Comments by "No One" (@joermundgand) on "Glenn Greenwald on "Dearth of Evidence" Linking Russia to WikiLeaks Release of DNC Emails" video.

  1. Glenn's smile is telling is it not, he's thinking that dear old Amy and her friends at the Knight Foundation/Poynter Institute must be seething about having to report on this....
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  2. David M Two Republicans agree, Graham and McCain and it does not detract from my point does it. There are no operatives to be exposed, this is forensics, not Humint.
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  3. JP Brewer They are puppets for anybody who pays them, left or right, same greedy soulless bastards. Maybe Graham can ask, who is this 4chan, that would be a laugh.
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  4. David M Agreed.
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  5. They can't, they are as usually lying.
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  6. Dejay Rezme You're one of those the ends justifies the means types, throw away the rule book and let's get cracking. Need to make those shareholders happy selling bombs and drugs, let's just be the biggest back biters we can be. Badges, we don't need no stinking badges, it's just business, ethics be damned. Invoking Goodwin's law here is low maaaaaaaaan.
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  7. 1a5S4o Y54 True
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  8. David M The lack of consensus is right before you. You just saw one dissenting opinion out of many.
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  9. David M If this evidence is so damning, should it be shared with the general public then? Why is it not? Could it be that there is no evidence?
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  10. David M 2 senators who have a vested interest in getting a no fly zone in Syria agreed.. For something as monumental as this publicly available intel with sources are needed. Not some bogus report that mindless drones the word we assess.
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  11. David M Which again is not evidence, but merely hearsay.....
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  12. Various Curious Forget it, he must be CTR....
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  13. David M No he did not, you are still buying the narrative of choice, I loathe both sides equally.
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  14. David M And not once did you bother to discuss the content of the leaks, which is a tell, why turn the discussion away from the actual content...
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  15. David M No, I addressed your shilling first and then I raised another subject. I assess that you are unable to face this simple fact, this is a smokescreen to keep the establishment democrats in power.
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  16. David M And this is another complete falsehood to serve the usual partisans.... Provide actual proof before rebooting the cold war... The DNC got hacked by still unknown actors.... There are no proofs....
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  17. David M It's because of oil you monumental partisan, Hillary was supported by the Saudis and all the other Gulf State monarchies. Her election would not promote American interests at all. An assessment is not proof, it's not certainty, anybody who thinks so have their head so firmly buried in the sand that actual evidence would be meaningless. Trump is making peace with the intelligence community at some point does not constitute proof either. We are meant to discuss this BS and not the contents, why is that?
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  18. David M It's a game ffs, this time the game is wait for the 20th.
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  19. David M Stein does not understand how the world works, the US needs oil like a meth head needs meth, without a steady reliable source of oil everything will turn really bad in a biblical fashion quite quickly. Saudi Arabia is no longer reliable, so who is? There is a old power structure in Washington and New York accustomed to relying on the Saudi meth, but this old dealer is running low, then what? A new power structure enters with a radical new idea, let's get a new dealer, this horrifies the old guard who has a lot to lose. And still without proof of foreign involvement to benefit the new power structure any assessment remains meaningless.
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  20. David M There is actual proof Clinton being corrupt and receiving financial and other aid from Saudi Arabia and Qatar and of her and her cohorts being aware of Saudi and Qatari support for ISIS and Al Qaeda rebranded. Amble proof in the material provided by Wikileaks. I do not support Stein, she is completely unreliable, her recount efforts proved that beyond all doubt. The focus on the Russia narrative reveals support for the status quo, Clinton was the candidate of the status quo, so even without actively supporting the power structure behind her you are being a partisan for the old guard. That makes you a shill, an unwitting shill. You are compliant and unaware.
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  21. David M You do realise that Clinton had knowledge about and how she aided ISIS and Al Qaeda in Syria could be considered treason. Trump's conflicts of interest are not treasonous, they are unethical. There is actual proof of Clinton breaking the Logan act. In Trump's case there is a bogus repetition from the CIA with no more than an assessment. You remain compliant and unaware.
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  22. David M Listen, if you haven't paid a visit to Wikileaks yet and downloaded the entire relevant material and gone through them, then this would be a good time, especially before a new attorney general is sworn in. 17 agencies agree, except they don't, they still don't. 2 republican senators agree and they both have close ties with the same old power structure... If the evidence becomes publicly available and if it's conclusive then this argument will become moot. You are becoming even more compliant and unaware.
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  23. David M The FBI states that they have not had access to the DNC servers and are therefore unable to support the assessment, the NSA is lukewarm at best, deferring to the CIA without offering any support to the CIA assessment Wikileaks. that's the source, do your own homework. I painstakingly read every single email, right down to the most trivial ones. But I do believe a candidate funded by foreign governments who sponsor terrorist organisations and who at the same time is supplying these governments with armaments to supply these terrorist organisation who attack American interests and citizens to be engaging in treason.
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  24. David M Which they have not made publicly available ffs, they present an assessment without evidence, how am I to agree to accept a statement without proof, it's all make believe conjurers tricks. Seriously, do your own reading, Podesta emails, DNC leaks, Turkey emails.
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  25. David M Here's a helpful link, start reading or stay unaware and compliant. https://wikileaks.org/
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  26. David M Reince Priebus statements were carefully worded lawyerism, it provides an opening for either way, he's a servant of power who makes a vague homage to power in his statement, but offers again no proof. You really are quite lazy are you not, you prefer easy 5 minutes soundbites and the Iliad for dummies, TLDR kind of human being. You remain compliant and unaware.
