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The far right is exemplified by politics based on extreme nationalism, an identification with skin colour as being a defining characteristic of an individual, racism, misogyny, homophobia, a support for authoritarian forms of government, hatred of an out-group(s), an acceptance and use of violence as a means of political protest and/or strategy, and the targeting of a group(s) as the primary source of all ills. Conforming to all of these is not essential, however members of the far-right will demonstrate many of these characteristics.
I would also say it is marked by a lack of willingness to engage with views or facts that do not conform to confirmation bias and a reluctance to investigate beyond the surface of an issue, though those are not defining features of the term
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@chrisclarke6344 So you would happily live in a "Papers please" society? The right not to have to identify yourself at the whim of a police officer is at the base of any sense of privacy in this country. If I remember correctly Churchill described the abolition of identity cards and the need to present them in the 1950s as "The return of British freedom."
You winge about auditors, but much of what they expose, in terms of the police abusing their powers and making up laws, is more important than the facile photography of vacuous celebrities produced by swathes of mainstream photographers
Additionally, auditors are slowly forcing change on the actions of the Police. This can be seen in the memo from NPCC of 2020, advising all forces to respect the rights of all photographers, and reminding them that they often rely on such individuals for evidence of crimes. This came about specifically because of the work of auditors and because police officers were repeatedly abusing their powers (otherwise there would have been no need for the memo).
You also fall into the trap of castigating those personally who you do not know, just because you do not like what they do - in the great tradition of tabloid journalism. I'm sure there are some auditors who for one reason or another are not working, but more, afaiaa, have jobs or are retired. What they choose to do in their spare time is no business of yours. I'm sure I, or they, would find some of your hobbies equally ridiculous and pointless.
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@andyd2528 it's amazing what wonderful superpowers hindsight has given you.
Starmer was head of the CPS when Saville was interviewed by police in 2008, he was not the reviewing lawyer.
Saville died in 2009 and it was only after that that details of his industrial scale abuse came to light.
In 2013 Starmer commissioned a review into the actions of the CPS over the Saville investigation of 2008. This found that none of the four victims had been willing to give evidence in court, but that, crucially in hindsight, the police had not informed any of the four that there were other victims. Three of the four told the review that had they been told this, they would have been willing to appear in court.
The review also found the reviewing lawyer could have been more proactive in their dealings with, and guidance of, the police investigation, but that there was no "improper motive" not to charge Saville.
There was no suggestion in the review that Starmer was involved in any decision making in the case.
So, man up, where is your evidence he ignored the case? Or are you like Bozo, spouting any bit of slurry in the hope that some sticks?
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Whilst in principle I would agree, given the last election was in 2006 and that half of Gazans weren't even born back then it's not really fair to say the population voted for Hamas.
Hamas got 58% of the vote in Gaza in that election. Hamas also has two strands, the terrorist one and another that provides basic hospitals, schools etc. It is possible, therefore, that some people voted for Hamas whilst turning a blind eye to their terrorism.
Also, the main opposition to Hamas is the secular Fatah faction - which is extremely corrupt. Thus, some Gazans may have voted in an 'anything but Fatah' way.
Like an election anywhere else, why people vote for one party and not another is complex.
There was an opinion poll which put support for Hamas in Gaza at 52%, but conducting a poll there is difficult.There is always a margin of error in a poll and a poll is not a vote.
So you could say about half of (adult) Gazans support Hamas, but not that they voted for them.
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"Implemented at the expense of Palestinians" - there were no Palestinians in 1947/48. At the time the term 'Arabs' was used, 'Palestinian' is a late C20 appellation.
The Palestine Mandate also covered what is now Jordan, which was created in 1946. Jews made up about a third of the population in the Mandate, but received less than a third of its territory. If anything, the 1947 UN decision was at the expense of them, not the Arabs.
Furthermore, when Egypt, Saudi, Jordan, Syria and Iraq declared war on Israel in '48 they did not do it to create a 'Palestinian state,' they did it to erase Israel from the map, which is why Egypt incorporated Gaza and Jordan the West Bank into their countries.
Your understanding of history leaves much to be desired.
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The email address for the police department is :
police(at)cityofloveland(dot)org
Below is the text of my email should anyone wish to use it as a basis for theirs.
Dear Madam/Sir,
I have just seen the video of one of your "officers", Hopp, assaulting a frail elderly woman. It is sickening that a police officer should behave in such a way to a clearly vulnerable person whom it should have been clear very quickly had cognitive difficulties
The "officers" actions were violent, heavy handed, did nothing to respect this elderly woman and are tantamount to elder abuse.
If his actions were following your procedures and training you need to change them, fast, as they are degrading, disrespectful and fascistic in nature.
At the very least this officer should be fired, as his actions bring disrepute and dishonour to your department, never mind the distress and injury caused to the vulnerable victim of his assault.
Yours faithfully,
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So a moment's research would show:
"Four people have so far been charged with criminal offences, including Iustin Dobre, 37, of Leeds, who was charged with setting a bus on fire by standing next to it with a lighter during the disorder.
Mark Mitchell, 43, of Strathmore View, Leeds and Zamonsty Milan, 30, of Seaforth Road, Leeds, have both charged with arson reckless as to endanger life and violent disorder.
On 23 July, the force said it had identified 40 suspects in total."
You have heard of Google, I presume?
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@angiesniche The 300,000 army never existed. I agree, in principle, that equipment was left for that purpose, but you'd have to have had you head stuck a long way into the ground not to have realised very quickly what was happening.
So, effectively, America did abandon $7.17billion worth of military equipment, no matter how you want to dress it up.
I don't see what the problem is in admitting that. Shit happens, it's life. As Von Moltke the Elder said, "No plan survives first contact with the enemy."
Some of the equipment, like the helicopters probably should have been rendered inoperable. Things like the jets will render themselves useless as the Taliban won't be able to get parts and jets are high maintenance.
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A moments research would reveal:
"Four people have so far been charged with criminal offences, including Iustin Dobre, 37, of Leeds, who was charged with setting a bus on fire by standing next to it with a lighter during the disorder.
