Comments by "annoyed aussie" (@annoyedaussie3942) on "7NEWS Australia" channel.

  1. You are not considered vaccinated until 2 weeks after the second shot, you are considered party vaccinated 2 weeks after the first shot, we don't know how long after the first shot so the 4 number is somewhat meaningless without this further information.
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  2. I think from the quarantine issues and opening too quickly. The abattoir which had 40 cases detected after a known case after a month showed a failed contact tracing regime. Pretty sure Victoria opened more quickly than QLD. So several factors I would suggest.
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  3.  Boon Huat Tan  Mate go to Florida or Texas, or Brazil and see what you think.
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  4. Don't be paranoid. It's only 3 days unless it turns out it has spread.
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  5. That was/is Sweden's approach. Multiply their death toll by 2.5 to adjust to Australian population or multiply by 0.65 for Victoria and see if you like the number.
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  6. The first movie of the current remake is one of my favourite movies. The military and political aspects and conduct in that movie is actually more realistic than all realistic looking fiction movies in this genre.
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  7. Ignore Joe he's an idiot
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  8.  @laurencefraser  You are basically making the point of local culture and conditions. People often miss that point. What might work in one place may not work in another. Political leadership I believe plays a big role too. If people are willing to listen to the leader they comply much better. The leader also must seem credible.
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  9.  @BigRevKev82  With Andrews I do agree with you, I have watched his press conferences for a while, because he has changed policy from being the most open state to the current situation. He also until the current lockdown kept saying how their might be good reasons for the breaches. No doubt some listened to him so they can break rules using his excuses. But to give him credit he says he takes responsibility and was willing to change his let's open up everything and every state should drop travel restrictions, even if other states have put the pressure on, especially NSW who has abandoned the alliance with Victoria against all other states in favour of travel restrictions themselves.
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  10. Let's think your parents or grandparents generation, a world war, does this really compare to that and they turned out ok? I don't doubt what you say where you are but a lockdown with food on the table isn't exactly bad compared to what many people in the world are going through right now or last year, homicides were up in the US last year which has a homicide rate 6 times that of Australia based on 2019. Australia is great but not perfect and I agree with another comment in this thread the self harm is from other issues, we have it so good in Australia it's not because of the harsh conditions.
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  11. Opening at the same time is for fairness.
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  12. Mostly rode the China wave. We are opposite to USA , China is our biggest export market (iron ore , coal and agricultural commodity mostly) and by far biggest trading partner. The US doesn't really sell anything to China just import stuff, a change is afoot but only minor so far, a tax put on Australian feed barley exports and US given preferred supplier status by China within 2 days of each other. In other words China has to stop imports from more competitive country to get more US imports in, I am guessing not only Australia. So Trump has achieved something with the trade deal but of course means others lose.
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  13.  @ryand7828  Australia has many states with different approaches. Victoria and New South Wales were the more relaxed approaches first time round compared to other Australian states which they both criticized particularly my state Queensland. Victoria has gone quiet on the issue and NSW has decided border restrictions are a good idea all of a sudden.
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  14.  Mdmchannel  yeah on eBay off the looters. Still the rioters on foot have to run a lot. They will need new sneakers.
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  15. Then compare the per capita rate of deaths in New York and you will realise this is not like the flu.
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  16.  @Chuanese  It might help but if you have noticed there are many black police commissioner including the Minneapolis one. Nobody has called for his resignation, he's the big boss supposed to be running the show. I agree with you in principle but it's far more complicated than that and treating minor offences in the same way every other other Western country does would achieve much more. The burden on the police to both arrest and handcuff should be high. This is the most notable thing about US policing, the ease at which someone can be arrested. I don't know what country you are from but in Australia I think it would take hours for the police to come over a $20 note if they come at all and no chance of any arrest they might want CCTV footage that's it, and ask the suspect where it came from at some stage.
