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@zarlok5294 Well for those who truly believe that God truly exists besides just as a concept, please have them show how 'b' is really true and that 'a' is not really true in this God analysis below:
(copy and paste from my files):
GOD DOES NOT ACTUALLY EXIST EXCEPT FOR AS A CONCEPT:
For those who claim God actually exists (besides as a concept), consider the following:
a. An actual eternally existent absolute somethingness truly existing.
b. An actual eternally existent absolute somethingness that has consciousness, memories and thoughts truly existing.
People who claim God actually and eternally exists basically are claiming that 'b' above is correct but yet simultaneously seem to be saying that 'a' is impossible to occur.
'a' above can exist without 'b' existing but 'b' cannot exist unless 'a' exists. Even per the scientific principal of Occam's razor, 'a' is more probable of being really true rather than 'b'.
I am one step away from proving God's existence, but am unable to find any actual evidence to do so. And nobody I've talked to seems to have any actual evidence of God's actual existence either. All humans appear to have are 'Theories of God'. Some humans appear to go their whole life basing their life upon their specific theory of God. Many give their God human characteristics and cannot even prove the existence of their God much less the characteristics given to their God. Some have circumstantial arguments for a God's existence, but others have circumstantial arguments for no God existing. Not one has any actual factual evidence that their God actually factually even exists. Hence, at this time in the analysis, God does not actually exist except for as a concept created by humans for humans. Humans have personified Nature and called that personification "God". Instead of what is claimed "God creating man in God's image", it's more likely that "Man created God in Man's image".
Further consider that if the emotional parts of the brain override the logic and reasoning parts of the brain, people can be made to believe basically anything at all as being really true. Plus modern science has already proven that humans can have visual and audio hallucinations that are very real to that individual. All the more reason for critical thinking being needed and to follow the facts wherever those facts might lead. Some people for some reason (social conditioning/brainwashing/wishful thinking) believe in future eternity without end but do not accept eternity past with no beginning.
In addition, while modern science does not know what consciousness actually is yet, memories and thoughts appear to require a physical correctly functioning brain to have those items occur. Where is God's brain? Where are God's memories stored at? How are God's memories stored and retrieved? How does God think even a single coherent thought?
If inside of this space time dimension we appear are existing in, then where?
If outside of this space time dimension we appear are existing in, then where is the interface between that dimension and this dimension? No such interface has been discovered as of yet as far as I am currently aware of.
* Note: Since this is a search for the real absolute truth concerning God, Intelligent Designer, Pre-existent Consciousness, etc, feel free to copy and paste this elsewhere to further the analysis and discussion.
* For those who claim God actually exists besides just as a concept, please prove that 'b' above is really true and that 'a' is not really true.
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Note: There is not a war on Christmas. There is real apparent truth being shared with the world, or at least how I perceive it to be from my perspective.
(ie: Copy and paste from my files):
GOD DOES NOT ACTUALLY EXIST EXCEPT FOR AS A CONCEPT:
For those who claim God actually exists (besides as a concept), consider the following:
a. An actual eternally existent absolute somethingness truly existing.
b. An actual eternally existent absolute somethingness that has consciousness, memories and thoughts truly existing.
People who claim God actually and eternally exists basically are claiming that 'b' above is correct but yet simultaneously seem to be saying that 'a' is impossible to occur.
'a' above can exist without 'b' existing but 'b' cannot exist unless 'a' exists. Even per the scientific principal of Occam's razor, 'a' is more probable of being really true rather than 'b'.
I am one step away from proving God's existence, but am unable to find any actual evidence to do so. And nobody I've talked to seems to have any actual evidence of God's actual existence either. All humans appear to have are 'Theories of God'. Some humans appear to go their whole life basing their life upon their specific theory of God. They even at times kill other humans based upon their own theories. Many give their God human characteristics and cannot even prove the existence of their God much less the characteristics given to their God. Some have circumstantial arguments for a God's existence, but others have circumstantial arguments for no God existing. Not one has any actual factual evidence that their God actually factually even exists. Hence, at this time in the analysis, God does not actually exist except for as a concept created by humans for humans. Humans have personified Nature and called that personification "God". It appears many of them are delusional and are believing in fairy tales as if those fairy tales were really true. Instead of what is claimed "God creating man in God's image", it's more likely that "Man created God in Man's image".
