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Comments by "" (@charlesvan13) on "Azov Battalion - History & Symbols" video.
I'm just trying to figure out how someone could be a Ukrainian Nazi. There were foreign collaborators in WW2, but Nazism was a distinctly German phenomenon.
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@danmorgan3685 That still wouldn't explain how a Ukrainian military faction was tied to German ethno-nationalist movement.
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But what's their actual tie to Nazism? The Nazis were a particular german part of it's time. There are people in America who play act with these symbols, but they aren't Nazis. There's no Nazi party. There are many fringe communist parties, who have candidates for president, who get maybe 1000 votes. But Nazism is pretty unique to Germany in its period.
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CrxMarksman You talking to me?
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@organismseven3700 There's an Oliver Stone movie on Ukraine history. The problem is that anything out of the US media will just be propaganda. Ukraine has been that latest virtue signal in American politics -- it's inconsistent with the Democrats abandoning Afghanistan, but it is what it is.
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@StoutProper There are Americans who dress up and play act as Nazis. That's not the same thing. There's no American Nazi party. There used to be a web site, but there are no members and there's no organization that does anything.
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@StoutProper During WW2 there were a small number of German-American who supported German, and considered themselves Nazis. But the Nazi party ended in 1945. There was an American Nazi party (founded by Geo. Lincoln Rockwell) after that. But it doesn't exist anymore. There might be a website. But it has no members, doesn't do anything, so isn't a political party. People are desperate for political narratives, so they make up BS and lie. I'm acutely aware of that. Eg. we've seen that there are people that desperately want lynching to still be a problem in the US. But it's not; it last happened over 40 years ago. So they're reduced to making up incidents.
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@organismseven3700 "You need to do some research." You pretty much restated what I said, more verbosely. There were Nazi collaborators in other countries. But Nazism was weaponized German identity politics.
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@jbol2454 Fascist movements, not Nazis. But again, Nazism was a German ethnonationalist movement. The Nazis even considered Slavs to be inferior people. There's a stupid American trend to call everyone on the right, or populist, or anyone who isn't a dupe to the latest media BS, a "Nazi". It's something stupid people like to do.
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