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  17. I don't think it's a big deal actually. Both agree homicide and caused by police actions. It might be because it changes burden of proof ever so slightly. It might also cause significant complications in the prosecution having 2 alternative views. Obviously it's a matter of order of events, if you are suffocated soon after your heart will stop , if you have heart attack soon after you will stop breathing. I can't see the defence presenting reasonable doubt in either case given the amount of time and also after Floyd became non responsive the knee was not removed. In another video at the beginning it shows Keung putting pressure on the back so that person could be equally responsible if it can be proven that timing was same to Chauvin.
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  18. Lack of contact tracing caused the second wave, QLD and NSW had outbreaks but not the same outcome. I think don't fear the government knows if you fail then can't have a 3rd lockdown most likely so you will be like a European country and in a complete mess. Although it's not guaranteed I would be confident that Victoria is going to be more like NZ or QLD from now and probably less risky than NSW. The most important is a gradual opening so if anything goes wrong then can stop it in time.
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  19. Yes the US should have state police only, I wouldn't trust my council running the police.
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  20. We can't send message really because it's an internal matter, but maybe our prime minister has said something privately, they would be able to contact each other directly if they want to.
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  21. Hey fair go people. I am not Victorian but be reasonable. If they were a US mainland state they would be considered the best performer. In the end it's up to Victorians after this event to decide if a new government is needed but now is not the time. When they are covid free then it's ok to comment , not kick them when they're down
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  22. I think lots of people in Victoria have got the shutes so let them have all the toilet paper they need. Send the military into other states if need be to aquire that product, Victorians are in a time of need.
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  23. They do roll. When a person is rolling drunk I think every part may roll.
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  24. You have essentially laid out Victorian response number 1 a she'll be right mate let's open up quickly everything is under control. You might notice Victoria is now the most restrictive state after being probably the most open and complaining about other states travel restrictions which have now become much tougher.
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  25.  @User888User  It's 3 days for now. Just relax. The only issue I see for now is married men will have to do those things around the house that their wives keep nagging them to do because making excuses is difficult so I feel for them.
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  26.  @User888User  Well at the moment I can become a Kiwi citizen. Maybe I'll escape the madness of Australia to find a new version in NZ. Every trip between Queensland and NZ might have 4 weeks quarantine though between the locations. In either case I can say I come from down under. We are much better than those northern hemispherions.
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  27. While protests may have contributed to an existing problem it's not the root cause. Brisbane and Sydney had large protests too but no apparent problem.
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  28. Why this comment. If it was a police state you would be covid free. In fact it can be argued the opposite, the state with the most relaxed attitude and the results are in.
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  29. The best way to fight is the vaccine, QLD and WA are doing fine and we are much more compliant in general plus overall a more cautious approach by our governments so have managed to have no cases so far but can change quickly of course.
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  30.  @thesepeoplearecriminals1731  What about Israel, the deaths are way down, we know that the vaccines reduce spread by maybe 50% and deaths and hospitalisation by 90% and after about 6 months start to reduce in efficacy. I don't want to pay for unvaccinated people in hospital. So what is it you want to tell me about Israel that actually isn't very highly vaccinated compared to some other countries like Portugal or Denmark.
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  31. Yes and now we looking towards the north east.
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  32. You are lucky to be a tax payer at the moment , with the job keeper and job seeker maybe 20% on welfare , oh and the pensioners on top of that.
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  33. Not really, the US police have really good kit.
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  34. Best of luck mate with Trump
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  35. That's why I watch 7 sometimes because they allow comments and others don't. Not saying allowing comments should be allowed all the time though because sometimes the comments on certain subjects probably cause more harm.
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  36. Exactly and every other country manufacturing parts is the same. Somehow I don't think Trump can follow through on this.
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  37. @Mepica Unhuevo well there's more cases, so I don't know. Until they can track down all the reasonably possible cases same for a while. I hope NZ gets the situation under control quickly and believe they will.
