Comments by "Asbestos Muffins" (@AsbestosMuffins) on "Plainly Difficult" channel.

  1. This ,the Kobe Steel quality scandal and a few other Japanese industrial scandals all seemed to come out around the same time and could be some content on this channel someday too. They all basically had their roots in the lost decade, japanese corporate culture, and the loss of a quality focused company culture as well as a healthy amount of corruption and coverups
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  2. ah yet another case of "Dude where's my Gamma Ray Source?"
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  3. "He worked his 13th straight 7 day week." Lesson: Don't do this Modern Businesses: "7 day weeks constantly you say?"
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  4. "The company sent employees to meet with the epa and gave them a script to follow, they instead flipped and blew the whistle." gee I wonder how that could have happened, why wouldn't they just commit felonies like good loyal employees?
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  5. if you're gonna cover refinery explosions you'll be at this for a few more years, especially since huston makes one every year
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  6. "Some workers observed slab deflecture of up to 2 feet" me noping the fuck out of there
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  7. man I've worked with enough finicky automated conveyors to know the pain these guys faced with shitty equipment. They should have built containers that couldn't burst in the machinery
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  8. Almost seems like there should have been a mechanical interlock to drop the source if the door was opened while the pneumatic cylinder is retracted or some kind of gate by the end of the maze to trip the mechanical failsafe if the source was still out of the pool
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  9. ya that's the creepy part, these guys know they're going to die and have a matter of hours before their bodies start reacting to the trauma so they can walk out of these facilities 'fine' and give interviews before dying to radiation poisoning
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  10.  @nigelft  most doctors probably aren't really accustomed to knowing for absolute certainty someone is going to die. Taking as much radiation as he did, he absolutely was going to die, but there was probably only a handful of doctors who had ever treated similar patients
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  11. once again a door, a radiation sign, an industrial irradiation source, and night shift
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  12. called it! also WHY WOULD YOU EVER STEP INTO SOMETHING CALLED AN IRRADIATOR
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  13.  @Paultimate7  idk, I think putting a big pit in the ground instead of a door interlock was a very smart feature considering how easily western designed door seitchesfailed in every single irradiator incident, and the irradiator doesn't seem to have quite the same jamming issues the other systems have. the control panel was probably where this broke down because you had no real way to look at the problem
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  14. I see this and the Ashtabula Horror have the same root cause, a developer that ignores the design of everybody around them and gets away with it right up until they didn't
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  15.  @volvo09  tbf, most substances aren't damn near impossible to handle and changing states in the process but their solution to reheat the barrel was incredibly dumb, instead of setting the thing aside for more level heads to fix
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  16.  @graafisk  the emission of these cars was like 20x what it should be. the cars in those fields were leftovers that didn't get fixed, or resold, and many were flood cars that got damaged in the hurricane harvey flood. Letting them drive around for 20 years would have gone well beyond what it cost the environment to manufacture them
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  17.  @CristiNeagu  chernobyl was a planned bypass of safety systems without access to the technical and incidental knowledge of instability at low power levels in rbmks which having been known ahead of time would have prevented the test from going forward, probably. The Iowa turret explosion was the result of the same situation where someone planned a dangerous test and operators left to carry it out were ignorant of the dangers as well as poorly trained
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  18. might be writing with a bit of hindsight like all those people who insist they knew the titanic was doomed
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  19. Sampoong kills 500 people: "We'll sign everything over and go to jail." Sacklers kill >50,000: "here's 1/4th of our wealth, we didn't do anything, we're not going to jail, we're also going to need immunity from charges." God bless freedomland because we can't seem to hold people accountable
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  20. I still keep getting notices for a car that I totalled a decade ago, kind of silly really.
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  21. in this instance the reports focused on the actual weight not the output, this was a very large building
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  22. what about Radioactive Asbestos?
