Comments by "annoyed aussie" (@annoyedaussie3942) on "Pandemic in Europe and UK" video.

You're right you could just read stuff he shows us and turn off the volume and get a basic idea.
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Hope you are fine, try to take care of yourself.
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You have difficulties even leaving Western Australia now because the government super strict. I am in Queensland so a little less strict and the freedom all Australians has given up with travel is better than being in Europe or anywhere in the Americas.
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@CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl other than some areas in New South Wales and Victoria of course, I think we all have about the same internal restrictions, maybe minor variations with pubs and restaurants that's about all.
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@CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl Interesting, in Queensland it's 1.5m rule which I thought was standard throughout Australia but apparently not. With the legality of border restrictions/quarantine measures there is no argument actually about the interpretation of the constitution which actually has quarantine as one of the issues and Australia already has 20 quarantine zones give or take if you actually looked at every single agricultural quarantine area for every single plant and or fungus. In general it isn't enforced with personal use such as someone hopping on a plane and flying elsewhere in the country with a piece of fruit or a mushroom, it is however enforced very strongly on farmers etc. and they will know the rules in their industry. Quarantine zones of course can pop up in days of any outbreak with say anthrax for example an entire district will be immediately quarantined and all animals tested and destroyed if they have the bacteria. The question therefore is, is the quarantine measure reasonable and if they tried a blanket challenge against WA again I think they will lose , however if the challenge was I as a person in South East Queensland with no cases for sometime would be a high enough risk to refuse entry if I was willing to do 2 weeks quarantine because I want a holiday in Western Australia. WA can argue even with quarantine breaches have occured in VIC, NSW, QLD and WA itself and to produce perfect quarantine is a technical impossibility and any breach could lead to 100's of deaths like Victoria, the counter argument is the probability is so low and WA is being completely unreasonable, then up to the judges to decide if that's reasonable. So I think WA probably is a bit unreasonable but overall not and really who would want to be the judges that helped cause 100 deaths, they would have to be pretty much dead certain this can't occur to rule against WA. So the process will favour the state imposing the quarantine/restrictions.
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You should look at data in Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea and Taiwan ( possibly Germany) where the testing regimes have picked up a far higher proportion of cases. The countries where a very high proportion of real cases were never detected means the case fatality rate looks far worse than it would if most cases detected.
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There is a complete difference because of restrictions. I saw a comment that in Australia my country we had more flu deaths in summer than winter because of the restrictions. Flu deaths are way down in Australia and I would expect the same in most places. If somewhere eliminates all restrictions and leaves the restrictions off then you would expect it would return to a normal pattern, but I don't think that will happen anywhere until a vaccine or truly somewhere gets herd immunity.
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First of all you don't have a harsh lockdown, so is there much point with continous erratic lockdowns with strange rules which are harsh on some? Although I couldn't see the Swedish model working like it does in Sweden maybe a slightly stricter approach than Sweden with enforcement would be better. Otherwise harsh lockdown without holes in it and get rid of the virus which seems completely out of the question, so you are going to live with it, it's just a matter of how.
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@shaunh5316 it is technically possible to eliminate it as many countries have shown , but you need absolute determination with a lockdown as hard as it needs to be. Victoria Australia was having about 500 cases per day and down to 10 now, 5km travel limit , Melbourne surrounded by police checkpoints so that people can't leave the Melbourne area, everything shut but supermarket and fast food delivery, all state borders shut tight with no one getting in or out, 8pm to 5am curfew where you need a permit to be outside your home for essential worker reasons. The virus didn't just go away and I feel for Victorians going through that , but probably feel more for those like UK where there is no light at the end of the tunnel other than a vaccine it would seem. Everyone entering Australia stays in 14 days compulsory hotel quarantine which the UK has never had , with open borders the entire time even during your harsher lockdown. You can never eliminate it with an open border, that is a technical impossibility.
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@shaunh5316 It can be eliminated but just like every other country that has done so it will still re enter because perfect quarantine is an impossibility and have to stop it again, but I would suggest most Australian states and NZ pretty good at getting control of an outbreak quickly now, same with similar countries. One thing that's unknown is if this went on for another year will people still be willing to get tested in large numbers etc. ,plus the localised restrictions again for any outbreak? So there is probably a limit of how many times the public will cooperate. I just hope the optimistic outlook of middle of next year approximately a vaccine will be available fairly widely and highly effective but this is in no way guaranteed, the efficacy of potential vaccines hasn't actually been worked out yet.
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Cases in Florida are about to shoot up I would suggest with no restrictions.
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