneously repelling opposite charged electrons inside this magnetic field, while simultaneously attracting the opposite charged electrons across the inner portion of the electron's moving magnetic field.
8. There are probably no such thing as "gluons" in actual reality.
9. The strong nuclear force and the weak nuclear force are probably derivatives of the electro-magnetic field interactions between electrons and protons.
10. The nucleus is probably an electro-magnetic field boundary.
11. Quarks also supposedly have a charge to them and then would also most likely have electro-magnetic fields associated with them, possibly a different arrangement for each of the six different type of quarks.
12. The interactions between the quarks EM forces are how and why protons and neutrons formulate as well as how and why protons and neutrons stay inside of the nucleus and do not just pass through as neutrinos do.
THE GEM FORCE INTERACTIONS AND QUANTA:
13. Personally, I currently believe that the directional force in photons is "gravity". It's the force that makes the sine wave of EM energy go from a wide (maximum extension) to a point (minimum extension) of a moving photon and acts 90 degrees to the EM forces which act 90 degrees to each other. When the EM gets to maximum extension, "gravity" flips and EM goes to minimum, then "gravity" flips and goes back to maximum, etc, etc. A stationary photon would pulse from it's maximum extension to a point possibly even too small to detect, then back to maximum, etc, etc.
14. I also believe that a pulsating, swirling singularity (which is basically a pulsating, swirling 'gem' photon) is the energy unit in this universe.
15. When these pulsating, swirling energy units interact with other energy units, they tangle together and can interlock at times. Various shapes (strings, spheres, whatever) might be formed, which then create sub-atomic material, atoms, molecules, and everything in existence in this universe.
16. When the energy units unite and interlock together they would tend to stabilize and vibrate.
17. I believe there is probably a Photonic Theory Of The Atomic Structure.
18. Everything is basically "light" (photons) in a universe entirely filled with "light" (photons).
THE MAGNETIC FORCE SPECIFICALLY:
19. When the electron with it's associated magnetic field goes around the proton with it's associated magnetic field, internal and external energy oscillations are set up.
20. When more than one atom is involved, and these energy frequencies align, they add together, specifically the magnetic field frequency.
21. I currently believe that this is where a line of flux originates from, aligned magnetic field frequencies.
NOTES:
22. The Earth can be looked at as being a massive singular interacting photon with it's magnetic field, electrical surface field, and gravity, all three photonic forces all being 90 degrees from each other.
23. The flat spiral galaxy can be looked at as being a massive singular interacting photon with it's magnetic fields on each side of the plane of matter, the electrical field along the plane of matter, and gravity being directed towards the galactic center's black hole where the gravitational forces would meet, all three photonic forces all being 90 degrees from each other.
24. As below in the singularity, as above in the galaxy and probably universe as well.
25. I believe there are only two forces of nature, Gravity and EM, (GEM). Due to the stability of the GEM with the energy unit, this is also why the forces of nature haven't evolved by now. Of which with the current theory of understanding, how come the forces of nature haven't evolved by now since the original conditions acting upon the singularity aren't acting upon them like they originally were, billions of years have supposedly elapsed, in a universe that continues to expand and cool, with energy that could not be created nor destroyed would be getting less and less dense? My theory would seem to make more sense if in fact it is really true. I really wonder if it is in fact really true.
26. And the universe would be expanding due to these pulsating and interacting energy units and would also allow galaxies to collide, of which, how could galaxies ever collide if they are all speeding away from each other like is currently taught?
DISCLAIMER:
27. As I as well as all of humanity truly do not know what we do not know, the above certainly could be wrong. It would have to be proved or disproved to know for more certainty.
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@freepopapump777 (Reusable code from my files):
Here is the test for the 'gravity' portion of my TOE idea. I do not have the necessary resources to do the test but maybe you or someone else reading this does, will do the test, then tell the world what is found out either way.
a. Imagine a 12 hour clock.
b. Put a magnetic field across from the 3 to 9 o'clock positions.
c. Put an electric field across from the 6 to 12 o'clock positions.
(The magnetic field and electric field would be 90 degrees to each other and should be polarized so as to complement each other.)
d. Shoot a high powered laser through the center of the clock at 90 degrees to the em fields.
e. Do this with the em fields on and off.
