Comments by "RB 70" (@RB-bd5tz) on "Spy Octopus Helps Friend Hide From Shark" video.

  1. An octopus is a solitary animal. It does not understand friendship, gratitude, or love. It would never occur to an octopus to hug someone. Also, a hug goes around the body of the person/animal receiving the hug; this just was an investigative touch.
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  2.  @FrxBass  Octopuses are known for being intelligent and curious. No one has proven that they can feel friendship, gratitude, or love. And of course not, because there is NO REASON for them to feel these things. They do not even feel social! If an animal is not social, how can it possibly understand friendship, gratitude, or love?
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  3.  @FrxBass  In a video where everything else is a lie, I would not trust the statement that the octopus gave the robot a hug.
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  4. It's an exploratory, investigative gesture. There is no evidence that octopuses feel "love" and "appreciation" as we know it.
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  5.  @Teezythadon  Well, I'm not getting Netflix just to watch the whole thing, but I watched an interview and some clips on YT, including the "hug" scene. The octopus's gestures can generally be attributed to curiosity, exploration, and investigation. What we can gather for sure is that she had this big creature constantly in her life, which she eventually determined not to be dangerous. This does not mean she accepted him as a "friend"; she just tolerated his presence. Even the "hug" - well, there's no evidence that an octopus understands the amicable or social nature of a hug (remember, it's a fundamentally solitary creature), so we really don't know why she clung to him. She could have simply appreciated his body heat. I used to catch garter snakes as a kid, and, even though they resisted at first, eventually they'd voluntarily wrap around my hand and not be inclined to leave, even if I held them back near the ground. This doesn't mean they "loved" me; they just liked my body heat. Octopuses apparently exhibit some more primitive emotions, such as fear, anger, and even frustration, but friendship and love are far more complex. We have to be careful how much we anthropomorphize animals.
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  6. Sorry to break it to you, but everything about this video is fake.
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  7. Ah; someone with critical thinking skills. If you watch closely, you can find evidence of the fakery throughout.
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  8. No, but it is fake. Different scenes from nature and inside an aquarium all stitched together with a phony story.
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  9. Remoras. They eat the parasites and, well, also the feces of their hosts.
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  10. Sorry to break it to you, but it's entirely fake.
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  11.  @becominghero9754  0:32 Oh, look at that - a bamboo tube, conveniently sized for the lid soon to come. 0:55 Completely different seafloor; looks like an aquarium: where is the background? And how did the spy octopus happen to find a perfect half-coconut, cut to fit the bamboo tube? Are these two items commonly found on the seafloor in close proximity? And how did it put it on itself? 1:01 Natural-looking seafloor again. 1:08 Aquarium again. 2:17 "The perfect fit." Of course. 2:24 Note that the spy octopus is far away from the tube. 2:30 The spy octopus is suddenly beside some coral or whatever, which it wasn't beside at 2:24. 2:44 The seafloor changes again, and the spy octopus is still far from the tube. 2:57 Definitely an aquarium. You can see that some of the white flecks are stationary on the near glass, while others float around, and the suckers on the octopus's nearest arm definitely, obviously press against the glass wall. 3:00 Suddenly the spy octopus is right beside the tube again for the "hug" - which is NOT a hug; it's an investigation. Octopuses are asocial; there is no evidence that octopuses feel "love" or "appreciation", nor any reason for them to do so.
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  12.  @becominghero9754  This video is stitched together from a bunch of different footage according to a script. See how the seafloor around the robot octopus, and the robot's distance from the real octopus, continually changes. And see the suckers sticking to the aquarium glass at 2:57. Also, an octopus is a solitary animal. It does not understand friendship, gratitude, or love. It would never occur to an octopus to hug someone. Also, a hug goes around the body of the person/animal receiving the hug; this just was an investigative touch.
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  13.  @becominghero9754  If you have the time, sort the comments by "newest first" and scroll back about 3 months to my detailed comment that begins, "FAKE FAKE FAKE! Nauseating fakery." Too bad Big Brother won't let me post this kind of stuff anymore.
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  14.  @becominghero9754  If you have the time, sort the comments by "newest first" and scroll back about 3 months to my detailed comment that begins, "FAKE FAKE FAKE! Nauseating fakery."
