Comments by "Frankie and Benjy Mouse" (@boterlettersukkel) on "JRE Clips"
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And we have an other WINNER!! The "but it is only a theory" argument.
You have to look up things BEFORE you post comments and not AFTER you have proven to be dumb.
Look up SCIENTIFIC THEORY . Einstein doesn't debunks Newton.
You've been told that "gravity is just a theory", a guess, a hunch, and not a fact, not proven. You've been misled. Keep reading, and in less than two minutes from now you'll know that you've been misinformed. We're not going to try and change your mind about gravity. We just want to point out that "it's just a theory" is not a valid argument* .
The Theory of Gravity is a theory, but guess what? When scientists use the word theory, it has a different meaning to normal everyday use.1 That's right, it all comes down to the multiple meanings of the word theory. If you said to a scientist that you didn't believe in gravity because it was "just a theory", they'd probably be a bit puzzled.
In everyday use, theory means a guess or a hunch, something that maybe needs proof. In science, a theory is not a guess, not a hunch. It's a well-substantiated, well-supported, well-documented explanation for our observations.2 It ties together all the facts about something, providing an explanation that fits all the observations and can be used to make predictions. In science, theory is the ultimate goal, the explanation. It's as close to proven as anything in science can be.
Some people think that in science, you have a theory, and once it's proven, it becomes a law. That's not how it works. In science, we collect facts, or observations, we use laws to describe them, and a theory to explain them. You don't promote a theory to a law by proving it. A theory never becomes a law.
This bears repeating. A theory never becomes a law. In fact, if there was a hierarchy of science, theories would be higher than laws. There is nothing higher, or better, than a theory. Laws describe things, theories explain them. An example will help you to understand this. There's a law of gravity, which is the description of gravity. It basically says that if you let go of something it'll fall. It doesn't say why. Then there's the theory of gravity, which is an attempt to explain why. Actually, Newton's Theory of Gravity did a pretty good job, but Einstein's Theory of Relativity does a better job of explaining it. These explanations are called theories, and will always be theories. They can't be changed into laws, because laws are different things. Laws describe, and theories explain.
Just because it's called a theory of gravity, doesn't mean that it's just a guess. It's been tested. All our observations are supported by it, as well as its predictions that we've tested. Also, gravity is real! You can observe it for yourself. Just because it's real doesn't mean that the explanation is a law. *The explanation, in scientific terms, is called a theory*.
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@seejunorig1554 Yes that makes sense.
Think about it. Your body is 70% water. Hydrogen and oxygen. That is around in the galaxy. A LOT!!
The rest is calcium, carbon, potasium, etc.. It is all there.
Just research what happens in a nove and super nova of a star.
Stars make those chemicals by nuclear fusion.
These is no rock in your body. Silicium is not needed.
you are made up from the first 20 elements on the periodic table. except the nobel gasses because the do not react with anything.
Do you know those first 20? I still know them after 40 years.
H,He,Li,B,Bo,C,N,O,F,Ne,Na,Mg,Al,SI,P,SCl,Ar,K,Ca And a bit of iron for your blood and some other trace elements.
Bam, Your body.
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Still looking for EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
All I have seen up till now is BS, fabricated "evidence" ( phuket word, Rob Skiba, P-brane, Taboo Conspiracies II and Once You Go Flat You Never Go Back!)
Pure lies (Spurskimo, Kyle Adams)
Denial, ( Bob Knodel, Jeran,)
Begging for Money (The Morgile) and a whole lot of silly arguments. ( Pratt, Brandon Toy)
Flawed experiments and experiment that prove the globe. ( Pratt, Ranty, Subirats)
Silly video's that prove nothing and a whole lot of strawmen. (Nathan Oakley, Nathan Thompson)
Where is the proof for a flat earth???
A map? A Model that has predictive capabilities???
Come on guy. You have to do better.
Why are you unable to provide EVIDENCE for the flat earth??
Globe bashing is not going to do it. It always end in an argument from incredulity.
If you can't do it YOU have attached yourself to a belief that you yourself can not provide EVIDENCE for..
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BTW...
And we have A WINNER!! Everybody take a shot!!!
By saying "it is just a theory" you removed yourself from any scientific discussion.
You've been told that "gravity is just a theory", a guess, a hunch, and not a fact, not proven. You've been misled. Keep reading, and in less than two minutes from now you'll know that you've been misinformed. We're not going to try and change your mind about gravity. We just want to point out that "it's just a theory" is not a valid argument* .
The Theory of Gravity is a theory, but guess what? When scientists use the word theory, it has a different meaning to normal everyday use.1 That's right, it all comes down to the multiple meanings of the word theory. If you said to a scientist that you didn't believe in gravity because it was "just a theory", they'd probably be a bit puzzled.
In everyday use, theory means a guess or a hunch, something that maybe needs proof. In science, a theory is not a guess, not a hunch. It's a well-substantiated, well-supported, well-documented explanation for our observations.2 It ties together all the facts about something, providing an explanation that fits all the observations and can be used to make predictions. In science, theory is the ultimate goal, the explanation. It's as close to proven as anything in science can be.