(The em fields could be varied in size, strength, density and depth. The intent would be to energy frequency match the laser and em fields for optimal results.)
f. Look for any gravitational / anti-gravitational effects.
(Including the utilization of ferro cells so as to be able to actually see the energy field movements.)
(And note: if done right, it's possible a mini gravitational black hole might form. Be ready for it.)
(An alternative to the above would be to shoot 3 high powered lasers, or a single high powered laser split into 3 beams, each adjustable to achieve the above set up, all focused upon a single point in space.)
'If' effects are noted, 'then' further research could be done.
'If' effects are not noted, 'then' my latest TOE idea is wrong. But still, we would know what 'gravity' was not, which is still something in the scientific world. Science still wins either way and moves forward.
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@freepopapump777 (Reusable code from my files):
'IF' my latest TOE idea is really true, (and I fully acknowledge the 'if' at this time), that the pulsating, swirling 'gem' photon is the energy unit of this universe that makes up everything in existence in this universe, and what is called 'gravity' is a part of what is currently recognized as the 'em' photon, then the oscillation of these 3 interacting modalities of the energy unit would be as follows:
Gravity: Maximum in one direction, Neutral, Maximum in the other direction;
Electrical: Maximum in one direction, Neutral, Maximum in the other direction;
Magnetic: Maximum in one direction, Neutral, Maximum in the other direction.
Then:
1 singular energy unit, with 3 different modalities, with 6 maximum most reactive positions, with 9 total basic reactive positions (neutrals included). Hence 1, 3, 6, 9 being very prominent numbers in this universe and why mathematics even works in this universe.
(And possibly '0', zero, as possibly neutrals are against other neutrals, even if only briefly, for no flow of energy, hence the number system that we currently have).
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@freepopapump777 And oh also, the universe ALWAYS existed in some form. The 'gem' photon being it's own self causal effect. When all the gaps are filled, the 'God of the gaps' is no longer needed. (More reusable code from my files. It's a portion of my comment with another individual concerning 'cause and effect'):
I can clearly see what you are saying about the effect of a cause in itself may be a cause for a later effect. And in that regard, yes it could be seen as being the same. But a 'cause' usually comes before an 'effect'. And in that context, if something never ever changes, the cause brings about an effect (no change) which in itself is a cause (no change) which then brings about an effect (no change),......., and both the cause and effect are identical and no change occurs.
But now, if some state of existence changes somewhere in the process, either via a cause that is not identical to the effect or an effect that is not identical to a cause, then change occurs. But for a change to occur that causes some later effect still puts a cause before an effect. One total state of existence changing to bring about another total but different state of existence.
Logically speaking, I can't see how one could have a different state of existence (effect) from a previous state of existence that was not identical (cause) to bring about the later different state of existence. And sure, that later effect might possibly be the cause to future effects and so on and so forth and possibly life happens and evolves in a cause/effect/cause/effect.... kind of way.
And in essence, 'if' for example my latest theory of everything is really true, that the pulsating, swirling 'gem' photon is the basic energy unit of this universe that brings about everything in this universe, including even numbers themselves for math to do what math does, a singular energy unit with 3 different modalities, each modality acting 90 degrees from the other two, while the basic structure of the 'gem' photon itself never changes, it's the interaction with other 'gem' photons in existence whereby other future effects occur in a cause and effect kind of way. And sure, later effects become the cause of later effects and so on and so forth. But the pulsating, swirling 'gem' photons themselves would eternally exist as they themselves make up space and time itself. Eternally the same, but yet interactions with other like 'gem' photons brings about change. (But I fully acknowledge that this TOE idea is dependent upon the results of my gravity test.) But in the context of this discussion, it is a possibility at this time of how reality truly is.
In essence, the basic pulsating, swirling 'gem' photon would be both the 'cause' and the 'effect' all contained within itself and in that context, both the 'cause' and 'effect' would be identical.