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  15.  @VColossalV  Yes, octopuses are intelligent; I recommend Mark Rober's "Octopus vs Underwater Maze." But there is much evidence that octopuses are curious, and none that they feel love or appreciation, so I'm going with an investigative probe, especially considering that everything else about this video is fake (i.e., scripted, and filmed at least partly in an aquarium), so I don't buy this "hug" idea for one second. See how the "seafloor" keeps changing; see how the robot octopus is near the real one in the tube to give it the coconut, then far away for a while, and then, all of a sudden, near again for the "hug." Be suspicious that the perfect half-coconut was in close proximity to the bamboo, and that they have the exact same diameter; question why the coconut is spotlessly clean inside, and how the robot "found" it and put it on its own head. Wonder why they need this "spy" robot, when they surround the scene with other cameras anyway. Most tellingly, see how the real octopus's suckers press against a glass wall (between it and us) at 2:57. I urge you to watch these nature videos with a critical eye; I've seen many obvious fakes.
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  16.  @VColossalV  (I'm reposting this since it seems to have disappeared.) Yes, octopuses are intelligent; I recommend Mark Rober's "Octopus vs Underwater Maze." But there is much evidence that octopuses are curious, and none that they feel love or appreciation, so I'm going with an investigative probe, especially considering that everything else about this video is fake (i.e., scripted, and filmed at least partly in an aquarium), so I don't buy this "hug" idea for one second. See how the "seafloor" keeps changing; see how the robot octopus is near the real one in the tube to give it the coconut, then far away for a while, and then, all of a sudden, near again for the "hug." Be suspicious that the perfect half-coconut was in close proximity to the bamboo, and that they have the exact same diameter; question why the coconut is spotlessly clean inside, and how the robot "found" it and put it on its own head. Wonder why they need this "spy" robot, when they surround the scene with other cameras anyway. Most tellingly, see how the real octopus's suckers press against a glass wall (between it and us) at 2:57. I urge you to watch these nature videos with a critical eye; I've seen many obvious fakes.
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  17.  @angelmartin7310  First, if you haven't read my other comments in this thread, please do. Second, from a Christian perspective, though God is love (1 John 4:8), there is a sharp divide between humans and animals. Humans are the only creatures explicitly said to have free will (e.g., Deut 30:19). It is impossible to feel real love without free will, and the cutoff point of complexity at which animals can be said to even have free will is indistinct. Can deep-sea sponges feel love? They don't even have brains. How about plants, protists, and rocks? Does your dog even really, truly love you as a human can? Hard to say. Also, God created Satan (originally Lucifer, who went astray) and Satan certainly is not love, and cannot love - and even some people, such as extreme narcissists, are incapable of feeling love. But, back to the video. Saying that this octopus engaged in an act of affection is the capstone falsehood of this completely fake video - made by liars who follow Satan, the father of lies - and the danger of it is that people who believe this story may be persuaded to believe anything that is presented to them as "science."
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  18. octopus roboticus
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  19. FAKE FAKE FAKE! Nauseating fakery. 0:32 Oh, look at that - a tube. How convenient. 0:55 Completely different seafloor; looks like an aquarium. And how did the spy octopus happen to find a perfect dome, and how did it put it on itself? 1:01 Natural seafloor again. 1:08 Aquarium again. 2:17 "The perfect fit." Of course. 2:24 Note that the spy octopus is far away from the tube. 2:30 The spy octopus is suddenly beside some coral or whatever, which it wasn't beside at 2:24. 2:44 The seafloor changes again, and the spy octopus is still far from the tube. 2:57 Definitely an aquarium. Some of the white flecks are stationary on the near glass, and the suckers on the octopus's nearest arm obviously stick to the glass. 3:00 Suddenly the spy octopus is right beside the tube again for the "hug" - which is NOT a hug; it's an investigation. Stop anthropomorphizing animals! Remember folks - these people are in show business.
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  20.  @FS-sb  Tubes that exactly fit the lid that the robot eventually brings ...
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  21.  @FS-sb  All right; I shall endeavour to be more pedantic. The diameter of the bamboo perfectly matches the diameter of the half-coconut, which, by the way, looks perfectly cut into a hemisphere as if by a knife, and its edge happens to match the edge of the bamboo perfectly. By the way, the coconut is also perfectly clean and smooth inside; hmm. So: how often are two such remnants of terrestrial plants found in such close proximity on the ocean floor?