Further consider that if the emotional parts of the brain override the logic and reasoning parts of the brain, people can be made to believe basically anything at all as being really true. Plus modern science has already proven that humans can have visual and audio hallucinations that are very real to that individual. All the more reason for critical thinking being needed and to follow the facts wherever those facts might lead.
In addition, while modern science does not know what consciousness actually is yet, memories and thoughts appear to require a physical correctly functioning brain to have those items occur. Where is God's brain? Where are God's memories stored at? How are God's memories stored and retrieved? How does God think even a single coherent thought?
If inside of this space time dimension we appear are existing in, then where?
If outside of this space time dimension we appear are existing in, then where is the interface between that dimension and this dimension? No such interface has been discovered as of yet as far as I am currently aware of.
* Note: Since this is a search for the real absolute truth concerning God, Intelligent Designer, Pre-existent Consciousness, etc, feel free to copy and paste this elsewhere to further the analysis and discussion.
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Do 'we' even actually exist?
Who and/or What Am I? Do 'I' even exist?
Consider the following:
a. I am a human as defined by humans.
b. I am an energy based quarkelectronian as modern science claims that all matter is made up of quarks, electrons and interacting energy and I am made up of matter and interacting energy.
c. I am a being of 'light', 'if' my current theory of everything is correct whereby the 'gem' photon is the energy unit of this universe that makes up everything in this universe, including space, time and numbers. (Currently dependent upon the results of my gravity test).
d. "I" do not even actually exist but eternally existent space time exists as me, currently in the forms as above.
* I exist and yet "I" simultaneously do not exist, dependent upon perspective. But yet, do "I" not truly exist in absolute truth reality as only eternally existent space time exists as all things in absolute truth reality?
* "I" can mentally change between perspectives thereby experiencing existence from those various perspectives. "My" mind continues to expand, but is it truly 'my' mind that is expanding or is it eternally existent space time's mind that is expanding? In absolute truth reality, it would seem to be the later.
* 'To Be or Not To Be'. I am both, 'I Am and I Am Not.' But I Am Not it appears more than I Am.
* Consider also: If asked the general question, 'What do you know?'. My current answer would be, 'Not much compared to all that can be known.' (I Am Not, More than I Am). It's humbling.
* Is it truly any wonder that the flow of energy in the universe affects species? We are the universe experiencing itself.
* Question: If 'I' never actually existed in the first place, how could 'I' ever die?
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@general---777a Based upon what? A book of fairy tales?
Please show how 'b' is really true and that 'a' is not really true in this God analysis below:
(copy and paste from my files):
GOD DOES NOT ACTUALLY EXIST EXCEPT FOR AS A CONCEPT:
For those who claim God actually exists (besides as a concept), consider the following:
a. An actual eternally existent absolute somethingness truly existing.
b. An actual eternally existent absolute somethingness that has consciousness, memories and thoughts truly existing.
People who claim God actually and eternally exists basically are claiming that 'b' above is correct but yet simultaneously seem to be saying that 'a' is impossible to occur.
'a' above can exist without 'b' existing but 'b' cannot exist unless 'a' exists. Even per the scientific principal of Occam's razor, 'a' is more probable of being really true rather than 'b'.
I am one step away from proving God's existence, but am unable to find any actual evidence to do so. And nobody I've talked to seems to have any actual evidence of God's actual existence either. All humans appear to have are 'Theories of God'. Some humans appear to go their whole life basing their life upon their specific theory of God. Many give their God human characteristics and cannot even prove the existence of their God much less the characteristics given to their God. Some have circumstantial arguments for a God's existence, but others have circumstantial arguments for no God existing. Not one has any actual factual evidence that their God actually factually even exists. Hence, at this time in the analysis, God does not actually exist except for as a concept created by humans for humans. Humans have personified Nature and called that personification "God". Instead of what is claimed "God creating man in God's image", it's more likely that "Man created God in Man's image".
Further consider that if the emotional parts of the brain override the logic and reasoning parts of the brain, people can be made to believe basically anything at all as being really true. Plus modern science has already proven that humans can have visual and audio hallucinations that are very real to that individual. All the more reason for critical thinking being needed and to follow the facts wherever those facts might lead. Some people for some reason (social conditioning/brainwashing/wishful thinking) believe in future eternity without end but do not accept eternity past with no beginning.
In addition, while modern science does not know what consciousness actually is yet, memories and thoughts appear to require a physical correctly functioning brain to have those items occur. Where is God's brain? Where are God's memories stored at? How are God's memories stored and retrieved? How does God think even a single coherent thought?
