Comments by "annoyed aussie" (@annoyedaussie3942) on "New Zealand takes tougher stance on China's human rights record | DW News" video.

@Kevin-cw8of We have a trade stick bigger than any other individual country. At the current rate of steel production China needs our iron ore. Australia produces over 50% of the internationally traded iron ore and China buys 69 % of the internationally traded iron ore, Brazil comes in at 20% So in a hot trade war if Brazil and Australia sanction China by stopping iron ore exports China's economy in it's current form will collapse.
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He wasn't sure who they are, Canada and UK, you would think he would know sounded like an Irish accent and the UK is a pretty big and close neighbour.
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Xandrew Xandrew I hope you read my edit on previous comment. So ok it's about power and whoever has the most power has the right to bully according to you. Australia doesn't take this position, unfortunately we did it on one occasion on one product to Indonesia however it was short lived and an error. Australia won't do that to our trading partners whether or not they are more or less powerful, if we slapped trade sanctions on a country everytime we had a disagreement on something we would have a lot of trade sanctions happening.
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@fatdoi003 That's just common sense, I am certain China wouldn't allow some big US company run their 5g network. I do think we could have been a little more diplomatic when saying no but the decision to say no is the correct one. Huawei isn't banned just not for the public 5g network. Imagine if at the flick of a switch another country who you are not certain about had the power to shut down communications and cause absolute chaos, it would only be 3 days or so and people don't have money because it's all electronic and banks would be incapable of going back to manual.
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Xandrew Xandrew We do criticise all , Australia is openly calling for an end to the death penalty for example, China , USA and Iran are the countries that like to kill their citizens so clearly we are free to speak and do.
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Xandrew Xandrew We haven't sanctioned anyone, China has sanctioned Australia. Edit: clearly talk against China isn't cheap, even having a free media is considered an offence against China , it was actually listed as a grievance the unfavorable reporting of Australian media to China, yet on a daily basis our media reports unfavourably on own own governments both state and federal.
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Xandrew Xandrew Australia actually takes a quiet approach generally and sticks to our region, for the most part if the issue is further away than ASEAN or East Asia we don't get involved at all, however we do support the US and follow them into any major conflict regardless where it might be. The whole world and all countries including your beloved China have bias in who they criticise. China as you would be aware criticises Australia more than the US , a definite bias in favour of the US.
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@maddoo23 The coal one is misleading that was just protectionism applied slightly unequally. Trade sanctions on Cotton, Barley, Wine, Timber, Beef and Lobsters. Designed to make sure every state of Australia feels pain, a divide and conquer strategy by hoping the state Premiers suggest a different course, 2 state Premiers did actually speak in favour of Australia taking a softer approach so it partially worked, but it didn't work, no change in position federally. Another was although it means nothing now because of covid 19 saying Australia is dangerous because of racists and that maybe people shouldn't study here. Chinese citizens tend to follow what the government says so I expect when things open up again we will get less Chinese students.
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@rawword What are you talking about?
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@rawword What are you talking about?
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@rawword Read my statement again, it's a statement of fact with no suggestion about what should trigger or even that Australia should make the trade war hot. China is being a bully and Australia has put 0 retaliatory tariffs in place. My statement is no different to saying the Chinese military is bigger than Australia and they have nuclear weapons and in a one on one battle China will beat Australia. Read that statement, does it sound like I am suggesting China should invade Australia? If the answer is no then read my original statement again and ask am I suggesting that Australia should initiate a hot trade war?
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@rawword yes Trump started a trade war, nothing to do with Australia actually, we had to do some very fast diplomatic talking so the US didn't hit us with tariffs at the time, China was not the only target with Trump , everyone was. Decoupling is just a slogan and China was talking about decoupling from Australia at least 15 years ago regarding iron ore. This certainly predates all the stuff you are talking about, Australia wasn't at all thinking about doing anything with China one way or another at the time. I am not saying Australia is perfect as I said we could be a little more subtle but other than that we are taking the right approach. You believe agressive actions by China are the right approach, well that's your opinion. Australia has it's ally the US back again, it's up to China if they want to ignore the one that they said they want to talk to. The US has said sort out trade issues with Australia then they will talk on trade issues. The ball is in China's court.
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@petersinclair3997 We could form OIOEC (organization of iron ore exporting countries, has a nice familiar tone to it) just us and Brazil and South Africa and Canada can join if they want , that would be 80% of all exported iron ore if they all join.
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Watch CGTN for a while and read the comments, you will understand how China thinks.
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@maddoo23 Yes that's correct, to the extent it applies to the public 5g network. I don't know where you are from but would you be happy if another country who you know not to be honest, South China Sea military bases and one country 2 systems until 2047 changed to no one system will do , had such power that at the flick of a switch they could shut down pretty much your country, shut down communications and banking will cease immediately, obviously financial markets cease . Think how many days of cash does the average person have, banks can't switch back to manual transactions. Would Beijing allow a US company to have such power inside China? Ok Australia could have said it more diplomatic but banning Huawei from the public 5g network was and is the right thing to do. As far as spying Chinese CPC loyalists say China is the only G20 nation that has never and will never spy on another country. China is full of angels I guess , I know Australia carries out covert surveillance as do all other G20 nations.
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@maddoo23 very first line of my last response said we ban Huawei from the public 5g network, there is no outright ban. Tomorrow I personally can order a private 5g network if I could afford it. China said why they decide to start trade war with us , or as reported " if Australia wants to make an enemy of China , China will be that enemy" that's not at all in dispute, 14 grievances. Pretty strong wording, we don't call China our enemy but they say we are the enemy. Anyway what is my dishonest statement, I am unaware?
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@maddoo23 The covid 19 investigation arguably tops the list of the 14 grievances, China made it clear that this was definitely an item involved in their decision. So not dishonest maybe lacking in clarity if you want to say that. Huawei isn't a sanction, no more than it would be a sanction if China was contracting for their 5g network in the free market ( which probably doesn't exist for that in China) and stated that all electronic equipment must come from China. That's a national security issue. Just as I said before coal was protectionist not a trade sanction. Banning or restricting something for a reason is not a trade sanction. A trade sanction is the only purpose is to hurt the other country, no other reason.
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Why are you complaining, it means more trade with Vietnam?
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