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  22. These people are in show business - so they faked it. Some of this is inside an aquarium. Note how the seafloor changes all the time, how the spy octopus is suddenly far away from, and then near, the real octopus in the tube, and how the suckers on the real octopus's nearest tentacle stick to the glass at 2:57.
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  23. ​ @FrxBass  Oh, right; I should defer to someone who speaks and thinks the octopus language, who was raised by octopuses in the octopus civilization of octopustown. Sorry, just kidding; you didn't deserve that. But I do have some serious advice: Don't trust everything that's presented as "science". These frauds saying that this octopus engaged in an act of affection is the climactic falsehood of this completely fake, scripted video. Note that the real octopus is never shown to be in actual danger of the sharks. Also note how the seafloor keeps changing from scene to scene (plants appear and disappear, and there's not even any background at 0:55 - it's an aquarium!). And the spy octopus is close to the real one to "give it the coconut", then far away to be "attacked by sharks", then suddenly near the real one again to "get the hug". At 2:57, the real octopus is unquestionably inside an aquarium: Some of the white debris is stationary on the near glass, while other bits float around, and the octopus's nearest tentacle stops unnaturally where it presses against the glass. So, now do you believe anything they say? It is obvious that octopuses are intelligent and curious, but there is NO evidence that they feel love or appreciation. And why would they? They do not socialize except to mate or fight, and they never help each other. This video isn't science, and it's not even entertainment - it's deception.
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  24.  @FrxBass  Wow, it's amazing what YT will censor! They really want you to think this video is genuine. I don't know if you got my last reply, but let me try again: An octopus is a SOLITARY ANIMAL. Them saying that this octopus engaged in an act of affection is the capstone falsehood of this completely fake video. Check out how the seafloor keeps changing from one scene to the next. And some of this is obviously filmed in an aquarium: At 2:57, some of the white debris is stationary on the near glass, while other bits float around, and the octopus's nearest tentacle stops unnaturally where it presses against the glass. So, now do you believe anything they say? What evidence do you have that this is gratitude? Can you read its mind?
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  25.  @FrxBass  Them saying that this octopus engaged in an act of affection is the capstone falsehood of this completely fake video. Check out how the seafloor keeps changing from one scene to the next. And some of this is obviously filmed in an aquarium: At 2:57, some of the white debris is stationary on the near glass, while other bits float around, and the octopus's nearest tentacle stops unnaturally where it presses against the glass. So, now do you believe anything they say? What evidence do you have that this is gratitude? Can you read its mind?
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  26.  @FrxBass  The whole video is fake. Check out how the seafloor keeps changing from one scene to the next. And some of this is obviously filmed in an aquarium: At 2:57, some of the white debris is stationary on the near glass, while other bits float around, and the octopus's nearest tentacle stops unnaturally where it presses against the glass. So, now do you believe anything they say?
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  27.  @elpyrof2p926  Check out how the seafloor keeps changing from one scene to the next. And some of this is obviously filmed in an aquarium: At 2:57, some of the white debris is stationary on the near glass, while other bits float around, and the octopus's nearest tentacle stops unnaturally where it presses against the glass. Now do you believe anything they say?
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  28.  @angelle-vx3et  1. Who has proven that felines feel friendship, gratitude, or love? Cats can show that they LIKE you (source of food and warmth), but do they LOVE you? That is a HUGE leap. And we can't be certain that acts that seem like love (e.g., the "self-sacrifice" of birds pretending to be injured to lead predators away from their nest) aren't just instict. 2. Humans, in general, can feel friendship, gratitude, and love. Exceptions exist, but don't invalidate the point. They're EXCEPTIONS. 3. If you believe anything in this video is as the narrator describes, I can only say (with love :) ), stop being naive. The statement that the octopus is "hugging" the robot out of appreciation is ludicrous, unsupported speculation at best, and a lie at worst.
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  29.  @nickkorkodylas5005  You don't understand what projection is, and you don't even know me. What I'm doing here is simply advising people to be skeptical of what they see on YT. Turn on your BS detector, and you'll see all the fakery in this video.
