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Comments by "" (@charlesvan13) on "Kyle Kulinski is Melting down" video.
The majority of the "medicare for all" are too simple minded to understand the issues surrounding it.
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I don't think any budget studies predict a cost decrease. You can't to a simple comparison with other countries because the U.S. does more medical research than any other country. US law does guarantee healthcare. It is illegal to turn anyone away from an ER in 99% of hospitals. (those which accept medicare and medicaid payments). That's another thing progressives do all the time. They confuse access, with free. Ironically, for typical chronic conditions in the US the drug companies will give the meds to patients for free, if they don't have health insurance. Also, not every European country has "medicare for all", which would be a Canadian system. The UK has the NHS, but people with better jobs get better private benefits.
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That's why the leftist youtubers are not worth listening to. When the unions are opposed to their healthcare policy proposal, there is no chance. They just have people raising their hands when asked if they want free shit. But the reality is that nothing is free.
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@steveng6704 The younger generation is naive to how much "medicare for all" will cost them when they get a job. The vast majority of people under 30 are better off with just a catastrophic plan, and pay for simple doctor visits. I literally went to the doctor about 5-10 times between being born and my 30s, and never checked into a hospital.
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No country does that. The taxpayer funded systems always have serious funding controversies. They, of course have limited funding, and it's very controversial to deny treatment. So when it comes to either treating the elderly or treating illegal immigrants, only a batshit goofy politician would choose the later.
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@HardenJID I've never lived in the UK. But the UK system isn't what the progressives are proposing. Not every UK resident is on the NHS. If you're say, an University professor, you'd have something more like American health plan. Also, I think Switzerland has a private system that's basically like Obamacare.
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@nottopcat5956 That's different than what Cenk, Kulinski, and all Bernie supporters are proposing. "Medicare for all" means that everyone is on the same nationalized public health insurance. I gave the UK as an example of a country that doesn't have the health insurance system these leftists want.
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@Pahoe77 That's another reason Americans don't want the Canadian system. They have longer waiting periods, because the supply is more limited.
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@HardenJID In the US most new drugs are developed by private drug companies. Many have really high prices (can be $5000/month) a lot of which pays for R & D. But no one pays that price out of pocket. It's either covered by insurance, and what's not covered by insurance covered by the drug company (perhaps with $40 copay).
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@annatardlordofderps9181 The only leftist youtubers I can stomach are Jimmy Dore. And there is of course the disaffected former progressives like Tim Pool. They actually call most of the bullshit, while the ordinary left participates in spreading it. It's not just the positions. Everybody has some crazy ideas. But it's a warped state of mind. It's this combination of smug self-entitlement, and arrogant nastiness combined with spineless weakness.
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Your last comment is why this will not pass politically, even if Sanders were elected. People with good private health insurance wont stand for being forced onto an overburdened system that's going to make their taxes skyrocket. And the under 30 crowd isn't going to want it because they never go to the doctor.
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@Sunsetiscool Other countries do have that. There was a study that estimated 30k preventable deaths per year in the US. (These are people who develop a serious problem, but don't go to the hospital for fear of going broke.). But the same study estimated 30k preventable deaths in the UK per year. That's much worse; the UK has 5x the preventable death.
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@Sunsetiscool My point is that a particular system, such as government healthcare doesn't fix it. In the UK people don't die because they fear bankruptcy, but they die because of lack of access from the cheap government national health service.
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@Sunsetiscool It's hard to say what the solution is. The health insurance mandate was repealed because people were forced to buy expensive policies with such high deductibles that it was near useless. One reason it's harder to enact universal health insurance in the US is that Americans are willing to take financial risks. It's a risk starting a business: you could go go bankrupt. It's the same with health insurance.
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@Broadstreet Flyers95 What's that supposed to mean?
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@Broadstreet Flyers95 I guess they would go on medicaid, if they can't pay for it. That's the way it is everywhere. What's the "Fuck you, scumbag" all about?
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@Broadstreet Flyers95 Dude. You don't know how ironic your comment is. Where I live all the public hospitals are full of COVID-19 patients. I've been paying cash just to go to a clean (non-crowded and much nicer) private hospital. I have public health insurance which covers the public hospitals. No, you dumbass, you want private health insurance.
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@AugustaMuth The USA is a substantially different country, both in political culture and philosophy, and in logistics. Too many people would stand to lose by a policy that Kyle Kulliski thinks is "obvious". I needed some medicine that cost $4000/month. While in Germany, Germany doesn't allow mailing prescription meds. I went to a Dr to try to figure out how to mail it. It was actually impossible, a blanket ban by Zollamt. The Dr was really surprised that I could get it for $50 from the drug company. So even people with conditions would lose.
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@feelthepony They don't provide health insurance to illegals, no country does that. You have to apply for certain visas. Even just a residence permit doesn't give you benefits for citizens.
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"Politics is an easy game." He's literally proposing a plan that would double the federal budget and cost an additional 2 trillion a year. That's incredibly difficult.
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@iqmalwolfenden9122 The stimulus is obviously not sustainable spending; it's an emergency measure. A government entitlement plan has to be sustainable.
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@HardenJID I never said "private insurance companies cover everything". They obviously don't. You've been reading something else then claiming it's my comment. I said that for major common conditions the drug companies will provide medications at no cost, or a copay, for those who don't have insurance coverage. You're criticism isn't even remotely related to what I said.
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@HardenJID Dude. You have a reading problem. I never anything remotely like "private insurance covers everything". Government research grants don't amount to the kind of money drug companies have. An NSF grant is just in the hundreds of thousands.
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@nottopcat5956 But the topic of this video is Kullinski, Cenk and other who support "medicare for all". The UK doesn't have that, neither do many European countries. Most countries have private health insurance.
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