Comments by "annoyed aussie" (@annoyedaussie3942) on "Vitamin D, Large scale studies" video.

@hotbit7327 Then look at Victoria Australia, the lockdown was in winter and now just coming into Spring but the drops in cases occured at a consistent rate during the winter part of the lockdown. So that can't be down to summer weather, also other jurisdictions at around the same latitude no out of control outbreaks. Proper lockdown plus testing and tracing works it is undisputable. Every lockdown jurisdiction has far lower cases. You might incorrectly argue that how about Queensland Australia or New Zealand etc. which currently have overall much lower restrictions than Sweden, travel being the exception, well if the virus is contained then restrictions don't have to be harsh other than travel restrictions to reduce the chance of the virus entering and getting out of control. Soft lockdowns only reduce the rate of the spread, the UK has only ever had a soft lockdown with voluntary travel restrictions to this day. The UK has not considered containment to this day so to say containment can't work if it was never attempted and a soft lockdown which allows the virus to spread is I guess a self fulfilling prophecy. You can say 'til the cows come home look these UK measures haven't worked and you are correct but you are not because working means only slowing the rate of spread not attempting to contain and stop spread. I do sort of agree a soft lockdown achieves very little so maybe if you go down that path might as well make it super soft and tell the public directly we are going to allow a certain number of deaths because they can be sacrificed for the good of the collective society.
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@hotbit7327 I did see that analysis before actually and no lockdown country was included. All were soft lockdowns and in Queensland Australia I can assure you medical care is operating normally unlike with the soft lockdown jurisdictions. I expect is normal in other hard lockdown jurisdictions like New Zealand and Taiwan and Thailand and other Australian jurisdictions excluding Victoria. I am confused why anyone wants ongoing soft lockdown , because so far that just leads to a worse situation than a hard lockdown and become virtually disease free although difficult to maintain.
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@hotbit7327 I have tried to find what went wrong in Peru but can't find what it is but think the 3 most likely possibilities are late initial detection on March 7, failure to contact and trace , quarantine failures. On paper Peru's response should have worked just as on paper the initial US response should have worked but we know the US had extremely poor initial detection and contact tracing and the virus was certainly wide spread mid February when Fauci said everything was looking fine. Australia had more official cases than the US at this point in time which we know even by simple logic it wasn't the case. As far as getting out of the problems entire societies must act in solidarity regardless of the path, if you are an open up and don't worry too much advocate so what?, unless the entire population agrees even without government intervention you will be at 50% lockdown, you can't force people to work (if they have means) and to go shopping and to restaurants.
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The problem is it's as John says correlation only. Those who take supplements are likely to take more care generally because someone who doesn't care and is a risk taker will expose themselves to more risk. So that is meaningless to me. The other correlation is that people already infected have lower levels of vitamin D, so unless I am advised that nothing can cause reductions in vitamin D levels, maybe the disease causes the reduction, not the other way around. In fact what I said is just as likely after a couple of minutes research, a cause of low vitamin D can be liver damage and it is believed liver damage can be caused by covid 19. So at the moment the correlation is only a correlation with little evidence either way.
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