Some people think that in science, you have a theory, and once it's proven, it becomes a law. That's not how it works. In science, we collect facts, or observations, we use laws to describe them, and a theory to explain them. You don't promote a theory to a law by proving it. A theory never becomes a law.
This bears repeating. A theory never becomes a law. In fact, if there was a hierarchy of science, theories would be higher than laws. There is nothing higher, or better, than a theory. Laws describe things, theories explain them. An example will help you to understand this. There's a law of gravity, which is the description of gravity. It basically says that if you let go of something it'll fall. It doesn't say why. Then there's the theory of gravity, which is an attempt to explain why. Actually, Newton's Theory of Gravity did a pretty good job, but Einstein's Theory of Relativity does a better job of explaining it. These explanations are called theories, and will always be theories. They can't be changed into laws, because laws are different things. Laws describe, and theories explain.
Just because it's called a theory of gravity, doesn't mean that it's just a guess. It's been tested. All our observations are supported by it, as well as its predictions that we've tested. Also, gravity is real! You can observe it for yourself. Just because it's real doesn't mean that the explanation is a law. The explanation, in scientific terms, is called a theory .
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Still looking for EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
All I have seen up till now is BS, fabricated "evidence" ( phuket word, Rob Skiba, P-brane, Taboo Conspiracies II and Once You Go Flat You Never Go Back!)
Pure lies (Spurskimo, Kyle Adams, Sleeping Warrior)
Denial, ( Bob Knodel, Jeran,)
Begging for Money (The Morgile) and a whole lot of silly arguments. ( Pratt, Brandon Toy, Sleeping Warrior)
Flawed experiments and experiment that prove the globe. ( Pratt, Ranty, Subirats)
Silly video's that prove nothing and a whole lot of strawmen. (Nathan Oakley, Nathan Thompson)
Where is the proof for a flat earth???
A map? A Model that has predictive capabilities???
Come on guy. You have to do better.
Why are you unable to provide EVIDENCE for the flat earth??
Globe bashing is not going to do it. It always end in an argument from incredulity.
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Still looking for EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
All I have seen up till now is BS, fabricated "evidence" ( phuket word, Rob Skiba, P-brane, Taboo Conspiracies II and Once You Go Flat You Never Go Back!)
Pure lies (Spurskimo, Kyle Adams, Sleeping Warrior)
Denial, ( Bob Knodel, Jeran,)
Begging for Money (The Morgile) and a whole lot of silly arguments. ( Pratt, Brandon Toy, Sleeping Warrior)
Flawed experiments and experiment that prove the globe. ( Pratt, Ranty, Subirats)
Silly video's that prove nothing and a whole lot of strawmen. (Nathan Oakley, Nathan Thompson)
Where is the proof for a flat earth???
A map? A Model that has predictive capabilities???
Come on girl. You have to do better.
Why are you unable to provide EVIDENCE for the flat earth??
Globe bashing is not going to do it. It always end in an argument from incredulity.
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@Fuh-Qu All navigators know all the stars move all the time.
Lets start with polaris.
The northstar is not constant. It moves.
Observed, documented and tested.
2000 years ago polaris was Thuban
designation Alpha Draconis (α Draconis, abbreviated Alpha Dra, α Dra), is a star (or star system) in the constellation of Draco. A relatively inconspicuous star in the night sky of the Northern Hemisphere, it is historically significant as having been the north pole star from the 4th to 2nd millennium BC.
Precession and Nutation
The Earth's axis precesses: the motion of its rotation axis is similar to that of a top spinning with its axis tilted.
The precession is in response to torques principally by the Sun and Moon. The spinning Earth responds to these
torques in the manner of a gyroscope. The result is a slow westward movement of the equinoxes and solstices. This
westward motion of the equinoxes along the ecliptic is called precession of the equinoxes.
The precession has a period of about 25,800 years. There are also a series of short period motions of
the Earth's axis of rotation called nutation. The nutations are all quite small.
The largest nutation has an amplitude of 0.'2 and a period of 18.6 years. The next largest nutation has an amplitude of
just 0.'01 and a period of 0.5 years.
The sidereal hour angle is measured from the vernal equinox, and declination from the celestial equator, so the
coordinates of celestial bodies change because of precession. The total motion with respect to the ecliptic, called
general precession, is about 50."29 per year. It may be divided into two components with respect to the celestial
equator: precession in right ascension (about 46."12 per year) measured along the celestial equator, and precession
in declination (about 20."04 per year) measured perpendicular to the celestial equator. The annual change in the
coordinates of any given star, due to precession alone, depends upon its position on the celestial sphere.
Since precession changes the direction of Earth's pole, Polaris will not always be Earth's “Pole Star”. Currently,
the north celestial pole is moving closer to Polaris because of precession. It will pass at a distance of approximately 28'
about the year 2102. Afterward, the polar distance will increase, and eventually other stars, in their turn, will become
the Pole Star.
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@starseed3203 "Own research" Hm, Does a few years at sea observing my environment, using all the stuff on board count??
