Comments by "Charles Brightman" (@charlesbrightman4237) on "Walker dodges evolution question" video.

Whether via "Intelligent Design" (whereby an intelligent entity utilized the evolutionary process), or via pure evolution (whereby no intelligent entity was involved), with the next jump in evolution, (if it hasn't happened already and their numbers are just not large enough to be noticed yet), are the advanced species going to treat humans like humans treat "lower" evolved creatures? Will they exploit us for their own gain? A lot of the spying on humans, is that in part them learning about us? A politician who does not deal with reality as best as we know reality to be, does not deserve nor should they, lead us. Truth, trust and integrity should lead us.
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Ask Walker if he believes that the Earth was created before the Sun, moon and stars as the Bible claims.
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***** Your crazy. The mass amount of evidence would say otherwise that the Earth was not created before the Sun, moon and stars. But, believe what you want to. And if Walker believes it, then he's crazy too.
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Charles Brightman "God" is everywhere and in everything. "God" is both predator and prey. The one very thing "God" can never ever do is to personally experience a total cessation of conscious existence. We exist, in part at least, to cease to exist. It is the only way how "God" could experience death, is by how "God" is currently doing it. ALL things are "Godly" because ALL things are "God". "God" utilizes evolution as well as technological advances to have new experiences. It's easier that way.
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***** There are some places in the world that never see sunlight. What's your point?
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*****"God" is EVERYWHERE and in EVERYTHING. "God" is both "Christ" and "Anti-Christ". Even Satan (assuming "satan" even exists and isn't just a conceptual manifestation like the "anti-Christ" is), are ALL 100% made out of the stuff of "God". Otherwise, where did it ultimately and eternally come from if not from "God"? The Bible is a book wrote primarily by men, not "God" directly. In essence, "God" also wrote Playboy and Penthouse too.
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*****"God" is the "zero balance point" that all get it's existence from. How do we all (Individually and as a society of Individuals) want to exist while we do exist? But, however we exist, we are all going to die one day because that in part is how "God" experiences death. In part, through all of us.
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***** By analysis, it appears that whether we know it or not and/or believe it or not, we exist for "God" and we will all cease to exist for "God" as well. And the analysis also indicates that if there is not at least one truly eternally consciously existent entity that truly exists in actual reality, then all of existence ceases to matter one day because there wouldn't be any conscious entities left for it to matter to. Even if "God" is not truly eternally consciously existent in actual reality, then "God" is in the same boat we are in. "Life" matters while we exist, but it appears for us at least, we all cease to matter one day of which then did it ultimately and eternally matter at all? "Life" would be an "illusion" then. A dream. Possibly even only a dream in "God's" consciousness. But, is even "God" truly eternally consciously existent in actual reality?
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***** Rejecting the truth??? Your the one claiming that the Earth was created before the Sun, moon and stars. The Earth is not flat. The Earth is not the center of the solar system or galaxy. And the Earth was not created before the Sun, moon and stars like you claim either. They are beliefs put forward by men to control others and to have status in this world. Wake up and drink some coffee.
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***** You drank the Kool-aid, not the coffee, didn't you?
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***** Kool-aid can kill you. But, it appears we are all going to die anyway. You drink your Kool-aid, I'll drink my coffee, then we both die. Then only two possible things will occur. We either truly have an eternal conscious existence somehow, someway, somewhere and this life we are experiencing is just a tiny blip on an eternal journey of conscious experiences, (the eternal journey is the destination), (Or, and more probably the current evidence shows), We don't truly have an eternal conscious existence no how, no way, no where. We die, we're, dead, for eternity. All of our memories and life's experiences are gone forever. "Life" is an "illusion". It matters while we exist, but from the human perspective as far as eternity is concerned, it ceases to matter to us one day, of which then did it all matter in the first place? Now, with that said, since there is much I or even all of humanity does not know, nor possibly may ever know, believing in a conscious afterlife and that we will all see our loved ones again one day, can help to reduce stress in a person's life which thereby could have potentially positive health benefits that you wouldn't otherwise have. If it's true, good thing you believed in it. If it's not true, well, it all wouldn't matter anyway then what a person believes or not believes. I'll ask you this. If it is true that "God" is in charge of it all and we do all have a conscious afterlife somehow, someway, then why does "God" have so many different versions of what the afterlife entails? And if the Bible is really true concerning the afterlife, then why didn't "God" tell the cave people that right from the beginning? Why wait to tell humanity the "good news"? (Or is it more likely that we have all been conned by the Catholic Church with their Bible?).
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Charles Brightman Good thing you drink water, I hope it is clean and abundant for you. Try electrolyzing it with preferably green energy to make hydrogen and oxygen that you can store to later use to get the electricity back and even create heat.