Mark Mitchell, 43, of Strathmore View, Leeds and Zamonsty Milan, 30, of Seaforth Road, Leeds, have both charged with arson reckless as to endanger life and violent disorder.
On 23 July, the force said it had identified 40 suspects in total."
Why is it you'd rather spread lies than look for facts?
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@triadwarfare I think that unlikely. There have already been reports of senior Belarusian military figures resigning or being replaced at the prospect of joining the war, and in any case Belarus could probably only add 15k extra useful troops if all its non-conscript forces actually went to war (which is unlikely).
The most likely options are that Lukashenko rides out the situation from the sidelines, or the government slowly crumbles from within.
That might lead to someone trying to take over from Lukashenko (there maybe enough people in the security forces who would support another dictator, if only for their own safety). The Russians might try to take over, but they've got their hands full. Or we might see a a democratic revolution - there were reports today of Belarusian railway workers 'disconnecting' Belarus from Ukraine, so maybe the authoritarian grip is starting to loosen.
What seems unlikely, to me, is Belarus joing the war because I think Lukashenko knows if he did that directly, it would probably mark his end as he doesn't have the power to force the military to do it, or he would have done it already.
But I could be wrong, 🙂
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@pamelajessup7931 That is wrong on so many levels.
Firstly, Kosovo proclaimed independence most recently in 2008.
Secondly, it was Serbia who took a case against it to the International Court of Justice, and lost.
Thirdly, a joint Serbia-Eu resolution in the UN dissolved all Serbian institutions in Kosovo in return for putting Serbia on a path to EU membership.
Fourthly, Kosovo still does not have enough international recognition to enable it to join the UN. In particular it is believed russia would veto their membership.
Fifthly, the so called LNR and DPR declared independence in 2014, that's six years AFTER Kosovo.
Sixthly, when they declared independence not even russia recognised them as such, not doing so until 2022!!!
Seventhly, when they declared independence they did not even occupy all the territory they were claiming independence for.
The two situations are entirely different. Also, it's not UN rules that decide whether a country is independent or not, its international law and the de facto consensus of international opinion.
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@TheAmericanPrometheus The education system clearly failed you at multiple levels, that is if you ever bothered attending.
Firstly, I never claimed any of the things were exclusive to capitalism, just that they were things to consider. You chose to construct the straw man.
But your inability to read is not all, geography fails you as well. Ukraine was not a colony of the USSR, it had been part of Imperial Russia for centuries, try looking at some maps some time.
And your history is diabolical. You think East Germany was bad - look at conditions in C18/19 British mines and factories.
There was no famine when the Soviets went into Afghanistan, and in fact they were invited in by the de facto government of the time.
Yes, the Soviets did drain the Aral Sea. And do you know what, they knew that and decided it was better to do that so they could grow cotton to clothe their population. Now you can disagree with their choice, or means if achieving their objective, but under capitalism you have vast swathes of the Amazon burnt and clear felled so that cattle can be ranched to supply cheap burgers.
You want to talk about shitty policies of the PRC, fine they were shit, what about the shitty British policies of the C19 during the Irish and three Indian famines? Or the shitty policies of Britain, Russia and the Ottomans during the Persian famine, Or the Biafran famine caused by a military blockade which was backed by both Britain and the USSR! You acknowledge the hits for one system, but you ignore them for the other. Hypocrite.
Finally, "statist regimes of the C19," really?? The Russian Revolution was in 1917, that's the C20!!!!!!! I don't know about a failed education, I don't think you've had any at all.
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I suspect, given how old your child is, that the resources used to teach sex ed back then we're probably planned, designed and produced by the school. Thus, there were no issues around commercial interests or intellectual copyright.
One of the things that has happened over the last 20 years or so is a growing recognition that ordinary classroom teachers are not the best placed individuals to teach sex ed.
They will have had very little training in appropriate ways to do so whilst obtaining their PGCE, as they will be concentrating on their primary discipline(s), and in academies one does not even need to have any teaching qualifications, IIRC.
Therefore, rightly or wrongly, there has been a move to engaging the support of those who do have pedagogic experience in this area, so as to ensure pupils and students get a more uniform and consistent sex ed program country wide.
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By 🤡 💩-tin's logic Russia isn't a proper country and we should be looking for the independence of: Adygea, Altai, Bashkorostan, Buratia, Dagestan, Ingushetia, Karbadilno-Balkar, Kalmykia, Karachay-Cherkess, Karelia (though perhaps that should be returned to Finland??), Komi, Mari El, Mordovia, Sakha, North Ossetia-Alania, Tartarstan, Tuva, Udmurt, Khakassia, Chechnya, Chuva, Altai Krai, Krasnoyarsk Krai, Primorsky Krai, Stavropol Krai, Khabarovsk Krai, Amur Oblst, Archangelsk Oblast, Astrakhan Oblast, Belgorod Oblast, Bryansk Oblast, Vladimir Oblast, Volgograd Oblast, Vologda Oblast, Voronezh Oblast, Ivanovo Oblast, Irkutsk Oblast, Kaliningrad Oblast (though maybe that should be returned to Germany??), Kaluga Oblast, Kamchatka Krai, Kemerovo Oblast, Kirov Oblast, Kostroma Oblast, Kurgan Oblast, Kursk Oblast, Leningrad Oblast, Lipetsk Oblast, Magadan Oblast, Moscow Oblast, Murmansk Oblast, Nizhny Novgorod Oblast, Novgorod Oblast, Novosibirsk Oblast, Omsk Oblast, Orenburg Oblast, Oryol Oblast, Penza Oblast, Perm Krai, Pskov Oblast, Rostov Oblast, Ryzan Oblast, Samara Oblast, Saratov Oblast, Sakhalin Oblast (though parts of that should be returned to Japan), Sverdlovsk Oblast, Smolensk Oblast, Tambov Oblast, Tver Oblast, Tomsk Oblast, Tula, Oblast, Tyumen Oblast, Ulyanovsk Oblast, Chelyabinsk Oblast, Zabaykalsky Krai, Yaroslavl Oblast, Moscow, St Petersburg, Jewish Autonomous Oblast, Nenets Autonomous Oblast, Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug-Yugra, Chutoka Autonomous Okrug and the Yemalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug.