I mean, Naked eye observations, binoculair, radar, NavSat, GPS, RDF, Loran, Decca, Satcom,
Sextant observations and sight reduction calculations, Great circle calculations, etc.....
I have seen to much things that are all impossible on a flat earth.
Be smart and stop trying to sell B$ to a mariner.
You have no EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
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Still looking for EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
All I have seen up till now is BS, fabricated "evidence" ( phuket word, Rob Skiba, P-brane, Taboo Conspiracies II and Once You Go Flat You Never Go Back!)
Pure lies (Spurskimo, Kyle Adams)
Denial, ( Bob Knodel, Jeran,)
Begging for Money (The Morgile) and a whole lot of silly arguments. ( Pratt, Brandon Toy)
Flawed experiments and experiment that prove the globe. ( Pratt, Ranty, Subirats)
Silly video's that prove nothing and a whole lot of strawmen. (Nathan Oakley, Nathan Thompson)
Where is the proof for a flat earth???
A map? A Model that has predictive capabilities???
Come on guy. You have to do better.
Why are you unable to provide EVIDENCE for the flat earth??
Globe bashing is not going to do it. It always end in an argument from incredulity.
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And the liar is here again.
On many flights, they would give away leveling devices to all passengers for free, so that everyone would be able to observe the dip of the horizon and proves Earth is a sphere. And as a nice side effect, to quench our thirsts, too!
Such devices are called ‘bottled water’. Using these simple ‘instruments’ on a flight, we can demonstrate that Earth is a sphere.
By drinking half of the water in a bottle of water, we can use the bottle as a simple leveling device. Firmly close the bottle, hold the bottle horizontally, and aim for the horizon line, all while keeping our eyes level with the surface of water inside the bottle. If weather condition allows it, it is not hard to observe that the horizon is below the eye level.
The phenomenon is called the dip of the horizon, and can only occur with such magnitude if Earth is a sphere.
Flat-Earthers repeatedly assert that “horizon always rises to eye level, no matter how high we are from the surface.” Using these simple ‘instruments,’ it is trivial to prove them wrong.
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@antonioladd3873 OYG.. I told you to look things up BEFORE you answer.
You have now proven you are a fool.
You've been told that "gravity is just a theory", a guess, a hunch, and not a fact, not proven. You've been misled. Keep reading, and in less than two minutes from now you'll know that you've been misinformed. We're not going to try and change your mind about gravity. We just want to point out that "it's just a theory" *is not a valid argument.
*
The Theory of Gravity is a theory, but guess what? When scientists use the word theory, it has a different meaning to normal everyday use.1 That's right, it all comes down to the multiple meanings of the word theory. If you said to a scientist that you didn't believe in gravity because it was "just a theory", they'd probably be a bit puzzled.
In everyday use, theory means a guess or a hunch, something that maybe needs proof. In science, a theory is not a guess, not a hunch. It's a well-substantiated, well-supported, well-documented explanation for our observations.2 It ties together all the facts about something, providing an explanation that fits all the observations and can be used to make predictions. In science, theory is the ultimate goal, the explanation. It's as close to proven as anything in science can be.
Some people think that in science, you have a theory, and once it's proven, it becomes a law. That's not how it works. In science, we collect facts, or observations, we use laws to describe them, and a theory to explain them. You don't promote a theory to a law by proving it. A theory never becomes a law.
This bears repeating. A theory never becomes a law. In fact, if there was a hierarchy of science, theories would be higher than laws. There is nothing higher, or better, than a theory. Laws describe things, theories explain them. An example will help you to understand this. There's a law of gravity, which is the description of gravity. It basically says that if you let go of something it'll fall. It doesn't say why. Then there's the theory of gravity, which is an attempt to explain why. Actually, Newton's Theory of Gravity did a pretty good job, but Einstein's Theory of Relativity does a better job of explaining it. These explanations are called theories, and will always be theories. They can't be changed into laws, because laws are different things. Laws describe, and theories explain.
Just because it's called a theory of gravity, doesn't mean that it's just a guess. It's been tested. All our observations are supported by it, as well as its predictions that we've tested. Also, gravity is real! You can observe it for yourself. Just because it's real doesn't mean that the explanation is a law. The explanation, in scientific terms, is called a theory.
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Simple OBSERVATIOND tell os the earth is a oblate spheroid.
What do you have??
Still looking for EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
All I have seen up till now is BS, fabricated "evidence" ( phuket word, Rob Skiba, P-brane, Taboo Conspiracies II and Once You Go Flat You Never Go Back!)
Pure lies (Spurskimo, Kyle Adams, Sleeping Warrior)
Denial, ( Bob Knodel, Jeran,)
Begging for Money (The Morgile) and a whole lot of silly arguments. ( Pratt, Brandon Toy, Sleeping Warrior)
Flawed experiments and experiment that prove the globe. ( Pratt, Ranty, Subirats)
Silly video's that prove nothing and a whole lot of strawmen. (Nathan Oakley, Nathan Thompson)
Where is the proof for a flat earth???
A map? A Model that has predictive capabilities???
Come on guy. You have to do better.
