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Comments by "Dave Powell" (@davepowell7168) on "The True Story of 9/11 | WHILE THE REST OF US DIE" video.

@dirkdiggler8260 Having read your curt and dismissive responses to others in this thread l have a gauge. Arrogance is a front for insecurity. People with sound education have no need to be disrespectful
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@dirkdiggler8260 OK. I'm assuming that the twin towers were built to the structural engineers (John Skilliing) plans and that the planes were allegedly Boeing 767 's with standard engines and French landing gear? If that is the case...
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@dirkdiggler8260 Velocity is of great importance, we are not considering a missile with shaped charge, yet at the moment of impact the 'aeroplane' supposedly manufactured of CREP framed aluminum fuselage etc penetrates a steel frame comparable with tank armor fortified with floors of rebarred concrete 5" thick as blueprints of section elevations demonstrate How fast did you state your estimate of speed was?
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@dirkdiggler8260 Have you done any steel fabrication or engineering? There was a conflict in Argentina where ballistics were exchanged and the some of the ships had interesting deformation upon return When l was studying a hammerhead dockside crane collapsed accross two frigates which was amusing Not just keyboards and screen observations. With 9.11 I'm telling you that no way could I sign it off to planestrikes WTC7 was not structurally affected, look at the plan of the WTC , surgical disintegration by means unknown. Wood may confabulate and have people looking the wrong way but much of the evidence she uses stands Blind faith in mainstream media has led to destructive behaviour to society
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@dirkdiggler8260 The 'aircraft' fires could not destroy those buildings. People who have not experienced anything more energetic than a road vehicle accident are unfamiliar with ballistics Your opinion is that of NIST , look harder
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@dirkdiggler8260 Fact number one is extremely relevant. You state that the Marriot Hotel (WTC 3) which was between the mid points of the towers nearer the river had to be 'taken down', therefore did not disintegrate as tower 7did which was 100yds further away ? Try thinking logically , gravitational collapses fall to make 'pyramids' or big piles of debris and would have crushed the hotel easily. Look at the ground plan of the WTC to see how the Twin towers were almost 'on top' of the Marriot.
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@dirkdiggler8260 Your text analysis is weak. I stated very clearly that l begin with studying evidence, pictures, video and contemporary eyewitness accounts before reading reports accepted by government All of your parroted statements are now getting tedious. The cut and paste comments and repetition are a giveaway. Be as rude as you can, lm not wasting further time
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@youtube_chaplain You create your own hell Christian Soldier, hell can be described as 'a place without God' . On your way
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@dirkdiggler8260 You claimed to have 'seen the footage' but have you really studied it WTC 911 videos a0247-26d122 r33- nist #0942 After the South tower disintegrated at 39:09 the adjacent side of the North tower emanates a neutrally buoyant thick powdercloud intermittently from below the explosion and damaged floors which gives a window on what is happening inside The video is 65 minutes long
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The official narrative is nonsense
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@timshea4279 Study physics, then engineering and then look at the evidence
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@timshea4279 lf you believe that a planestrike can level a building as seen on 9.11 you have not. Education is key
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@timshea4279 You obviously have no real world experience of structural engineering or catastrophic failures leading to collapse. Please take my advice, this will not be a long conversation
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@timshea4279 l would guess that the NIST story of vierendeel trusses pulling in the outer columns as the concrete rebarred floors sagged initiating collapse is your choice today
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@timshea4279 The video of the North tower (amongst many other anomalies with that idea) show the antenna descent first indicating failure of steel in both hat truss and all core columns
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@timshea4279 Who? Connection of floor trusses is not impossible
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@timshea4279 Was it not clear that I wasn't referencing. Unlike you apparently l form opinion from looking carefully at the forensic evidence. Suggest a blueprint of WTC towers showing dimensions of the cross beams between the core columns above the third mechanical floor
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@timshea4279 l take it that no such blueprints are available to you. Speaking of the vierendeels, do you want them strong enough to deform the outer columns, or weak enough to fail at your cherrypicked moment ?