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  27. David M https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3774 ISIS, AL Qaeda funding. https://theintercept.com/2016/08/25/why-did-the-saudi-regime-and-other-gulf-tyrannies-donate-millions-to-the-clinton-foundation/ Donations from the Gulf States to the Clinton Foundation. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-13/saudi-arabia-has-funded-20-hillarys-presidential-campaign-saudi-crown-prince-claims http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/julian-assange-clinton-foundation-isis-same-money-saudi-arabia-qatar-funding-a7397211.html Funds to the Clinton campaign from the Gulf States. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-26/hillary-clintons-state-department-approved-165-billion-arms-deals-clinton-foundation Arms sale.
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  28. David M That's the short end of the stick, now go find a bigger club. You remain compliant and unaware.
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  29. David M Compliant and unaware. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3599
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  30. David M No, that not what I claimed and you know it. I have now provided you with proofs that she was bought to look the other way and serve the interests of an inherently hostile foreign power. Do you understand what an autocratic monarchy is? These donors are heads of state who support a political candidate in return they get what, milk and cookies? Your are even more compliant and unaware than before.
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  31. David M When Trump becomes the president and if he continues to maintain ties with these countries as a public servant, then yes, Houston we have a problem. But that is as of yet in the future, though he most likely will act in similar fashion to Clinton.
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  32. David M Foreign power backing terrorist organisation donates funds to a candidate who in return approves arms sales and advocates for a no fly zone which benefits the aforementioned organisation. And if Trump does the same thing when he becomes a public servant then he is doing the same.
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  33. David M Now if this is not perfectly clear to you by now allow me to illuminate you. I loathe them both, equally, but only one held public office before and used this power in a way that in a sane world would be called treason. We do not live in a sane world. I cannot be anymore clearer on this subject. Now please wake up and become aware and non compliant lest the density of your grey matter becomes as dense as kindling.
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  34. David M They donated in 2008 and 2016, wakey wakey.
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  35. David M Exactly, do you understand that sides are not important, at this point in time the US is so hopeless corrupt that corruption is applauded by the political and financial elite. If even one is punished severely for it would it not be an example to the others.
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  36. David M Clinton must be punished in order to keep others on their toes and in order to restore at least some public trust and if actual proof of Trump acting in the same manner surfaces, then he to must fall and for the same reason.
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  37. David M I'll see if can find it, but I believe Saudi Arabia donated about 25 million directly to the 2016 campaign and probably more through intermediaries. Can't remember how much the other gulf states donated precisely, but it was quite significant amounts also.
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  38. David M Even MSM hacks are forced to report on the obvious now. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-2016-campaign-affects-clinton-foundation-foreign-donation-policy-changes/
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  39. And surely this gentlemen is a source of trust. https://www.democracynow.org/2016/8/29/greenwald_why_did_saudi_regime_other
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  40. David M Actually it's publicly available information, disclosed contributions, bundlers, etc.. Saudi royalty owns stock in certain companies who then donate to Clinton, that's an intermediary link....
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  41. David M I suggest you start here and do some basic calculus. http://www.fec.gov/disclosurep/pnational.do
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  42. David M Agreed, but remember, pour encourager les autres....
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  43. David M Agreed, but focus on the most vulnerable target first, that's not Trump is it.
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  44. David M That's why this Russia narrative is so annoying, it's a distraction from the bipartisan corruption.
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  45. David M The Democrats are less fickle in their support of Clinton, get one down and the floodgates open, Trumps support is wafer thin... Much like in chess, kill the queen and checkmate the king.
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  46. David M Stratagem. One fall they all fall, Trumps connection are yet not as well proven as Clinton's, he's just as bad, but because he has no prior public office makes him harder to pin down. Tactic, be like Claudius with Trump, nemesis follows hubris.
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  47. David M Exactly, let him do it, much like you tire a fish on the line before you let the hook sink in and turn the wheel. I'm a cynic, being cynical has it's flaws, but also advantages. Compare Clinton to a crowbar, Trump to a chest.
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  48. David M Well, this is it for me, think about the long game, which game would you rather win.
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  49. Dejay Rezme To betray, to commit treason. So backstabbing is now okay, got it.
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  50. Dejay Rezme Besides a citizen who betrays his country fighting against his countrymen for Nazi Germany would be what? Just confused in need of a hug and some milk and cookies.... Or an actual traitor. It's all relative to the situation.
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  51. wikingagresor Agreed
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  52. Dejay Rezme Treason is linked to the concept of states as well, princely state, territorial state, state nation, nation state, do you advocate for the end of the nation state?
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  53. Dejay Rezme That is a classic cop out, lawyerism at it finest, the inane doublespeak of the relativist. If you believe it for the future, then you believe in it's abolishment in the now. I also believe in transparency and in exposing corruption, but if Assange was a US citizen he would be committing treason to a illegitimate regime.
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  54. Dejay Rezme Or the nation state experiences a renaissance, all this is for the future, there is no replacement for the nation state....
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  55. Dejay Rezme The nation state may even become stellar states in time..
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  56. Dejay Rezme And even in this future there will still be treason and traitors... It will never change...
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  57. Dejay Rezme And Libtards and SJW's :)
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  58. Dejay Rezme It makes no difference what labels idiots wear, they all remain idiots and they will always be with us...
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  59. The Devils of the Xin Xi Xu Dangerous precedent... To apply it ad verbatim...
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  60. Dejay Rezme You mean he's been watching CNN?
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  61. ***** Usually these groups have benign sounding names and horrible mob driven agendas, meaning they act as mindless beasts.
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