Comments by "Charles Brightman" (@charlesbrightman4237) on "Kushner calls Palestinians "foolish" for rejecting peace plan" video.
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@shanerodgers9291 Israel believes it has a right to the land they already stole. They don't have a right to that land, in large part, because God does not actually exist so as to be able to give Israel that land in the first place.
(Reusable code from my files):
GOD DOES NOT ACTUALLY EXIST.
For those who claim God exists, consider the following:
a. An actual eternally existent absolute somethingness truly existing.
b. An actual eternally existent absolute somethingness that has consciousness, memories and thoughts truly existing.
People who claim God actually and eternally exists basically are claiming that 'b' above is correct but yet simultaneously seem to be saying that 'a' is impossible to occur.
'a' above can exist without 'b' existing but 'b' cannot exist unless 'a' exists.
I am one step away from proving God's existence, but am unable to find any actual evidence to do so. And nobody I've talked to seems to have any actual evidence of God's actual existence either. Hence, at this time in the analysis, God does not actually exist except for as a concept created by humans for humans. Humans have personified Nature and called that personification "God".
In addition, while modern science does not know what consciousness actually is yet, memories and thoughts appear to require a physical correctly functioning brain to have those items occur. Where is God's brain? Where are God's memories stored at? How are God's memories stored and retrieved? How does God think even a single coherent thought?
If inside of this space time dimension we appear are existing in, then where?
If outside of this space time dimension we appear are existing in, then where is the interface between that dimension and this dimension? No such interface has been discovered as of yet as far as I am currently aware of.
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@shanerodgers9291 a. "You can make this a religious argument if you want,..."
I did, and I do. It's the very basis that Israel believes it has the rights to that land in the first place. It is of prime importance to the decision that has to ultimately be made.
b. "We are where we are now either way."
So, Russia gets to keep Crimea and the world needs to get off of it's back too? And if any other nation invades and occupies another people's land, that is okay too? Once people get what they want, they like to claim that things should be kept as they are, even though it was illegally obtained in the first place. Possession of the land is all that matters?
c. "You say it’s a land grab, but the land has already been grabbed."
So has Russia already grabbed the land they wanted. And then other nations get to grab other nation's land if they want to too. The game of 'Risk' in real life. Who wins in the end with all the land?
d. "The truth is, if Obama did this you would probably be praising the plan."
I am a political Independent and not beholden to any political party. No major political party can currently win the White House without sufficient Independent's support. You judge me without even knowing me.
And when you say, "I’m only interested in the people of Israel and the people of Palestine. I could care less about their governments or religions.", then you don't fully understand the people of Israel or the people of Palestine.
e. My current viewpoint is based upon my own life and studies, and yes, also the recent media reports stating what the major points of the plan were. But, 'if' the plan is so great, then why won't the people of Palestine agree to it right away? It's not for you or me to decide, it's for the people of Palestine to decide. And they probably don't care one bit about what you or I have read, heard, seen and/or know.
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@shanerodgers9291 For some reason, your following comment shows up in my email and bell notifications, but not here. Copy and pasted your comment so I can reply to it:
"Charles Brightman The Palestinian government did the same as you. They rejected it before they even read it. I don’t think you understand how secular Israel actually is. I’ve been there, and it’s surprisingly very secular. I don’t actually care who has the land or who had the land. My point is that the current situation there is obviously not working. If Palestine is willing to destroy Israel then they need to go ahead and try and get it over with. In life there are winners and there are losers. Countries have been taking over each other since the beginning. We have all been conquered and have been the conquerors at some point. Either engage in all our war or accept a deal. That is my point. You not actually reading the deal and just using leftist talking points, doesn’t make your independent claim seem very valid. My opinions on Russia, God, Crimea, Trump, land etc have no bearing on the facts. The facts are that there is suffering on a massive scale going on in that region. I’m willing to put the biased arguments aside and look for any closure to the conflict. Sure our opinions don’t really matter, but that’s not the point of a YouTube comment section. Long drawn out conflicts do nothing but ruin generations of lives. Since you seem very concerned about Russia for some reason, I’ll give you my totally unrelated opinion. The world, America or whoever should have done something to try and stop the invasion of Crimea or just let Russia do its thing. It’s the in between stuff that I’m against. Take Afghanistan, Iraq etc for example. There is little doubt that the U.S. couple have ended those wars in weeks. Instead we played the in between stuff, made a bunch of people rich, ruined a bunch of families and spent a bunch of money. Anyways though, your deflections are pointless, if I wanted to talk about Russia, God etc I would have commented on a video concerning those things. My original comment holds true. You not the op have read the actual peace deal and have no idea if it’s good or not, which doesn’t seem very independent if I might add."
a. "I don’t actually care who has the land or who had the land."
Some people do care.
b. "In life there are winners and there are losers."
We all die in the end, there is no afterlife, and certainly not an actual afterlife that lasts throughout all of future eternity. Nature is our greatest ally in so far as Nature gives us life and a place to live it, AND Nature is also our greatest enemy that is going to take it all away. (OSICA).
c. "My opinions on Russia, God, Crimea, Trump, land etc have no bearing on the facts."