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@timshea4279 The trusses were visibly pulling down from core collapse? Have you examined the welding in the construction of the prefabricated components of the outer columns. Look harder
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@timshea4279 Puerile attempts to insult have no weight in physics Perhaps you should reevaluate your position if you ever expect to be taken seriously. The trusses and seat plates were welded in situ externally as evident from construction standards and video evidence US standards of construction do not permit steel fixing to be like a game of Jenga with high-rise buildings where strength to weight is imperative Steel columns do not concertina, redundancy was included by design. I wish to educate you Timothy and have no wish to be disrespectful or adversarial ad hominem Yes, 5/8" bolts were used for installation of components prior to fixing by arc welding
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@timshea4279 A building of such height is designed for purpose, primarily wind resistance but also the possibility of a civilian aircraft impact. John Skilliing stated his position in '93 post basement explosion. You suspect that he was incompetent/deceptive and/or the US steelworkers didn't follow instructions to code during construction? This is not a game of football, thousands were disintegrated by unknown method and I find that your attitude is disrespectful
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@timshea4279 Does that stuff work with anyone Timothy? Have seen your replies before... You type the type.
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@timshea4279 l suspect that you have seen most of the information in your mind regarding steel, which is a fundament of this discussion on screen or maybe paper We are not in Hollyworld now The politics are also irrelevant, let's stay on material physics We have linear expansion and softening of trusses under given loads + aeroplane mass x speed etc Let's assume that the alleged aircraft guided itself into a building for arguments sake, floor 98, fuel tanks all vaporise and ignite, the coded office furnishings are coated in aviation gas and also ignite. The hot steel structure becomes so plastic that it folded down a floor.. This process would not be symmetrical because the planestrike was asymmetric Or we can discount damage from initial impact to even things out?
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@timshea4279 You wish to avoid the laws of physics, angular momentum ceased . You suspect that the healthy unheated building below the impact site just conveniently jumped out of the way? Please apply a hammer to a nail Get back to me ASAP
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@timshea4279 Dear Timothy, perhaps you try to insult people with rude comments, images of children, references to a ball game and quote a potential energy ratio repeatedly which is crudely calculated by someone else routinely Is this normal for you ? Without prejudice l feel that this is not productive
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Obviously an inside job. References available
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Description of physics applicable to building collapse incongruous with planestrike + fuel fed fires providing enough heat to initiate catastrophic failure of steel frame resulting in levelling of 3 towers
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There are some errors in point list. 2) Most but not all evidence was destroyed,3) Mrs Silverstein is claimed to have booked the appointment with the dermatologist, 6) Jane Stanley BBC World News report, 13) just to add that floor 23 of WTC7was reinforced as a command and control point for CIA, 14) the alarm later functioned until collapse and the 2 storey Edison electrical substation which WTC7 was built on failed 4.20 according to the fire department , 15) Larry Silversteinaa did not make a slip..
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@joshd3192 You are suggesting that the US government just tied up all of its dogs and looked the other way for years and that building code in the US is optional? Look harder.. My position is that the WTC buildings were not destroyed by hand luggage carried on internal flights
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@joshd3192 You think that you will make 'shill team 6' with that reply? Try harder with less cut'n paste
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@joshd3192 'proof' can be a subjective term ,however l don't believe that the Islamic terrorist conspiracy theory if accurate would give the 19 guys life after death to finish the show. You bring your intelligence into question by suggesting so
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@joshd3192 The video evidence is proof
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@joshd3192 3 towers collapsed symmetrically on video, perhaps you haven't noticed
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@joshd3192 A burden of proof is required is required by the prosecution to press the case beyond reasonable doubt
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@joshd3192 The 9.11 sacrifice was in breach of the declaration of human rights 1947,crimes against peace and humanity. Treason is a heinous crime and why choose to subvert justice?
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@joshd3192 A study of building collapse or demolition shows how the process occurs, comparing previous examples with the 9.11 event is not difficult. An entire building of steel components and rebarred concrete do not disassociate because of compression when an area is heated enough to cause a failure.