After that I suggest we send 🤡 💩-tin to Belkovsky Island for life.
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There is one theory, which I think may have a kernel of truth to it, that it isn't about land, it's about population, that's why russia has been so keen to spirit off some 2,000,000 Ukrainians, mostly women, into russia itself.
That russia has a declining population is well known, but despite its 145milliin citizens there are only 3 million women between the ages of 20 and 24 and 4 million between 25 and 30.
The figures aren't much better for younger age groups and the figures for men mirror those for women.
The theory goes that although you will lose some men (and remember russia thought this war would be over in days if not a week) the gain in population would significantly outweigh any losses, thus solving your demographic time bomb.
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I think you need to gain a deeper perspective.
In 2021 72% of what you would call "illegal migrants" were accepted as genuine asylum seekers, thus we have a duty and responsibility to assist them. Seeking asylum is not illegal.
In 2021 just 6% of asylum applications had their first consideration completed within six months, in 2014 it was 87%. It is not an asylum seeker's fault if the British government cannot fulfill its obligations within a reasonable time period.
In 2009 (last full year of a Labour government) there were 19,570 enforced removals. In 2021 the figure was just 2,830. So much for taking control of our borders.
Refugees and asylum seekers make up less than 0.6% of the UK population according to the UNHCR. There length of stay is determined by factors in their home countries, well outside any influence they may have.
It is wrong to blame refugees, asylum seekers and migrants for where the government chooses to spend or not spend money, or tax or not tax.
For example, billions were wasted during the pandemic on useless PPE, much seemingly bought from friends of the current government. The government has gone through strenuous efforts to keep this information secret and does not seem overly concerned about recovering it.
Alternatively, a 2% wealth tax on holdings over £10million by the members of the Sunday Times 'rich list' could bring in an extra £22BILLION a year - but I don't see the Tories doing that anytime soon, do you?
Don't blame ordinary people for what they can't control. Blame the politicians who can't or won't do anything about it and then lie to you.
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@bjung8858 So tell us, if we are to regain our moral compass, what would be the best day of the week to stone adulterers to death?
And 'men who lie with men as with a woman'. Would you suggest a tall building or another stoning? Or is it just advice against the missionary position, I'm mean technically doggy style isn't lying, right?
What do you think the economic hit is going to be when every store, the internet etc is shut down every Saturday? Should I stock up?
As for taking slaves from the surrounding nations, would you recommend I have Canadian slaves or Mexican ones, I can't quite make up my mind?
Speaking of which, do you think it will be OK to beat my disobedient children with the same rod I beat my slaves with? And can I beat my children on a Sabbath, it sort of feels like work, but it is also a duty, I'm in a quandary?
I am quite poor, so I was wondering quite when I could expect delivery of your worldly goods, oh and you'd best let me have your address so I can move in ASAP.
Finally, when I visit Jerusalem, should I enter on a donkey or an ass?
Thanks! 🙂
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@martinsmith5998 I hardly think 28,000 people in a country of 67,000,000 is going to change the demographics to any noticeable degree, especially when many of that 28,000 will end up having their asylum applications rejected.
Secondly, the EHCR was proposed by Winston Churchill and was signed in 1950, if British people had been so opposed to it they could have voted against it in the General Election in 1951 - they didn't, Churchill was re-elected as PM. The ECHR was put into British law following the election of Tony Blair in 1997, when the matter had been a manifesto commitment, with a majority of 178. Now I am not claiming Churchill or Blair were elected because of the ECHR, but people have had the opportunity to vote against it, most significantly in 1997. So you are wrong to say people have never been asked. Try doing a bit of research in future, it'll stop you looking like a wally.
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@cockneycharm3970 Yes, we are likely heading into a recession. But the way we deal with that is a political choice.
Sunak et al are planning to cut government expenditure, which is exactly the wrong thing to do in a recession (see The Affluent Society, 1958!) as governments need to make up for the shortfall in wider spending or it makes the recession longer and deeper (look how JFK helped bring America out if the Great Depression - though WW2 helped, so maybe supplying Ukraine will help us too).
Also, the government's so called 'black hole' is an accountant's fiction. It only exists because the government includes the Bank of England's debt in the national debt. But the BoE is independent of government, and has been since 1997, so there is no reason why its debt should be part of the government's. Unless your objective is to decrease the size of the state - as we saw under Cameron.
If you remove the BoE debt from the figures (which the government has done previously, but has deliberately CHOSEN not to do now) then it has a surplus of £14billion to play with - see the report from the Progressive Economics Forum about two weeks ago.
So we are not struggling to help the least we'll off, we can do it very easily, it's just this government is CHOOSING not to and is using an obscure accountancy rule to try to present that choice as no choice at all.
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@freekfaro5606 The Speaker is there to manage debate within the House, to ensure parliamentary rules are obeyed and, in theory, to represent the House of Commons to the monarch of the day.
The difference between what Blackford said and what I recall Johnson saying is subtle, but clear. Blackford said, eventually, that Johnson had lied - misled the house - (I agree). However, parliamentary rules say you cannot impune another member's honour in that way (if nothing else you cannot know their state of mind, so you cannot know if this 'misinforming' was deliberate or accidental). Thus the convention is to say that someone, "inadvertently misled the House," which is what the Speaker and Blackford went back and forth over.
From memory, in his disgusting smear against Starmer Johnson used either "seemed" or "appeared," I forget which. This is about a perception and thus is about what the speaker thinks of a situation and is an opinion rather than a statement of fact.
That at least is my understanding. Does that answer your question?
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@kevinsmarts9953 The Roman Empire transferred its capital to Constantinople in 330 (it was actually in a number of places over the years), however, since 276 the Empire had had Eastern and Western Emperors. The Western half of the empire officially dissolved in 476.
I agree there is continuity, but historians eventually start to call the Eastern Roman Empire Byzantium. This began in the C16 due to the need to distinguish between different periods of Greek writers. Calling the Eastern Roman Empire such, certainly after 476, is a bit like the old joke about the Holy Roman Empire: it was neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire. It's only the empire bit that applies to our discussion.