Why are you unable to provide EVIDENCE for the flat earth??
Globe bashing is not going to do it. It always end in an argument from incredulity.
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@thepostofficeprince8819 On many flights, they would give away leveling devices to all passengers for free, so that everyone would be able to observe the dip of the horizon and proves Earth is a sphere. And as a nice side effect, to quench our thirsts, too!
Such devices are called ‘bottled water’. Using these simple ‘instruments’ on a flight, we can demonstrate that Earth is a sphere.
By drinking half of the water in a bottle of water, we can use the bottle as a simple leveling device. Firmly close the bottle, hold the bottle horizontally, and aim for the horizon line, all while keeping our eyes level with the surface of water inside the bottle. If weather condition allows it, it is not hard to observe that the horizon is below the eye level.
The phenomenon is called the dip of the horizon, and can only occur with such magnitude if Earth is a sphere.
Flat-Earthers repeatedly assert that “horizon always rises to eye level, no matter how high we are from the surface.” Using these simple ‘instruments,’ it is trivial to prove them wrong.
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Still looking for EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
All I have seen up till now is BS, fabricated "evidence" ( phuket word, Rob Skiba, P-brane, Taboo Conspiracies II and Once You Go Flat You Never Go Back!)
Pure lies (Spurskimo, Kyle Adams)
Denial, ( Bob Knodel, Jeran,)
Begging for Money (The Morgile) and a whole lot of silly arguments. ( Pratt, Brandon Toy)
Flawed experiments and experiment that prove the globe. ( Pratt, Ranty, Subirats)
Silly video's that prove nothing and a whole lot of strawmen. (Nathan Oakley, Nathan Thompson)
Where is the proof for a flat earth???
A map? A Model that has predictive capabilities???
Come on guy. You have to do better.
Why are you unable to provide EVIDENCE for the flat earth??
Globe bashing is not going to do it. It always end in an argument from incredulity.
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"so many points" Name them.
I bet they all stem from your own poor understanding of basic physics
And your bias.
There is no more land anywhere. You just fell for a hoax.
"Own research" Hm, Does a few years at sea observing my environment, using all the stuff on board count??
I mean, Naked eye observations, binoculair, radar, NavSat, GPS, RDF, Loran, Decca, Satcom,
Sextant observations and sight reduction calculations, Great circle calculations, etc.....
I have seen to much things that are all impossible on a flat earth.
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@johnnybanana8562 Sure you want to play the "do your own research"" card??
"Own research" Hm, Does a few years at sea observing my environment, using all the stuff on board count??
I mean, Naked eye observations, binoculair, radar, NavSat, GPS, RDF, Loran, Decca, Satcom,
Sextant observations and sight reduction calculations, Great circle calculations, etc.....
I have seen to much things that are all impossible on a flat earth.
What have you tested?
How is your knowledge of navigation?
Have you ever worked on the bridge of a ship as navigator?
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Looks like you fail to understand what a plain is.
Still looking for EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
All I have seen up till now is BS, fabricated "evidence" ( phuket word, Rob Skiba, P-brane, Taboo Conspiracies II and Once You Go Flat You Never Go Back!)
Pure lies (Spurskimo, Kyle Adams)
Denial, ( Bob Knodel, Jeran,)
Begging for Money (The Morgile) and a whole lot of silly arguments. ( Pratt, Brandon Toy)
Flawed experiments and experiment that prove the globe. ( Pratt, Ranty, Subirats)
Silly video's that prove nothing and a whole lot of strawmen. (Nathan Oakley, Nathan Thompson)
Where is the proof for a flat earth???
A map? A Model that has predictive capabilities???
Come on guy. You have to do better.
Why are you unable to provide EVIDENCE for the flat earth??
Globe bashing is not going to do it. It always end in an argument from incredulity.
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@time2see192 But you have no flat earth map that conforms to reality and that can be used for navigation all over the earth.
You also have no one model that explains all observations.
How can I be out of my league when you fail to present evidence for your claims?
What have you ever tested or measured?
I Have done my part. I travelled the globe and have done a lot of tests and observations.
I Does a few years at sea observing my environment, using all the stuff on board count??
I mean, Naked eye observations, binoculair, radar, NavSat, GPS, RDF, Loran, Decca, Satcom,
Sextant observations and sight reduction calculations, Great circle calculations, etc.....
Be smart and stop trying to sell B$ to a mariner.
I have seen to much things that are all impossible on a flat earth.
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@Kcseales And we have A WINNER!! Everybody take a shot!!!
By saying "it is just a theory" you removed yourself from any scientific discussion.
You've been told that "gravity is just a theory", a guess, a hunch, and not a fact, not proven. You've been misled. Keep reading, and in less than two minutes from now you'll know that you've been misinformed. We're not going to try and change your mind about gravity. We just want to point out that "it's just a theory" is not a valid argument* .
The Theory of Gravity is a theory, but guess what? When scientists use the word theory, it has a different meaning to normal everyday use.1 That's right, it all comes down to the multiple meanings of the word theory. If you said to a scientist that you didn't believe in gravity because it was "just a theory", they'd probably be a bit puzzled.