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@joshd3192 The symmetry of collapses was impossible from asymmetric damage
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Just ignore M Fitz and Tim Shea, both shills. You can't reason with the unreasonable
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Propaganda
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@prandomable No
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@prandomable That's fine for you then, personally l'm not a 'yes man' so apply critical thought to information fed by mainstream media due to the history of propaganda later proved to be false
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@prandomable The available evidence does not support the 'Islamic terrorist conspiracy theory'
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@dirkdiggler8260 Physics
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@dirkdiggler8260 Your not qualified to discuss physics then. OK
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@dirkdiggler8260 The aircraft suggested is not designed for use as a ballistic missile and could only achieve the suggested speed if in a near vertical nosedive, thrust would be way beyond the engine at ground level Engine performance specifications are available Please share your estimate of impact speed ,l have read estimates between 400 and 570mph which would be plausible at a cruising altitude of 32K ft +
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@dirkdiggler8260 The landing gear and engine cores from both alleged aircraft were present in the debris pile? As you know major components carry a number
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@dirkdiggler8260 I agree with your airspeeds as corroborated by over 50 independent videos but showing descent not dive . Dimensions of steel obviously greater than you suggest for lower 'planestrike' The 'craft' should have at least left the vertical stabiliser of empennage exterior to building and why no evidence of wake vortices?
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@prandomable You claim to have been in one of the towers and found it hollow, that would explain why structural failure was plausible following planestrike and subsequent fire etc
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@dirkdiggler8260 The airborne particles should have made turbulence easily visible. Moving forward however The exterior structure would have absorbed momentum, a plane cannot cut through steel 'like butter' . Firemen don't have aluminum axes. The 47 core columns were so substantial a factory in Japan was custom built for their production. The Twin towers were specifically designed to withstand a 707 planestrike flying heavy (max take-off weight) so remain standing after all outer members of one side were removed and still handle 100mph winds, a redundancy factor of 3-5× is not unusual in civil engineering structure but due to their height the risk of a plane collision was a very real consideration. John Skilling paraphrased
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@dirkdiggler8260 l cited the source of the 707 planestrike claim. The ax line was obviously jest The catastrophic failures leading to the collapse of the towers is inconsistent with official narrative, NIST FOIA video evidence shows inexplicable effects especially North tower. WTC7 and particularly WTC6 are difficult to ascertain what occurred. Do you wish to analyse evidence forensically? Unfortunately much was despoiled. The ambulance parked in the plaza apparently safer than stairwell B (survivors testimony)also defies belief
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@prandomable Towers 1 and 2 weighing 500k tons each, WTC7 weighed 220k tons which is closest to the number you mentioned so I guess that is a bit of confusion I am not interested in religious sites on YouTube but respect your rights to look up to any belief system that suits you, thanks anyway Nuclear bunkers are built very differently, WTC7 had one installed below the 2 story Edison electric substation it was built on in 1989 but that doesn't affect the structural damage above ground so l don't know why you think Nuclear bunkers are relevant. The large diesel tank on floor 40 of tower 7 which had a feed pipe to the subbasement didn't appear to explode if that was bothering you Insights appreciated
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@prandomable lf Nuclear bunkers are not relevant they cannot be offered in any form of proof. We can see a gas explosion on impact so having been used some is gone. Perhaps you visited the buildings and stepped from the elevator looking out because although 'open plan' the stairwells, pipe chases for bathrooms, elevator shafts etc were efficiently among the core columns so disguised.
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@prandomable How interesting to have seen those giant edifices, pinnacles of human achievement, the 2 pillars of freemasonry Boaz and Joaqim for the whole world to see, the beauty of capitalism. You are fortunate to have seen the scene of the crime, a conspiracy which sacrificed so many lives. Fortunately we now have security from hijackings hopefully Perhaps because I mentioned a toxic smoke you think l propose a reaction other than explosives? Thermonuclear explosion directed by collimator, fizzle? The current water features service the city a calming memorial, meeting place for friends and a reality check for some who can't believe another attack happened in the big apple. A more comfortable experience than when the US got caught with its pants down, all of its dogs tied up while looking the other way. I've heard of theories by Dmitry Khalezov and Heinz Pommer regarding nukes but they don't explain the explain the peculiar disintegration of parts of WTC6 or WTC4. Personally l suspect Khalezov is either nuts or spreading partial truths Respects from UK
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@prandomable Can you not read plain text? You have made an exceptionally comical response
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@prandomable lf you have learned 3 of the building weights in tons. Progress!