Saying the Roman Empire was the longest lived empire in the terms you have is a bit like saying you've still got the same bike you had fifty years ago when everything on it has been replaced at some point.
I would also point out the your Roman Empire was only really Christian for 1,070 years (and from 660, IIRC, other religions were technically prohibited within it).
Theodosius, in 380 made Christianity the official state religion. Even so, coins from his period still bear pagan motifs, so dating from the reign of his son, Arcadius 383 - 408, when pagan images are absent may be more accurate. While it's pagan period is either just under a thousand years if you date it from the conventional 625BC, or just over a thousand years if you date it from 753 BC
and the founding of Rome. So it's roughly 50/50, pagan/Christian, not that I think that really matters.
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I doubt they have anything to hide.
They will be concerned about the reproduction and dissemination of their copyrighted materials as this will likely be a major income stream for the charity, which they will wish to protect.
This will be why, for instance, their instructions include deleting the slides after use, as they are not being sold in the basis of multiple use.
From a charity point of view I can fully understand why they would wish to protect their intellectual property rights, the third sector isn't known for being awash with cash.
I can also understand why the school could not comply with an FOI request - they did not have the legal right to disclose the charity's information; and the charity, not holding personal details on individuals, could not be FOI'd - to create a verb.
However, it does seem strange that some accommodation could not have been made for the parent to view the materials under conditions that would have protected the copyright.
I think we are missing important details of the story, especially, where this took place as I believe there are different parental rights depending on which of the four nations one lives in.
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@purplenurple4113 @Purple Nurple Trying to draw a parallel between the UK and US on this is facile. The systems and laws are far too different.
The parent wasn't refused an opportunity to see what had been taught at all.
When the parent first asked about the lessons the charity provided a bullet point list of what covered and a list of the resources used.
The parent then asked to see the slides, so the charity sent a copy to the college and the parent was shown the slides.
The parent then asked for a copy of the slides. The charity said, 'No' because it wished to protect its intellectual property - just like any other organisation would do.
However, they offered to meet with the parent, show her the slides again and answer questions. Unfortunately, the college did not pass on that offer, which is a pity.
Nothing was being kept secret, the charity was prepared to go out of its way to try to answer the parent's concerns and the classes were taught across four year groups, so hundreds of kids, and their teachers - hardly the environment for anyone hint untoward to occur.
Furthermore, the charity was supported in court by the Information Commissioner's Office and the Court agreed with them. You can't just demand people give you a copy of their work, what belongs to them.
You were quite right, when I posted earlier I knew no more options than you about the case, though many years teaching has given me some understanding of the way things work.
However, I have taken the trouble to investigate further, as I felt there was something missing from the video story. Have you, or are you still going off your gut?
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@ruberxwibebadhi The Palestine Mandate was created after WW1.
It encompassed what are now Israel, Gaza, the West Bank and Jordan (called Trans-Jordan at the time).
Jordan became independent in 1946, then there was the UN plan for dividing the rest in 1947, with Israel becoming independent in 1948.
The term 'Palestine' derived from the ancient collection of cities around Gaza, which was called Phillistia and from which we get the people called Philistines.
The Roman province of Judea became part of Syria-Palaestina after 70AD, and later still just Palaestina.
Around 390 the Byzantines divided Palaestina into three: Prima, Secunda and Salutaris.
Following the Islamic conquests of the C7/8 the area was renamed in Arabic - there is no 'P' sound in Arabic, apparently. Palaestina Prima became Filestin, for example.
The term was occasionally used as a substitute for the 'Holy Land' in the middle ages and under the Ottomans just meant the area south of Syria (i.e. the name for a general location - a bit like saying the Balkans).
The first modern usage of Palestine appears to be in 1898, though even in 1947/48 the people now referred to as Palestinians were just called Arabs.
One important thing to consider is that nationalism and national identity are comparatively recent inventions and people were more used in that area to defining themselves in religious terms rather than ethnic or national terms.
As such, although Philestina was a 'state,' that was about 3,500 years ago. For the last 2,000 years, at least, it has described provinces or a general region and, briefly the area of the British Palestine Mandate.
The word only gets its modern usage when the Palestinian National Council first met in 1964 and formed the PLO.
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@petergreenwood7731 Hamas are not fighting for a Palestinian state, they are fighting for the erasure of Israel, the death of every Jew and an Islamic Caliphate uniting all Arabs.
As to the settlers in the West Bank, the problem is not Jews living there per se, after all there are 1.7 million Arab-Israelis, what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
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The problems are the way in which some of the land was acquired and the Israeli demand to keep the settlements under their legal system. The latter, especially, means that a Palestinian state in the WB would struggle to be viable.
Personally speaking, I would hope that in a final settlement would see those settlements as a sovereign part of Palestine - however the actions of groups like Hamas make that extremely unlikely as Israel has legitimate concerns over the safety of its citizens there.
Arabs had the chance for a Palestinian state in 1937 and 1947, rejected it both times and in '48 declared war on the newly formed Israel, not to create a Palestinian state, but to erase Israel from the map.
As an atheist I have no interest in anybody's religiously based claims and in the best of all worlds there would be one secular humanist state. But we all know that is not going to happen anytime soon.
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@hagiasmos314 No, I'm not ignorant. But, effectively, you are saying that this voluntary work only occurs by those people because of their church, which is a dubious claim at best.
Also, as you seem to be a fan of large churches, from what can be gathered (as many churches do not publish accounts) it seems the monies expended on charitable works is often a very small proportion of a churches income, sometimes as low as one or two percent - your claim about churches being more "efficient" is, therefore, suspect as to it's veracity.
There are a great many secular organisations that help people. If those people who give to churches for their charitable works gave to secular organisations there would be no need to divert resources to the church as a specifically religious organisation and more could go to helping people.
Also, that governments do not always help the worst off very well is an indictment of governments, not an endorsement of religion.
All that being said, I would have no objection to the charitable work of a church being tax exempt, but there is no reason at all why their religious side should be.
Furthermore, some churches insist on a right to proselytise before or whilst delivering their help or aid. Thus their true motivation is explicit.