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@freepopapump777 Well:
a. What exactly is 'time'? (See my view at the end of this post).
b. And 'yes', prayer does have some value as far as focusing one's mind on a topic. But so does meditation, or just focusing one's mind on a topic.
c. Why should people be allowed to pass on and teach others their apparent fairy tale beliefs that they themselves cannot even prove are really true? And possibly even more importantly, why should apparently deluded people be allowed to write laws that others have to follow? If anything, non-deluded people should be ruling over deluded people, not deluded people over non-deluded people. Society often treats people who believe in fairy tales as if those fairy tales were really true as being deluded. Why shouldn't I and others do the same? And in the case of this video and what Trump and others are trying to do, why should delusions be taught to our children in public schools? Keep those delusional beliefs in their own private schools if they want to. Otherwise, where is the actual factual evidence to back up those super natural claims of their belief in God's existence?
d. (Reusable code from my files):
FOR ME:
'Space' is energy itself. Wherever space is, energy is. Wherever energy is, space is. They are one and the same thing. And for me, the 'gem' photon is the energy unit of this universe that makes up everything in existence in this universe.
'Time' is the flow of energy.
'Time' (flow of energy) cannot exist unless 'space' (energy itself) exists. And 'space' (energy itself) that does not flow (no flow of time / energy) is basically useless. An entity cannot even think a thought without a flow of energy. If all the energy in the universe stopped flowing, wouldn't we say that 'time stood still'? Time itself would still exist, it would just not be flowing, (basically 'time' stopped).
But then also, how space and time are linked in what is called 'space time', (energy and it's flow).
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@oldandstong6504 You are certainly free to believe whatever you want to believe, as can I and others believe whatever we want to believe. But I also believe in 'absolute truth', absolute truth being defined as the 100% correct and 100% complete set of facts to everything in existence, that no human currently has, nor is probably physically capable of having. And even if absolute truth did not absolutely exist, even that would be an absolute truth. 'Absolute truth' is a self existent truth. It is the anchor point to build all analysis upon.
With that said,
a. Many people believed this world was flat. It turns out they were wrong.
b. Many people believed we existed in a geo-centric solar system. It turns out they were wrong too.
So, just believing in something to be true, while possibly being really true, without some sort of actual evidence to back up those beliefs, one may come to find out that what they were believing in was wrong in actual reality.
So here again, people are certainly free to believe whatever they want to believe, and I and others can believe those people to be delusional and who are believing in fairy tales as if those fairy tales were really true, and treat them as such. And if they couldn't prove otherwise, then they couldn't prove otherwise. So, either present actual factual evidence to back up your super natural beliefs, otherwise ........
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@freepopapump777 And oh,
"So what would be the harm of prayer , have you considered the common mans intelligence and morality to be unworthy of some wellbeing provided by prayer or meditation. We all have a sense of wonder of the unknown , even though the concept of God may seem trivial to some the vast majority of people need something to guide them. To deny people of that wellbeing is selfish don't you think."
I am only doing to society what society taught me to do.
a. Society taught me the 'golden rule', to treat others how you yourself would like to be treated.
b. Since I have been fighting advanced cancer officially since 2003 along with other medical issues, and should have been dead years ago, society is keeping me alive and thereby is also prolonging my suffering by not allowing me to legally die.
c. So, since society is prolonging my life, and prolonging my suffering, and society did it to me first, that must be how society wants to be treated per the 'golden rule' that society taught me.
d. I am trying to prolong societies' life by my theory of everything and I am trying to prolong societies' suffering by telling them the real apparent truth about life and their future.
e. I am only doing what society taught me to do.
Also:
f. You say, "So what would be the harm of prayer"; I say, what good is prayer without some sort of action but only to focus one's mind that eventually leads to some sort of action, even if only to please one's mind? And if one's actions go beyond one's self, then it might affect others. Why should others be affected by someone else's potential delusional prayers? Especially in public schools?
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@freepopapump777 Okay, consider what the early Roman Catholic Church did to those who did not believe as they believed. It goes the other way too. How many holy wars still go on today, especially in the middle east but not only in the middle east?
In school, I 'believe' truth should be taught, as best as we could humanly discern that truth to be. And when necessary, what is taught should be revised as necessary. For example: We should no longer teach children that this Earth is flat nor that we exist in a geo-centric solar system as many people used to believe. Also, the structure of an atom is not like raisens in pudding. Santa Clause is just a fairy tale, as is God.
Children should also be taught how to help the larger society that they exist in so as to be productive members of the society that they exist in.
And when you say, "The hearts of man without God are hedonistic.", children should be taught that the heart is just a muscle in the body that pumps blood, nothing more.
And why do you and others insist on bringing your beliefs that you cannot even prove are really true to the public school system? Especially when you claim things like, "The hearts of man without God are hedonistic." Please prove that is really true and not just your faith belief.
