Comments by "Common Sense Craziness" (@commonsensecraziness7595) on "Adam Ragusea" channel.

@jaxonsevero1045 The countries where they eat this stuff have long histories of food insecurity. That's the part they always leave out. It's not some quaint delicacy like you've been told.
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@jaxonsevero1045 Lots of paid shills in the comments section that are suddenly "science" experts in chitin.
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@lobachevscki Do these sources also say Chitin is perfectly safe to consume?
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@lobachevscki [but there is pleny of specialized literature that indicates that is very safe to consume.] Oh, I'm familiar. Started around 2014. Before that, it said the opposite.
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@lobachevscki And all the blogs attempting to popularize bugs as an alternative food source that spring up all around the same time? I'm sure those are totally science based too. Please tell me how science is the justification for this hard push to replace the food we're already eating with bugs. I'm sure you can make a case, but I also know it's pure BS.
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@entiretotal7207 [idk man, seems like the definition of a quaint delicacy.] It may be now, when they're not starving. But the historical roots are steeped in famines, as you acknowledged. The people saying eating bugs are normal are ignoring that history intentionally because their goal is to normalize it. Even people that DO eat bugs, rarely eat a steady diet of it and nothing else. But replacing your current diet with a steady amount of chitin is exactly what they're advocating for.
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@user-wb8iu1hl6i Are you another account that keeps spamming that or do you really not know? They're not the same. Animals that eat things like bugs have bacteria or protozoa that can break down the chitin, Humans can't process out the chitin. That's why certain mushrooms HAVE to be cooked before eating them. And the kind of insect chitin we're talking about cannot get the same results by cooking it. Some mushrooms also have agaratine, again, it can be processed out through heat. There isn't agaratine in insects last time I checked unless you know something I don't. Either way, they're not the same and the people that say they are are clearly lying. Do you think all mushrooms are the same? Do you eat the ones you see growing on trees? It's obvious they're trying to normalize eating bugs by saying they're the same, but some people think we shouldn't eat mushrooms either.
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@user-wb8iu1hl6i [And no nutritionist says we shouldn’t be eating mushrooms.] They same nutritionists that say we need more sugar in our diet? [There’s no such thing as mushroom chitin and insect chitin. Chitin is chitin.] And simple carbohydrates are sugar, and sugar is sugar. Totally the same.
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@NevisYsbryd Thanks. :) I actually quote directly from the science, but since it's CensorTube, all those posts get removed.
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@lobachevscki [I dont know why my previous answer with the literature references dissapeared but you are talking nonesense] Not talking nonsense. Literally quoting from scientific studies you claim don't exist, and that CensorTube removes. Do you think most people cook their food at 716 Fahrenheit?
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@PredictableEnigma [But many people in many parts of the world eat bugs and snakes regularly] Yes, and those places have a long history of food insecurity. It's not a quaint delicacy like you've been told.
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@paulhagen1002 Clearly not, but that's what the liars are saying.
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@mjp121 [did you even watch the video?] Obviously I did or I couldn't talk about specific parts of it. [MOST cuisine is based in food insecurity] You clearly don't even understand the concept. Most cuisine is not based on not having food, or are you telling me that Irish cuisine is defined by the potato famine? If so, please explain why it's potatoes and not any other kind of food that they also didn't have. [ Are YOU claiming to be an expert in chitin?] No, but I know enough to know when I'm being lied to. Do you? At the end of the day, if you're eager to eat bugs, I'm not going to stop you. But stop listening to liars that tell you they're the same as mushrooms, or shrimp or lobsters, because they're clearly not.
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I don't fear them at all - I love eating certain seafood. But I don't love the idea of eating Chitin and getting cancer, so that's a no on the bugs. Can't believe Adam is shilling this propaganda.
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@user-wb8iu1hl6i Dissolution of mechanically milled chitin in high temperature water "Chitin is high in crystallinity in its natural form and does not dissolve into high temperature water (HTW), which often leads to decomposition reactions such as hydrolysis, deacetylation and dehydration when hydrothermally processed. In this work, we investigated the reactions of mechanically milled chitin in HTW. Mechanical milling pretreatment combined with HTW treatment improved the liquefaction of chitin giving a maximum water soluble fraction of 80%, where the untreated chitin was 55%. The reaction mechanism of the milled and raw chitin in HTW was shown to be different. For milled chitin, the dissolution of chitin occurred during the heating period to supercritical water conditions (400°C) at short reaction times (1 min). Extended reaction time (10 min) led to decomposition products and aromatic char formation. For raw chitin, the dissolution of chitin in HTW did not occur, due to its high crystallinity, so that liquefaction proceeded via decomposition reactions." It's all the same!
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@lobachevscki [ Sugar is not a problem, multiple studies strongly suggest there wasnt a correlation between sugar (or the rise of sweeteners) an obesity, the real culprit would be an increase on caloric intake that is very real but caloric intake comes from multiple sources.] Wow, talk about spreading misinformation. There's a direct relationship between sugar and the impact on insulin.
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@lobachevscki [You are talking nonesense, everything you have said is easily debunkable. You are just pure dogma at this point.] Accuse your opponent of that which you are doing. I get it. If you're so right and I'm so wrong, how come it's my posts that are being removed by CensorTube? Yeah, you're an obvious liar.
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Wow, you've fallen for the BS. When you're eating the flesh of shrimp or lobster, you're not eating Chitin, but you are when you eat bugs. Chitin leads to respiratory issues and eventually cancer as your body can't process it, and you can't process it out in any cooking method you can use. Stop advocating for people to eat poison. Chitin is not remotely the same as cellulose.