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  23. there's just so many stupid decisions that went into that fire, there's a lot to cover, most of them revolving around treating workers much the same way amazon does but without government regulations saying you have to do things like give them stairways and fire doors
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  24. he didn't even mention that the report says several beams were compromised as well to put the escalator banks in and later retrofitting for fire code
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  25. its not the debt from the post war boom its the shrinking of the economy and its growth. italy and many of the western european countries had double didget gdp growth for that period of the 50s and 60s before grinding to a halt and shrinking down to anemic levels for decades
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  26. might as well have given a nuclear source to cavemen
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  27.  @RCAvhstape  I've worked enough places to understand that safety comes from the top, and if management has a culture of ignoring it then people will get killed or maimed until its enforced. even basic ppe is ignored if management doesn't enforce it
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  28. always love how these photographs from these sits are terribly unlit to the point where you can't even tell what happened... huh.
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  29. really makes the entire drug war pointless and depressingly terrible given it hadn't really taken off yet in 1969
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  30.  @bdf2718  if they had a chemical engineer on staff, he should have tipped the chemist into the mixer for even suggesting something so ridiculously stupid
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  31.  @colincampbell767  green energy is not, has not been, and isn't going to be texas's problem, they have a massive sprawling population and refuse to do anything long term like lowering energy consumption, connecting their grid to out-of-state generators, or do anything to reduce urban-heating feedback. there's plenty of spare on demand generation capacity in the country, its just they're trying to let the magical free market deal with long term planning, also its a bit ironic complaining about supposed green energy corruption when every politician in texas is deeply in the pocket of big oil
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  32.  @ianmacfarlane1241  plus all the disinformation regarding nukes back then, these were simple fishermen, even PHD scientists were being misdirected by governments trying to downplay the effects of nuclear weapons
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  33. "Hey I know, lets run the reactor with no coolant!" "You're fired."
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  34.  @brettsalling  if they had scrammed early in the disaster, let the reactor cool off and reset they could have later brought it up to power
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  35. goes to show that even a very controlled closed system like this has edge cases where things fail spectacularly
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  36. I think we have the technology today and do this but not really in the 1990s and if we did we probably weren't using it on Georgia, as we had a bit more of a problem in Kazakhstan and Ukraine
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  37. Having listened to Lions Lead by Donkeys episode on Georgia, I'm actually shocked they had the resources to even find the radioactive materials
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  38. if the symptoms of severe glaucoma or phantom limb syndrome are guides, you'd be swimming in hallucinations and false sensory feedback since the brain isn't capable of shutting off those parts when the limbs/nerves fail, so they just go crazy
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  39. well, it is a research reactor
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  40. but florida is a shining example to the rest of america
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  41.  @poiiop2626  its not even that far off from workers in the US, especially the older guys. I haven't seen it personally but every place I've worked in always has had that guy that jammed the interlocks to use the equipment faster and gets caught
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  42.  @m0314700308891515  makes you sleep great knowing china has more nuclear infrastructure than japan and are a hell of a lot worse than japan in every regard that caused this incident
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  43. a condo collapse in florida? it would never happen today!
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  44. pressure from management can get a lot of things done, including things that ought not to be done
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  45. about as close to the Dr No nuclear reactor as ever built. Seems James Bond would have been killed in the first movie
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  46. There's a guy named Bob, we'll be making him into an AI someday but his head's on ice right now
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  47.  @colincampbell767  train derails, spills 50,000 gallons, pipeline leaks, spills 50,000 gallons an hour
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  48.  @jasonhaynes2952  bought one from Ikea, had nearly enough uranium to go critical
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  49. harold was the most american man in the world, being made of more america than anyone else, ever
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  50.  @TwoTreesStudio  A lot of these machines are getting better and better at doing more with less and the older machines are being phased out too. Its really an IAEA problem that we didn't make the warning signs universal enough and have an actual chain of custody for these sources until they're recycled. Fortunately they finally have moved to a sign that tries to better communicate how flipping deadly these things are but chain of custody is still the biggest issue in these incidents
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  51. this thing is forgotten by todays politicians but it was a disaster affecting multiple states, none of which had enough money to fix up such a massive problem
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  52.  @TVdinnermasterchef  for most stuff not much, but as someone who was working in the aerospace industry it set off a scramble to figure out if we had ever made any part using metal products from Kobe or any of its subsidiaries. They basically just forged quality certs for something like 20 years. I don't know if anyone ever actually got hurt but it was pretty bad for the industries they sold products to
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  53. saw a guy get his finger degloved because he stuck his hand up a pipe to clean out a blockage instead of getting a cleanout tool and sticking it down the cleanout slot a few inches above the opening. Kind of glad I'm not on a factory floor anymore because you're right, workers will take the quick way every time, and thats sometimes the wrong way to do it.
