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Comments by "annoyed aussie" (@annoyedaussie3942) on "Monday Pandemic Update, 2 sides of the pond" video.
The other point is most if not all hospitalisations are actually quarantine of positive cases. Not sure if all states and territories have adopted this but I remember Queensland mentioning that quarantining people in hospital was considered an option. I think it's a good idea because it reduces the risks of people breaking self isolation or the virus spreading through a designated quarantine hotel. Hospitals in theory will have the highest ability to carry out quarantine to a higher standard.
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@sandraheaton1084 You wanna bet on you assumptions? People in Australia became remarkably civic minded when the leaders of our country and states took it seriously, for the few left over fines and or a bit of prison time brought about near universal civic mindedness , they can put their frustrations on social media but tended to follow the rules. Prison time for serious or repeat offenders is a good idea because it tells the public we aren't mucking around. Small or non existent fines and mandated requests are only good in a very highly compliant society, public shame brings about high levels of compliance in these circumstances, that seems to have started in the US but too little too late and everyone including you is resigned to more failures and lot's of people are broke so don't care anymore.
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@imathumb The sad thing is when cases were about 500 per day in Victoria, I was thinking they might be doomed, I don't know if you followed things much but slow action and contact tracing was the reason not the headline reason of a single quarantine breach which has occured in other states and New Zealand without it getting out of control, but Victoria came back better than any other jurisdiction outside of mainland China after reaching such case numbers and getting them to 0 . Canada at the same time was below 400 cases a day I think, I was impressed with Canada and thought they had done it but seems they relaxed. I think it's extreme to constantly put entire populations into lockdown lite indefinitely and the number of deaths people in Europe and North America accept is terrible. Of course Canada is far better than the big neighbour but that's basically comparing arguably the worst practice in the world for a high income country. What is most harmful to mental health is uncertainty in my opinion, if people know the outcome they will do there best, of course Victorians at the time would have felt terrible because every other state open with very limited restrictions and everything open and they are in hard lockdown, but conversely they can see an end and what the end of the process looks like. I am of course talking of the majority because some will always disagree but if you were to ask those same people now other than the conspiracy theorists I thing they would acknowledge having everything open including the state borders was worth it and deaths were not as bad as they would otherwise be. Best of luck and take care, at least vaccines are on there way but a few months before any real effects I think.
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On the Australian health website it publishes the imported case numbers for the last 7 days. Also just quickly search news on the matter because all cases of community transmission are national news, the US it's become news only if it's a high level politician or Trump associate, the news picks 1 case out of the 2,000 deaths for the day.
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