Comments by "annoyed aussie" (@annoyedaussie3942) on "Pandemic, Australia, US, UK" video.

Yep and 400,000 of them ironically are in there on health offences as in drugs which causes no direct harm to others.
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@vietnam1978 It's a state issue, my opinion is that certain other states are far stricter.
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@rebeccafowler7074 It's actually good news, just remember the cases of the Queensland girls who went to Victoria and infected some when they returned back to Queensland went undetected for about 2 weeks and took a while to contain. This seems like it is similar but contact tracing has improved a lot since then . High cases quickly is good even if you look at the Victorian lockdown Mark II cases should go up when failures start to be rectified. I don't know details but one current case was in QLD but not for a long period. They understandably want to keep privacy unless they are offenders lying to authorities or breaking rules substantially , so often things seem mysterious.
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Well we fall into 2 categories, Melbournians and others. Melbournians were like the people being flogged in the town square as an example to others, us others are there is no way in hell we want that situation in our town or city and Melbournians certainly don't want it again.
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@maureenrhysjones4643 I like to have a sense of humour about it and truly as one of about 10 nations on the planet of 5 million plus population give or take that are truly containment , wipe it out again sort of countries we have done well. We fight the virus with our brains like our fellow travelers not some other method like being cannon fodder to achieve herd immunity.
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@MFranklinstein-vw2tn No vaccine provides immunity to all people and they generally wear off over time, so when the data becomes available you could find out and depends how you define immunity. Truth is everyone has had vaccines before and never questioned the efficacy. Could you tell me the efficacy of any vaccine off the top of your head?
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Close borders to all foreigners, lockdown properly get cases to 0. Forced quarantine at border 14 days plus 10 days at their cost if refuse to be tested. Institute large fines and preferably prison time for major offences. All the measures I state are common to China, Taiwan, Thailand, Vietnam, Australia and New Zealand. Maybe slight variations but the 14 days enforced quarantine at the border and lockdowns as appropriate is 100% required. Nowhere else will do this now because the vaccines are coming out, but I suspect not getting cases to 0 will cause ongoing problems especially if the vaccines only work 6 months or so which is unknown.
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@RadhE-ug6on Hope you don't blame Queensland as the origin lol.
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But Australia has had 10 times the imported cases, so more chances of quarantine breaches. My state Queensland has imported twice as many cases as Taiwan and a population of 5 million. Taiwan has done great of course but the systems in Australia are different and different states to be blunt have operated on different standards although much less difference now. Fortunately higher standards have won the day overall and any state that has an outbreak due to incompetence will have it's government deeply criticized.
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You just made your own point and answered your question. Airlines were busy in a covid 19 relative sense remember so it was as you say the same behaviour all over the US.
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It's an American strain this time Victoria a while ago was an English strain. New South Wales has great contact tracing but quarantine measures have probably been the worst in Australia with serious non excusable failures still happening. I expect this latest will be such a failure but maybe not.
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@mrsmerily you take care and I hope your country can do it again but stand firm this time and just say no , no matter the pressure.
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@tomjohnson4681 Are you going to invade Australia? Not sure what I need a gun for, Australia is safe from " mostly Peaceful protestors" and other types. Also covid 19 free with occasional quarantine breaches is a good place to be.
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@redstwok1123 I tend to agree with you about implementing quarantine right now in the US being a sort of waste of time, however if Hawaii, Alaska and Puerto Rico did it in the new year it would make sense. These are all geographically isolated (no road connections) and fairly low populations. I am thinking 14 days mandatory enforced quarantine or 2 shots of any of the approved/ emergency approved vaccines. It might mean nurses and others in the healthcare sector including workers like janitor are the first holiday makers and that's not a bad thing if it occurs.
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28 days no cases is elimination, but quarantine breach that area goes back to 0. Everywhere has had 28 days virus free and currently just the outbreak in Northern Beaches Council area and many local government areas in South Australia counting the days again. Queensland requires an area to be case free for 28 days to travel into Queensland without mandatory enforced 14 days hotel quarantine. So it's not about the weather, in my state Queensland has had about 1,200 cases or so with 800 or so imported and found in quarantine. The virus would spread like wildfire regardless of season in a state of 5,000,000 with everything open and virtually no restrictions other than interstate travel as I stated above. All of Australia is the same other than Northern Beaches which obviously has significant restrictions.
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Hope it all goes ok for you. The worst part is being so close to Christmas because can't stop travel very easily on Christmas Day and it could spread around Sydney area. Really bad for those that planned to go interstate.
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@snells-window What you said is exactly why we won't have a problem. In the containment and elimination countries time is measured in hours not weeks and the public are not forgiving. Also the public will cooperate with all measures or at least 90% of people.
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