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  54. Just what in the hell were they thinking when they took a bucket to mix radioactive material
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  55. shit you can appreciate the thickness of soviet era housing when the rest of the house hold wasn't immediately killed because the walls were thick enough to partially shield it
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  56. they just waited so long to start doing anything while the reactors kept heating up
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  57.  @mikehall3976  in the year of our lord 2022, we can't even run trains on electricity even though the costs would be nothing
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  58. when you take plane, make it big, then splat two into each other. I always think this might be a factor why nobody flies these big of planes anymore, like nobody seemed to be able to grapple with what could happen when two fully loaded and filled 747s hit each other
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  59.  @naughtiusmaximus830  its not apples to apples though and their high speed rail is basically unsustainable on all but the earliest lines
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  60. its actually a little better knowing the dog head stuff for the film was probably staged. its not something you want to just stumble upon on the internet without context
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  61. cool, I think this is the only melted down reactor you can actually go and see, other than chernobyl I guess
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  62. "A central agency that was over night dissolved" Thanks Milton Friedman, you had a once in a generation opportunity to transition half the world to sustainable governments and market economies, but instead you forced the former communist countries to privatize and dismantle their state economies over night
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  63. "Lets run a low coolant, high power test" "Steve.... lets not melt the reactor today."
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  64.  @unvergebeneid  airbus came about not through british but french and german consolidation, and RR would have their own problems on commerical jets such as the lockheed tristar
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  65. That's not just any lawyer, that's Ralph Nadder, the guy who took on GM and the Big Three and is still oddly villified on the right for some reason
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  66. I wonder if at this point there ought to be a bit in the manual for these things that says "put a stick in the beam first and see if it explodes first."
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  67. what do you do when your reactor keeps scramming? Keep spamming the override of course
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  68. the interesting thing is that the earlier procedure was very targeted, it was the later lobotomy procedure that was used so casually because it was relatively easy to pull off since they indiscriminately shaved off parts of the brain
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  69. Wow that's incredibly dumb and tragic. They essentially Homer Simpson problem solved on a chemical refinery
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  70. I remember the c130 stunt was deamed practical but so extremely dangerous as to never do it again
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  71. burn it, burn it, burn it all down!
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  72. not only is the gas corrosive, its radioactive!
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  73. How dare those women pocket scraps of cloth! think of the money we're loosing
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  74. in a vacuum, yes but the 20th century would have many worse 'experiments' conducted on humans sadly.
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  75.  @mirandapanda5439  do Nazi stuff to babies like surgically experimenting on them in concentration camps
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  76. and yet in the US impact was relatively limited because of our robust fda regulation system. Good thing we have patriots like grover norquest who's gotten people to murder regulations
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  77. Da not comrade, here is key to army base, remember not to leave Geiger counters on. I am off now to buy adidas track suit, as we are now all capitalists.
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  78. why do we keep building parabolic buildings clad in glass! they gotta teach this shit in architecture school
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  79. seems like it would have been better to just move everybody out of the town and build another town somewhere else
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  80. tbf the majority of dam disasters happened in the first half of the 20th century, today its exceedingly rare for a dam collapse from construction faults
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  81. Hey my old boss was the site manager at this place, he was such an a$$hole
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  82. like said in the video, the hanford site's similar reactor was water cooled and couldn't melt down in the same way. they only built this really because the US wouldn't share anything from the manhatten project till the late 50s
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  83. I'm not sure I'd rate this that high on the severity scale, its absolutely a milestone in aircraft safety and rightly deserves its place on the legacy scale, but air travel at the time wasn't nearly safe enough to make this that much of an outlier. there were accidents from other manufacturers at the time with as much loss of life, its just the comet was being pushed out so rapidly and was such a prestige project
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  84. well, the problem was eugenics put the cart before the horse. we know today with our genetic tools and massive computational and statistical capabilities, that there really isn't this hypethetical superman. Human biology could be improved slightly by removing certain risk factors for diseases but there's not really much we can do to make people smarter, stronger, and overall healthier purely by selective breeding or genetic engineering.