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  30. @ I've watched an interview and some clips on YT, including the "hug" scene. The octopus's gestures can generally be attributed to curiosity, exploration, and investigation. What we can gather for sure is that she had this big creature constantly in her life, which she eventually determined not to be dangerous. This does not mean she accepted him as a "friend"; she just tolerated his presence. Even the "hug" - well, there's no evidence that an octopus understands the amicable or social nature of a hug (remember, it's a fundamentally solitary creature), so we really don't know why she clung to him. She could have simply appreciated his body heat. I used to catch garter snakes as a kid, and, even though they resisted at first, eventually they'd voluntarily wrap around my hand and not be inclined to leave, even if I held them back near the ground. This doesn't mean they "loved" me; they just liked my body heat. Octopuses apparently exhibit some more primitive emotions, such as fear, anger, and even frustration, but friendship and love are far more complex. If you believe anything in this video is as the narrator describes, I can only say (with love :) ), stop being naive. The statement that the octopus is "hugging" the robot out of appreciation is ludicrous, unsupported speculation at best, and a lie at worst. We have to be careful how much we anthropomorphize animals.
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  31. Relax; this is aquarium footage.
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  32.  @GoobyGoober-ho1ls 2:57 See the white particles stuck to the glass. And then the octopus's suckers also stick to the glass.
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  33.  @GoobyGoober-ho1ls  MY false narrative? Rich! This whole video is a false narrative: 0:32 Oh, look at that - a bamboo tube, conveniently sized for the lid soon to come. 0:55 Completely different seafloor; looks like an aquarium: where is the background? And how did the spy octopus happen to find a perfect half-coconut, cut to fit the bamboo tube? Are these two items commonly found on the seafloor in close proximity? And how did it put it on itself? 1:01 Natural-looking seafloor again. 1:08 Aquarium again. 2:17 "The perfect fit." Of course. 2:24 Note that the spy octopus is far away from the tube. 2:30 The spy octopus is suddenly beside some coral or whatever, which it wasn't beside at 2:24. 2:44 The seafloor changes again, and the spy octopus is still far from the tube. 2:57 Definitely an aquarium. If you watch on a big enough screen, you see that some of the white flecks are stationary on the near glass, while others float around, and the suckers on the octopus's nearest arm definitely, obviously press against the glass wall. 3:00 Suddenly the spy octopus is right beside the tube again for the "hug" - which is NOT a hug; it's an investigation. There is no evidence that octopuses feel "love" or "appreciation." Also note that the real octopus is never shown to be in actual danger of the sharks. This clip is nothing but entertainment presented as science. This particular instance is merely deceitful - but the problem comes when people trust everything that's presented as "science."
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  34. Cleverly filmed all right - because it's fake. Some of this is inside an aquarium. Note how the seafloor changes all the time, how the spy octopus is suddenly far away from, and then near, the real octopus in the tube, and how the suckers on the real octopus's nearest tentacle stick to the glass at 2:57.
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  35. It's a remora; it sticks to the shark and eats its parasites and poop.
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  36. Here's why it looks fake: 0:32 Oh, look at that - a tube. How convenient. 0:55 Completely different seafloor; looks like an aquarium. And how did the spy (robot) octopus happen to find a perfect dome, and how did it put it on itself? 1:01 Natural seafloor again. 1:08 Aquarium again. 2:17 "The perfect fit." Of course. 2:24 Note that the spy octopus is far away from the tube. 2:30 The spy octopus is suddenly beside some coral or whatever, which it wasn't beside at 2:24. 2:44 The seafloor changes again, and the spy octopus is still far from the tube. 2:57 Definitely an aquarium. Some of the white flecks are stationary on the near glass, and the suckers on the octopus's nearest arm obviously stick to the glass. 3:00 Suddenly the spy octopus is right beside the tube again for the "hug" - which is NOT a hug; it's an investigation.
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  37. The "spy" octopus is a robot. And the whole video and story are fake.
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  38. Relax; it's all staged and fake. You can tell it's in an aquarium (see the seafloor always changing, and the suckers sticking to the glass at 2:57).