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  38.  Lord Voldemort  The strange thing is , there is no country that I am aware of where there isn't bipartisan agreement about the main premiss to contain or to mitigate. The US they say there is division but not on the main point which is to allow the virus to spread with mitigation only, no hard lockdowns or closed state borders when the state is managing the outbreak if they successful they only slow it down , no intention to stop it. In Australia and NZ it's containment, try to get rid of it and pick any new outbreaks quickly and contain the spread, with lockdowns if required like in Victoria and to a lesser extent Auckland and fairly tight border controls with mandatory quarantine. So no point jailing the opposition if they agree with you.
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  39.  @oldmate528  I do watch John Campbell almost religiously, although he isn't always correct in his assumptions he does look at a wide amount of information from a lot of countries and presents it in an easy to understand way.
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  40. Risking more than that , some may well be charged with criminal damage which is what that vandalism on the office front was.
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  41.  @Chris-ci5mt  The risks you indicate if Astrazeneca are to young ladies, didn't look like a crowd of little girls to me but then again maybe they were. They can book Pfizer if they think they are little girls.
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  42.  @jeramiegoodwin3426  The thing is antivaxxers are mostly just scared, this group fits into that category. The antivaxxers who are doing it for money and or power in the case of some politicians especially in other countries are the biggest problem because they exacerbate the fears of those who are genuinely scared of the vaccines. It's not logical but any phobia is the same and most people have some phobia or another.
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  43.  @Chris-ci5mt  Chris you mustn't be a historian, until the late 50s we had Leper colonies, antibiotics invented and no more leper colony. Vaccines have always been compulsory under certain circumstances in all but the least developed countries. If a building worker doesn't want to get vaccinated then they can find employment elsewhere, just like if someone doesn't want to drive which is far riskier than the vaccine they can find employment elsewhere. This will end at some point and then the unvaccinated tradespeople can go back to their regular job. They have a privilege actually, many Melbournians can't work with or without a vaccine at this point in time.
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  44.  @Chris-ci5mt  Nobody is being forced to take Pfizer, to the contrary the governments in VIC and NSW would prefer people take AZ to get vaccination rates up more quickly. There's no argument about MRNA, completely irrelevant when an alternate exists.
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  45. Says a guy in a pub in Queensland or NT laughing his head off.
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  46. They are different jurisdictions. Just as each US state is a different jurisdiction. Don't know what your comment is supposed to mean. This is how a federation operates. Are you suggesting there are 56 identical governments with thousands of identical police forces and laws plus territory governments that are all identical. That's communism maybe with central control.
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  47. NZ is just the same as the big 3 Australian states. I think she would have done a ten times better job than Cuomo of New York state.
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  48. The timing was unfortunate
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  49. Let's hope the girls wake up to themselves and apologize etc. or worst case 5 years prison. I doubt the judge would do that but if they are combative and unrepentant it will affect the sentencing if found guilty which seems clear cut at the moment.
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  50.  @lilychau1671  We will see or hear in a few days what happens, the slated court appearance date is 28 September so only a few days. I hope they act remorseful and genuinely are. They have had some time to think about it.
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  51. Every state has different laws and enforcement policies. I don't know the difference between WA and QLD. Laws can be very different, maybe it's a small fine in WA and possibly gaol time in QLD.
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  52. One of the first discussions regarding the virus in dealing with remote communities was basically nobody in and nobody out as much as is practical. Sensible people take the virus seriously.
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  53. But woolies is my only share doing well.
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  54. In reality that's true but it's clear many Victorian's and New South Welshmen aren't happy because they're aware of the situation elsewhere in Australia.
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  55. Good for China and a few other Asian countries. They will need more stock soon.
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  56.  Mdmchannel  lol
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  57. The police in Thailand not that violent.