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@lunkel8108 [That sounds very interesting, especially considering that mushrooms contain pretty large amounts of chitin, as he mentioned.] This is how I know you're a liar. Go back and watch his video, he didn't actually say that. He said Chitin is similar to cellulose, which isn't true. [ Are people getting cancer from eating a lot of mushrooms?] Your comment shows ignorance. They're not the same, so no. ["Respiratory issues and eventually cancer" sounds to me like it's about breathing in chitin powder or something like that. Pretty much any fine powder will do that to you. What is the medical literature backing that claim?] There is tons of scientific literature on the topic and has been well known for some time among researchers. Regular people wouldn't have been alerted to it as a concern because they don't have a diet that includes insects. Around 2014 or so the science magically changed at the same time they started promoting it as a food. Go dig up the people involved in that science and, assuming you know what you're talking about, you'll realize these guys are all guns for hire - probably what you are. [Also people willingly eat things that probably increase their cancer risk (like red meat) all the time. How big is the effect?] It's not remotely the same. It's like willingly giving yourself leukemia. The body can't process Chitin, simple as that.
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@lunkel8108 [Because I can't find papers supporting your claim.] Because they were produced before 2014, when they started suppressing it. Hey, if you want to eat them, go ahead. I will never eat them. FYI, you should do a bit more looking into the differences between the kind of chitin in insects and mushrooms because they're not the same.
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@lunkel8108 [It would have been nice if you had cited the source for this quote] Would love to, except CensorTube suppresses that kind of thing, so even if I shared it, it would get deleted. Good luck.
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@lunkel8108 [Buddy. If you're gonna quote something, maybe make sure it actually has anything to do with what we're talking about.] Oh? What were we talking about exactly? How you want to eat bugs and think everyone else should too? Please spare me. I'm tired of your BS.
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@lunkel8108 How many accounts do you have? Is that 3 now?
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Stick to your instincts because Chitin is dangerous to eat and not remotely the same as cellulose. I wonder how much Adam got paid to shill this propaganda or if he's really bought into it.
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We eat the flesh of Lobsters and Shrimp not their shells. With insects its virtually unavoidable. The problem is Chitin is actually dangerous to eat. A little nugget Adam left out in his big propaganda push.
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Well either someone paid him to say this stuff or he's all in on the BS. Chitin is dangerous to consume and isn't remotely like cellulose.
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It's not fear, it's instinct people should listen to. Chitin is dangerous to eat. You're not eating Chitin when you eat the flesh of Shrimp or Lobster, but you are when you eat bugs.
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@Kruegernator123 [I pinned your comment too. ] The comments that got removed by CensorTube?
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@senboy9002 ["everyone who disagrees with me is being paid"] Nice strawman you got there. Let me guess, now you're going to make a simple black and white argument with little room for nuance. [But you wouldn't assume people who agree with you are paid by the meat industry (which has much more money). Why is that?] Yep. The people in the meat industry don't have the kind of money that is actually behind this. The money is much bigger - try paying attention. Who is buying up all the farmland? Is it the meat industry? ["the liars are saying chitin is healthy" Didn't the video say that it's undigestible, mushrooms also have it, and that it's similar to something plants have? Not actively hurting you doesn't mean people are calling it "healthy"] They're trying to normalize it and they're doing that in a number of ways, which you clearly are not picking up on or or simple failing to grasp. Bugs are not like lobsters. The chitin in mushrooms is not the same as they are in bugs. The reality that every time I post a fact or proof it gets deleted should be all the information you need to, at the very least, not swallow the narrative whole.
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@senboy9002 ["the liars are saying chitin is healthy" Didn't the video say that it's undigestible, mushrooms also have it, and that it's similar to something plants have?] Yes, and they said you could cook the chitin like mushrooms so it would be edible. That would mean cooking your food at 716 Fahrenheit. No one cooks their food at that temperature, so that's a lie. But stupid people will definitely buy into that.
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@bugjams [No, you don't. You dislike the video's argument, as well as anyone who disagrees with you, so you assume malice/foul play as a coping mechanism to avoid having a real discussion.] The video's arguments are lies. What I don't like is the censortube algorithm that prevents me from proving that by removing that proof. More anti-science masking as science.
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@havenp Dude, how many accounts do you have?
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 @CARNIVINE_ENJOYER59 Bill Gates and other alternative food investors also approve.
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@user-wb8iu1hl6i Also, yes, the science has magically changed on chitin and the FDA has approved it as a food additive. And if you trust the FDA, I encourage you to research on how they approved OxyContin that led to the opioid epidemic because they gave that product the label that said it was a non-addictive opioid. Do you remember how that one turned out?
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@user-wb8iu1hl6i In situ microscopic observation of chitin and fungal cells with chitinous cell walls in hydrothermal conditions "We found that chitin was significantly more resistant to hydrothermal degradation than cellulose, and did not observe any noticeable change up to ~380 °C." Cause everyone does their cooking at 716 Fahrenheit, right?
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@lunkel8108 [We were talking about the medical misinformation you were spreading. Thank you for embarassing yourself, showing everybody that it's baseless and you don't know what you're talking about.] Yeah, yeah, we already went through this with covid. You just happen to be a scientific expert, huh? There's money behind this shift to fund alternative food sources, and you're just another paid liar. So is Adam.
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[We were talking about the medical misinformation you were spreading. Thank you for embarassing yourself, showing everybody that it's baseless and you don't know what you're talking about.] Yeah, yeah, we already went through this with covid. You just happen to be a scientific expert, huh? There's money behind this shift to fund alternative food sources, and you're just another paid liar. So is Adam.
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