If inside of this space time dimension we appear are existing in, then where?
If outside of this space time dimension we appear are existing in, then where is the interface between that dimension and this dimension? No such interface has been discovered as of yet as far as I am currently aware of.
* Note: Since this is a search for the real absolute truth concerning God, Intelligent Designer, Pre-existent Consciousness, etc, feel free to copy and paste this elsewhere to further the analysis and discussion.
* For those who claim God actually exists besides just as a concept, please prove that 'b' above is really true and that 'a' is not really true.
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@Loudest_Cricket_ But its fun discussing certain important issues as we all possibly try to discern absolute truth reality concerning those issues. If nothing else, it helps to pass the time of our existence. Of which, I need to go take care of some snow removal right now. Getting buried in snow.
But also, 'if' God does not truly exist except for as a concept alone, then all those who profess God actually exists besides just as a concept alone are spreading 'fake news' here in the public media. 'Fake news' which should come with truth added to it.
Additionally, 'if' God does not actually exist except for as a concept alone, and religious people are delusional and are believing in fairy tales as if those fairy tales were really true, then they should not be making laws that the rest of us have to follow. Nor should they be receiving exemptions from laws that everybody else has to follow. In those cases, their false religious beliefs would have real life consequences.
All I ask is that they prove that their religious beliefs are really true, of which, they have not been able to do so as of yet. I try to follow the truth wherever the truth might lead. And right now, 'God' is just a concept created by humans for humans. God did not create man in God's image, man created God in man's image. (Or so the current analysis would indicate).
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@daltonnelson94 Please show how 'b' is really true and that 'a' is not really true in this God analysis below. Nobody has been able to do so as of yet, but hey, maybe you are the one.
(copy and paste from my files):
GOD DOES NOT ACTUALLY EXIST EXCEPT FOR AS A CONCEPT:
For those who claim God actually exists (besides as a concept), consider the following:
a. An actual eternally existent absolute somethingness truly existing.
b. An actual eternally existent absolute somethingness that has consciousness, memories and thoughts truly existing.
People who claim God actually and eternally exists basically are claiming that 'b' above is correct but yet simultaneously seem to be saying that 'a' is impossible to occur.
'a' above can exist without 'b' existing but 'b' cannot exist unless 'a' exists. Even per the scientific principal of Occam's razor, 'a' is more probable of being really true rather than 'b'.
I am one step away from proving God's existence, but am unable to find any actual evidence to do so. And nobody I've talked to seems to have any actual evidence of God's actual existence either. All humans appear to have are 'Theories of God'. Some humans appear to go their whole life basing their life upon their specific theory of God. Many give their God human characteristics and cannot even prove the existence of their God much less the characteristics given to their God. Some have circumstantial arguments for a God's existence, but others have circumstantial arguments for no God existing. Not one has any actual factual evidence that their God actually factually even exists. Hence, at this time in the analysis, God does not actually exist except for as a concept created by humans for humans. Humans have personified Nature and called that personification "God". Instead of what is claimed "God creating man in God's image", it's more likely that "Man created God in Man's image".
Further consider that if the emotional parts of the brain override the logic and reasoning parts of the brain, people can be made to believe basically anything at all as being really true. Plus modern science has already proven that humans can have visual and audio hallucinations that are very real to that individual. All the more reason for critical thinking being needed and to follow the facts wherever those facts might lead. Some people for some reason (social conditioning/brainwashing/wishful thinking) believe in future eternity without end but do not accept eternity past with no beginning.
In addition, while modern science does not know what consciousness actually is yet, memories and thoughts appear to require a physical correctly functioning brain to have those items occur. Where is God's brain? Where are God's memories stored at? How are God's memories stored and retrieved? How does God think even a single coherent thought?
If inside of this space time dimension we appear are existing in, then where?
If outside of this space time dimension we appear are existing in, then where is the interface between that dimension and this dimension? No such interface has been discovered as of yet as far as I am currently aware of.
* Note: Since this is a search for the real absolute truth concerning God, Intelligent Designer, Pre-existent Consciousness, etc, feel free to copy and paste this elsewhere to further the analysis and discussion.
* For those who claim God actually exists besides just as a concept, please prove that 'b' above is really true and that 'a' is not really true.