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  85.  @MrHellknightimp  relative differences. Humans aren't really that different in capabilities. Much of the differences in height and build comes from nutrition instead of genetics, as evidences by rising average heights in developing countries and plateaued heights in developed ones, and skin color really is about the most superficial genetic difference that people get hung up over. A black person has the same internal organs as an asian, and the same internal organs as a white person. its just a few genes changing the color of pigment the skin produces.
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  86. and my state's emissions check system learned nothing and went back to OBDI only testing data after reverting to tailpipe testing for a year when this broke. Like they still have the dyno and testing equipment there but since no car made before obdi needs to be emission checked anymore they decided its still not worth actually testing cars
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  87. about as stupid as today's crop of coal munching, chemical waste promoting republicans. blame government if you want but its specifically government officials that don't care about the environment that lets things like this happen
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  88. kind of a 10, we learned a lot but then again, a brain isn't a heart or liver and experimenting on those organs might have gleamed as much of a lesson anyways. Someone will try this in the immediate future though, probably in either russia or china
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  89. man AECL must have been run by some truly deranged 80s cokeheads
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  90. 9:28 You've got some very creepy monkeys there
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  91. "The silos wouldn't survive a direct hit but their spacing allowed for some to launch." Man that'd be the ultimate dice roll I guess
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  92. "The real diamonds were switched out and a fake wall was constructed with a small army of police behind it." lemme guess, there was a chief inspector back there to shout "Lupin, I got you now!"
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  93. the most evil of spicy rocks
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  94. of course tunnels would be single tracked because PSR demands degredation of rail infrastructure
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  95. On the plus side, at least they didn't have to look very far for the warhead, usually that's the hard part
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  96. glad they didn't do the typical soviet thing of doubling and tripling down on this. the next time they probably would have blown the core up
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  97. 1957 was not a safe year to be a nuclear scientist
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  98.  @danielduncan6806  not strictly true, pylon mounted engines eventually won out for their ease of upgrade and ease of maintenance. the brits kept on the integrated engine though with their V-Bombers
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  99. ya leiberman, so concerned about children's mental health but not concerned enough that he blocked public healthcare for said children. gotta love fanatical centrists, they stand for everything they also stand against
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  100. I'm not sure cost was exactly the factor because they did build 15 pwr reactors throughout the rest of ukraine, but an RBMK can also be easily converted into a breeder reactor
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  101. the audio editing on this one sounds a little wonkey but great as usual
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  102. you'd have thought since they were already using nuclear weapons they'd have considered using plutonium heaters like nasa later would use, guess it came a few years too early
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  103. not sure what's worse, that they did this, or that the powers that be seemed to have known about it almost immediately. Also why the hell was nuclear waste just sold off
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  104. these pictures look exactly like the mill I workes in, except unlike this place it was salt so the dust was actually a fire retardant but man everything looks the same. funny enough my quality manager told me that our site was one of the cleaner ones which only probably was that way because we had really good dust collectors and dedicated cleaning staff
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  105. these guys were absolutely lucky
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  106. Having read some books on this, the sad part about this is that it just took soooooo long for people to get in there and figure out what to do. there didn't seem to have been any consideration for what to do in case of a total tank rupture and nobody had a plan in place to deal with it though at that point I guess it would have been to prepare for a total vehicle explosion
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  107. not that its exactly their fault but you'd think the supplier would have put more thought into jams
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  108. 2 years to build a super carrier
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  109. its ok, union carbide got bought by dupont and they take safety seriously, except that time they released chemical weapons in WV, or those decades it took for them to poison all of the world with tefflon ....