Additionally, many religious thoughts are immensely harmful to society, whether that be on LGBTQ issues; the subjugation of women; teaching children they are deserving of eternal punishment and torture; as Marx so famously put it, 'being the opiate of the masses; or promoting ideas that they cannot demonstrate to be true.
Thus religion serves no public good and, as the late Christopher Hitchens once said, "Human decency is not derived from religion, it precedes it."
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@CG-zm9oj It is not about "sharing" the resources, the word implies that one can take them away and make use of them as one sees fit - which, as I understand it, is what the charity objects to.
When the parent first contacted the school the charity provided a bullet point list of what was covered and a list of the resources.
The parent then asked to see the slides, so the charity sent a copy to the school so they could show them to her, which they did.
The parent then asked for a copy of the slides, the charity said, 'No' so as to protect their intellectual property.
However, they did offer to meet with the parent themselves, show them the slides again and answer any questions. Unfortunately, the college did not pass on this final offer, which is a pity.
That does not sound like anything at all was being kept "secret."
Obviously, not being privy to the contract I cannot say what was or was not in it, and neither can you. However, it seems from the video that the kids may have seen resources, i e. some form of PowerPoint presentation as part of a lesson, but did not have anything physical to take away (a not uncommon practice in RSE/PSE lessons). Thus, by being shown the slides the parent saw precisely what the children saw. I don't believe the video makes any reference to any tangible resources.
Nobody has suggested that the children were asked to keep secrets. That is you putting your own spin on things.
Thus, your entire premise is mistaken. The parent did see the presentation the children saw (and would have been allowed to see it again if the school had passed on an offer). The charity just wasn't prepared to give away a copy of it's work, and the court agreed with them.
Incidentally, the Information Commissioner's Office backed the charity's stance.
What seems logical to me is that I went and found out what really happened in the case - took about a second on Google - rather than relying on one video and my own conceptions, or in your case, misconceptions.
Isn't that a better way to tackle things?
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@iDIVAS So tell us, if we are to regain our moral compass, what would be the best day of the week to stone adulterers to death?
And 'men who lie with men as with a woman'. Would you suggest a tall building or another stoning? Or is it just advice against the missionary position, I'm mean technically doggy style isn't lying, right?
What do you think the economic hit is going to be when every store, the internet etc is shut down every Saturday? Should I stock up?
As for taking slaves from the surrounding nations, would you recommend I have Canadian slaves or Mexican ones, I can't quite make up my mind?
Speaking of which, do you think it will be OK to beat my disobedient children with the same rod I beat my slaves with? And can I beat my children on a Sabbath, it sort of feels like work, but it is also a duty, I'm in a quandary?
I am quite poor, so I was wondering quite when I could expect delivery of your worldly goods, oh and you'd best let me have your address so I can move in ASAP.
Finally, when I visit Jerusalem, should I enter on a donkey or an ass?
Thanks! 🙂
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No, we're not.
At the end of 2022 there were 231,597 refugees, 127,421 pending asylum cases and 5,483 stateless persons in the UK.
Compare that to Turkey, who have about 3,400,000 refugees - as does Iran, or Germany with 2,400,000, the same number as Columbia.
Or think about Lebanon, where about 20% of its entire population are refugees.
If you think the number of refugees the UK is hosting is overwhelming I bet the next time there's an April shower you'll be telling us it's a global flood!
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@schnitzelsticks1245 Jihad can mean 'spiritual struggle' (whatever that might mean), so in one sense for Muslims world wide he might well be correct.
However, in the UK, and I suspect the rest of 'the West' clearly the most common usage would be one involving terrorism. I think it word be hard to find anyone shouting about jihad on a demonstration who, if answering honestly, isn't utilising this usage.
That Rowley takes a nuanced approach is a good thing as black and white distinctions are unhelpful and counter-productive.
The problem is that if the police arrested someone for shouting, "Jihad" it would be extremely difficult to prove which usage they are proclaiming.
The problem isn't Rowley, the problem is that many words have multiple legitimate usages, and I suspect most, if not all, those shouting, "jihad" are using that equivocation to their own advantage - it's just that's very difficult to prove.
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@s.s.m9936 Metal in an MRI room is not a problem. It is only important if it is within the magnetic field of an MRI.
Furthermore, from all the bags of medical supplies it is clear the MRIs were not being used and would, in any case, have been shut down when there was a need to conserve energy. As the hospitals have been claiming they have insufficient fuel supplies for a while it seems that is what has happened. Precisely when the weapons and explosives were placed there no one knows.
Of course Israel has a burden of proof for their claim
However, the response to to not accepting that claim should be, "I am not convinced," not, "It was planted" or "Israel is lying," for that is another claim - for which evidence needs to be given relevant to this particular case.
That's just the position dictate by logic.
What you find convincing is up to you. Personally, I find the evidence to be convincing (though not overwhelming), not because Israel w/couldn't "plant" evidence, but because the consequences of doing so and being discovered would be politically catastrophic to their position, so I don't think they would risk it.
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@neodark414 Do you call yourself a democrat (note the small 'd')? If people want to vote for socialism, although I would argue it tends to be social democracy, they can, why would you want them to leave your country. You sound like a fascist.
Your comments about private versus state control are inaccurate (and incidentally socialists would argue for a mixed economy). Let me give you one example, the US spent more than twice as much of its GDP (before Covid) on healthcare than the UK, yet life expectancy in the UK was one year longer. The US system is largely a private system, the UK has a largely state run system, the National Healthy Service, which, IIRC, is the most financially efficient health service in the world.
In this case state is clearly better than private. Does that mean I want the state to own the company that provides my fruit juice each morning, no. Bur I would like the workers who work in that company to own it and run it as a cooperative. That way they are getting the full fruits of their labour. That is what socialism is about.
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@grit_and_grace57 Again you are being illogical.
You need to demonstrate the existence of the thing you are saying is the cause BEFORE you can determine its effects.
For example, did Little Jimmie make the cake? In order to be able to answer that question, 'Yes,' you would first need to be able to demonstrate that Little Jimmy existed.
To say a god created things would entail first demonstrating said god exists.
As to where everything came from, the best current model would be the "big bang" - but the singularity is the point at which our understanding of physics breaks down, and so the only honest answer is, "I don't know," because nobody does.
