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Thanks for making this video! This is exactly what we need right now!!! I live in Denmark and had been writing to a couple of architect schools asking if they offered classes in classical architecture. Had this been around 20 years ago I would perhaps have picked a different path! I still want to learn about classical architecture but perhaps not take a full architect education.
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And by patrons of the art we are not referring to the guy who bought that banana duct taped to a wall for 250.000 dollars. Technically that is "art".
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That is ambitious but the best of luck to you!
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@gingi453 The atomic bombings were just two cities. Japan has multiple cities The firebombings were much more destructive as they hit multiple cities of varying sizes.
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I agree. And it is such a terrible shame as traditional Japanese architecture is beautiful in the places where it has been preserved such as the old districts of Kyoto. The Meiji era mix of Japanese and Western classical styles is also a handsome and at times a bit funky fusion.
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@TheOtherKine No you are stating the bullshit. I live in Denmark where they use plenty of brick facades in modernism and post modernism. With the vernacular materials brick and wood being used in both modernism and clasical architecture I see no price difference between the two, it is only a matter of how the materials are used. Also your claim is easily debunkable by the fact that we have reconstructions of classical and vernacular buildings as well as brand new builds in those catagories that dont take 100 years to build. Everything build before the 1950's were not grand cathedrals that took centuries to build. and neither does actual vernacular nor clasical buildings constructed today excede the cost of some of the glass and steel architecture. on the contrary styles like Deconstructivism is much more expensive than clasical architecture as it cant be prefabricated and needs specially build facade elements that are not a stock product. The same can be said about many experimental modernist manifestations.
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As someone very sensitive to my visual surroundings who as a pre school child was scared by the design of a modernist sculpture in front of a school to the point of not wanting to pick that school, I am extremely happy to see Germany choosing this path of re affirming life, culture and vitality through design! I have sometimes been scolded by Germans for stating this but often when visiting Germany I feel that it is a very deracinated people that has lost much of their culture and become demoralized beyond the rest of Europe. It warms my heart to see Germans who work active to solve this and who understand their own ancestors and heritage. I see this as the cultural struggle of our time and I see this deracination and self celebration manifested in other aspects of post modernism, in philosophy, art, politics and as here architecture. I am not telling people to become religious but this ego worship and rebellion against beauty and nature has by the religions of the past been associated with the devil! Architecture, Philosophy and politics are somewhat associated, when you dive into Foucault and other post modernist thinkers and translate their philosophy to aesthetics you start to understand why things look like they do. A society without the transcendental and without roots will build architecture that reflects its nihilism!
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@ehjo4904 I still wear a buttoned cotton shirt and canvas pants held up with a belt, plus leather shoes with laces, which is not far off from what people wore 100 years ago. Should I wear sweatshirts with writing on the selves, elastic gym pants and crocs to embrace modernity??? You know sort of like the people in Mike Judges film "Idiocracy" Funny because one of the other critiques of modernity is that people dress ugly and unaesthetic. Which many of us tend to agree with.
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@toniderdon How much money do you need and do you plan to sell or rent the properties afterwards, Will it be urban or suburban development. I am into real estate. If you want to go down that path and got the money I recommend that you wait a couple of years for the recession to really hit. You will then be able to buy the land cheaper and you can wait developing it till you start seeing a re-bounce of the world economy as you will be hit with a different higher property tax once you start developing rather than when it was undeveloped, agricultural or an old industrial zone. Try teaming up with others if you lack the finance. This will also minimize your risks.
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This video is gold for me! I have long been looking for a school that taught classical architecture, had this existed two decades earlier I would have gone that way with my career.
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I disagree. I live in Odense where modernism has tried its hardest to push the cars out of the center of town and create cozy places.- But it ultimatley failed. All the bars, all the crowds, night-live and attention are at the old parts of town. Non of the new areas has been able to draw crowds. The same goes for the new harbor front builds. They have had flea markets and all sorts of festivities planned from above to make the new development seem lively but as soon as the market or festivity packs down the whole development is dead and deserted rows of modern housing. There actually exist a neoclassical equivalent of a strip mall. I visited that in Milan. look up "Galleria Vittorio Emanuele II" It was gorgeous.
