Comments by "nom de guerre" (@nomdeguerre8464) on "HEATED Debate: Is Andrew Tate Good For Society?" video.

  1. Agreed. There's something to be said about having another opinion on the show for the sake of being open minded, but he's unbearable and a tool.
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  2. As is PBD keeping him around.
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  3. He's not bright enough to be a cohost. Too bad PBD doesn't recognize the Dunning-Kruger diagnosis and cut the dead weight.
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  4. ​@YungPhilosopher there's ZERO way to take what he said in any context that is positive. You're being an apologist for predator, immoral behavior. Congrats.
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  5. PBD should have died inside from embarrassment, but instead he marginally tries to split the baby (unsuccessfully). A bad show by the Value guys.
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  6. ​ @staysolid19 you couldn't even begin to explain how. She'd own you as well.
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  7. ​ @yannickcoman8716 wrong. The Tates were still running the cam girls and promoting decadence, affluence, etc as recent as the arrests.
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  8.  @rumchata6569  to get away with talking about certain subjects? They don't NOTICE enough to keep him around if you ask me...
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  9. ​ @maozedong1913 no, she explained her position quite well, answered pointed questions when asked to do so, and brought up valid points and questions of her own (that weren't really addressed). The glossing over and argument fallacies were on the part of Adam, and I'm embarrassed for you that you can't even perceive that.
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  10.  @justhair17  that didn't happen, and you couldn't point it out if you tried, but thanks for playing!
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  11. @tjcogger1974  again, explain the context that makes what he's talking about OK. I'll wait. Go ahead. Make a good argument and I'll retract my statement. And, go.
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  12. ​ @tfsalnave1 you couldn't begin to form a cogent argument against anything she said.
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  13. @dgee7931  that doesn't mean he doesn't have a bad take.
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  14. @user-pq3vd6oc1c  right, but I suspect he doesn't want to be seen uncool by his peers. Rather, Liz already addressed this- everyone from the entire panel to the Tates to us two believe men have an unfair shake. The issue, as she points out, is what to do with that. It is ancient knowledge that two wrongs don't make a right. Zero nuance by PBD, and a false dilemma/dichotomy from him to act like the only choices are at the extremes.
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  15. @justhair17  what garbage. It's not that old, they in fact didn't change (a different tune after the arrest, but who knows if that's genuine), and please explain for the class ANY context that clip of appropriate. You apologists embarrassed yourselves.
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  16.  @justhair17  OK, now address what I actually said.
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  17.  @justhair17  did I only talk about the video age, or was there anything else in my first post to you? You do understand the English language, no?
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  18. @user-oy3fq5kx4m  yes, he did a great job of showing a bad take. Another take for another takes sake is it then?
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  19. Tell the room which of those things aren't still timely? Do you even know how recent the OF business was? She didn't gloss over anything. Comments like yours are an embarrassment.
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  20. The problem is you can't successfully split the baby. You can't defend the indefensible. You can't create a false dichotomy. And you can't gloss over that clip and claim the moral high ground. Liz tries to show PBD he doesn't want his daughters treated that way, but can't even verbalize that is a reprehensible clip. A bad showing by PBD.
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  21. ​ @Kewrock I can find many in the comments disappointed and disgusted with Adam, the resident clown, but not as many as you and I that are let down by PBD's bad attempt to split the baby and create a false dichotomy bereft of nuance. He should just nuke this whole clip.
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  22. OP, the Tates aren't into men, you can give it up.
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  23. ​@tfsalnave1 how was that vid out of context? What is the proper context? How much do you know about her message that is in fact productive and positive for society, because she's not just some random. Apologist.
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  24. Lol at the Tate apologists sweeping under the rug his history. I thought it was leftists that ignore reality, sheesh
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  25.  @tjp3127  she didn't yell, or interrupt, and she answered every pointed question sent her way. The opposite cannot be said. You have it exactly backwards, Tate fanboy. Sorry, but he's not into guys (I think? )
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  26. Honestly, an embarrassing moment for PBD as well. Letting Adam off a leash, and PBD's take isn't good either. Does he not understand nuance? Middle ground? False dichotomies? Holy embarrassment.
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  27. ​ @dyawr these apologists are embarrassing, and I suspect secretly are crushing on the Tates.
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  28. @staysolid19  that shows your own ignorance. Their camming scheme was still operating at the time of the arrests. Their supposed newfound religious experience doesn't somehow negate the facts on the matter. He was still pushing lavish lifestyles, player mentality, materialism, etc - and you'll note he didn't turn from any of that by the way. It's not like his lifestyle was indicative of a change or heart. He was yielding no fruit. Tristan was dating an active OF girl for crying out loud. He talks out of both sides of his mouth (well, they BOTH do) and you just ignore the one side out of convenience.
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  29. @dyawr  these fanboys are embarrassing and quite frankly I think are crushing on the Tates. They don't actually care about the facts of the matter, and the guy we're replying to thinks Liz hasn't done anything to promote a wholesome life when that's entirely been her brand for years and years now - long before the supposed religious conversion the Tates had, and without any of the slimy background. He's completely just talking out of his arse, which is par for the course for a Tatrosexual.
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  30. ​ @Ceoofedging the Tates were still utilizing OF girls just prior to the arrest. Cope cope cope. Everything she said was accurate and timely. Apologist.