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@prandomable Physically impossible ,please apply critical thought. Could you suggest a link for the weight of WTC6 or if you know share this PUBLIC information?
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@dirkdiggler8260 Designer? Please study how large scale civil engineering projects happen. Movie sets have designers who need ideas put into practice by others
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@dirkdiggler8260 Have you seen NlST FOIA video of North tower for example? 'National lnstitute for Standards and Technology' have had to release stuff thru the 'Freedom Of lnformation Act' Have just tried to link you but censorship won Please request people, the text lasts minutes
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@dirkdiggler8260 As mysterious as floating babypowder might be the most puzzling evidence comes from one the firemen who survived stairwell B 'I looked up and saw a beam of sunlight' - Mickey Cross The guy should have been buried by approx 105 floors of concrete and rebar 200ftx200ftx5" etc
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@dirkdiggler8260 The answer to your questions are self evident. You flash imogee? Grow up You are able to digest evidence or you are not Reciting what supposed 'designers' state after catastrophic failures is irrelevant
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@dirkdiggler8260 As you have issues with English comprehension or haven't examined the forensic photography of the WTC destruction or subsequent debris field from ground level or aerially we would have real problems with the tonnages of material on site, in transit and alleged claims processed at Freshkills or 'sent to China' (?) The WTC debris fires for 99days after allegedly millions of gallons of water and fire retardant were expertly applied by the fire department . I imagine when you set your coffee down you aren't surprised if its warm the next day Enjoy your paradigm, mine is diametrically opposed I'm presuming NIST FOIA evidence is accurate
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Youtube is mainstream media and must be viewed with skepticism. Recent avatars or bots are interesting by what they are not capable of doing. I was hammering metal on an anvil in my early teens before gaining engineering qualifications (nuclear clearance if only to become a penpusher) by the 1980s in a search for a useful career. Please think for yourselves while listening to others and form an opinion by applying commonsense Society may need people who believe bullshit and those who produce it, personally I'm doubtful Try me
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@kevinsteel7875 Dystopian futures have been advertised for a century in fictional narrative Earlier man created dieties worse than the bot you suggest l might not be. Vengeful and paranoid of 'thought crimes' by the non righteous . Perhaps l'm just some intoxicated alien prankster who wishes to sell your second hand soul? Only a jest, stay healthy brother God is lifes love for itself, every culture has a word for this energy which permeates every cell of our bodies freely Deception cannot stand scrutiny
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@dirkdiggler8260 You mention deleted comments and respect of innocent civilian lives lost :- ' Dirk Diggler ' Try harder...
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@dirkdiggler8260 Why hide behind a false name, perhaps this is normal to the 21st century ?
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@dirkdiggler8260 l try to be honest, perhaps this is not important
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@dirkdiggler8260 I cited evidence of the North tower above which you refuse to consider, perhaps you have forgotten We disagree , why get involved in circular rhetoric?
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@dirkdiggler8260 Noo, Mickey Cross was not buried by debris. Remember the words of the Commissioner? Ken stated 1.2 M tons gross for WTC site removal including contents of bathtub slurry wall
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@dirkdiggler8260 Have just listened to her lecture. When a lunatic calls someone a lunatic 2 negatives collide and may create some relevance. Youtube have deleted your statement regarding the 'Judy Wood brigade' which illustrated your ignorance. Obviously free energy is nonsense. Everyone knows that research, development,materials,fabrication,installation,maintenance etc are not free so why would a materials scientist, if her credentials are genuine create a bullshit narrative?