In everyday use, theory means a guess or a hunch, something that maybe needs proof. In science, a theory is not a guess, not a hunch. It's a well-substantiated, well-supported, well-documented explanation for our observations.2 It ties together all the facts about something, providing an explanation that fits all the observations and can be used to make predictions. In science, theory is the ultimate goal, the explanation. It's as close to proven as anything in science can be.
Some people think that in science, you have a theory, and once it's proven, it becomes a law. That's not how it works. In science, we collect facts, or observations, we use laws to describe them, and a theory to explain them. You don't promote a theory to a law by proving it. A theory never becomes a law.
This bears repeating. A theory never becomes a law. In fact, if there was a hierarchy of science, theories would be higher than laws. There is nothing higher, or better, than a theory. Laws describe things, theories explain them. An example will help you to understand this. There's a law of gravity, which is the description of gravity. It basically says that if you let go of something it'll fall. It doesn't say why. Then there's the theory of gravity, which is an attempt to explain why. Actually, Newton's Theory of Gravity did a pretty good job, but Einstein's Theory of Relativity does a better job of explaining it. These explanations are called theories, and will always be theories. They can't be changed into laws, because laws are different things. Laws describe, and theories explain.
Just because it's called a theory of gravity, doesn't mean that it's just a guess. It's been tested. All our observations are supported by it, as well as its predictions that we've tested. Also, gravity is real! You can observe it for yourself. Just because it's real doesn't mean that the explanation is a law. The explanation, in scientific terms, is called a theory .
When are you going t do research??
Watching flerf video's is no research.
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@raulcoto6594 Jesaja 17:13
De natiën zullen wel ruisen, gelijk grote wateren ruisen; doch Hij zal hem schelden, zo zal hij verre wegvlieden, ja, hij zal gejaagd worden, als het kaf der bergen van den wind, en gelijk een KLOOT van den wervelwind.
Jesaja 40:22
Hij is het, Die daar zit boven den KLOOT der aarde, en derzelver inwoners zijn als sprinkhanen; Hij is het, Die de hemelen uitspant als een dunnen doek, en breidt ze uit als een tent, om te bewonen;
KLOOT old dutch for ball.
The KJV is a terrible translation.
Nowhere does it say that the earth is flat.
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@lov4570 There is no flat earth model that conforms to reallity.
Still looking for EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
All I have seen up till now is BS, fabricated "evidence" ( phuket word, Rob Skiba, P-brane, Taboo Conspiracies II and Once You Go Flat You Never Go Back!)
Pure lies (Spurskimo, Kyle Adams)
Denial, ( Bob Knodel, Jeran,)
Begging for Money (The Morgile) and a whole lot of silly arguments. ( Pratt, Brandon Toy)
Flawed experiments and experiment that prove the globe. ( Pratt, Ranty, Subirats)
Silly video's that prove nothing and a whole lot of strawmen. (Nathan Oakley, Nathan Thompson)
Where is the proof for a flat earth???
A map? A Model that has predictive capabilities???
Come on guy. You have to do better.
Why are you unable to provide EVIDENCE for the flat earth??
Globe bashing is not going to do it. It always end in an argument from incredulity.
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@historyishis-story4250 Learning navigation, doing sextant observations, Observing ships, observing lighthouses, observing coastal city's, radar observations, RDF tests, NAVsat, GPS, Loran, Sunsets, star observations, etc..
On what have you wasted your time?
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So you have EVIDENCE for a flat earth???
Still looking for EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
All I have seen up till now is BS, fabricated "evidence" ( phuket word, Rob Skiba, P-brane, Taboo Conspiracies II and Once You Go Flat You Never Go Back!)
Pure lies (Spurskimo, Kyle Adams, Sleeping Warrior)
Denial, ( Bob Knodel, Jeran,)
Begging for Money (The Morgile) and a whole lot of silly arguments. ( Pratt, Brandon Toy, Sleeping Warrior)
Flawed experiments and experiment that prove the globe. ( Pratt, Ranty, Subirats)
Silly video's that prove nothing and a whole lot of strawmen. (Nathan Oakley, Nathan Thompson)
Where is the proof for a flat earth???
A map? A Model that has predictive capabilities???
Come on guy. You have to do better.
Why are you unable to provide EVIDENCE for the flat earth??
Globe bashing is not going to do it. It always end in an argument from incredulity.
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Still looking for EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
All I have seen up till now is BS, fabricated "evidence" ( phuket word, Rob Skiba, P-brane, Taboo Conspiracies II and Once You Go Flat You Never Go Back!)
Pure lies (Spurskimo, Kyle Adams, Sleeping Warrior)
Denial, ( Bob Knodel, Jeran,)
Begging for Money (The Morgile) and a whole lot of silly arguments. ( Pratt, Brandon Toy, Sleeping Warrior)
Flawed experiments and experiment that prove the globe. ( Pratt, Ranty, Subirats)
Silly video's that prove nothing and a whole lot of strawmen. (Nathan Oakley, Nathan Thompson)
Where is the proof for a flat earth???