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@freepopapump777 a. I'd say 'God bless you too', but that wouldn't really be saying anything. How could an imaginary sky daddy even hear me, or even want to answer my prayer, even if 'she' could?
b. What exactly is 'evil'? What is evil for one might be a blessing for another. It depends upon perspective and who is the predator and who is the prey.
c. Everything did not come from nothing. Here again, you just do not seem to understand my comment up above. Basically, the universe ALWAYS existed in some form. It did not have a beginning, nor might it never have an end.
d. Christians killing American Indians in the early days of America didn't used to be bad either, at least not from the 'Christians' perspective. I guess one could say at least some of us have 'evolved' in our thinking. Women also have the right to vote now, as they should have always had. Blacks are also recognized as equals, as they should have always been recognized. The 'sins' of our fathers do not have to continue on with us. We can learn to do better. But not if we stick to old traditional ways that are simply wrong by today's standards.
e. As you say I say prayers should be removed from public schools, and I say, why should they remain? Who and/or what would the children be praying to? And why Christian prayers? Why not Muslim prayers or Jewish prayers or some other religious belief's prayers? Why only pray to God even? Why not pray to a rainbow colored unicorn as the creator of all things in existence. Wouldn't the children like praying to a rainbow colored unicorn? And what should be prayed for? Whose agendas should the children be praying for? So that Republicans in the American government don't take their food away? So that the Republicans don't take their medical treatment away? So that those in the government who are building their safe underground bunkers to save their own asses don't leave the children behind during the 6th mass extinction event or during WW3? What exactly should the children be praying for?
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@trumpette8242 a. Which part of the following is a lie?
"For those who claim God exists, consider the following:
a. An actual eternally existent absolute somethingness truly existing.
b. An actual eternally existent absolute somethingness that has consciousness, memories and thoughts truly existing.
People who claim God actually and eternally exists basically are claiming that 'b' above is correct but yet simultaneously seem to be saying that 'a' is impossible to occur.
'a' above can exist without 'b' existing but 'b' cannot exist unless 'a' exists."
b. "Wothout faith, a size of a musterseed, and faith comes by hearing, hearing the words that came out of the mouth of our heavenly Father."
1. Please prove that God actually factually exists and that God has male attributes of a Father and that God has a mouth.
2. Please prove that heaven actually factually exists.
3. Faith alone is not good enough. Many people used to believe with their whole 'heart, soul and mind' so to speak that this Earth was flat and that we existed in a geo-centric solar system. It turns out they were all wrong. So, 'Faith alone is not good enough'.
c. "You can't just livevon bread alone dude"
I don't.
d. "Consider yourself " lucky" that someone has told u to go find out. Plenty of proof.
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Okay, then share that actual factual evidence of God's actual factual existence for myself and the rest of the YouTube world to see. It should be easy for you to do since you claim, 'Plenty of proof'. Okay, your turn.
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@freepopapump777 a. "who ever they wish to pray to..."
Even Satan, Witches and Demons then if that is that person's religion? And the US Government has to protect their right to do so? Or even to not pray at all and consider those who do to be delusional if that is that person's religion? Why would people even be force to pray at all? Are people trying to indoctrinate or brainwash the children to think and believe in a certain way?
b. "The giving of blankets was was not intentional to kill them I'm certain."
How are you 'certain'? Were you there?
c. "No format need to pray it's a personal preference."
Really, no matter what that person's personal preference is?
d. "You are very hostile towards the ideas of God."
No, I am not. I just don't like people who try to force their lies upon others.
e. "What's the harm if you believe it's a lie, people lie to themselves all the time about numerous falsehoods with little consequence."
Probably why so many people who support Trump do support Trump. He has lied over 15,000 times already since becoming President of the USA according to those who keep track of such things. Liars like lies.
f. "Evil is defined through actions willingly intended to harm or destroy others for personal gain or for sport or pleasure."
So, all the government 'war mongers' are evil then. Presidents who want continual wars so that the President can have more war time powers are evil then. Republicans who take away their fellow citizens social programs that help their fellow citizens are evil then. Thank you for clarifying who is 'evil' in this world.
g. "Knowing that it's the moral obligation to seek these people out and eliminate them as fast as possible, and replace them with compassionate leaders that intended to live in a civilized way period."