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Anyone believing the Islamic terrorist conspiracy theory as pressed by Wikipedia is naive. Physics prevents this Another example of naivety is believing that lockdowns or vaccination against Covid 19 were in the interest of public health Maintenence of critical thought is wise
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@dirkdiggler8260 Christopher Hitchins was the liar who stated repeatedly before and after the invasion of lraq that Sadam Hussein had WMDs
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@dirkdiggler8260 Huge steel columns can be seen oxidising on camera
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@dirkdiggler8260 Your understanding of 'Physics community' is obviously subjective
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@dirkdiggler8260 Attempting to be patronising doesn't impress me. If you had a clue regarding structural engineering requirements you would not be repeating the ' towers were hollow tubes' nonsense
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@dirkdiggler8260 Ref: Debate - Hitchens v Hitchens, was invading lraq OK ?
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@dirkdiggler8260 Oxidation is perhaps the wrong word, chromium ion exchange may not be the process but l think it is but sped up so fast almost instantaneous oxide jacking affected all rebar
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@dirkdiggler8260 Yes, thanks for the link. Without having ever had eyes on opportunity lm depending on evidence by screen. During the 9/11 event and the detail of the samples in those pages was precise I am suggesting that this process was accelerated around the WTC, vehicles being thin skin developed odd holes, the ambulance parked outside of the North tower was covered in dust and not crushed so l would have liked samples from that to satisfy my curiosity. Over 1000 were affected allegedly, engine fires and material specific melting. I am trying not to be overly affected by other analysts but am mystified
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@dirkdiggler8260 Your first sentences demonstrates that you have not had the opportunity to examine the photographic forensic evidence yet, l repeat 'inconsistent with official narrative' Are you suggesting that the vehicles were all tampered with to confuse investigation, their condition and proximity would then be false indicators. We all know what allegedly happened to 'Special agent' Bennette...
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@dirkdiggler8260 As Moore won a Palm d'or award you obviously don't understand documentary films either. Originally made in 2004, perhaps dated. Try viewing it, you might learn something
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@dirkdiggler8260 Science: Underwriter Laboratory live tests? Kevin Ryan's statement NlST can't publish the facts for political reasons and if you are the shill you claim lying is your job The Marriat Hotel wasn't demolished as surgically or completely as the 81 columns of WTC7 were in spite of immediate proximity to the twin towers, look at a ground plan The evidence that exists does not support the naive 2 plane conspiracy theory . This is fundamental physics, not complicated
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@dirkdiggler8260 You think l need to do homework? Your mind is so used to believing what it hears or reads from a screen that if l asked you a simple question, for example 'what is the shape of an oil drum'? you would have to use Google and then think that it could be a plausible project to add a couple of floors, windows and maybe a little door to make a home for your whole family!
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@dirkdiggler8260 Fact number one: The Marriot Hotel was much closer to the twin towers than WTC7. Therefore in the proposed gravitational collapses of the towers the Marriot should have received a greater amount of debris falling down onto it. More debris which would have been just as incendiary. The Marriot was a 22 storey hotel clearly visible on ground plans of the WTC , designated as World Trade Centre 3
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@dirkdiggler8260 The 'open atrium 'was present but this was not affected prior to WTC7s exposive preparation. Reference 'Security officer ' Bennette interview. More curious is obfuscation ot temperatures, Nasa usually use 2000° Centegrade, Mayor Rudy used Fahrenheit, Commissioner Ken Holden speaking of molten metal flowing down the walls beneath WTC6 and Ney York firemen speaking repeatedly of molten steel running down the channels underground. Firemen having to memorise the flash points of most materials have to recognise risk assessment.
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'Dirk diggler' is so full of disinformation that the safety valve is bust
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@dirkdiggler8260 l gave the source and release number but guess it would be a challenge to scroll. The effects and other 'irregularities' are in many videos. I presumed NIST FOIA video evidence might be acceptable. I don't know if it's smoke or dust because l can't smell it , the horizontal flow,direction and timing are relevant pre collapse
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There is video evidence available NIST FOIA ( freedom of information act) that clearly deviates from official narrative. No government shill/office etc will attempt to explain. Or NIST releases false videos
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Shot down
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