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***** I believe we should all, nationally and globally, move this world to utilizing pure hydrogen. First bring it to homes and businesses. It could be delivered just like LP Gas and Natural Gas are today. Other uses could eventually follow. And, it's carbon free. If we desalinate and electrolyze the rising ocean water, preferably utilizing green energy, but could utilize natural gas and sequester the carbon onsite, we could also put a downward pressure on the rising ocean water. But, if you elect Republicans into office here in the USA, you can forget that from even happening, at least for a long time. They are the ones addicted to fossil fuels and money not the rest of us. If they could only see themselves as an energy supply company and not as a fossil fuel company, it could be a win-win for everybody, even long term profitability for them. But, they probably won't. So, it's up to humanity to oust all the Republicans out of office so we can truly do what's best for humanity and not just a select few. Republicans that cling to the Bible are not dealing with full reality and therefore make bad decisions. Personally, I believe the formal political parties should be "outlawed" in the formal government, all politicians should be Independents. That would allow more flexibility for politicians and hopefully better governance of "we the people". There would most likely still be informal groups around certain issues, but the formal political parties in government itself should be done away with. The politicians themselves won't do it, just like fossil fuel people won't go to hydrogen until they make all the profits they can off of oil and natural gas first, (even though it might be bad for the rest of us), so the people have to rise up and do it ourselves. Good luck looking into it. I sincerely hope your successful.
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Frank Spange So, state your case, why is it "false"?
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Frank Spange "I look at the facts and the facts point to intelligent design. Darwin also thought that there must be a designer. And as to earth before the sun stuff, God first made parts of the universe before making the earth because since the beginning the universe has been expanding. Huge universe out there." I agree with Intelligent Design and I never said I didn't. By my own personal analysis I can show that, utilizing "Occam's razor", it is highly probable that an entity I call "God" truly exists and is most probably everywhere and in everything. Universe before Sun stuff. That's the point. The Bible claims the Earth was created before the Sun, moon and stars (and so does the Jewish Torah by the way), of which just does not seem to be true. Hence my original post above: "Ask Walker if he believes that the Earth was created before the Sun, moon and stars as the Bible claims." So, how is this false?
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Frank Spange "Have you ever even opened up a bible?" I was born into and raised as a Lutheran. I have studied many translations of the canonized scriptures, non-canonized documents, and even heretical writings. So, yes, I have opened up a bible. I believe there is core truth in the Bible. I believe there is great wisdom in the Bible that if followed, one could potentially have a healthier, happier and even potentially longer life. I also firmly believe that there are things in the Bible that are not 100% true. If something is not 100% true, what else can it contain but lies? Now, I don't think "God" would lie, nor have a reason to lie, (and I fully acknowledge I could be wrong), but humans sure do lie and even believe at times they have justifiable reasons to lie. People who try to force upon society their views based upon the Bible I believe to be wrong. Since they are not dealing with reality as reality is perceived to really be, I believe they should not occupy critical positions of leadership in this nation, (or the world for that matter), and certainly not the Presidency.
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Frank Spange "Look into Cambrian explosion, galapagos finch list goes on and on agents evolution. Even if we where to look at the first cell, did you know one cell has over 40 parts? It is said that only 10 of the 40 would only be on this earth at the time of the clam and that the other 30 are unexplainable. Sorry but I'm going with intelligent design." Again, no argument from me. I personally believe, through analysis, that the entity I call "God" is everywhere and in everything. "God" is experiencing physical life through all things physical, even death, the one very thing "God" can not supposedly ever do. "God" utilizing evolution as well as technological advances makes it easier on "God" to have new experiences without really trying. Pretty smart "God" if you ask me. So, again, I am still trying to understand why you said after my comments above that they were false?
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Frank Spange "Occam's razor I just looked up and even it says it's just assumptions." Agreed. It is possible that everything came into existence from absolutely nothingness all on it's own and all just by chance. It's just that the odds of how everything came to be and is by that way is just so astronomically improbable that to me it is utterly ridiculous to believe that is how it all happened. But, I will be the first to acknowledge I could be wrong. Based upon utilizing Occam's razor though, I'm probably not.
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Frank Spange "And if you say everything it god then that means everyone is god." No, not really I believe. Everything in existence is 100% made out of the stuff of "God", but even everything put together in this entire universe wouldn't equal the totality of "God". The analysis I've done would indicate the entity I call "God" is truly multi-dimensional beyond our human perception of realty at this time. We are one with "God" and one with all things in existence through "God". "We are one". And hence "God" is both predator and prey. "God" through man, wrote not only the Bible, but Playboy and Penthouse as well. "God" is "Christ" and "Anti-Christ". "God" is everything. In fact, one could even argue that only "God" exists in the form of all things. It is possible at least by analysis that we don't really exist but "God" exists as us. It is highly probably (again utilizing Occam's razor), that the only way an eternally conscious entity can ever experience death is by how "God" is actually doing it. "We" exist, at least in part, to cease to exist. It appears by analysis that whether a person knows it or not and/or believes it or not, "we" exist for "God" and will cease to exist for "God" as well. But, I fully admit, I could be wrong. It's just that is how the current analysis that I've done concludes to.