I agree if that is how 'We The People' choose to live while we live.
h. "That is what Trump is doing and the liars, the cheats, the murderers, pedophiles, and corrupt leaders."
Trump is one of the biggest liars on the international stage. And many nations know that. (See 'e' above). And also, to truly defeat terrorism in this world, one has to also stop being a terrorist. (At least here again if that is how 'We The People' choose to live while we live.)
i. "With such a extensive knowledge of logic, you can't tell me you believe the mainstream media they are monkeys."
Even Fox News is considered MSM by some. So are other stations considered MSM by others. And no, they are considered human, not monkeys.
j. "But you probably think we all are huh.
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Honestly, you might not even be human or a monkey for all I know.
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@oldandstong6504 a. Okay, what is your definition of 'truth'?
b. Here is a copy and paste from one of my comments from above:
"I am only doing to society what society taught me to do.
a. Society taught me the 'golden rule', to treat others how you yourself would like to be treated.
b. Since I have been fighting advanced cancer officially since 2003 along with other medical issues, and should have been dead years ago, society is keeping me alive and thereby is also prolonging my suffering by not allowing me to legally die.
c. So, since society is prolonging my life, and prolonging my suffering, and society did it to me first, that must be how society wants to be treated per the 'golden rule' that society taught me.
d. I am trying to prolong societies' life by my theory of everything and I am trying to prolong societies' suffering by telling them the real apparent truth about life and their future.
e. I am only doing what society taught me to do."
c. Why should you be allowed to contaminate children's mind with your fairy tale beliefs?
The Earth is not flat, we do not exist in a geo-centric solar system, the universe is not 6000 years old, Noah didn't save the entire human race and other species, saying 'magical words' over a wafer and wine does not magically turn them into the very body and blood of Jesus, we do not have a 'soul' and certainly not an immortal soul, we do not have a conscious afterlife, and certainly not an actual eternal conscious afterlife that lasts throughout all of future eternity, Jesus isn't coming back, Heaven and Hell do not actually exist, 'sin' is just a human concoction.
Otherwise, prove that God actually factually exists and is the God of the Bible that you claim. The onus is upon them who make super natural claims to prove their claims.
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@traviskas Logic and reasoning: (Copy and paste from above):
GOD DOES NOT ACTUALLY EXIST.
For those who claim God exists, consider the following:
a. An actual eternally existent absolute somethingness truly existing.
b. An actual eternally existent absolute somethingness that has consciousness, memories and thoughts truly existing.
People who claim God actually and eternally exists basically are claiming that 'b' above is correct but yet simultaneously seem to be saying that 'a' is impossible to occur.
'a' above can exist without 'b' existing but 'b' cannot exist unless 'a' exists.
I am one step away from proving God's existence, but am unable to find any actual evidence to do so. And nobody I've talked to seems to have any actual evidence of God's actual existence either. Hence, at this time in the analysis, God does not actually exist except for as a concept created by humans for humans. Humans have personified Nature and called that personification "God".
In addition, while modern science does not know what consciousness actually is yet, memories and thoughts appear to require a physical correctly functioning brain to have those items occur. Where is God's brain? Where are God's memories stored at? How are God's memories stored and retrieved? How does God think even a single coherent thought?
If inside of this space time dimension we appear are existing in, then where?
If outside of this space time dimension we appear are existing in, then where is the interface between that dimension and this dimension? No such interface has been discovered as of yet as far as I am currently aware of.
* So, where is your actual factual evidence to back up your belief such that you 'know' God exists?
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John Husereau Yes, I have read numerous translations of the canonized scriptures, non-canonized writings and even heretical documents. The logic and reasoning above still applies though, 'a' being more probable of being really truth rather than 'b'.
Now, if you or anybody else reading this has any actual factual evidence of God's actual factual existence, please feel free to present it here for myself and the rest of the YouTube world could see. And also for yourself, not only of God's actual existence, (besides just as a concept), but also of the God of the Bible like you claim.
When people make super natural claims, the onus is upon them who make their claim to prove their claim. So, I await your actual factual evidence of God's actual factual existence, and a male God as described in the Bible too.
Otherwise, you and others who believe so are delusional individuals who are believing in fairy tales as if those fairy tales were really true, and if you couldn't prove otherwise, then you couldn't prove otherwise.
