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Comments by "annoyed aussie" (@annoyedaussie3942) on "Brian Stelter: Tucker Carlson’s coworkers are embarrassed by his rhetoric" video.
@DvonAntonio Socialism covers a wide spread of ideas, all that different socialist ideologies have in common is the government interfering with outright free market. The far right are socialist, but they direct socialism to creating big corporations and protecting those corporations from trade as in protectionist, this is the US way actually and China is doing the same. The US has a poor record on social welfare.
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@equious8413 what would you consider the National Socialist German Workers Party, left or right? What would you call protectionism as in trade tariffs , left or right and is it a socialist action? Both far left and far right support protectionism. Protectionism is directly controlling the means of production as in socialist I would suggest. Did you ever wonder why many Bernie Sanders supporters actually supported Trump over Hillary? Well I would suggest because of those protectionist leanings. Both far right and left are also quite happy to subsidize non economical production in one way or another.
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They use the same techniques as the Communist Party of China and for the select audience they are just as successful.
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@equious8413 no party or country is completely socialist or having no Socialism, such a system doesn't exist except for arguably North Korea is 90% + socialist because the government control almost everything completely. The start of welfare for the masses which was the old age pension was generally about 100 years ago for many countries.
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@Hayle Seyton a communist is a full on socialist especially if truly pure communism where the government controls everything. Communists believe in public ownership of everything and everybody is required to work for the state , everything gets distributed evenly. In other words much like the Soviet Union was. A moderate socialist is basically what you find in especially northern Europe government has significant involvement in running things and provides good social services but not against capitalism , just capitalism must fit within that context. Limited socialism is the system in Australia or US as in a bit more towards free market and a more limited welfare safety net at least in theory, low levels of industry protection and high levels of economic freedom. The economic freedom index to me is the best guide available of how socialist a country is, it's not a perfect guide for that as it includes corruption for example which isn't really socialist or not. I think that's really a US thing using communist and socialist completely interchangeably , in Australia I think most people wouldn't do that.
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@equious8413 simple definition of Socialism is controlling the means of production [by the government] so I don't agree, I am happy with that definition.
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@equious8413 don't be grumpy, ok so you are interested in possibly an Australian type system where socialism is directed to the needy, obviously being Australian I agree with you. I didn't know what type of socialism you would prefer until just now and seems if you are being genuine maybe you would be ok cutting subsidies to business to pay for social welfare although that's not needed that much, the US for example spends more on public healthcare than Australia yet life expectancy is 5 years lower in the US and it seems your public healthcare isn't entirely universal. The other thing is saying you are on the left doesn't mean all that much centre right and centre left are closer together than they are to the extreme of their own side. I am guessing you are towards the centre but not sure.
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@equious8413 you taught me a new acronym UBI, which I guess you mean something like what we call the dole in Australia, a payment for the unemployed that doesn't have many conditions to it and never gets cut off.
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@equious8413 ok , yes I did assume you were American. I don't know much about Canada but assumed it to be somewhat closer to Australia than the US as far as how the government operates and the overall general position on things.
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@equious8413 ok so UBI is a concept of something more substantial than the dole and more along the lines of a low but comfortable income if one doesn't work. I don't see automation as a big problem but transitions can be a problem like truckers for example will become redundant in high income countries in the not so distant future, the technology already exists to replace them. I think a bigger concern in some countries is the extreme wealth of some and big gap as in someone worth $100 billion , that's bigger than many countries and too powerful, not sure what the answer is but maybe a death tax of 50% or something for everything over $10 billion, kids getting a billion each minimum should be ok. In reality they might give money away before they die but that's just as good as long as some redistribution occurs. I don't think this has become an issue in many countries yet but I think it's already an issue in the US and a few other countries.
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@equious8413 I have to say your comment of 99% taxation is pretty radical, however the point that nobody needs more than $1 billion to survive is certainly valid but again outlawing it is not really an option.
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