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Comments by "annoyed aussie" (@annoyedaussie3942) on "COVID, Infection Fatality Rates" video.
Depends who you mean by we and if you mean any virus well SARS1 and Ebola are easy to stop because nobody asymptomatic. Many countries have shown that stopping the spread is possible but unless completely cutting of travel it can re enter at times even with quarantine which can't be made perfect in a realistic sense. When numbers are low enough it would seem detection of the virus in sewerage is often quicker than a person showing up to get tested as experienced in Australia, so many ways to keep getting on top of it and identifying new outbreaks if they occur.
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Comorbidities and age might very well have a 90% + correlation. If you make it to 85 years old you will probably have something wrong with you. So they can both be correct because they occur in tandem.
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It's better the conspiracy theorists are here because then they aren't learning new conspiracy theories and less likely to become more radical. Also some would be going through a phase and therefore when reality hits them at some point they can adjust more quickly.
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Take care.
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If they just found it now then that makes another easier to transmit strain. For places that have contained the virus it makes it more scary because if it gets into a population with no immunity at all it becomes more and more likely it might be unstoppable.
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The overall rate for the world could be 0.30% as suggested. In Kenya maybe 0.04 due to demographics and a wealthy country 1% or even higher when you consider life expectancy in South Asia is not that much higher than the Kenya number I think and the population there about 1.5 Billion.
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Just watch the Florida Experiment, they have no restrictions and they aren't Sweden. We will see what's going to happen in a month or so. Unfortunately a super spreader event was apparently cancelled, they wanted 90,000 to watch a football game but 21 players were infected so they cancelled it. This would have been a much better spreading event than a Trump rally because of the shear numbers. To any Floridians I mean no offence and take care the best you can, you are unfortunately truly in an experiment.
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Whoever made that decision won't openly admit to it any time soon unless it's just a mortality rating thing.
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It's fundamentally the exact same approach as Taiwan, South Korea, Vietnam, Thailand, Australia and New Zealand. Contact trace chase down anyone with the virus like they are a terrorist, test anyone likely to have come into contact. Japan's Prime Minister got the boot recently and I am guessing to do with failures in this area and if you look on worldometer their cases currently on the rise, hopefully they gain control again. One thing Europeans and Americans don't get is you must have compulsory quarantine for anyone entering the country.
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@abajojoe you noted Australia versus Japan mortality, that just indicates success levels that's all and if you eliminate one Australian state from the data , Victoria, Australia would look far better than Japan. If you look at the Singaporean statistics without knowing the reason behind it you would be more amazed than the Japanese situation. The reason Singapore has such a low CFR is because it ripped through the foreign worker community because they stayed in crowded dorm rooms and they will be of working age and therefore low risk, they were extremely successful about stopping the spread amongst the Singaporean population and protecting the elderly. I don't know where that 50% infected at some point in central Tokyo comes from and seems wrong, however given the verified case numbers the death toll is very low which to me indicates probably the same general story as Singapore and they protected the vulnerable well. Japan's obesity rate is a fairly unbelievable number of 4.3% as of 2016 meaning far less comorbidities than other countries. To give a reference to other countries Sweden 20% , Australia 30% , USA 36% . So most likely a combination of a fitter population and protecting the elderly explains the low CFR.
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@philipbrown394 John didn't say Japan had reached herd immunity, I think he said it's a possibility but it isn't a possibility at all. They have managed to get it partially under control and one would think the Prime Minister getting the boot in the last week might have something to do with the handling of this matter. Far East countries as you call us like my country Australia use good old fashioned draconian measures, border restrictions with forced quarantines , lockdowns as required, chasing down any covid biohazard ( human who might be infected) as if they are a terrorist or something (referred to as contact tracing). Test sewerage for virus to find any undetected terror cell (community with biohazard walking around). Japan is a bit less draconian on the surface because of a very compliant population , not like the inbred descendants of convicts like Australia.
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@philipbrown394 Well the hope is herd immunity through a vaccine, if you look at East Asia plus South East Asia plus Australasia we have had far less than 1% of of our combined populations of about 2,000,000,000 exposed . With no effective vaccine we are still at day 1 other than Indonesia and Philippines at day 2 so in theory as has been argued with no effective vaccine although we have done well now it might account for very little in the long run. China can continue on as normal actually because they never had a high population in percentage terms traveling to start with. Let's hope within a year a good vaccine that can be widely distributed.
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