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@the_aesthetic_city So far I made the Aarhus school of architecture aware of the video and gave them a hint once more that I was interested in taking up the subject. Months earlier I have asked Arkitektur Oprøret, if they were capable of recommending a classical course in architecture, they had no recomendations. This is just a speculation but I believe we lack a network of classical architects in Denmark to pick up the challenge. Danish architects has otherwise previously been open to setting up new movements, the most successful being "Bedre Byggeskik" that rebelled against what it saw as a generic international form of classicism in the late 1800's putting a Danish vernacular style in its place and helped empower local craftsmen. Alas this movement was also conquered by modernism and closed its doors in 1965, despite having a profound impact decades earlier.
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@toniderdon Perhaps you should open a page for the project and gather investors? Real estate is usually one of the more safe ways to maintain cash in a volatile economy. I don't know how much that is the case given our current potential real estate bubble. But I am all in once it has burst.
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@gsyt1988 A construction company that has also done restoration on classical buildings is a decent bid. Fun fact the masons here in Denmark still has exams with complicated brickwork. So the artisans certainly are out there.
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@notshylo If you arrived late to the ball YouTube tends to hid your comment. try clicking the "sort according to" tab next to the comment count. This sometimes help me when I cant find my comment.
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Is there an architectural school or academy teaching classic architecture? I was looking for one in my home country Denmark and could not find one, they had all fallen to Modernism. I wrote an email to Arkitekturoprøret in Denmark they confirmed that we lack such a dedicated line and they could not even host a guest lecture in the local architect academy. I think this should be the next step of our movement, to set up lines that allow people to study the classical movements and become classical architects. I bet you have come across at least a couple of classical architects. Perhaps some of those would be interested in teaching?
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Are you located in Denmark? If you have interest in studying or promoting classical architecture here perhaps we should connect?
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I hope that you will somehow also be able to learn some classical principles so you can branch out to that and ride both winds as times change.
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These classical reconstructions, I wonder where they get the details produced at such a price that it only becomes few percentages more expensive. Perhaps the architectural rebellion groups around the world should band together and create a resource library for suppliers, contractors and architects, so people from around the world will know where to source the right people with the right skills when they want a classical building. Also I could not find a school for classical architecture in my country, they all seem to be modernist.
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"Brainport Smart District" looks like it could become an excellent prison. I think the people who came up with smart cities read Orwell the wrong way. Plaster cameras and face recognition software everywhere is like writing an invite for tyranny, this can only end badly, especially as we see our contemporary political class turning more tyrannical as they recede to new political movements. It is interesting how a world where everything is otherwise considered Fascism cant really recognize something like mass surveillance to be such mid century totalitarian ideologies wet dream. But as the challenge is not creating a prison. That castle layout in Brandevoort wins with me, I believe it is"De Veste".
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I am in my late 30's I kind of want to go back to school and become a classical architect. I have a Bachelor in Arts and animation and I am very comfortable with traditional drawing and sketching I wonder if that would suffice to apply.
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As someone who has traveled in Germany and the old east Germany, I can confirm that there is plenty of DDR era prefab houses. The particular type standing in the way of the reconstruction is not unique there are several made of the same kind of elements to the same specifications. The loss is very negligible. If the authorities really cared about keeping DDR relics alive they would not create those Umweltzones pushing the Trabants out of town or at least give them an exemption. They have much more quirky character than prefab houses, and are unlike the prefab houses featured on tourist souvenirs.
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@hydrocharis1 It goes without saying that the past can never come back. When ever we are shaping the future it is always something new, that rhymes on the past. There are elements from pre WWII Germany that were horrible, You neither want to live in Wiemar degeneracy and economic chaos nor in post 1933 Nazi authoritarianism. The way Germany has dealt with its past traumas has been very destructive and self denying, the backlash has targeted the peoples culture and identity without targeting the culture of the German elite which basically remains totalitarian as we saw during Corona when a dissenting doctor was arrested during a podcast and protesters were sprayed with a water canon in the middle of winter despite the fact that the system spraying them were claiming to fight a flue like disease that spreads easier when people are cold. This totalitarian mindset came forward again when the establishment were risking being defeated by the AfD in a democratic election and as such are trying to ban their opposition.
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