A map? A Model that has predictive capabilities???
Come on guy. You have to do better.
Why are you unable to provide EVIDENCE for the flat earth??
Globe bashing is not going to do it. It always end in an argument from incredulity.
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And we have A WINNER!! Everybody take a shot!!!
By saying "it is just a theory" you removed yourself from any scientific discussion.
You've been told that "gravity is just a theory", a guess, a hunch, and not a fact, not proven. You've been misled. Keep reading, and in less than two minutes from now you'll know that you've been misinformed. We're not going to try and change your mind about gravity. We just want to point out that "it's just a theory" is not a valid argument* .
The Theory of Gravity is a theory, but guess what? When scientists use the word theory, it has a different meaning to normal everyday use.1 That's right, it all comes down to the multiple meanings of the word theory. If you said to a scientist that you didn't believe in gravity because it was "just a theory", they'd probably be a bit puzzled.
In everyday use, theory means a guess or a hunch, something that maybe needs proof. In science, a theory is not a guess, not a hunch. It's a well-substantiated, well-supported, well-documented explanation for our observations.2 It ties together all the facts about something, providing an explanation that fits all the observations and can be used to make predictions. In science, theory is the ultimate goal, the explanation. It's as close to proven as anything in science can be.
Some people think that in science, you have a theory, and once it's proven, it becomes a law. That's not how it works. In science, we collect facts, or observations, we use laws to describe them, and a theory to explain them. You don't promote a theory to a law by proving it. A theory never becomes a law.
This bears repeating. A theory never becomes a law. In fact, if there was a hierarchy of science, theories would be higher than laws. There is nothing higher, or better, than a theory. Laws describe things, theories explain them. An example will help you to understand this. There's a law of gravity, which is the description of gravity. It basically says that if you let go of something it'll fall. It doesn't say why. Then there's the theory of gravity, which is an attempt to explain why. Actually, Newton's Theory of Gravity did a pretty good job, but Einstein's Theory of Relativity does a better job of explaining it. These explanations are called theories, and will always be theories. They can't be changed into laws, because laws are different things. Laws describe, and theories explain.
Just because it's called a theory of gravity, doesn't mean that it's just a guess. It's been tested. All our observations are supported by it, as well as its predictions that we've tested. Also, gravity is real! You can observe it for yourself. Just because it's real doesn't mean that the explanation is a law. The explanation, in scientific terms, is called a theory .
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@chrisdean1318 You've been told that "evolution is just a theory", a guess, a hunch, and not a fact, not proven. You've been misled. Keep reading, and in less than two minutes from now you'll know that you've been misinformed. We're not going to try and change your mind about evolution. We just want to point out that "it's just a theory" is not a valid argument.
The Theory of Evolution is a theory, but guess what? When scientists use the word theory, it has a different meaning to normal everyday use.1 That's right, it all comes down to the multiple meanings of the word theory. If you said to a scientist that you didn't believe in evolution because it was "just a theory", they'd probably be a bit puzzled.
In everyday use, theory means a guess or a hunch, something that maybe needs proof. In science, a theory is not a guess, not a hunch. It's a well-substantiated, well-supported, well-documented explanation for our observations.2 It ties together all the facts about something, providing an explanation that fits all the observations and can be used to make predictions. In science, theory is the ultimate goal, the explanation. It's as close to proven as anything in science can be.
Some people think that in science, you have a theory, and once it's proven, it becomes a law. That's not how it works. In science, we collect facts, or observations, we use laws to describe them, and a theory to explain them. You don't promote a theory to a law by proving it. A theory never becomes a law.
This bears repeating. A theory never becomes a law. In fact, if there was a hierarchy of science, theories would be higher than laws. There is nothing higher, or better, than a theory. Laws describe things, theories explain them. An example will help you to understand this. There's a law of gravity, which is the description of gravity. It basically says that if you let go of something it'll fall. It doesn't say why. Then there's the theory of gravity, which is an attempt to explain why. Actually, Newton's Theory of Gravity did a pretty good job, but Einstein's Theory of Relativity does a better job of explaining it. These explanations are called theories, and will always be theories. They can't be changed into laws, because laws are different things. Laws describe, and theories explain.
Just because it's called a theory of gravity, doesn't mean that it's just a guess. It's been tested. All our observations are supported by it, as well as its predictions that we've tested. Also, gravity is real! You can observe it for yourself. Just because it's real doesn't mean that the explanation is a law. The explanation, in scientific terms, is called a theory.
Evolution is the same. There's the fact of evolution. Evolution (genetic change over generations)3 happens, just like gravity does. Don't take my word for it.4 Ask your science teacher, or google it. But that's not the issue we are addressing here. The Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection is our best explanation for the fact of evolution. It has been tested and scrutinised for over 150 years, and is supported by all the relevant observations.
Next time someone tries to tell you that evolution is just a theory, as a way of dismissing it, as if it's just something someone guessed at, remember that they're using the non-scientific meaning of the word. If that person is a teacher, or minister, or some other figure of authority, they should know better. In fact, they probably do, and are trying to mislead you.5
Evolution is not just a theory, it's triumphantly a theory!
