Comments by "Chompy the Beast" (@chompythebeast) on "Socialism is just better, scientifically" video.

@Gigachad-mc5qz Central planning doesn't need to and indeed shouldn't mean "planning by the few". Central planning should be informed of the totality of the system it seeks to plan, which means powerful computers and centralized hubs, yes, but it also means input from every node within the system, from small to large. Central planning should ultimately be more aware of the needs of the many than the Free Market, which enslaves workers by its inherent virtue as if by "accident"
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Murder. Socialist countries are toppled by powerful, murderous empires. And it didn't "fail". Did Rome "fail" after more than a thousand years just because it eventually fell? America, too, will fall one day: Will it "fail" on that day?
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"Socialist shithole" as yes, very astute and scientific and not at all right-wing bs of you
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Comrade Stalin and the Comically Large Spoon Why do you think they called him the Man of Steel? That spoon was so comically large it was used like a Mirror of Archimedes to spontaneously combust Panzers from miles away
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Child on YouTube moment lol
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@breeie9900 My friend, it is irrelevant to the conversation how many Native Americans were killed before the United States got involved. The point is, from 1776, Native populations in North America were reduced in number by a scale that more than qualifies for genocide. And how is America of the past "not America of today", but China of the past is the China of today? Even though America has not reversed its policies of Native oppression, but the Communists have absolutely reversed all disastrous policies that led to famine in a pre-industrial China? At what number of years have you set the goal posts such that America gets the pass but China doesn't, even though America's crimes were far greater and were deliberately genocidal in nature, while the famines that befell the peasant population of China were a tragedy that even the Chinese Communists themselves had never intended in their ultimately successful Great Leap Forward? "Learn economic principle please, at least Keynesian or something. Just handing stuff out is not good idea..." Is this perhaps a joke? You think that is what Socialism and Communism is, "just handing stuff out", and you would suggest that I need to brush up on theory? It seems clear that I won't be able to crack this tendency of yours to infinitely apologize or excuse America atrocities while granting its political rivals none of the same treatment―nor indeed do I care to suffer your casual insults to my intelligence any longer. Frankly, it is obvious you are not even trying to see these matters from any perspective other than the one that demands you buck against anything that defies the American Empire's well-defined propaganda. That being the case, we aren't even really having a discussion. I'd happily remind you that the Communist Manifesto is only about 30 pages and is freely available online, and I wish you a good weekend and upcoming week
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@breeie9900 Mao never murdered tens of millions. Many people died of famine, and that's terrible, but counting starvation deaths in the Chinese column but refusing to do so for America's global empire is patently and laughably unfair. America reduced the population of an entire continent to less than 10% of its numbers before their arrival. Wars started by or engaged in by America have indeed seen tens of millions killed. The number of civilians alone killed in Cambodia, Laos, and Vietnam is over two million, and that is just one conflict. Beyond the obvious instruments of war, global capital tolerates the deaths of countless people every single day around the world due to hunger, and we are fed lies about overpopulation rather than massive wealth hoarding. Hell, even in the heart of empire, some 14% of all US citizens go to bed hungry every single night, despite almost 50% of all food brought to market being thrown out and wasted in the United States. At the end of the day, Body Counts like these are terrible ways to measure the worth or the merit of a system or a state. But if we do want to go down that road, the path of capitalist greed will take home the honors, will be more drenched in blood and hair and fingernails and gore: Even United Nations figures can bear any and all of this out. Simply and respectfully, you have been deliberately misled to think of communists as bloodthirsty and capitalists as otherwise, and the numbers to prove that are freely accessible to you and all. But again, these numbers games are a childish way to reckon the suffering and the success of the human spirit
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@ExPwner An ancap calling people "commie clowns" as if his ideology wasn't just "fuck you I've got mine" lmao
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There is no arguing with someone who values squatting on their wealth over all the world. The counter to "Fuck you, I've got mine" is that yours is to be taken from you by whatever means you render necessary. A camel has more hope of passing through the eye of a needle than a wealthy man stroking his beard about why he should care about poor people has hope of being tolerated in a decent society by man or god alike
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@itcouldbelupus2842 This guy is literally of the opinion that starving and dying of exposure on the streets is "freedom" under capitalism. His definition of it not being coercive demands that the worst human suffering be tolerated in the name of his "freedom" to step over people. He's just another half-baked, would-be-parasite ancap
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@non1263 Cuba works. It is absurd to argue that a tiny island nation less than 100 miles from the most powerful empire in human history (which is nakedly hostile and has attempted to overthrow it hundreds of times) under embargo from more than half the world for more than half a century which has still managed to attain 100% literacy, free universal education, free universal healthcare, and which produces some of the best doctors on earth -- it is absurd to argue that such a country has "failed". That's just blatant capitalist propaganda of the kind that wants you to believe every socialist country looks like a Mordorian hellscape. Not even the USA has achieved these great things that Cuba has: Imagine how much more it could achieve with access to resources like the USA has, and without being under embargo? Cuba embarrasses the Tyranny of the Bourgeoisie in the United States, and that is why you are raised to hate it. The source for all these claims is literally the United Nations, by the way, hardly a pro-socialist or anti-capitalist organization. I'd link you to the easily-found webpage here, but YouTube would delete my comment if I did. Looking up "Cuba UN literacy" should get you there
