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Comments by "annoyed aussie" (@annoyedaussie3942) on "Chinese Covid vaccines 'don't have high protection rates', official says - BBC News" video.
@ackers5861 No stats of vaccine efficacy come out of China , just as you will get no information out of Australia, without cases it's impossible to work out efficacy.
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It doesn't matter, in countries with thousands of people dying, 50% is better than nothing, it's also the bar the WHO decided upon a long time ago. While it might be sad that 100 people or whatever have died from vaccines themselves, noting just because some vaccines are studied more it might appear some are more dangerous leading to 1 death every 2 million people or something , it's fair to say in India or Brazil this is not being looked into the thousands dying daily from covid 19 is a bigger concern. Only either wealthy countries or countries with low case numbers will have any truly reliable information. Where Chinese vaccines are mostly going don't fit into a reliable category and most likely will be the same a death every couple of million from the vaccines.
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@LoC28C according to WHO one of the Chinese vaccines seems to be 79% which is less than some others and then you have individual variants which with all vaccines varies. People are still dying after having any vaccine , none are 100% effective against death as was being claimed earlier by many from extremely low sample numbers. As far as side effect deaths it's really hard to pick up one in a million, most health systems in the world couldn't actually do it. I am not critical of any vaccines actually but neither am I a promoter of any. In some countries like US and a few others people will continue to die due to the fact they won't get vaccinated. 1 death in a million is completely acceptable from the vaccines, up to 3 per 1,000 people out of some entire populations have died from covid 19 in some jurisdictions.
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@margaretliu3409 You're just a pro masker. Masks are last line of defence to slow not stop spread when all else has failed at the population level. All states of Australia plus New Zealand except for New South Wales and Victoria got to 0 cases without any mask mandate, just a request if you are feeling a bit sick then wear one. If you compare my state of Queensland to Taiwan they are very similar, slightly more imported cases into Queensland and it did spread a little bit last year so lockdown was about 8 weeks versus 3 weeks for Taiwan, the Taiwanese still had a mask mandate 100 days after their last case of community transmission, that's like protecting yourself from mosquito in Antarctica, pretty pointless actually and achieved nothing because you can't catch something that isn't around. I am not an antimasker but pro maskers are problematic also because masks don't perform magic and can't stop spread, lockdowns as required plus contact tracing plus border quarantine do and masks add a tiny bit to those main control methods. I guess you talking from the UK which has had an open border the entire time and only self quarantine where you can catch public transport to your destination and stay with family or friends who have no restrictions whatsoever which is only designed to slow spread so technically not even quarantine. Anyway best of luck where ever you are , the only thing that will stop spread is vaccinations because with no border quarantine cases will be coming in for years.
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@TomNook. Read your comment back to yourself, you are a racial supremacist. East Asians have more technology and knowledge, it's simply not true some East Asian are smart and study a lot etc. the majority just like any country know nothing of science or technology and the technological advances on a per capita basis are still lower than wealthy Western countries and this is to do with culture/type of education mostly. This might change in the future who knows but for now that is how it is.
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@margaretliu3409 that you must wear masks indoors in the UK at the moment is entirely appropriate, if the virus was as rampant in Australia as it currently is in the UK any states with cases would have their borders shut on them and they would be in hard lockdown. The current case rate in the UK is higher than it ever reached in Australia, but the good thing is most older people vaccinated and the death rates are relatively low when compared to before. Japan is a case in point of why masks on their own don't stop anything, I think and guess voluntary mask wearing compliance there to be very high, Japan is now approaching 100 deaths per million and looking at their case rate it's looking like they could totally lose control noting an extremely low vaccination rate and low overall previously infected rate. India's current deaths per million are about double that of Japan. Anyway you stay safe as I guess you will, things are at least looking up in the UK due to vaccinations and a slightly more cautious approach than previously.
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