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@daltonnelson94 Also: Assuming that 'God' truly exists besides just as a concept, please prove that your version of God is really true and that this version of God is not really true:
GOD, DARK ENERGY AND DARK MATTER
(copy and paste from God's files):
BUT FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE 1 TRUE GOD EXISTS AND IS THE CREATOR OF THIS UNIVERSE AND ALL IN IT: (Also how the universe expands and what 'dark energy' and 'dark matter' truly are):
The entire universe and all in it came from the fart of a female rainbow colored unicorn. While this cannot be proven to be true, nobody can prove it not to be true either.
All hail the female rainbow colored unicorn and her life giving fart.
One just has to have 'faith' and 'believe' and not question 'God'.
And anybody who persecutes anybody who believes the above would be guilty of religious persecution and should be punished for such.
Oh and also: This 'God' said abortion is okay for any and all who want it. I and people who believe this 'faith religion', claim religious exemption from all laws making abortion illegal.
And anybody who does not obey this 'God' will be dumped on throughout all of future eternity by the rainbow colored unicorn herself.
She is a God of 'absolute truth'. She says that life itself from this Earth is ultimately meaningless in the grand scheme of things. She says all life from this Earth is going to die one day from something, is going to forget everything they ever knew and experienced, and are all going to be forgotten one day in future eternity as if they never ever existed at all in the first place. She says that if anybody does not like it, 'tough', she is God and that is how it is.
* And recently, she also passed onto me that vaccine mandates are also up to the believers for any believers who choose not to get vaccinated for whatever reason or reasons they and they alone might have.
* And then she told me that anybody can own and operate any weapon at all that they desire.
🌈🦄💥☁
ALL HAIL THE FEMALE RAINBOW COLORED UNICORN AND HER LIFE GIVING FART!!!
* More legal exemption requests to follow, based upon what the female rainbow colored unicorn tells me via our connection within my mind.
* Oh and also, she said that anybody who sends me money and/or other wealth (since I am currently one of her representatives here upon this planet called Earth), will receive abundant benefits after they die when in 'rainbow heaven'. She said it, so it must be really true.
* Spread this message far and wide around this Earth and beyond. You have my permission to copy and paste this message elsewhere to help spread the word of the 'real' God of the universe.
* Added note:
The expansion of the universe is due to the fart of God. This is basically just as valid as 'dark energy' coming from another dimension into this dimension and you probably don't want me to go into what 'dark matter' truly is (God's 'poop' in various forms).
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@HATERSTARGET I was born and raised as a Lutheran, (baptized and everything). Along the way though, I became intelligent enough to find out that both my parents (long dead now), the religious institutions that I had attended, and society in general, all lied to me. Now some like my parents maybe didn't know any better. But religious institutions that have had many people over 2000 years to discern what I have apparently discerned in less than one lifetime, I hold a different view of them. I believe they know the real truth but don't tell the public the real truth, because if they did, they would lose their powers, authorities, job security and economic funding in this economically driven world.
Most people don't question what they are being told (some might even say being socially conditioned and/or brainwashed with).
As far as 'arguing' about God not existing except for as a concept alone, all I did in my opening comment was ask a question.
Why did you and others feel a need to comment on my thread? The real apparent truth bother you that much? Cannot handle that when we die we are dead for all of future eternity? We will forget everything we ever knew and experienced and will be forgotten one day in future eternity as if we never ever existed at all in the first place? That our very existence is ultimately meaningless in the grand scheme of things and that our very existence is ultimately a waste of space time in this universal existence?
Why do you cling to your fairy tale beliefs as if those fairy tale beliefs were really true? Why do you let others decide how you should live, what to eat, what to wear, etc? Don't you value 'freedom'?
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CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING: (Copy and paste from my files):
* There are 3 basic options for life itself, which reduce down to 2, which reduce down to only 1:
a. We truly have some sort of actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity.
b. We die trying to truly have some sort of actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity.
c. We die not trying to truly have some sort of actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity.
* 3 reduced down to 2:
a. We truly have some sort of actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity.
b. We don't. And note, two out of the three options above, we die.
* 2 reduced down to 1:
a. We truly have some sort of actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity.
b. We truly don't have any conscious existence throughout all of future eternity.
(And note, these two appear to be mutually exclusive. Only one way would be really true.)
And then ask yourself the following questions:
1. Ask yourself: How exactly do galaxies form? The current narrative is that matter, via gravity, attracts other matter. The electric universe model also includes universal plasma currents.