Try again, kid.
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Still looking for EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
All I have seen up till now is BS, fabricated "evidence" ( phuket word, Rob Skiba, P-brane, Taboo Conspiracies II and Once You Go Flat You Never Go Back!, flatzoid FE)
Pure lies (Spurskimo, Kyle Adams, Sleeping Warrior)
Denial, ( Bob Knodel, Jeran,)
Begging for Money (The Morgile) and a whole lot of silly arguments. ( Pratt, Brandon Toy, Sleeping Warrior)
Flawed experiments and experiment that prove the globe. ( Pratt, Ranty, Subirats)
Silly video's that prove nothing and a whole lot of strawmen. (Nathan Oakley, Nathan Thompson)
Where is the proof for a flat earth???
A map? A Model that has predictive capabilities???
Come on guy. You have to do better.
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@YouMustQuestionEverything Hm, Does a few years at sea observing my environment, using all the stuff on board count??
I mean, Naked eye observations, binoculair, radar, NavSat, GPS, RDF, Loran, Decca, Satcom,
Sextant observations and sight reduction calculations, Great circle calculations, etc.....
Be smart and stop trying to sell B$ to a mariner.
I have seen to much things that are all impossible on a flat earth.
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@neatoburrito1 You know KNOWN distance by measuring.
Something you have never done.
The eratothenes test with 3 or more data points shows a nice globe. but you never did that test.
Why don't you research hor the ancient greeks determined the distance to the moon and the sun?
Your argumens from personal incredulity and ignorance have no value.
The "do your own research" arguments, The last defence of the flerf that has not done any research.
"Own research" Hm, Does a few years at sea observing my environment, using all the stuff on board count??
I mean, Naked eye observations, binoculair, radar, NavSat, GPS, RDF, Loran, Decca, Satcom,
Sextant observations and sight reduction calculations, Great circle calculations, etc.....
Nice list of claims. Can you say "gravity is just a theory"??
I almost got BINGO on m flerf bingo card.
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@d-boy1644 BTW..
"Own research" Hm, Does a few years at sea observing my environment, using all the stuff on board count??
I mean, Naked eye observations, binoculair, radar, NavSat, GPS, RDF, Loran, Decca, Satcom,
Sextant observations and sight reduction calculations, Great circle calculations, etc.....
I have seen to much things that are all impossible on a flat earth.
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@shots-shots-shotseverybody2707 Am I bringing up an ELEMENT
Like H,He,LI,B BO,C,NO,F Ne,Na,Mg,Al Si,P, S Cl,Ar, K,Ca, etc...???
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@zorankostur I have done my research.
"Own research" Hm, Does a few years at sea observing my environment, using all the stuff on board count??
I mean, Naked eye observations, binoculair, radar, NavSat, GPS, RDF, Loran, Decca, Satcom,
Sextant observations and sight reduction calculations, Great circle calculations, etc.....
Be smart and stop trying to sell B$ to a mariner.
I have seen to much things that are all impossible on a flat earth.
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@CleanTeamSolutions Looks like you failed basic astronomy also.
The northstar is not constant. It moves.
Observed, documented and tested.
2000 years ago polaris was Thuban
designation Alpha Draconis (α Draconis, abbreviated Alpha Dra, α Dra), is a star (or star system) in the constellation of Draco. A relatively inconspicuous star in the night sky of the Northern Hemisphere, it is historically significant as having been the north pole star from the 4th to 2nd millennium BC.
Precession and Nutation
The Earth's axis precesses: the motion of its rotation axis is similar to that of a top spinning with its axis tilted.
The precession is in response to torques principally by the Sun and Moon. The spinning Earth responds to these
torques in the manner of a gyroscope. The result is a slow westward movement of the equinoxes and solstices. This
westward motion of the equinoxes along the ecliptic is called precession of the equinoxes.
The precession has a period of about 25,800 years. There are also a series of short period motions of
the Earth's axis of rotation called nutation. The nutations are all quite small.
The largest nutation has an amplitude of 0.'2 and a period of 18.6 years. The next largest nutation has an amplitude of
just 0.'01 and a period of 0.5 years.
The sidereal hour angle is measured from the vernal equinox, and declination from the celestial equator, so the
coordinates of celestial bodies change because of precession. The total motion with respect to the ecliptic, called
general precession, is about 50."29 per year. It may be divided into two components with respect to the celestial
equator: precession in right ascension (about 46."12 per year) measured along the celestial equator, and precession
in declination (about 20."04 per year) measured perpendicular to the celestial equator. The annual change in the
coordinates of any given star, due to precession alone, depends upon its position on the celestial sphere.
Since precession changes the direction of Earth's pole, Polaris will not always be Earth's “Pole Star”. Currently,
the north celestial pole is moving closer to Polaris because of precession. It will pass at a distance of approximately 28'
about the year 2102. Afterward, the polar distance will increase, and eventually other stars, in their turn, will become
the Pole Star.
