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Comments by "annoyed aussie" (@annoyedaussie3942) on "New CDC guidance and Sputnik looking good" video.
But one is unsightly the other can potentially kill.
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That just makes you the same as , the Americas ( almost all countries ) and almost the rest of Europe, so unfortunately you have a lot of company. In Western Pacific countries we all have 14 days hotel or other enforced quarantine for entry , most have policy of elimination, South Korea and Japan a little less so but towards that direction and even countries that didn't do as well like the Philippines or Indonesia much better than your group of countries.
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From Australia, I agree, without going into details as I could because I followed things in the US for a year, you need a new constitution and for the President to no longer be the leader of the government. The US was excellent 200 years ago, however now you have an elected king who is really difficult to remove, a Prime Minister can be removed in 15 minutes when parliament is sitting, just a simple party room vote . Also all ministers which you call secretaries are elected representatives not unelected officials chosen by a president. The rules for party registration and that political parties are state sponsored as in the government actually runs the process is problematic and the hurdles to register a new party in every US state is enormous and probably in reality next to impossible. The mantra of " protect the constitution " doesn't bode well for a total rework , because it's almost like a religious text to many it would seem. Best of luck.
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Basically he agrees with the UK position, however Fauci doesn't and he seems to be calling the shots in the task force. It would seem Osterholm wasn't invited to be in the taskforce , only the transition team. I think was probably a political decision because it was known Osterholm takes a harder line on interventions.
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@NJ-wb1cz I looked up the urbanisation rate for Russia and it's about 75% so mid range I guess and this can reduce the R number but it won't stop it. If you look at North and South Dakota they less urbanised than Russia but they did absolutely nothing until it became a full on disaster and the numbers show this. I think wealth plays a part because if you are poor and rural you won't go to town often. Another thing is Americans think the healthcare system will save them , I suspect but could be wrong in Russia and certainly a lot of poor nations people know that the public healthcare system isn't good and take more precautions, they know they are on their own. Whenever hospitals have overflowed in US states cases have dropped soon after, it's only a correlation however my thinking is it gets real for people and they take precautions but could also be some herd immunity in superspreader type populations. There are so many variables so it's always hard to know exact reasons without a lot of study of an area, even the strain types might be a big factor now, that seems to have been the case in the UK.
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That's why military forced to shave , comes from having to have gas masks if the Germans did chlorine attacks.
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@buckcampbell4292 "the science" term is bandied about too much, most of the science is social science anyway. Fauci and Osterholm are both well intentioned but they disagree that's all. American scientists and doctors think the US has a mentally weak population that can't be restricted and or alternatively politicians will make things fail no matter what so best to offer advice based on this. Maybe offering advice based on the assumption of political disfunction inside the US was the right thing to do, can't really fix the inherent disfunction during a pandemic. Same applies to Europe especially the EU, maybe they all refused the idea of any significant border restrictions early on so scientist went with that, however my feeling is actually the scientists are a representation of there own population and believed what they were doing is best. If you look at the regional offices of the WHO the policies of countries very much line up with those regions. The Pan American Health Office looks after the Americas and almost all similar results and the European region split into 3 areas. The regional offices may have amplified general culture of the regions. The top 40 countries for deaths per million from covid 19 are in those two regions, South Africa is just outside the top 40. If you look at the world map color coded for this it's very obvious. The Western Pacific region, South East Asia region, Eastern Mediterranean region and African Region all much better. It might just be a correlation but I don't think so. I think the WHO region you are in almost determined your fate. All Western Pacific region countries have 14 days mandatory enforced quarantine usually by hotel. Not sure about South East Asian or Eastern Mediterranean or African regions but all of Europe region seems to have adopted 10 days self (voluntary) relaxed quarantine and same goes for the Pan American Health Organization area. If one is to be scientific, next time put the West Pacific WHO office in charge because we will do the job properly. The European and Pan American can just follow and do as they are told ,other areas can work with the West Pacific office. Not going to happen but the failures of the WHO seems to be mostly the regional offices and the countries representing those particular regional offices.
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