Comments by "No One" (@joermundgand) on "Labor Day Happened After Government Violently Attacked Striking Workers" video.

  1. Pieter Steenkamp. Yes that would entail education and healthcare for all in order to produce productive educated citizens and if this is afforded to all then there is no reason to differentiate based on racial, ethnic or religious lines, finita commedia. That is all there is to it.
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  2. Sergio Arreola. They won't hurt either.
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  3. Paul. Capitalism is just a word for the use of money in order to facilitate the movement of goods and to supply funds to endeavours that involves risk, the thing we have now is some absurd grotesque mutation of that. It no longer rewards risk, nor does it punish failure of the few who are allready at the top.
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  4. Golden Wizard. The 20th century was a century of war and terror and yes Commies did more than their fair share, Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Anarchists and Conservatives whacked a lot of humans beings, Belgium a deeply conservative country murdered about 10-20 million for god and country in the Congo, the Liberal Dutch whacked people in Indonesia by the millions to achieve a higher level of output in plantations and don't get me started on the Portuguese(Conservative), the Spanish(Conservative, from 1936 Fascist), the French(Liberal), the Germans(Conservative Imperial to 1919), the British(Liberal/Conservative), the Italians(Liberal/Conservative and from 1922 Fascists) and the Japanese(Conservative Imperial to 1945)and then finally you have the US(Liberal/Conservative) and it's Imperial conquests(The Philippines, Puerto Rico, tiny Guam, let's not forget Guam and other assorted overseas conquests, at least 30 million dead by Americans hands in total during the 20th, oh yeah), yup the 20th century was a butchery without peer in World history.
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  5. TheFunkadelicFan. But please, keep thinking of this old pirate as your friend, just like the right thinks of a glorified slumlord as their friend.
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  6. Dara Marc Sasmaz. "There were dozens of real socialist systems throughout history. The most famous and significant one was anarchist Spain in the 30s when millions of workers ran all industries themselves without bosses, owners or masters, but conviniently we never learn about that in school." And the Communists helped to destroy it by withholding arms and assassinating their leadership. They lauinched millitary attacks on their supposed allies in Catalonia. The Basques took a different tack with liberalism and the Communists attacked them too. Fascists and Communists are hostile to a free society of any kind or variety.
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  7. Pieter Steenkamp. Nice evasion, do you mind if I call BS on that, it will allways end in tears as long as Communists advocate for the use of state power to achieve Nirvana. Here's a novel idea, leave people alone, don't use force to try to make them do as you want and that's when things start to get a little better for everyone.
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  8. Dara Marc Sasmaz. I think you misunderstood me or I wasn't sufficiently clear, I agree with you, but I would like to include a warning that if the state is given to much control it too becomes a danger, I advocate for balance, right now the scales favor a static maintenance of the the power of the few versus the many. An adjustment is necessary to invigorate the system and once more afford the state more influence to balance the power of private capital. Capitalism is as I allready stated merely a word for something which you now have stated is a result of a war based economy, why did they adopt this economic model, they did it to invest in new revolutionary weaponry and at the same time they unknowingly created a class of experts to support this economy, the people who later became known as Burghers or Citizens and they were rewarded in turn with legal rights to protect them in order to sustain the model adopted by the princely state and thus there was an evolution of law and from there new civic ideas inspired by antiquity flourished laying the foundation for the modern nation state, the nation state in time required the use of mass armies to compete against other nation states with a similar process of further inclusion into the franchise ....do you see how we acquired our collective bargaining power with our sovereigns/executives? The nation state was necessary for labor movements to rise in the first place and the nation state is the only guarantee for the civic rights of the many against few, there is not yet any viable alternative to it. In regards to Capitalism being solely a product of the European princely state, I think that is too simplistic, Ming China, Mughal India and several other states in Asia developed similar systems in parallel, for reference as examples thereof see Jain, Gujrati, Omani and Sung/Ming banking and trading.
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  9. It's a bipartisan effort.
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  10. Personally I'm a fan of Luis Bunuel, dude had the skinny down on you lot.
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  11. Please note the flags carried by those old timers from way back, those flags are routinely burned by Antifa.
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  12. TheFunkadelicFan. Next comes the newest defense of the old pirate, "prove it". Do they hand you guys a script or are you just repeating the Poynter Institute agit prop?
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  13. Sergio Arreola. Gandhi and MLK would like a word.
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  14. BLM, KKK, Alt Right, Antifa. turning poor people against each other by funding horrible assholes.
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  15. AmericanNohbuddy ™. The left believes in humanitarian bombs, the right believes in liberty bombs, both sides advocates for bombing the shit out of non compliant nations.