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Frank Spange "Well, let just get this straight. Christians spread the Bible ..." (and the rest of your statement from above). So the Roman Catholic Church says. I happen to believe they are lying. Please remember, they were the ones who put all those writings together at a time when no one would question the church. Even look what they did to Galileo, for in hindsight, apparently was telling the truth. This coming from a faith who is supposed to live in and preach truth. Now, the analysis would suggest that a man whom we call "Jesus" truly did exist, most likely was a speaker of what he believed in, and was indeed tortured and put to death by the Romans. (Now, I wasn't there, nor do I believe you were). If you truly do study the scriptures you should also find out that many New Testament books in the Bible were wrote most likely by someone other than who is claimed to have wrote it. (A lie by the way). In addition, a deeper study of scripture also indicates that many writings in the Bible have also be altered and even added to, most probably also by someone other than the original author. (Hence more lies). The Bible also claims that "ask and ye shall receive". I've asked to have a two-way conversation with "God" in a language I can understand and have also yet to receive. Now, who can keep "God" from me but "God"? Or, is this quote a lie in the Bible too? "God" supposed talked to humans before, as depicted in the Bible as well as other religions too, so why doesn't "God" talk to humanity today? I personally believe we all could use a good talking to with "God", but yet it hasn't happened. So, why not? Or, is even "God" talking to humans a lie also in the Bible? Yes, the Bible claims that there were eye witnesses to Jesus' resurrection, but even those accounts differ. So, which account in the Bible is the real truth? Unless we exist in some sort of parallel universe, I don't see how they all could be true. But, I fully acknowledge, there is much I truly do not know. Maybe we do exist in a parallel universe. But, if Jesus truly did rise from the dead, fully in body, spirit, soul, bones and all, then why haven't even his very own apostles been risen from the dead yet as their very bones are still protected and venerated by the Earthly church? And yet, the man on the cross next to Jesus went to Paradise that day per scripture. And a study of how the human brain actually functions, it is really hard to believe, especially without any real evidence except that comes from a lying Bible, that Jesus really truly did rise from the grave as the same individual. Every single atom, molecule and quantum energy would have to be in it's exact place for Jesus to be whom Jesus was. I acknowledge possible, just not very probable. And also, assuming Jesus truly conquered death, then why do we and even animals still die? The evidence just all seems to point to the Roman Catholic Church lying, even with the Bible that they put together.
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Frank Spange "Let's just get this straight, I'm a Christian and I know life did not come from nothingness." I agree with you. The analysis does not indicate we came from absolutely nothingness nor does it indicate we came from an unconscious somethingness. The analysis, (albeit utilizing Occam's razor), indicates that all things in existence came from a conscious somethingness. I call that somethingness "God". I put "God" in quotation marks to signify that "God" is truly beyond my current human perspective. But yet, many people in this world not only don't believe "God" exists, but also believe that everything in existence actually came to be from absolutely nothingness, all on it's own, and all just by chance. I acknowledge possible, just really, really astronomically improbable.
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Frank Spange "I still don't understand why you think that." I'm sorry Frank, I tried to keep up with you, hence copying your questions into my responses, but I lost track of what this applies to. If I missed something, please ask me again to hopefully get us on the same page so to speak.
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Frank Spange "If that where true then God would not kill himself, the world is not getting better it's getting worse. And you are saying that we are all god..." "God" can apparently only experience death by how "God" is apparently doing it, through things that die. Why "God" had to separate "God's" main self from "us" self. But all is "God". At least this is what the analysis shows. And I fully acknowledge I could be wrong as there is so much that I do not know nor may ever know, but even that I don't know for 100% certainty. The analysis also indicates that if there is not at least one truly eternally consciously existent entity that truly exists in reality, then all things (even "God's" existence if "God" is not truly eternally consciously existent in actual reality) is ultimately and eternally meaningless as there wouldn't be a conscious entity left for it to have meaning to. All of existence would be an "illusion". It matters while we exist, but it all ceases to matter one day. Now, if "God" truly eternally exists, but "we" don't as our individual selves, then life from our human perspective would lose all meaning to us one day then too of which then did it ultimately and eternally matter in the first place? It might matter to "God", but into "God's" actual eternity? Maybe, but eternity is a very long time. Of which it appears our true destiny by analysis at this time indicates that: "we cease to exist and are forgotten, even by "God" into "God's" eternity". But, I fully acknowledge I could be wrong. It's just that is what the analysis shows.
