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Comments by "annoyed aussie" (@annoyedaussie3942) on "Interview, vaccines and acceptance" video.
Wait, all they have is preliminary stuff really.
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I don't believe the timelines for a second. Australian government aims that everyone who wants a vaccine gets one by the end of 2021, that's quite a different timeline to our northern friends in UK and US who have proven to run the most effective responses to covid 19 in the world. Like investments previous performance is not an indicator of future performance, but we shall see.
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Without modern medicine this would be the same to Spanish flu because most died from Spanish flu plus bacterial pneumonia and no antibiotics back then.
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@fatbelly27 what I want to know is those who got the placebo were they infected at the same rate as surrounding populations. I am suspecting that the placebo is effective too because the person who takes it is responsible anyway and would try not to get the virus. To get quick results they should be giving it out at MAGA rallies.
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In both vaccines it's based on a group of about 100 to become infected and working out the ratio of those who had the placebo versus vaccine. Not exactly large samples. The main thing is seems safe and even if the efficacy numbers aren't entirely accurate the vaccines do work.
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Alex Jones yes being sarcastic
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@krollpeter yes the Australian vaccination program is set to start about March and becoming available to general public around July or so. Australia also must consider it's neighbours, after our most important are vaccinated I would expect we would try to facilitate Indonesia etc. getting it out more quickly, truth is we can be patient and getting vaccines out slowly is easier, no need for changing anything, just go to the GP when you meet the criteria. A lot of this is done quietly because of politics.
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@krollpeter yes better to under promise and over deliver but I think other countries are over promising because a big part of the timeline is assuming let's say 4 effective vaccines, now that is looking likely but if it doesn't happen and immunity only lasts 6 months some countries might well be in this same position to now in a year's time because they won't get rid of the virus and the first vaccinated need vaccinations again. Maybe I am playing devil's advocate but I don't like working on optimistic assumptions because so much to lose if wrong.
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It's always been the case in militaries of course and don't know about other countries but for long term stays in Australia like international students they have been required to have certain vaccines prior to entry, not sure which ones though.
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