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  110. "Oh shit we scrammed the reactor." "Great, so what do we do about not crashing?"
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  111. man had this thing been finished it would have collapsed the next time a hurricane hit florida
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  112.  @centurion1945  ya that's true, that probably explains why these are all in black and white, at least the newer times
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  113. then it all melted down because its LA and its 130 F there (54 C)
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  114. not quite chernobyl but it does seem like they could have found a better place to stick their giant cyanide pond besides next to one of romania's major rivers
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  115. the nrx seemed to have been responsibly dealt with.
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  116. I don't even understand why he didn't take the key with him, it didn't really save any time since he had to go around all these things
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  117. the east coast in the early 1900s was a breeding ground for this sort of movement to meld science to religious dogma, which took the world down a dark path for a while, got bombed to oblivion, then resurrected in the 1980s and we are increasingly mired in
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  118. then the combined trains went super critical and melted down
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  119. plus if you look on a map, they can do 100 mph to the facility if they wanted to, its completely empty
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  120. Moral of the story, don't use concrete as a cable just use a cable. 51 years on the University of Florida pedestrian bridge made the same mistake because we don't learn
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  121. god damn if it were possible all staffing on nuclear or irradiation facilities should be larger than day shift because that's always when these accidents happen
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  122. they wrote up a procedure to turn off all the safeties and turn off the cooling system, then left it for night shift to run...
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  123. Seems like they should have put a portcullis on the other side of the drawbridge
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  124. they didn't even need a dam there just something to delay a surge in the river
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  125. they just did not put radios on trains even in the 50s
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  126. Florida Man strikes again!
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  127. huh so the soviet equivalent of upshot grable.
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  128. man it was a crappy life in the navy back then "you 125 men stand on this rock and don't get shot, btw we'll get back to you in a few years."
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  129. Costs to rebuild the curve to accomidate the service: 200 million Costs to put up a sign: 100$ (probably)
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  130. ah yes, right next to the native american reservation is the perfect place to store large amounts of uranium waste. nobody (who lines the pockets of politicians) will be bothered if something goes wrong
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  131. USA: We're gonna have to test this to destruction to see what happens when it comes down USSR: WHAT'S THAT, I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF THE ROCKET LAUNCH
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  132. Wow this is actually a very stupid mistake
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  133.  @Damien.D  its the pressure to keep running. Reactors as I understand it, once they become poisoned enough to shut down they require a lot of time to bring back up to power
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  134. shrapnel bags to kill you harder!
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  135. an interesting what-if because of this VW abandoned its diesel hybrid vehicle projects completely, something they were a couple of years or less from bringing to market with only a single small batch of prototype hypercars built around the technology. Another result of this was that they moved faster than they probably would have towards electric cars as a result, which in turn helped ford get their electric car program off the ground, so its legacy is huge
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  136. its always night shift, just about every nuclear facility accident is night shift
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  137.  @neuralmute  absolutely, I worked night shift at a place and had to do site walk throughs every night to keep people from fucking off and sleeping on the upper floors where there were many unwatched machine spaces. one night I caught a guy packing food products with a fucking pizza at his station like its no big deal and I swear one of these days they're gonna drop an airpod into one of the bags between the fill and close stations. that said there were nights when I had to calibrate machines in the upper floors and didn't see people for like 3 hours while I ran through my calibrations
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  138.  @OfftheWallTales  ya but you had piston powered airplanes crash and kill as many people, its just this crashed because of a design flaw, though I'd argue the super constellations loosing engines routinely was also a bad design flaw
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  139. Good thing their senators and most of their congressmen don't believe in nasty government regulations
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  140. I think they're usually unstable at low power levels which is a bit of a problem
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  141. and then the train suffered a catastrophic melt-down
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  142. seems like this could largely have been avoided by better spending or just not listening to people who build a mansion next to a tower and complain the tower needs to look pretty
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