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Frank Spange I have come to a couple of conclusions: 1) Either we truly do have a conscious existence somehow, someway, somewhere and this life we are experiencing is just a tiny blip on an eternal journey of conscious experiences (the eternal journey is the destination), (Or, and more probably the analysis shows), 2) We don't. "Life" while it matters while we exist, ceases to matter one day and hence is just an "illusion". "What exactly matters into eternity and to whom does it exactly matter to?" "God" alone? and/or "Me" too? and/or "Some other entity or entities"? (Or) to no eternally consciously existent entity at all? Which answer is the very real truth? I don't know for sure but the current analysis would indicate that it does not include us. (But maybe it does). I wrote "The Suckiness of Life": Life sucks and we die and/or life does not suck and we still die. Then we either have a life after this life (which will suck and/or not suck), or we won't (all suckiness will end for eternity). While we exist, if life sucks, do something to make it better and then life won't suck so bad. And also I wrote which helps me keep going: "Find happiness in your conscious journey of experiences, however long they may last for, and that part of your consciously existent journey will be a happier journey".
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Frank Spange You obviously never played the telephone game. When things are passed on verbally, they get quite corrupt very quickly at times, (hence not true). Just more "evidence" that the Bible is full of lies then, thanks. And yes, I am a troubled person due to in part it appears that my parents, the religious institutions that I have attended, and society in general have all lied to me. I do find that very troubling. Good observation on your part. Help to stop the lying and I might get better. Even you admit up top that the Catholic church made their own version of the Bible. That's part of the problem, don't you see? You say "God" talks to you? Are you sure your not crazy? You say you are hearing voices? What's "God's" voice sound like? "God" is telling you what to do and not do, really? So then, people who do die in crashes, according to you, would all just be "God's" will and maybe not due to distracted driving by having some entity talk to them while they were driving? Your the one who's crazy sir. And hence also is why people like yourself, as well as "Christians", as well as Republicans in general, and as well as Scott Walker above which started this whole thing off, should never ever be in critical positions of authority in this nation or this world. Because you are not dealing with reality, real reality. Not some made up reality. The way the human brain works as I understand it to be so far is that the brain gets "wired' as you experience "life". Some people have been "brain guided" and some maybe even "brain washed" and their brain has been "wired" a certain way. Even if those people are presented with what appears to be the very real truth, (even though their very own beliefs say they should live in truth), they will still reject the real truth for the truth that their brain was wired to receive. Basically, "you drank the Kool-aid" so to speak.
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Frank Spange As far as the "illusion" goes: If there is not at least one truly eternally consciously existent entity in actual reality that truly exists, then all things will cease to matter one day due to no conscious entities left for anything at all to matter to. Of which then, did anything or anyone ultimately and eternally matter in the first place? Hence, "life" is an "illusion". Now, if "God" is truly eternally consciously existent, but we, whatever "we" truly are, are not individually eternally consciously existent in actual reality, then all things, even "God's" very existence, will cease to matter to us as far as eternity is concerned. It may eternally matter to "God", but how could it ever matter to us if we were not eternally consciously there? Now, the question would also arise, would we even eternally matter to "God" into "God's" eternity? Eternity is a very long time. Maybe, but doubtful, eternity is a very long time. Hence the current conclusion that our true destiny is: "To cease to exist and be forgotten even by 'God' into 'God's' actual eternity". Now, some believe we have a conscious "soul" that exists for eternity. Maybe, but there is no evidence to support that we really do. The evidence highly appears to suggest that when we die, we're dead, for eternity. The evidence also indicates that some people even lose their consciousness before they even physically die. But, with that said, we don't even know yet what consciousness truly is yet either. Maybe it is true somehow. But, the more we learn about the physical brain, it sure does look like our consciousness, whatever it is, appears to be connected to our physical brain. When our brain dies, so does our consciousness it appears. But, I fully acknowledge there is much I nor even all of humanity does not know yet nor maybe ever will. But, I believe the truth is still the truth, whatever the real truth really is. It is what I call "absolute truth". The 100% correct and 100% complete set of facts. And I fully acknowledge that maybe only the entity I call "God" has total absolute truth. But truly, I don't know for sure. You live out your fantasy, I'll live out mine. If there truly is another existence after this life, (doubtful at this time based upon the evidence, but there is much that is not known), maybe I'll see you on the other side and we can drink "Kool-aid" together.
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Frank Spange Memories can become very corrupt very quickly the evidence appears to indicate. I urge you to study more of how the human brain actually works. Whether you know it or not and/or believe it or not, it appears by analysis, that we all exist for "God" (so "God" can experience "God's" Self in various evolutionary forms), and we will all die for "God" as well (as that is the only way how "God" can experience death, is by how "God" is apparently doing it even today). Enjoy your Kool-Aid. And Scott Walker should definitely not be President with his hands on the nuclear football.
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Frank Spange Enjoy, and please, look into how the human brain functions. I think it might be enlightening for you. Peace.
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