Apparent Motion due to Movement of other Celestial Bodies
Each celestial body makes its own contribution to its apparent motion:
The Moon revolves about the Earth each month, rising in the west and setting in the east. Its orbital plane is slightly
inclined to the ecliptic (see Section 1319), and is continuously changing in response to perturbations in its motion,
primarily by the Sun.
The planets revolve about the Sun (technically, the solar system barycenter, which is within the sun's interior).
The inferior planets, Mercury and Venus, appear to move eastward and westward relative to the Sun. The period for
Mercury's motion is 116 days and the period for Venus is 584 days. The superior planets make an
apparent revolution around the Earth, from west to east. The periods for their motion varies from 780 to 367 days,
depending on the planet.
The stars revolve about the galactic center. As they move about the galactic center, the stars, including the Sun,
move with respect to one another. The component of their motion across the line of sight is called proper motion. The
maximum observed proper motion is that of Barnard's Star, which is moving at the rate of 10.3 seconds of arc per year.
Barnard's Star is a tenth-magnitude star, not visible to the unaided eye. Rigil Kentaurus has the greatest proper motion
of the 57 stars listed on the daily pages of the almanacs, about 3.7 seconds per year. Arcturus has the greatest proper
motion of the navigational stars in the Northern Hemisphere, 2.3 seconds per year. Over the course of a few
years, proper motions are very small; they can be ignored when reducing celestial navigation sights. A few thousand
years of proper motion is sufficient to materially alter the look of some familiar constellations.
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@adrianmoore3118 Sorry kid but I did not look at the facts??
Are you sure about that?
Are you some mindreader that knows what I have done in my life??
Does a few years at sea observing my environment, using all the stuff on board count??
I mean, Naked eye observations, binoculair, radar, NavSat, GPS, RDF, Loran, Decca, Satcom,
Sextant observations and sight reduction calculations, Great circle calculations, etc.....
I have seen to much things that are all impossible on a flat earth.
How have you wasted your life?
Did you test anything???
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@therealunclevanya Still looking for EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
All I have seen up till now is BS, fabricated "evidence" ( phuket word, Rob Skiba, P-brane, Taboo Conspiracies II and Once You Go Flat You Never Go Back!)
Pure lies (Spurskimo, Kyle Adams, Eric Dubay)
Denial, ( Bob Knodel, Jeran,)
Begging for Money (The Morgile) and a whole lot of silly arguments. ( Pratt, Brandon Toy)
Flawed experiments and experiment that prove the globe. ( Pratt, Ranty, Subirats)
Silly video's that prove nothing and a whole lot of strawmen. (Nathan Oakley, Nathan Thompson)
Where is the proof for a flat earth???
A map? A Model that has predictive capabilities???
Come on guy. You have to do better.
Why are you unable to provide EVIDENCE for the flat earth??
Globe bashing is not going to do it. It always end in an argument from incredulity.
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Still looking for EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
All I have seen up till now is BS, fabricated "evidence" ( phuket word, Rob Skiba, P-brane, Taboo Conspiracies II and Once You Go Flat You Never Go Back!)
Pure lies (Spurskimo, Kyle Adams)
Denial, ( Bob Knodel, Jeran,)
Begging for Money (The Morgile) and a whole lot of silly arguments. ( Pratt, Brandon Toy)
Flawed experiments and experiment that prove the globe. ( Pratt, Ranty, Subirats)
Silly video's that prove nothing and a whole lot of strawmen. (Nathan Oakley, Nathan Thompson)
Where is the proof for a flat earth???
A map? A Model that has predictive capabilities???
Come on guy. You have to do better.
Why are you unable to provide EVIDENCE for the flat earth??
Globe bashing is not going to do it. It always end in an argument from incredulity.
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@JessiQT17 Sure you want to play the "do your own research" card, kid????
"Own research" Hm, Does a few years at sea observing my environment, using all the stuff on board count??
I mean, Naked eye observations, binoculair, radar, NavSat, GPS, RDF, Loran, Decca, Satcom,
Sextant observations and sight reduction calculations, Great circle calculations, etc.....
I have seen to much things that are all impossible on a flat earth.
So, EVIDENCE for your claims?????
When is that coming???
What have you tested lately???
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@TheForeverMan Still looking for EVIDENCE for a flat earth.
All I have seen up till now is BS, fabricated "evidence" ( phuket word, Rob Skiba, P-brane, Taboo Conspiracies II and Once You Go Flat You Never Go Back!)
Pure lies (Spurskimo, Kyle Adams)
Denial, ( Bob Knodel, Jeran,)
Begging for Money (The Morgile) and a whole lot of silly arguments. ( Pratt, Brandon Toy)
Flawed experiments and experiment that prove the globe. ( Pratt, Ranty, Subirats)
Silly video's that prove nothing and a lot of strawmen. (Nathan Oakley, Nathan Thompson)
And a whole lot of flawed math.
Where is the proof for a flat earth???
A map? A Model that has predictive capabilities???
Come on guy. You have to do better.
Why are you unable to provide EVIDENCE for the flat earth??
Globe bashing is not going to do it. It always end in an argument from incredulity.
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