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@non1263 Having universal healthcare and access to some of the best doctors on earth isn't a statistic, it's a lived experience. Are you saying the UN is lying with numbers to make Cuba seem better than the USA? That's obviously absurd. If there was any lying here, it would go the other way from these sources. Convenient as it may be for you, you cannot dismiss Cuba's successes with a hand-wave like "stats ain't everything", a claim which of course I never made to begin with
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@non1263 My friend, the same species that is capable of murder is capable of devoting a lifetime to raising and loving a child. There is nothing more endemic about greed to our species than generosity: The issue is not our nature, the issue is sheer survival. If there is enough for us all, that issue is solved. Arguing that socialism is a failure out of the box because the odd sociopath exists is tantamount to justifying capitalism because it indulges sociopathy. That isn't the mark of a "successful" society (as opposed to socialism's "failure") at all. I would counter your implications and suggest that it is you who has too much spirituality and not enough Dialectical Materialism clouding your judgement. And moreover, I question your incredibly grim diagnosis of the human race: Just because the wolves rule for now does not indicate that that is our "biological destiny" or anything like that. Indeed, that is the stuff of naked Eugenics and Fascism: That is what you are evincing. Socialism is not Utopian. If you were to read even the 30 pages of the Manifesto (available for free online), then you would know that Marx and Engels specifically rejected Utopian ideologies. Socialism is more congruent with the human animal than Capitalism could ever pretend to be, though even still, that is not the foundation of its claim to legitimacy (nor indeed is it Capitalism's claim as you insinuate it is, for that matter). To argue that somehow cruelty within the human spirit demands society-wide justification and supplication is to advocate for a ruthlessly violent master class of the few to dominate all the well-meaning people of the world. Only the "spiritually" feal, those broken to bending their knee to abstract concepts without any physical evidence by nature, would ever cleave to such a false and frankly repulsive view of the human animal
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@sirsteam6455 Corporations are private, what? A Corporate-controlled "Free Market" is literally the only kind of Free Market that can exist in today's global economy, and corporations are not "public", even if they're "publicly traded". They're certainly not public in the same way that nationalized or worker-owned business are, as under socialism. But it's a fairy tale to imagine that unfettered capitalism wouldn't result in a trajectory almost identical to the one we are currently on: Capitalism is literally about amassing the most into the fewest hands, that is the end-game no matter how it is applied
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@99EKjohn Cuba has virtually 100% literacy, free universal education, and free universal healthcare, all things which the USA lacks, but you think Cuba is lagging behind the USA because they don't have as many consumer products on their shelves? With all due respect, this is what capitalism does to the brain, my friend: Life itself becomes second to consumerism
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@breeie9900 The USA and its presidents have killed millions more, but I imagine you're cool with that because it was the right people doing the killing and the right people doing the dying, right?
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Literally the opposite of the truth this very scientific study finds, but sure, repeat your religiously-help proaganda lol
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Idiots be like "Rome fell so it failed, America will never fall tho lol"
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@ruffuzx4058 Shows what you know about history with that moralizing nonsense, Rome lasted far longer than 500 years. And the Soviet Union and Red China uplifted billions of people in mere decades, having no less impact on the course of "fate" than any other great political force of history. You understand capitalism "failed" hundreds of times and for over a thousand years before America rolled around, right? Capitalism has lain the groundwork for its own replacement by virtue of its very success: This isn't about "fate", it's about material conditions and their inevitable consequences
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@ThiagoPagogna If you have a fetish for being a wage slave keep it to yourself, don't force it on other people. But see, you would force that on other people. It's that or starve in your world. You are not free unless you are wealthy enough not to work, in which case, you are a parasite and a slave-driver
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@McHobotheBobo Realpolitik is kinda a magic wand for justifying any bad geopolitical move. Anti-worker initiatives are anti-worker initiatives. China doesn't deserve a slap on the back for backing neoliberal military juntas
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@McHobotheBobo That may be fair, but I still don't see how that justifies dealing with and empowering the very capitalist regimes which violent suppress those cadres of communists. To use your metaphor, where is the humanity, the justification in doing business with a dictator who smothers infant popular movements in their very cribs? How indeed would that hasten revolution, or serve socialist ends?
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@libertyprime4535 Yes, Liberty Prime, Socialism is better at uplifting more people than capitalism, as the scientific study which is the very subject of this video points out. The study has been re-conducted by other scientists not associated with the original group, and the same conclusions were found. That is the scientific method, and it trounces capitalist propaganda
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