As to the origin of life, again nobody knows. However, many of the building blocks for life can be scientifically created in what evidence would suggest are the likely conditions on an early earth.
The evidence for a natural explanation for life at least has some evidence pointing towards it, whilst the evidence for a god being responsible is as absent now as it ever was
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@jodiegalloway3614 I'm judging your views and epistemology, not you.
The universe itself doesn't want anything, it is supremely indifferent as it has no capacity for thought, and Danielle was just using a figure of speech to express that there seemed to be a number of fortunate coincidences.
However, that would be to ignore a number of negatives - the release of the two culprits, being taken in the first place, the ambulance taking two hours to arrive etc.
If you are going to claim "things came together" through the workings of a "higher power" you would need to demonstrate that such a power exists and that it has an influence on reality before you can seek to ascribe event(s) to it.
If I say "Bob stole the cookies," I have to be able to show that Bob actually exists and was capable of stealing the cookies before one can even begin to assess his culpability.
As to an explanation, I would just say she was very fortunate and clearly had a very strong will to survive - I suspect most people would not have been so resourceful in dealing with their intestine coming out, or with the realisation regarding their head/vision. I would like to think I could have handled it, but I also suspect I would have been so grossed out that I would have given up.
There are approximately half a million murders every year, globally, and that's only those who die. I can't find a figure for global attempted murders - but it must be higher. Statistically, events such as this will occur, as such there is nothing to explain, it's just life.
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@barbaravickroy7563 I don't believe I said it said they were 'good'. Bit try these for size:
And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. Numbers 31:15-18
13 When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. 14 As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take. These as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies. -Deuteronomy 20:13-14
Genesis:
6Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him 7and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing. 8Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.”
31One day the older daughter said to the younger, “Our father is old, and there is no man around here to give us children—as is the custom all over the earth. 32Let’s get our father to drink wine and then sleep with him and preserve our family line through our father.”
33That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.34The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.” 35So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.
36So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father.
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@jesusaguilar4585 It is well know Russia has been having supply problems with regard to high tech supplies. You may be right that they will eventually be able to find substitutes, but they have had to close down the tank production lines in Chelyabinsk because of this problem specifically. However, just finding a new supplier doesn't mean they can provide the specifications required for the chips, it's not like changing one screw for another!
You are being optimistic about them taking the whole of the Donbas, though we shall see what we shall see. It has been about five days now since they ended their 'pause' and there has been no movement.
Indeed, if you look at the 'fire' maps, before Ukraine received the HIMARS the Russians were out shelling them eight or ten to one. Now, the situation is 1:1 or at most 5:4 in Russia's favour. The disruption to their supply lines appears to have been catastrophic. Without their artillery advantage they are screwed.
I heard one British military analyst describe Russian infantry as basically, "Blokes with guns." They have relied on the Wagner group to do most of their assaults, and they have lost many of their best men.
Russia's air defences aren't that great. That's why they can't shoot down the missiles from the HIMARS. What there is is a concentration of air defence units in an area which means that units like the Grey Eagle (and the Bayraktar for that matter) are not that effective.
Earlier in the war, when Russia was more spread out, the Grey Eagles would have been fine, just like the Bayraktar was the nemesis of many a Russian tanker.
In fact, the Ukrainians were not really pressing for the Grey Eagles, which is why there have been reports of them possibly receiving Warthogs and maybe A-15s.
Again, I think you are being over optimistic about the relationship between Russia and China. It has never been especially close, even when both were communist countries, and China is naturally cautious. There are reports (and I appreciate they are just 'reports') that the war in Ukraine has led them to reassess their plans vis-a-vis Taiwan and that the Chinese leadership is shocked by how long the war has lasted and how little it has achieved.
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@kevins4936 French protests often turn into confrontations with the police, regardless of the issue - it doesn't mean they are less cohesive as a society.
Also, the French commitment to a secular state is long established and they place that commitment higher than toleration of religious expression in state institutions. It is different than the UK, but that doesn't make them less cohesive.
As for Germany, yes they have banned or restricted some pro-Palestinian demonstrations, but they have done so in the name of cohesiveness - they see the protests as having the potential for anti-Semitism and their support for Israel as part of their atonement for the past. Personally, I do not agree with banning peaceful protests but I can understand the Germans reasoning. Again, you are citing a difference rather than a lack of cohesion.
As for Eastern Europe, having spent seven years living and working in Belarus and before that working in Russia I would agree that part of the world can be quite racist by British standards. But that does not make them less cohesive. Eastern Europe countries tend to be fairly homogeneous (or in the Russia Federation the individual oblasts are). It's a bit like being in Britain in the 50s - there just aren't that many Asian, African or Latino people there (though of course the further one goes into Siberia the more Asiatic faces one sees). The racism that is there is born of ignorance, of a lack of experience of being amongst people of a different ethnic origin. It is a different form of racism than one finds in the UK.
As to them feeling better than everyone else - if you ask people there for a negative impression of us Brits they will say we are arrogant'. We say the same about the French, or that the Germans are high-handed, or that Americans don't understand they are not the centre of the universe. It's an extremely common perception about people from other countries. If you think they think they are superior that is a 'you' problem not a 'them' problem
In fact you are demonstrating exactly that quality by saying that Britain is "wiser" - you are the poster boy for the arrogant Brit.
You should try living and working abroad you'd find it broadens your mind. Just don't do it with the attitude that different means it's not as good.
Oh, and study some history.
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@Maugirl2 But they weren't prohibited.
When the parent first asked about the lessons the charity provided a bullet point list of what covered and a list of the resources used.
The parent then asked to see the slides, so the charity sent a copy to the college and the parent was shown the slides.
The parent then asked for a copy of the slides. The charity said, 'No' because it wished to protect its intellectual property - just like any other organisation would do.
However, they offered to meet with the parent, show her the slides again and answer questions. Unfortunately, the college did not pass on that offer, which is a pity.
Nothing was being kept secret, the charity was prepared to go out of its way to try to answer the parent's concerns and the classes were taught across four year groups, so hundreds of kids, and their teachers - hardly the environment for anyone hint untoward to occur.