I agree. Your opinions have no bearing on the facts.
d. "You not the op have read the actual peace deal and have no idea if it’s good or not, which doesn’t seem very independent if I might add."
I have not read it and I do not intend to waste my time reading it. First, I trust the VARIOUS media sources that give me the pertinent facts. Second, it's not for me or you to decide, or even Kushner or Trump to decide. It's for the people of Palestine to decide if they agree to it or not. I am just enjoying the show while I am here to enjoy it all. I am 'Independently' enjoying it. The 6th mass extinction event that has already started upon this Earth due to natural and man-made reasons are going to wipe out many people upon this Earth anyway. Then there will be a lot of land to grab at that time. Patience, all things come to he who waits.
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@shanerodgers9291 You have your perspective and I have mine:
I do my own independent research on topics that matter in the grander scheme of things and do think for myself. Besides my Theory Of Everything idea and how numbers themselves exist in this universe for math to do what math does, and that 'God' is just a concept:
(More reusable code from my files):
Consider the following:
* There are 3 basic options for life itself, which reduce down to 2, which reduce down to only 1:
a. We truly have some sort of actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity.
b. We die trying to truly have some sort of actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity.
c. We die not trying to truly have some sort of actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity.
* 3 reduced down to 2:
a. We truly have some sort of actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity.
b. We don't. And note, two out of the three options above, we die.
* 2 reduced down to 1:
a. We truly have some sort of actual conscious existence throughout all of future eternity.
b. We truly don't have any conscious existence throughout all of future eternity.
(And note, these two appear to be mutually exclusive. Only one way would be really true.)
And then ask yourself the following questions:
1. Ask yourself: How exactly do galaxies form? The current narrative is that matter, via gravity, attracts other matter. The electric universe model also includes universal plasma currents.
2. Ask yourself: How exactly do galaxies become spiral shaped in a cause and effect state of existence? At least one way would be orbital velocity of matter with at least gravity acting upon that matter, would cause a spiral shaped effect. The electric universe model also includes energy input into the galaxy, which spiral towards the galactic center, which then gets thrust out from the center, at about 90 degrees from the input.
3. Ask yourself: What does that mean for a solar system that exists in a spiral shaped galaxy? Most probably that solar system would be getting pulled toward the galactic gravitational center.
4. Ask yourself: What does that mean for species that exist on a planet, that exists in a solar system, that exists in a spiral shaped galaxy, in an apparent cause and effect state of existence? Most probably that if those species don't get off of that planet, and out of that solar system, and probably out of that galaxy too, (if it's even actually possible to do for various reasons), then they are all going to die one day from something and go extinct with probably no conscious entities left from that planet to care that they even ever existed at all in the first place, much less whatever they did and or didn't do with their time of existence.
5. Ask yourself: For those who might make it out of this galaxy, (here again, assuming it could actually be done for various reasons), where to go to next, how long to get there, how to safely land, and then, what's next? Hopefully they didn't land in another spiral shaped galaxy or a galaxy that would become spiral shaped one day, otherwise, they would have to galaxy hop through the universe to stay alive, otherwise, they still die one day from something with no conscious entities being left from the original planet to care they even ever existed at all in the first place, much less that they made it out of their own galaxy. They failed to consciously survive throughout all of future eternity.
6. Ask yourself: What exactly matters throughout all of future eternity and to whom does it exactly and eternally matter to?
Either at least one species truly consciously survives throughout all of future eternity somehow, someway, somewhere, in some state of existence, even if only by a continuous succession of ever evolving species, for life itself to have continued meaning and purpose to, OR none do and life itself is all ultimately meaningless in the grandest scheme of things.
Our true destiny currently appears to be:
1. We are ALL going to die one day from something.
2. We are ALL going to forget everything we ever knew and experienced.
3. We are ALL going to be forgotten one day in future eternity as if we never ever existed at all in the first place.
Currently:
Nature is our greatest ally in so far as Nature gives us life and a place to live it, AND Nature is also our greatest enemy that is going to take it all away. (OSICA)
* (Note: This includes the rich, powerful, and those who believe in the right to life and the sanctity of human life. God does not actually exist and Nature is not biased other than as Nature. Nature does what Nature does in a cause and effect kind of way. Truth is still truth and reality is still reality, regardless of whatever we believe that reality to be. And denying future reality will not make future reality any less real in a cause and effect state of existence.)
** Hence also though, legalizing suicide so as to let people leave this life on their own terms if they wish to do so. Many people and species are going to die in the 6th mass extinction event that has already started, at least some, horrible deaths. Many will wish they could die, and all will, eventually. And the 6th mass extinction event will not be the last mass extinction event for this Earth. But if suicide were legal, at least some people would not have the added guilt of breaking societies' law before doing so. Just trying to plan ahead here. Giving people an 'out' if they wish to take it.
* "My point STILL stands, good day sir."
So do my points still stand, but none of them, or us, or anybody, ultimately matters in the grand scheme of things anyway. Good day sir. I am going to ignore you now.
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