Comments by "Orionishi" (@orionishi6737) on "Ivermectin trial, Oxford University" video.

Its because there isn't much study on ivermectin as an antiviral. Its been mostly used as an antiparasitic. mRNA vaccines have been studied and developed for 30 YEARS. First human trial was a decade ago. It only seems that way to you because you haven't been reading anything about them until this last couple years. Doesn't mean nobody was talking about them.
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@bazalinco Not as rushed as you people think. You believe it was "rushed" because you don't realize how much faster mRNA vaccines can be produced. It doesn't take the years that it did with regular vaccines. That's why we were even using them, not to mention that they were already poised to become the main vaccine of use in the next decade. They are mass produced easier and faster. Font require incubation periods in chicken eggs, dont use cells derived from foetal stem cell lines...you know, all the other BS reasons y'all didn't like the old vaccines. If they can be made faster, they can be tested faster, and people can use them sooner. They still made it through the main clinical trials that regular vaccines go through before giving them to people. They just haven't finished phase 4 trials, longterm. It was a bit of a tossup. Wait years for a vaccine, or use this new tech that we have been STUDYING FOR 3 DECADES AND PLAN TO USE IN THE NEAR FUTURE ANYWAYS. Not really that hard of a decision.
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@nooa69 This whole comment is false. They took nearly a year to develop the COVID-19 vaccines. They went through all initial trial phases befor we got them except the longterm trial which even on typical vaccines was done over time after their release. And the mice...they weren't killed by the vaccines. They were just euthanized after the study, which always happens on all of those types of studies. Do you people actually read? Like if you had actually read about it and not just taken whatever BS you see in a youtube video you might actually know that. This makes me think of the time some lady linked me to a website that she was convinced said that they put a chip in the vaccine. The word microchip was used once in reference to an ID card in a paragraph at the top of the page. Two paragraphs down it talked about the vaccination. But because she saw the words microchip and vaccine on the same.page she was convinced. Read critically, quit choosing to be ignorant.
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@thepuddlejumper500 Pfizer did not stop trials. The vaccines all made it through phase 3 trials, phase 3 happened shortly after release to the public. Phase 4 is longterm and still going on. Even regular oldschool vaccines were given to people before phase 4 trials.
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@prettylady995 🙄 omg yes, they are continuing studies...it is the first time they have been used globally after all. The vaccines have all been through the typical trials now so you are wrong about that. Even the older vaccines were given to us before longterm trials were finished. We were given the Covid vaccines right before they finished phase 3 trials, and ot was like a couple months later that phase 3 was completed. Quit choosing to be ignorant. These were going to become the main vaccines over the next decade no matter what. They dont need stem cell lines from foetuses, they don't need to incubate in a chicken egg. This all speeds up the process of development and production. Which in turn means trials can start, and finish, earlier. And thus, they can be distributed sooner than typical.
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@thepuddlejumper500 No I confirmed they are just as completed as all the other vaccine trials before it. They know possible risks. It is not new technology that just popped up out of the blue. Quit choosing to be ignorant. Doctora are using ivermectin when applicable. The oxford study showed that ot was showing benefits when used very early. Quit cherry picking information to suit your bias. India has toms of studies showing that it was not very effective broadterm and they were using tons of ivermectin. Again, quit choosing to be ignorant. Also, if you are talking about mulnupiravir, it has gone through the trial studies.....and if it isn't thay drug.... I'll wager that a quick google search will prove you wrong about thinking it's not beem through the same trial phases.
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@ukmaxi No! Not logic!!!! It's a nefarious plan against us all!!!!
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@Luixxxd1 science will never fall. Hubris....pride...? In being able to take new information and become more knowledgable..? Science doesn't deny facts because they don't fit with preconceived notions. It finds out why they don't fit. Then evolves past it's ignorance instead of clinging to it. Yes that takes time because science likes things to be verified before calling it a theory. But I'm sure you think a theory and hypothesis are the same thing.
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@boeingdriver29 LMAO, cherry picked info that isn't even correct. mRNA vaccines have over 30 years of research and development. First human trial was a decade ago. The covid vaccine made it through clinical trials before it was given to people...that's why we didn't have it for the first year... because they still did those trials. And another reason they have even been working on mRNA vaccines is that they DON'T take as long to develop and mass produce and are easier to store. They also don't have dead virus cultures or foetal stem cell lines. Think you people would be glad about that. Also, you were exaggerating on the time frame by a lot. Its 10-15. Not 30 years. Most of that time is due to isolating genes and incubation periods in chicken eggs. Maybe if you educated yourself instead of fear mongering you would realize why they didnt take as long to produce and that the world has been gearing towards using mRNA vaccines for everything within the next decade, because they have over 30 years of research on them, and will get rid of the issues people have with the old vaccines. Literally all of these side effects are also long term side effects of COVID-19.
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@clicktresni6298 mhmm sure you did🤦‍♂️
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@HondoTrailside No, it's to test it's efficacy as an antiviral. It's labeled an anti parasitic. But sure, fear monger some more.
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@originalkk882 No, we have out control group. They are hooked up to ventilators in hospitals saying they don't have covid.
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@PauloLima-sp9bt yeah, they all keep glossing over that fact. Even doctors who support its use right now say ot doesn't seem to have any effect after the early stages and can even make the patient more susceptible to the covid symptoms after the fact.
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@biomechanique6874 No, it's QUITE CLEAR that YOU don't know what you're talking about. You are just parroting stuff from 30 year old research that has made leaps and bounds since then.
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@nooa69 And it's actually 30 + years. Y'all quote Dr. Malone all the time...his research is from 1987, and he wasn't the first researcher, or the last. So yeah, the research is that old.... don't know why you think that's nonsense...unless you are willfully choosing to be ignorant.
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@CCAnne Yeah, after those medicines had studies done showing the effects! They didnt just start giving it out willy nilly...sure it might do something! Oh it did! Great 👍 That's called malpractice.
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@matthewvanrensburg3824 oh the irony...
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@cjs2020th Because it hadn't finished all the trials yet... doesn't mean it hadn't gone through the first 3 trial phases when we got it. Phase 4 is longer term and we would have had to wait even longer. Phase 4 is done and its FDA approved now. That's not nefarious unless you are ignorant.
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@Adrian-yi8fl or when people are filling hospitals to the brim and thousands of people are dieing from a novel contagion that popped up out of nowhere...maybe.
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@chrissimpson1098 lmao, low risk...maybe in very small doses that probably wouldn't have any effect. Whole other countries were widely using ivermectin at the beginning and stopped using it. It has been shown to be beneficial in early stages. Past that, it's not helping and is probably making it harder for your body to fight back.
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@prettylady995 this coming from the people doing the fear mongering 🙄
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@prettylady995 That isn't true. They do not get money for covid deaths the way you think they do. Cherry picked info out of context and not even close to correct. Just showing your ignorance.
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@thepuddlejumper500 Paxlovid? Also gone through the trials!
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@thepuddlejumper500 LMAO, I'm not wrong. I literally just looked it up...sounds like you don't even actually know which drug you are talking about.
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@thepuddlejumper500 Ok but you are acting like it hasn't gone through any clinical trials. While it isn't completely finished it has shown more effectiveness against the coronavirus then ivermectin has. And once again, ivermectin is being used at times even now. Even if you want to believe its being suppressed, it's not. Either way, you can site your single study but it doesn't change the fact that many other studies have been done, and not by the American government that you don't trust on this. Those other studies have more consistently shown that it is not the COVID-19 cure you want to believe it is. Furthermore, there have been studies testing it against the newer variants and it was even less effective. Quit choosing to be ignorant.
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