And also, you and others are certainly free to believe whatever you want to believe, as can I and others believe whatever we want to believe. So, present actual factual evidence of God's actual factual existence, or from henceforth, you will be considered and treated as a delusional individual who is believing in fairy tales as if those fairy tales were really true.
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@oldandstong6504 Thank you for your concern. Legalize suicide so I can end it all. Here in America, "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness". If an American citizen does not have the legal 'Liberty' to end their own 'Life' if they and they alone believe it would make them 'Happy' to do so, then are they truly 'Free'?
But putting that aside, logic and reasoning is still logic and reasoning. In the analysis above, 'a' is more probable as being really true rather than 'b'. And then add into the analysis the rest of the info especially concerning memories and thoughts, and it just does not add up that God actually factually exists except for just as a concept. Likewise, there is no intelligent designer, nor a universal consciousness.
And then also, "IF" I can ever get my gravity test to be done, then that would prove that portion of my Theory Of Everything, including how numbers could exist in this universe for math to do what math does, and also possibly how the 'gem' photon would be it's own self causal effect and be eternally existent. In essence, being the actual eternally existent absolute somethingness that truly exists, or 'a' above. Even modern science claims that energy cannot be created nor destroyed, hence, energy is either truly eternally existent, or modern science is wrong. Basically though, the universe ALWAYS existed in some form. The universe never had a beginning, nor will it probably ever have an end. Once all the gaps are filled, the God of the gaps is no longer needed.
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Who and/or what are they praying to? 'God' does not actually exist except for as a concept created by humans for humans as humans personified nature and called that personification 'God'. Even per Occam's razor, a scientific principal, it's more probable that God does not exist rather than God exists. Now also, if anybody reading this has any actual factual evidence of God's actual factual existence, please feel free to post that evidence here for myself and all of the YouTube world to see.
(Copy and paste of a part of one of my files):
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GOD DOES NOT ACTUALLY EXIST.
For those who claim God exists, consider the following:
a. An actual eternally existent absolute somethingness truly existing.
b. An actual eternally existent absolute somethingness that has consciousness, memories and thoughts truly existing.
People who claim God actually and eternally exists basically are claiming that 'b' above is correct but yet simultaneously seem to be saying that 'a' is impossible to occur.
'a' above can exist without 'b' existing but 'b' cannot exist unless 'a' exists.
I am one step away from proving God's existence, but am unable to find any actual evidence to do so. And nobody I've talked to seems to have any actual evidence of God's actual existence either. Hence, at this time in the analysis, God does not actually exist except for as a concept created by humans for humans. Humans have personified Nature and called that personification "God".
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In addition, while modern science does not know what consciousness actually is yet, memories and thoughts appear to require a physical correctly functioning brain to have those items occur. Where is God's brain? Where are God's memories stored at? How are God's memories stored and retrieved? How does God think even a single coherent thought?
If inside of this space time dimension we appear are existing in, then where?
If outside of this space time dimension we appear are existing in, then where is the interface between that dimension and this dimension? No such interface has been discovered as of yet as far as I am currently aware of.
Why are we teaching our children apparent delusional fairy tale beliefs?
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@aprilmillard5228 Well, if that is all you have, consider the following:
a. Many people used to believe with their whole 'heart, soul and mind' so to speak that this world was flat. It turns out they were wrong.
b. Many very powerful people used to believe with their whole 'heart, soul and mind' so to speak that we existed in a geo-centric solar system, and to think and believe otherwise was considered heresy, and was punished, even fatally punished at times. These people who even claimed to be connected to and who speak for God upon this Earth. It turns out they were wrong too. How could people who claim to be connected to and who speak for God upon this Earth not know how the solar system is put together?
c. So, just believing something to be really true, even with one's whole 'heart, soul and mind' so to speak, does not automatically mean that what one believes is really true is in fact actually true. Sure, it could be really true, but without some sort of actual evidence to back up one's beliefs, one might find out that they are just a deluded individual who is believing in fairy tales as if those fairy tales were really true. And if they couldn't prove otherwise, then they couldn't prove otherwise.
d. Now, people are certainly free to believe whatever they want to believe, including believing that people who believe that God actually exists besides just as a concept are delusional and who are believing in fairy tales as if those fairy tales were really true. And if people couldn't prove otherwise, then they couldn't prove otherwise. Other people have 'faith beliefs' too.
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