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  31.  @Ceoofedging  "On 11 April 2022, the U.S. embassy received a claim that an American citizen was being held against her will in a property owned by the Tate brothers in Pipera, Romania.[107] The Romanian police raided the home, and a nearby webcam studio belonging to the Tates, where they discovered four women. " Again, not long ago, and DURING THE ARREST, the Tates were still operating the cam girl sites. Typical uninformed apologist.
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  32.  @Ceoofedging  she wasn't the only one there, and perhaps you missed (glossed over) the part about the ACTIVE OF STUDIO being run by the Tates on their own property. Congrats on the unsuccessful strawman, fanboy.
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  33.  @Ceoofedging  again, this conversation isn't about the claims of Tate and his history with force. It's about the OF girls, which you fallacious claim the Tates divested from, only the actual facts are it was still operational (say nothing of dating one that actively creates content.... tell me more about how their newfound religion made them distance from things OF and then admit one lived with Tristan and Andrew. Lol, you can't even keep your story straight). Doubling down on a strawman doesn't make it applicable or worth discussing. But, keep digging if you'd like.
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  34.  @Ceoofedging  I literally quoted a source. Again, there were FOUR WOMEN AND AN OPERATIONAL STUDIO on their property. You, on the other hand, have zero facts, and can only invoke a woman's testimony that I didn't even bring up, and don't really care about. It doesn't change the facts of what we're talking about here. Why don't you address the source I quoted, and what it said, instead of tripling down on your pathetic strawman? Because you can't, fanboy.
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  35.  @Ceoofedging  also, it's "nope" (the only arrow in your quiver isn't even deployed accurately). What an embarrassment you fanboys are.
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  36.  @maozedong1913  if so, apologies. But, it SOUNDS like you're being sardonic to the point of saying that her only argument is her opinion is right, the end. Your second sentence doesn't address or reference Liz, so apologies as I thought it was in reference to Adam. It was vague enough to be in defense of either.
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  37. @soacker25  better than someone that wants to bed the Tate bros
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  38. ​ @NK-iw6rq no. Us actual conservatives don't like predators. You seem like you're of their mindset. Hello, projection.
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  39.  @louverture905  he found a mirror
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  40.  @MORPHEUS274  oh, do tell!
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  41. ​ @soulfireonfire6423 yes, he is barking up the wrong tree. What a dumpster fire of a take he has.
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  42. Adam comes across as a predator apologist, and needs to understand what the Dunning-Kruger effect is...
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  43. ​ @MasculineIdeal these shills and apologists are embarrassing. True men don't idolize OTHER MEN like they do. They are being preyed on by the Tates, and defend them in some sort of sick Stockholm Syndrome fashion.
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  44.  @lebohangmohapi8605  holy low high bar then.
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  45. ​ @raidensama1511 holy shit, you completely glossed over everything else she said. That wasn't the ONLY point she had. You're an embarrassment to critical thought.
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  46. ​ @ハク-q6e1j Adam and PBD don't actually have the same take at all, although PBD did a poor job making it clear.
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  47. @yannickcoman8716  their supposed newfound religion doesn't negate the facts, which are easily found online. It is YOU that is naive and misinformed. Par for the course for a Tate apologist fanboy.
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  48. ​ @shogunofharlem8240 ignorant. She's covered his content many times. She has a sizable channel and following, and you are simply naive and uninformed as all the other guys that lust after the Tate bros.
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  49. If you think Adam made a good point I don't know what to tell you.
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  50. So, um, exactly what Liz said first.
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  51. ​ @fabiogonzalez4413 lolol, you are EXTREMELY naive and uninformed.
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  52. ​@tjcogger1974 umm, Adam did.
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  53.  @TheFactsDontCare87  hur dur, brilliant.
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  54. @staysolid19  also, you clearly don't know ANYTHING about Liz or what she promotes. You should shut your mouth before you sound even more ignorant than you already do.
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  55.  @staysolid19  you didn't have to reply to indicate you don't have an actual argument to make - that much was already clear.
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  56. @staysolid19  "lol... bruh... lol" then tells me to grow up. Ahh, projection at its finest. Tatrosexuals are truly an embarrassment.
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  57. @staysolid19  holy strawman, batman! You just can't stop digging your hole, can you? You were JUST pointing out how they found religion and denounced that lifestyle, and not only can you not refute a single fact, but you actually defend him dating an OF (active) girl while keeping the camming biz active. So, which is it - did he turn away from that lifestyle or not? You can't argue both, that's called cognitive dissonance. You're only grasp at straws is a to ad hominem about me somehow being jealous, as if that somehow magically negates the facts. Keep defending your lover, but I'm pretty sure he's not into men (or at least I believe so!). Rest assured either way, he's not going to read your posts, the celebritism will get you nowhere in life. Grow up and be a REAL man and stop idolizing trash, or other men in general. You embarrass yourself!
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  58.  @tfsalnave1  typical fanboy with a Tate crush. You've got nothing.
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  59.  @tfsalnave1  tell me how much you know about me, tryhard. Tate won't bed you, sorry.
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  60.  @tfsalnave1  point to where I indicated hate for anyone that enjoys a better life. I'll wait.
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  61. ​@harijotkhalsa9496 it's his literal cut-and-paste bad take apologist post he put up and down the comments.
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  62. ​ @YungPhilosopher explain how that's a moral take I'm any context, apologist.
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  63. @tecTitus hey, fanboy, the Tates don't want to fnck you.
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