Furthermore, the charity was supported in court by the Information Commissioner's Office and the Court agreed with them. You can't just demand people give you a copy of their work, what belongs to them.
So yes, we can agree to differ, but I hope I've given you some facts that might make you reconsider that disagreement.
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@socialite1283 You really have no idea what you are talking about, and your ignorance is embarrassing for you.
The whole point of counseling that is offered trans-gender kids is to allow them to explore their feelings and help them decide for themselves whether this is a phase or an axiomatic part of their identity. You denigrate children by just saying they "decide" whether they are a bit or a girl.
And why did you need to put the word gender in inverted commas? I mean it's not like it's novel in English, it's been around since about the fourteenth century, and ultimately comes from Latin, so it has a fairly long pedigree.
Another aspect of gender affirming care is for the trans-gender child to wear the clothes associated with the gender they believe themselves to be, so that they can have some experience of life as a member of the opposite sex. Don't you think that's rather a good idea, so they can test whether their feelings are the real deal? Or are you still stuck in the 1820's, moaning about women wearing trousers?
As for puberty blockers, you do know that, unfortunately, that government recently stopped the use of them on under 18's (unless as part of a clinical trial). This is absolutely insane on two grounds, firstly puberty blockers are given to kids who experience precocious puberty so that they may experience puberty at a more age appropriate time. Secondly, by denying them to trans kids it is making it harder for them to live as they wish and to receive appropriate medical care past the age of 18.
As for cross sex hormones, prior to the government's decision on pbs a kid would have to have been on pbs for a year and been living as their preferred gender fir a year, and be at least 16 to receive them.
So just think of all the other things one can legally do at sixteen, why should this be any different? The only difference I can see is your bigotry
Surgical interventions are not carried out on children, one has to be an adult and have gone through many of the above stages.
I would strongly suggest you read the NHS web page on gender dysphoria, which though it needs updating given the recent govt decision and the closure of the Tavustocj, will give you at least a factual knowledge rather than the twaddle you have opined today.
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@givemeabreakdoc I see you have a very clear view on the morality of the Bible. Tell me, please, what would be the best day of the week to stone adulterers to death?
And 'men who lie with men as with a woman'. Would you suggest a tall building or another stoning? Or is it just advice against the missionary position, I'm mean technically doggy style isn't lying, right?
What do you think the economic hit is going to be when every store, the internet etc is shut down every Saturday? Should I stock up?
As for taking slaves from the surrounding nations, would you recommend I have Canadian slaves or Mexican ones, I can't quite make up my mind?
Speaking of which, do you think it will be OK to beat my disobedient children with the same rod I beat my slaves with? And can I beat my children on a Sabbath, it sort of feels like work, but it is also a duty, I'm in a quandary?
I am quite poor, so I was wondering quite when I could expect delivery of your worldly goods, oh and you'd best let me have your address so I can move in ASAP.
Finally, when I visit Jerusalem, should I enter on a donkey or an ass?
Thanks! 🙂
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@mimaza100 You can find different bits of info in different places.
UA has a piece about warnings of plans to flood the islands that has literally just gone up, but is interesting and backs up some of what Reporting from Ukraine was saying this morning
Ukraine Matters, yesterday, IIRC, had a video which cited data on water levels behind the dam. Clearly pro-Ukraine, but is usually reasonably reliable in terms of factual detail and if he gets something wrong he will correct himself in a later video. He's based in Denmark, but is originally from Latvia and speaks Ukrainian and Russian.
Reporting from Ukraine, this morning, had an excellent video on the situation. He is based in Mykoloav, I think, so is not that far from events, and on the basis of previous reports seems to have excellent contacts within UAF. Obviously, he is pro-Ukraine, but I've found him to be very reliable in his reporting.
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@dalecrocker3213 The people may stay the same but their attitudes don't.
One of the trigger events for the long war in Ukraine was a decision to make Ukrainian the official language of the state. From a Ukr perspective this was part of ridding themselves of an occupiers culture - in the same way as making it law that the USSR was a criminal state and denying that became an offence.
From a UK perspective, with our attitudes towards Welsh et al, this seems a bit petty, but it has been an important part of nationalist sentiment across the Baltics as well.
Ukraine as a state has had different boundaries, but then so have other countries, not least the UK. Ukrainian nationalism was born in the C19, along with other nationalisms such as Belarusian - largely through language and literature, especially poetry.
This happened at the same time as the birth of nationalism in Russia. There is a very good book called The Shattering of Empires which traces the parallel development of Russian and Turkish nationalisms - both of which were empires.
That Ukraine has had differing borders is irrelevant - there is, as far as I can tell, no sense of revanchment to recover lands once part of Ukraine, such as the lands to the east of the Donbas, they are liberal enough to accept modern political boundaries. Unlike Russia who want to reabsorb Nova Russiya and make a satellite state of what remains of Ukraine. The nationalisms have a different nature.
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@eddiehughs2818 Fair enough, we can all make slips in what we say.
However, how many people were involved in any of those incidents compared to how many have been involved in the demonstrations? It's a vanishingly small proportion.
Some idiots sprayed 'Free Palestine' on a war memorial (I want to say in York, but I can't actually remember where) a couple of days ago. Nothing to do with a demonstration, but a couple of teenagers did it overnight, allegedly, and were arrested for it. Would you say no teenagers in that city/town should be allowed out at night? No, because you would be tarring every kid with the same brush.
If people are going to be idiots they will be idiots regardless of whether there is a demonstration or not, and you can't tar everyone on a demonstration with the actions of the few.
I've seen figures of 30-40,000 as being on last weekend's demonstration in London, let's say 30k - it makes the maths easy. There were 29 arrests, so 0.1% of attendees, of which six were charged, so 0.02% (and not all for public order offences). Would it be better if there were no arrests, sure, but people are people and idiots will be idiots.
"Pure silver" has a silver content of 99.9% - the same as the percentage of people who didn't get arrested in London's demo last weekend.
I don't agree with their cause, but on the basis of the evidence there is little reason to assume anything untoward will happen.