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  16. Paul. The market is not a deity, it can be manipulated by either the state or by private actors, the key is to prevent any state or private actor to become too powerful so it can exert influence on it. At this point in time the market(I wish there existed a better word for it) is badly out of balance... Yeah that's all well and good, but the free movement of people can be a danger if it is completely unrestricted, this danger stems from humans being somewhat tribal, the introduction of large numbers of people into another area often undermines cohesion if the process is too abrupt. There is also the problem of a great many people who cannot prosper due to the fact that they for a myriad of reasons beyond their control cannot prosper, they cannot take advantage of the opportunities afforded those who have at birth a more favorable position, it is not simply a matter solely of will and desire, without opportunity will and desire are useless traits. A man in a desert may have the desire and will to leave it, but without water he is robbed of opportunity to do so.
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  17. Michael Fay. Incorrect, Nordic counties teach it.
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  18. Golden Wizard. I seem to remember the Brits in total whacked about 35 million(23 million of which were systematically starved to death in a punitive measure against the Bengali) Indians in the 20th century before Indian independence, yup, the 20th century was a horror show. Very fond of wrapping People in barb wire and dousing them in gasoline and turning people into living candles were the Brits, they even invented the concentration camp.
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  19. Golden Wizard. Here you are friend, a bit of light reading, remember to include all the famines caused by mismanagement by various ideologically motivated groups/nations into the total. http://www.clingendael.nl/sites/default/files/20060800_cdsp_occ_leitenberg.pdf
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  20. Golden Wizard. 109,032 Iraqi Civilian deaths according to the Pentagon caused by US forces from 2004 to 2009, way to go man, do you think they are honest about the body count, do you think more have died since? But at least the US is ahead in the 21st century, in this century the Commies are way behind, so are the Fascists and the Nazis, good old Conservatives started that war, those deaths are all theirs, every single one, the Liberals racked up a good score in Libya, about 50k, they are trying to catch up and then you've got your Islamic nutjobs working overtime to excel, racking up a impressive 100k. And remember, these are only the violent deaths by bullet, bomb and bayonet(probably a couple of thousands at most by sharp pointy metal).
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  21. Golden Wizard. Hahahahaha, they couldn't take over a minibus while driving a Ferrari. Don't you get it boyo, there are no good guys, just a sea of bad guys and you are also on a team full of bad guys. Antifa can at most cause a couple of thousand deaths in the US and don't worry, at most they'll whack 50-100... Hey if mismanagement is to be counted into the tally buddy, how many people died in Houston due to that hurricane? Those are all yours, piss poor preparation and inadequate flood protection by a Conservative state house and governor, tell you what, I'll give the Liberals a third of the dead, the mayor is a Democrat.
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  22. Dara Marc Sasmaz. Exactly, but the believers go haywire when you tell them that their deity is a hall of mirrors.
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  23. Moyenne Bourgeoisie
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  24. So bye bye to every prominent proponent of an ideology, every single author with a proof reader, they all have to go, they own their own means of production and they have others working for them. You're a veritable vision of Alaric.
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  25. 1 : middle class members of the bourgeoisie; also, plural in construction : members of the middle class how the bourgeoisie are represented in the novel 2 : a class or group of people with social behavior and political views held to be influenced by private-property interest : a social order dominated by capitalists or bourgeois (see 2bourgeois 2)
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  26. Leah Dijon. A serious question, how did you become so binary?
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  27. jaluck. Soros!!!, have a drink and think about this, why would a currency speculator who bankrupted entire nations for his personal gain fund movements who commit violent acts which portray the left in a manner that causes many to find the left as whole distasteful? Soros!!!, now have another drink.
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  28. 1992 pound short for starters young padawan, but why don't you just read the wiki on him and try to imagine how many lives were crushed by Georgie Boy Antics for fun and profit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros
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  29. TheFunkadelicFan. Great Britain was bailed out by the other members of the EU silly child. Other countries drained of capital by Georgie, Malaysia, Indonesia, Sri Lanka, Chile, Argentina, Paraguay, Greece(twice, lol), Uzbekistan etc....
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  30. TheFunkadelicFan. So the answer is, you are to lazy to read, we're done.
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  31. Redsyrup. Her name isn't Rachel Maddow, It's Fraulein Rachel Creutzfeldt-Jacobs. And off course the servant of corruption won't talk about anything truly significant, she's paid to ignore reality and weave a tapestry of division and hate.
