Comments by "annoyed aussie" (@annoyedaussie3942) on "Vox" channel.

You need a lesson in either geography or economics, Australia, New Zealand and Singapore are on par with Taiwan thanks. Ok Singapore started with what is commonly known as the Swedish approach however they managed to keep it out of the older population and few died because when it ran through a large number of migrant workers not many died because of age mostly I am guessing. Singapore did change it's approach obviously. Also check which countries are in Western Pacific region of WHO and compare to PAHO Pan-American Health Organization and European WHO region countries, it appears the approaches were mostly determined by these offices , it's only the Western Pacific region which has 14 days mandatory enforced usually hotel quarantine, the other 2 regions all 10 days voluntary quarantine and the results show.
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They often have better stuff. Many years ago I stayed with a heroin addict, he was trying to go clean but couldn't and ended up suiciding which was hard to see. He always had brand name stuff. One thing I found after his death was basically a map of where he purchased drugs. I gave this to the police and I am pretty sure it was useful.
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500 cases a day is incredibly high, only 3 cities ever get back to 0 after that, Wuhan China, Melbourne Australia and Singapore. In fact when Melbourne was having great problems the total number of cases in Canada was about 400 per day, I am from Brisbane Australia and my feeling at the time was my gosh I think Canada is going to get rid of it and Melbourne is looking pretty stuffed. Obviously I was wrong and until Taiwan has 0 community cases for at least 2 weeks they are only weeks away from complete disaster as we have seen in other countries if they decide to reopen without enough caution.
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 @deadspeedv The US protectionists don't want our cheap beef and probably other items you might not think of. It'll be interesting if Trump wants to tax foreign mineral commodities.
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Unfortunately neither of your political parties wanted containment and that was the consensus in the US. So in a way it wasn't political as the main point actually had consensus. Containment means closed state borders and taking it seriously. Time will tell if containment was worth it or not.
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@DSQueenie it's a matter of degree or reasonableness I think. In most countries the opposing political parties might argue about things like government assistance payments. But also most countries both political parties don't have any major disagreement on the actions needed to contain the virus. The US as I have pointed out earlier in the thread had both political parties in agreement with a "she'll be right" attitude to state border restrictions, this however seems to be changing at least with NY starting to insist on 14 days quarantine for air travellers. If it's not enforced it won't work , so yet to see effect. The open and major disagreements on other issues in the US are significant. But without every thing required it will fail. One requirement is interstate controls.
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@murtagh862 it also follows if you've got stuff and are comfortable why work. Welfare is important but it shouldn't be a comfortable lifestyle.
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Here's a question to all in this thread. How are you lucky if you live in either PAHO Pan-American Health Organization region or European region of WHO? The reason I ask is because they collectively killed about 0.2% of their population due to those WHO regions deciding that open borders with only 10 days voluntary quarantine is the way to go? An alternate question how is Vietnam and the Philippines unlucky when they belong to the Western Pacific region of WHO where we (I am Australian) decided that containment was a better policy without travel freedoms and enforced 14 days mandatory quarantine usually in a hotel with a regional death toll per capita about 1% that of the 2 other regions I mentioned in the first question? I am lucky to have both, being in a wealthy country and my region, however getting vaccines is relatively slow compared to wealthy countries in the failed response regions because impossible to justify us getting a high priority.
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I agree the charts are problematic, the number of confirmed deaths per capita in countries of similar probability of confirmation of cases (high income countries grouped together for example) would be the most accurate I would think but still could not be called highly accurate.
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