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Comments by "Quizmaster China" (@QuizmasterLaw) on "Why the German Army couldn't overcome their bad logistics" video.
"Could they have improved it?" Spoiler alert: No. It wasn't so much a lack of trucks or trains as fuel. Sure, switching guage in the East is a pain in the ass but not insurmountable. But so much was horse-drawn of necessity that even with some trucks and trains sustained distant operations were impossible.
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STIK TO OIL
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No fuel? Use horses? No fodder? Eat Horses. Welcome to German logistics 1942.
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Logistics problems are complex but can be solved they are not incalculable. The failure of axis supply networks in the East wasn't due to central planning or a command economy, it was simly due to lack of fuel, lack of roads, and the few roads being dirt tracks. A different rail guage didn't help. So... you get it partly right (lack of fuel) but mostly wrong (at least 22 minutes in). Weather and the absence of roads, and btw very few railroads which used a different guage of track than in the rest of Europe requiring trains to be switched at the border.
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there's absolutely no way to use the price mechanism in literal combat.
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@TheImperatorKnight because it's impossible to negotiate consensual transactions whilst trying to kill people and not get killed by people.
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if you were anyone other than You I would be insulting you. You cannot use the price mechanism in combat because you are getting shot at and returning the favor.
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@aussiviking604 German truck quality was just fine. However, with no fuel a truck is useless. I've no idea why you think German trucks were of bad quality, when the opposite is the case. Though, rubber was in scarce supply. Rail was more important for resupply, even for Russia because of snow and the rasputitsa.
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@OtherDAS Simple. I kill the guy, then I take his guns and ammunition. After I kill enough of them I also take his homes farms factories and fields. See how it works? That's war.
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@OtherDAS Not if you do it right. Like this: A man was walking down the street. He had a large bag of gold coins in his hand. He met another man. That other man had a gun. The man with gold coins did not. Guess who got the gold and the gun when they got in a fight? In other words: you're either stupid or dishonest. No one can be so dense as to fail to understand that war, which is about involuntary deadly violent transactions, is fundamentally different from economics which is about voluntary non-violent transactions wherein both parties profit. I really cannot stand stupid people with their reductionist blidness, but I hate liars even more than stupid people. Have a nice day, you stupid liar.
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You're just not good at plunder or murder for that matter
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@TheImperatorKnight people who have never been in combat or even in uniform sometimes say stupid things about war.
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@julianshepherd2038 most of the nazi economy is intractable with capitalist methods due to plunder and slavery.
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@boomslangCA o=Of course you can't use a pricing mechanism in combat, I'm shocked anyone would even seriously suggest that, I did explain why, TIK doubled down, he actually meant it, it's not sarcasm, it's stupidity.
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The INCAPACITY of capitalism to even Measure the economy which is predicated on PLUNDER and SLAVERY shows you why it's inadequate. That doesn't means slavery or plunder are good, they are fucking horrible. But it does means if your tools CANNOT do the task ... you need different tools. He's generally really smart but what a fucking blind spot.
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@TreyWait the problem I see is it's cold / snowy / wet / windy / dark / foggy and people are trying to kill me.
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oh i forgot to add I am hungry thirsty and very sleepy. also i must kill people to even have a chance to survive. Money lol
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@muhammadfarisbinrahmat5770 China today is a good example of a dictatorship which tries to use price mechanisms, but even they face serious corruption and market distortion, tofu architecture.
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@Félix Sánchez In the end, yes.
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@dorlonelliott9368 and then there was that time my country was ruined and defeated and I had to write myself out of a prison and into a new job
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@dorlonelliott9368 or covering his ass. i tried to explain how.
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@OtherDAS How can you people all suck so badly at PLUNDER and GENOCIDAL SLAVERY?
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@so_zemlji Have I mentioned? I have. You are looking at an economy predicated on 1) plunder 2) slavery 3) genocide. The logic of capitalists, which is that free exchange of goods benefits both parties is simply inapplicable, without considering the exigencies of actual combat. What's the true cost of slave labor? What's the true value of slave labor? What's the true worth of plundered grain, oil, coal, iron, and livestock? TIK's trying to say the nazi economy couldn't direct production properly but could have if only it had the bullshit magic of capitalism. It could not have properly allocated war production under any circumstances because even in capitalist economies the exigencies of combat create serious distortions in production and distribution. This is why ration cards and black markets arise more often in war than in peace even though there are fewer goods to allocate. It's like trying to measure an apple with a blowtorch.
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@fredsanford5954 lol, no. Nothing about monetary supply, inflation, the law of supply and demand, nothing about tax policy or budgets. Mentioning the problems of capital allocation in a semi-planned economy isn't a general lecture or introductory to macro-economics. Doesnt' even mention the issues of capital formation. It's a great video but you're putting way too much on it.
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@jonoc3729 Even though plenty of capitalists have conquered, enslaved, and exterminated entire races for profit (slavery is profitable, so is stealing land and the minerals under it) that's not what I was talking about. I was only explaining why war makes capitalist methods irrelevant. It's like using a tape measure to kill someone. Wrong tool for the job.
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@muhammadfarisbinrahmat5770 They claim to want to obtain political goals despite the market; though often the ideology is just an excuse for corruption. Say I want equal wages for everyone, that's a political goal. So I, the dictator, simply enforce that as a rule. But then I want to get the doctor's services, and since I make all the rules anyway I just steal from someone or order the doctor to treat me for free. Does that make it more logical? 1) Political goals 2) (which often justify/excuse) corruption
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Trucks require Roads. Roads require no mud or snow. Even with fuel, no. Rasputitsa.
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@bradyelich2745 oh you poor naive fool who has never driven through deep snow and lots of mud in 1940s and 1930s technology.
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welcome to the USSR 1941. There is no GPS. Oh, and all the maps? Yeah, What Maps. Even if there were roads (as opposed to dirt tracks) how are you going to navigate? You're not.
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