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  32. Pieter Steenkamp. Idiot. Read. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creutzfeldt%E2%80%93Jakob_disease
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  33. Pieter Steenkamp. Relevant part of Wiki. Presumably the people became infected through prion contaminated beef from cattle with subclinical atypical BSE, which has a very long incubation period. CJD usually affects people aged 45–75, most commonly appearing in people between the ages of 60–65. The exception to this is the more recently recognised 'variant' CJD (vCJD), which occurs in younger people.
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  34. Pieter Steenkamp. A backhanded compliment, for shame, you seemed dullard and emerge a dolt. Rachel Maddow must either be brain damaged or a liar sprouting her BS and so I speculated that she suffers from a debilitating disease that affects her mind.
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  35. Pieter Steenkam. Why not.
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  36. Pieter Steenkamp. Have you considered that a lot of people you've dubbed as reactionaries, Nazis, Fascists and bad bad bad people perhaps wasn't, maybe your imagination has run amok?
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  37. Pieter Steenkamp. You just dubbed me as such asshat.
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  38. Pieter Steenkamp. A good rule of thumb is strive to create a society in which the poorest and weakest are afforded opportunity. Skin color is irrelevant, so is religion or lack thereof.
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  39. John Barlow. Fascism though awful is at least an ethos, neo liberalism is another word for nihilism.
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  40. Dara Marc Sasmaz. Capitalism isn't an ideology or a belief system, it's basically just the law of the jungle when taken to it's most extreme reiteration. It's not for anything, nor is it against anything, it is a the closest thing to nihilism in action you can imagine.
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  41. Pieter Steenkamp. You gotta think of Communism and Fascism as being ideologies with a very clearly defined us vs them kinda thinking, comparable to religion really, gotta achieve heaven on Earth by any means necessary, that includes your state capitalism(which was in truth a continuation of Czarist policies absent Boyars). The Communists allways fail to realize this simple truth, even the people who disagrees with them are also a part of "The People" and so they become repressive and anal retentive in their micromanaging of resources, commodities and labor. In the end state capitalism in its most extreme becomes their tool of choice and then you can say goodbye to individuality and All Allo to mediocrity. That is why they have to weed out the non believers who prevent "The People" from attaining Earthly Nirvana. Their rationale for doing so is simple, it goes as follows "look at what you made us do!!!".
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  42. Pieter Steenkamp. And when the skies doesn't open up and greed and envy isn't eliminated in Paradise on Earth the believers start blaming the other, the outsider and the defenseless, enter the reeducation camp you evil non believers, repent and Communist heaven will appear to benefit all.
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  43. Pieter Steenkamp. Individual risk rewarded, the risk for a group is minimized. Absent an alternative to currency there is no viable replacement at this time. Doubly an idiot.
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  44. Dara Marc Sasmaz. Flaws in your analysis. States act with brutal force, see monopoly of violence and the Leviathan. Most Corporations/Foundations/Companies are owned/controlled by multiple entities and individuals. Capitalism has no fixed definition, the definition depends on what school of thought you adhere too, it is simply a product born out of the need to ease the exchange of goods, everything else are byproducts from the development of ever more sophisticated technology and a evolution of law. I agree that companies when they become cartels exert the role of the state and the state can exert the role of a company and then they both become oppressive, in the past some companies had the accoutrements of a state(VOC as an example or Casa De Indias.)This is a useful warning from the past against allowing private actors to much power over the "market". The key is to attain a beneficial balance, go too far towards either polarity and the system(irregardless of name) becomes stagnant in technological development and intellectually inert. We both agree that balance is at this point in time is tilting towards the few(the owners) and away from the common good embodied by a functioning democratic state.
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  45. Dara Marc Sasmaz. Stop with the ideologies/slogans/narratives/buzzwords and be reasonable and rational, will this make life better for people in general and will it at the same time make people more free, if the answer is yes to both then advocate for it. And no goddamn killing, the 20th century was bad enough, no need to make the 21st even worse. Edit: There will allways be some hierarchy, it's preferably to have more organic hierarchies as opposed to the purely systemic Second edit. Organize people publicly with clear easily defined goals usually works, it has to for something, not merely in opposition to something, anger might be a good motivator, but hope is better in the long run. And most importantly take over local governance first, running for job as the big dog is useless if there is no infrastructure to sustain it. Under no circumstances run as R or D, those corrupt parties will automatically eat your soul alive, all 21 grams of it. Finally setup cooperatives with anybody who wishes to participate, doesn't matter if it's Christian Conservative or a Socialist, personal beliefs are personal and it's all good as long that individual is willing to reach a consensus and contribute towards the aim of becoming more self sufficient in concert with others as whole human being. Just avoid extremists, they get preachy as fuck.
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