2. Ask yourself: How exactly do galaxies become spiral shaped in a cause and effect state of existence? At least one way would be orbital velocity of matter with at least gravity acting upon that matter, would cause a spiral shaped effect. The electric universe model also includes energy input into the galaxy, which spiral towards the galactic center, which then gets thrust out from the center, at about 90 degrees from the input.
3. Ask yourself: What does that mean for a solar system that exists in a spiral shaped galaxy? Most probably that solar system would be getting pulled toward the galactic gravitational center.
4. Ask yourself: What does that mean for species that exist on a planet, that exists in a solar system, that exists in a spiral shaped galaxy, in an apparent cause and effect state of existence? Most probably that if those species don't get off of that planet, and out of that solar system, and probably out of that galaxy too, (if it's even actually possible to do for various reasons), then they are all going to die one day from something and go extinct with probably no conscious entities left from that planet to care that they even ever existed at all in the first place, much less whatever they did and or didn't do with their time of existence.
5. Ask yourself: For those who might make it out of this galaxy, (here again, assuming it could actually be done for various reasons), where to go to next, how long to get there, how to safely land, and then, what's next? Hopefully they didn't land in another spiral shaped galaxy or a galaxy that would become spiral shaped one day, otherwise, they would have to galaxy hop through the universe to stay alive, otherwise, they still die one day from something with no conscious entities being left from the original planet to care they even ever existed at all in the first place, much less that they made it out of their own galaxy. They failed to consciously survive throughout all of future eternity.
6. Ask yourself: What exactly matters throughout all of future eternity and to whom does it exactly and eternally matter to?
Either at least one species truly consciously survives throughout all of future eternity somehow, someway, somewhere, in some state of existence, even if only by a continuous succession of ever evolving species, for life itself to have continued meaning and purpose to, OR none do and life itself is all ultimately meaningless in the grandest scheme of things.
Our true destiny currently appears to be:
1. We are ALL going to die one day from something.
2. We are ALL going to forget everything we ever knew and experienced.
3. We are ALL going to be forgotten one day in future eternity as if we never ever existed at all in the first place.
Currently:
Nature is our greatest ally in so far as Nature gives us life and a place to live it, AND Nature is also our greatest enemy that is going to take it all away. (OSICA)
* (Note: This includes the rich, powerful, and those who believe in the right to life and the sanctity of human life. God does not actually exist and Nature is not biased other than as Nature. Nature does what Nature does in a cause and effect kind of way. Truth is still truth and reality is still reality, regardless of whatever we believe that reality to be. And denying future reality will not make future reality any less real in a cause and effect state of existence.)
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@stonystoner895 GOD DOES NOT ACTUALLY EXIST.
For those who claim God exists, consider the following:
a. An actual eternally existent absolute somethingness truly existing.
b. An actual eternally existent absolute somethingness that has consciousness, memories and thoughts truly existing.
People who claim God actually and eternally exists basically are claiming that 'b' above is correct but yet simultaneously seem to be saying that 'a' is impossible to occur.
'a' above can exist without 'b' existing but 'b' cannot exist unless 'a' exists.
I am one step away from proving God's existence, but am unable to find any actual evidence to do so. And nobody I've talked to seems to have any actual evidence of God's actual existence either. Hence, at this time in the analysis, God does not actually exist except for as a concept created by humans for humans. Humans have personified Nature and called that personification "God".
* People who make super natural claims, the onus is upon them to prove their claims. They are certainly free to believe whatever they want to believe, and others are certainly free to believe whatever they want to believe. Via a lengthy analysis I currently believe that people who believe in God are delusional and are believing in fairy tales as if those fairy tales were really true. And if they couldn't prove otherwise, then they couldn't prove otherwise. They have been brainwashed well. KUDOS to those who brainwashed them.
When people believe in fairy tales as if those fairy tales were really true, society often treats those people as being delusional. Hence I do the same. The 'Good News' of the Bible is really nothing more than 'Fake News' in modern vernacular. And as such also, 'Fake News' should be removed from the public internet so as to not push those fake news stories upon others.
** Do you have any actual evidence to prove God's actual existence or have you been brainwashed into believing God actually exists? The human mind can be easily swayed. The Earth is not flat nor do we exist in a geo-centric solar system. Two things that people also believed with their whole 'heart, soul and mind' so to speak, that were really true. Both proved to be wrong. So, just believing in something, even with one's whole 'heart, soul and mind' is not good enough. Actual evidence is necessary. Where is yours?
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