Comments by "Paddle Duck" (@paddleduck5328) on "David Pakman Show" channel.

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  3. You call being dishonest a technicality? No, he’s not Nader period. Sorry, it was a primary. And Hillary and her camp went hard at Bernie. But either way, it wasn’t a coronation I’m sorry to tell you. As much as they tried to make it one. If Bernie has been the forerunner in the primary (and then lost against Trump as she did), how would you like Hillary to be blamed for Bernie’s loss against Trump? Hillary and Debbie wasserman Schultz railroaded other democratic candidates too. They just weren’t popular like Bernie and dropped out early. If they stayed in, they would’ve been fighting tooth and nail against the Clinton machine. But you’d be blaming them too if they’d gone further, I suppose. I guess in your world candidates (named Clinton) aren’t supposed to be challenged? And those not named Clinton are supposed to have both arms tied behind their back. If she was so weak (of a candidate, not as a person) that she couldn’t take the little bit that Bernie challenged her with, how did you expect her to survive the maelstrom from her Republican challenger? Do you also have this characterization of Barack Obama from the 2008 campaign? That was pretty brutal. I guess Obama is Nader 2.0 then also? Or would have been had he lost the primary. Phew. Lucky for Clinton she lost in 2008. Or you’d be calling President Obama a Ralph Nader for fighting back against the vicious smears Hillary’s campaign threw his way. Or maybe you’re not old enough to remember all that so you don’t know what you’re talking about.
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  20. SirToby, I don’t really care about arguing what exact percentage responsibility Farrakhan had. I don’t like the guy a all. You seem to be downplaying it and angry he’d get any credit and I’m confused why. Most of the references to the Million Man March I read refers to it as his march. I certainly didn’t didn’t create it out of thin air, and I have no reason to exaggerate one way or the other. If you have more sources (thanks for sourcing) that state otherwise, I’m always interested to learn more. I’m fine giving credit to different groups and icons being involved, and we could just leave it at that. I’m just not a huge fan of erasing history because it’s uncomfortable. This is an excerpt from an article on mother jones about Keith Ellison’s past with Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam in the nineties: Ellison’s aspirations as a community leader led him into an alliance with the Nation of Islam. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/02/keith-ellison-democratic-national-committee-chair/ If reclamation was the idea animating Ellison as he entered his 30s, Farrakhan was black America’s leading evangelist for it, commanding huge crowds for speeches that could last hours. In 1995, Ellison and a small group of pastors and activists he’d worked with on policing issues (including the leader of the local NOI chapter) organized buses to take black men of all religions from the Midwest to attend Farrakhan’s Million Man March. In his book, Ellison describes the event, held in October 1995, as a turning point in his flirtation with Farrakhan. After filling those buses and attending the march, he was struck by the smallness of Farrakhan’s message compared with the moment. The speech was rich in masonic conspiracies and quack numerology about the number 19. What was the point of organizing if it built up to nothing? Ellison says he was reminded of an old saying of his father’s, which is attributed to former House Speaker Sam Rayburn: “Any jackass can kick down a barn, but it takes a carpenter to build one.” Ellison has said that he was never a member of the Nation of Islam and that his working relationship with the organization’s Twin Cities study group (the national organization’s term for its chapters) lasted just 18 months. He has said that he was “an angry young black man” who thought he might have found an ally in the cause of economic and political empowerment, and that he overlooked Farrakhan’s most incendiary statements because “when you’re African American, there’s literally no leader who is not beat up by the press.” In his book, Ellison outlines deep theological differences between the group and his mainstream Muslim faith.
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