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  58. The story sound believable except for the amount 5,000,000 Bt sounds way too much. Only about 5% of Thai would have assets worth that much. But in the end no violence. Thai police would be more corrupt on average but still much less violent than US police. I know Thailand having stayed there many times , have some investment there and girl friend there. The treatment of Muslims in southern Thailand previously can be compared to US in some ways but that was mostly military.
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  59. Out of more than 20.
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  60. Many steps in Queensland was only hours notice. This is the way it needs to be otherwise people will take advantage of the time to spread the virus. People are people, majority will do the right thing and the minority need to be catered for unfortunately. Don't take it personally which I know from myself having similar reactions previously.
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  61.  @juicygoldengrapes  it's better late than never. In the US he would be considered the best governor of the country based on performance with this issue. He just looks a bit out of place here, but it's good because he has a lot of pressure. Australia wants to open to NZ but Victoria is preventing that because other states understand Victorians would be offended and lose the plot, in other words internal diplomatic issues. Normally such situations don't exist.
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  62. Most states have Victoria needs to succeed then they can be like other states.
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  63.  @Alliwantedwasapepsi  Are you kidding. They have a 60% voter turnout give or take.
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  64. I don't think the US can, there are too many divisions. Even the use of handcuffs for the most minor offences and non violent is for a high income country only in America as far as I'm aware.
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  65. What a bunch of entitled brats, thousands can't go to work at all and have already been vaccinated but this mob still allowed to work at reduced capacity, it's just they need to get vaccinated like the majority of eligible citizens in Australia already have.
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  66. It won't. The underlying causes of the problems in the US don't really exist here. Of course we have our issues and things aren't perfect. The problems in the US seem intractable but over time the race issue should get better simply through intermarriage.
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  67. Sort of yes
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  68. Maybe in this part of the world we should call it the Victorian virus. People have been gaining illegal entry into Queensland saying they haven't been in Victoria so we have tightened border controls. Even one people smuggler some New South Wales person I think put a friend in the back of his hatchback to sneak across the border. So what you say isn't entirely out of the question lol.
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  69.  @LowkeyUzi2614  yes and the main component is most likely socio economic group regardless of the race of the person
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  70.  @KarnageGaming  look at Italy now, maybe better than some neighbours but not good. Have confidence that the Vic government will stay the course, that's why the number was set so low for complete opening.
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  71. It's not the time to do so, when Victoria is back to normal is the time.
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  72. Reading through many of the comments in this thread I am thinking the military members should be carrying alfoil hats for distribution. The army assisting the police are just lackies they have no power they will be just doing as the police tell them , the boys who go buy the coffee and stuff man any check points things like that. They can't lay a finger on someone, only a policeman can do that unless self defence or something. Fast hard authoritarian regimes like my Queensland, Western Australia and New Zealand haven't needed the military so much , once things are out of control it's much worse , Melbourne learnt the hard way but this time they seem to have control but NSW waited way too long for Delta, too arrogant unfortunately however don't hold it against the government too much, you have had less lockdowns up to now but this one will be hard. Best of luck and take care Mexicans. (I mean that in a friendly way)
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  73.  @delos2279  not that I am aware of, they haven't changed position at all. Nothing was said in the preliminary report that drugs caused the death but that they were there. The current charge could not have been made if the preliminary autopsy didn't indicate that the police officers contributed to the the death in a major way. I am same age to Floyd I have hypertension and probably other issues, so what, about 50% of males in my age group probably would. I don't have strong opinion on who is right, I don't know I am not a medical examiner. Others should take the same view rather than rush to judgement, I have no reason to believe either are acting in bad faith.
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  74. Hey seen a Woolies or Cole's you've seen them all. I assume Melbourne has such supermarket chains. Maybe some will have to switch chain not a disaster.
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  75. China put tax on our barley about a day after the US became a preferred supplier of barley to China. What da ya think?
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  76.  Malaka90  the death rate is because of measures taken and tests conducted what's your point.
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  77. Where are you from?
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