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@twogitsinacar4811 Actually, you are a year older than me. I disagree that there is less respect than there used to be, there is manifestly more. More respect for individuals and the way they live their lives, more respect for alternative ways of living, less condemnation of those whose chosen lifestyles are not the norm. What I think you mean is less deference and consequently greater informality in society.
Now you might call that 'splitting things down' - I'm not entirely sure I grasp what you meant by that phrase - I would say it is greater precision, with less room to equivocate. Those who oppose that do so because they have not thought through their argument, and need to generalise to try to cover the logical flaws in what they are saying. A sound argument needs to be precise before it's validity can even be considered.
Research done on the values taught in both faith and non-faith schools in the UK found that 'respect' (for the individual) came out as the most frequently mentioned in both types of school. So to say there is "no respect" is just manifestly untrue. What there is is a society which is becoming less formal and less deferential but more respectful of individuals - hence the greater emphasis on equality legislation and the rights of minority groups within society.
At first sight respect and compliance might seem to go hand in hand, but if you truly respect someone then it's co-operation not compliance. Compliance always comes with the force of authority.
I have taught being called Sir/Mr and being called by my first name and I'd say it makes no difference at all. What does make a difference is treating kids with respect, having engaging purposeful lessons, genuinely listening to what pupils say, being forgiving and having a good sense of humour. That's what gets you respect in a classroom
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Tracy, So tell us, if America is being destroyed morally, what would be the best day of the week to stone adulterers to death?
And 'men who lie with men as with a woman'. Would you suggest a tall building or another stoning? Or is it just advice against the missionary position, I'm mean technically doggy style isn't lying, right?
What do you think the economic hit is going to be when every store, the internet etc is shut down every Saturday? Should I stock up?
As for taking slaves from the surrounding nations, would you recommend I have Canadian slaves or Mexican ones, I can't quite make up my mind?
Speaking of which, do you think it will be OK to beat my disobedient children with the same rod I beat my slaves with? And can I beat my children on a Sabbath, it sort of feels like work, but it is also a duty, I'm in a quandary?
I am quite poor, so I was wondering quite when I could expect delivery of your worldly goods, oh and you'd best let me have your address so I can move in ASAP.
Finally, when I visit Jerusalem, should I enter on a donkey or an ass?
Thanks! 🙂
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@kimobrien. Thank you for your reply, my comment was really aimed at the OP, who I suspect was using the word without the slightest understanding of anything of relevance to the term, rather than yourself. (I hadn't even registered your icon, lol!)
Like you, I read the CM at High School, and later on Kapital, Gramsci and some early anarchist stuff.
I would suggest communism is more than a movement though, the analysis of surplus and class relationships in particular, at least in my experience, from all those who would place themselves under the communist banner in some way is a distinctive and unifying feature that is distinctive.
And as an extension of that I would say it was more a way of looking at the world than a political system as such, in that there has never been anything approaching communism, so nobody really knows how it would actually work. Theory is one thing reality is another.
In that regard, I'd also say it's a highly utopian objective, and I've never been convinced of any of the methods I've come across for getting from the present to the objective and a lot of them seem to entail going down some well worn and not very pleasant paths I'm afraid.
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@Andrew-fy9wu Actually, they don't. They define what is biologically male and what is not biologically male.
Whilst the Y chromosome is considered male the X chromosome is not considered female as it is common to men an women, though of course it's a handy loose term to use.
The X chromosome contains about 900 genes, whilst the Y has 55, which provide 'maleness' specifically.
It is also important to remember that there are some people, though small in number, who are XXY oy XYY. Also, it is estimated that between 0.3 and 0.5% of the world's population are born intersex, where they may have XY chromosome, but their bodies have not developed the expected genitalia.
Furthermore, you will note I said "chromosomes are not the he all and end all" of things.
Gender is a combination of biological sex and social expectations, influences, pressures etc.
You cannot tell what chromosomes a person has just by looking at them, you only make assumptions based on the way the present or 'genderise: themselves.
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@dejankut109 As to why they are shelling the plant, it could well be a 'false flag' scenario. Though given that high voltage cables have been struck, I wonder if it is an attempt to separate the plant from Ukraine that has gone wrong.
I would equally ask you, why would Ukraine shell it? They have no troops near it. They are equally aware of the potential consequences. Whoever did, regardless of side, is insane.
Speaking of which, it appears you have not read the words of the russian commander of the force occupying the site. I shall let him speak for himself. Major General Valerii Vasyliev told his men that, "There will be either Russian land or a scorched desert here. As you know, we have mined all the important facilities of the Zaporizhia Nuclear Power Plant. And we’re not hiding it from the enemy. We warned them. The enemy knows that the station will be either Russian or no-one’s. We are prepared for the consequences of this step. And you, the liberating soldiers, must understand that we have no other choice. And if the toughest order comes – we must fulfil it with honour!"
Such a lunatic would be more than prepared to shell the site, IMO.
The russian military needs to arrest him before he potentially kills millions.
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@beewa8840 If that is the argument, then it would be an historically illiterate one if stated so bluntly.
Although the terms Palestine and Palestinian have been used for millennia, deriving from Philistia and Philistine, for most of history 'Palestine' referred to a general area of undefined boundaries - a bit like saying 'the Balkans' or 'Central Europe.' As such there was never a state of Palestine as one of the key features of a state is that it has defined borders.
This 'general area' concept is why, after WW1, the area controlled by Britain was called the 'Palestine Mandate,' encompassing what is now Israel/Palestine and Jordan.
In the documents surrounding the creation of Jordan, Israel and a putative 'Palestinian' state in the late 1940s the non-Jewish population were generally referred to as Arabs, not Palestinians, and the talk was of an Arab state not a Palestinian one.
It was only in 1964, with the creation of the PLO, that the term Palestinian became popularly used - Arafat specifically wanted a term that would unite the various, and sometimes disparate, groups of Arabs in the region, and which would provide some kind of national identity.
Thus there has never been a state of Palestine (even though a majority of countries now recognise one, it had never been admitted to the UN as such) and the concept of someone being a 'Palestinian,' as a national identity, is a comparatively novel one.
That there has never been a Palestinian state does not prevent someone from claiming Palestinian as their national identity - there are many nations without states and the terms 'nation' and 'state' are not necessarily co-terminus.
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