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  39. Be secure in the knowledge that it is fake. I'm finding that if you look closely at many of these "documentaries", you can find the fakery. 0:32 Oh, look at that - a tube. How convenient. 0:55 Completely different seafloor; looks like an aquarium. And how did the spy octopus happen to find a perfect dome, and how did it put it on itself? 1:01 Natural seafloor again. 1:08 Aquarium again. 2:17 "The perfect fit." Of course. 2:24 Note that the spy octopus is far away from the tube. 2:30 The spy octopus is suddenly beside some coral or whatever, which it wasn't beside at 2:24. 2:44 The seafloor changes again, and the spy octopus is still far from the tube. 2:57 Definitely an aquarium. Some of the white flecks are stationary on the near glass, and the suckers on the octopus's nearest arm obviously stick to the glass. 3:00 Suddenly the spy octopus is right beside the tube again for the "hug" - which is NOT a hug; it's an investigation.
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  40. The filmmakers staged all of this. Fake octopus, fakely puting a dome on its head, moving around randomly changing seafloors.
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  41. Too bad the videographers are so deceitful. This video is fake.
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  42. Relax. The video is fake, filmed in an aquarium.
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  43. No, it's stitched together from a bunch of different footage according to a script. See how the seafloor around the robot octopus, and the robot's distance from the real octopus, continually changes. And see the suckers sticking to the aquarium glass at 2:57.
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  44. Actually, pretending it's nature. (The video is fake.)
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  45. @TheGentlemanDunkleosteus His issue is that this film is a bunch of different footage stitched together according to a script. See how the seafloor around the robot octopus, and the robot's distance from the real octopus, continually changes. And see the suckers sticking to the aquarium glass at 2:57.
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  46. NONE of this video is natural. It's various footage stitched together to a script, and narrated.
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  47. Sorry; octopuses don't hug. It was an exploratory gesture. The whole video and story is fake. You can see at 2:57 that the octopus is in an aquarium; its suckers stick to the glass.
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  48.  @GregoryTheGr8ster If it's so easy to evolve lungs, please explain how that would happen.
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  49. They're remoras. They stick to the shark with a suction cup and eat their parasites (and feces).
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  50. It's not a very good video. It's a lie from start to finish.
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  51. That is not a theory; it's a fantasy.
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  52. The video is completely fake.
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  53. It's all staged. Watch it closely and you'll see the seafloor keep changing, as well as the distance of the spy octopus to the real one in the tube. The most obvious clue is the suckers sticking to the glass at 2:57.
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  54. You can stop crying, and get angry instead because these documentary producers are lying to you. This video is a bunch of clips stitched together according to a script. Much, if not all, is filmed in an aquarium (see the seafloor keep changing, and the suckers stick to the glass at 2:57).
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  55. Relax; it's in an aquarium - check out how the seafloor keeps changing, and especially how the suckers stick to the glass wall at 2:57.
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  56. There is a ton of evidence in this video that it was, indeed, created - according to a script. But the video creator wasn't perfect, though, because if you look carefully and think critically, the fakery is quite obvious. (By the way, I know what you really mean.)
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  57. It's a robot.
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  58. They're "interfering" in the sense that the whole video and story are set up according to a script. At least some of it is filmed in an aquarium.
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  59. Correct. You shouldn't believe it, because it's fake.
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  60. Sorry; this video is staged. The octopus that brought the coconut is a robot, and the whole video is various footage edited together according to a script.
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  61. Sorry; octopuses don't hug. It was an exploratory gesture. The whole video and story is fake. You can see at 2:57 that the octopus is in an aquarium; its suckers stick to the glass.
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  62. It didn't; it's all staged. Some of this is inside an aquarium. Note how the seafloor changes all the time, how the spy octopus is suddenly far away from, and then near, the real octopus in the tube, and how the suckers on the real octopus's nearest tentacle stick to the glass at 2:57.
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  63. Then it's a very, very good spy octopus. (Hint: it's a robot.)
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  64. They're not interfering with nature; this video was faked in an aquarium.
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  65. Octopuses don't understand "thanks." It was an investigative gesture.
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  66. Relax. There's evidence throughout the video that it's fake. The seafloor randomly changes, the robot octopus keeps changing distance to the real one, and the real octopus's suckers stick to the aquarium glass at 2:57.
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