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  115. To put an end to it, here are the true facts. Muslims live there for about 1,300 years. Most of them arrived from Arabia and were called Arabs. They arrived in the M.E and also to a region there called Palestina or Syria- Palestina, a name which the Romans gave to that region in about 135 AD after the last Jewish revolt against them. Jews also lived there for about 3,300 years. Some time they were the majority and sometime the minority but they lived there consecutively all those years. All that time there was no state names Palestina, and no Arabs called Palestinians till about the 30th of the 20th Century. At the 19th century this region, which was under Ottoman rule, underwent a transformation. Some European countries and also America gained a foothold there and opened diplomatic consulates there. Many Pilgrims and tourists started to arrive there and needed Accommodations. Many Churches started to be built and also monasteries and hospitals and other public buildings. All this needed skilled workers that the locals could not provide. This demand for skilled workers caused a certain migration from other Muslim countries who joined the local Arabs and after a while their families joined them as well making their numbers to start increasing. After those small waves of workers and builders making the Economy there better, many others started to follow as migrant workers. The main waves started to arrive in the last 150 – 100 years making them what is now known as "Palestinians". It's very easy to trace where they arrived from by their surenames, like Massarwa and El-Fayumh from Egypt, Bagdadi from Iraq, Halabi from Syria and many more. Just as the same time also waves of Jews started to arrive from Eastern Europe and from Yemen for their own reasons. They bought lands from the local Arab landlords and began to establish farms and small villages based on agriculture. For lack of agricultural knowledge, the Jews had to employ local Arabs which caused more Arab migrants to arrive and work in Jewish farms and the others Assimilated among the local Arab population.. After the British got the Mandat over Palestine, and after the Jews succeeded with agriculture and with light Industry, more Jews also continued to arrive and the land began to flourish and so the Economics. The local Arabs didn't like it and started riots against the Jews killing many of them. The Arabs also started a revolt against the British blaming them for letting Jews in. The leader of this revolt was Hag Amin El-Husseini who was the Mufti - their spiritual leader. He was the first to call this region Palestine as a state, and the local Arabs, Palestinians, in order to united them under a nationality of their own. This is the short history of the so-called Palestinians who claim living there for thousands of years.
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  332.  @Khaled4life  I have an intention by asking you when did the war start. Well, it started one day after the UN decision to split PA between the Arabs and and the Jews November 1947). About six months before Israel was founded (May 1948) and the invasion of the Arab Armies to Israel one day after. The Arabs all over Israel start attacking Israeli vehicle causing many victims and cutting off the roads to several Kibbutzim in the Galilee and in central Israel. The most significant act was cutting off the ways to Jerusalem. Trying to take off the blockades, especially the road to Jerusalem continue to cost many lives of Jews. There was no other way but to take military measures against the Arab Attackers. While that operation to release Jerusalem, there were Israeli attacks against the Arabs armed forces who were staying in the Arab villages which surrounded to Jerusalem. The most famous village was Dir Yassin. The so called massacre there which took place in April 1948, about one month before Israel declared its freedom. That event effected other Arab villages and started the expulsions. Arabs leaders at the same time called the Arabs to leave and come back after the Arab Armies will finish with the Jews if they'll dare to declare independence. That the other reason for the expulsion of Arab from mainly mixed towns like Haifa and nearby ones like Jaffa. Unfortunately the Israeli Army won the war the Arab refugees are staying in other Arab countries till today. That's is my answer to your comment. Now the issue of the Jewish refugees. In 1927 a group of Jews from Jerusalem bought a large piece of land between Jerusalem and Hebron. The sellers were ten Arabs who owned it and they were payed with good money and the Jews got the papers of that transaction. Four Jewish settlements start building their houses there and to plough the fields there. All four of them became flourishing villages. When the Arabs start blocking the ways twenty year later as I told you, the way to these four also was blocked. On the night of 16.1.1948 a group of 35 Israeli soldiers tried to sneak their way in order to reach these four villages which were surrounded by Arab Villages who kept shooting at them and they start to run out of emanation. Unfortunately they were located and all the 35 were massacred by about 2,000 Arabs. After the British soldiers brought their bodies to Jerusalem, it was impossible to recognize even one of them. They've been severely abused some of them with their Penis in their mouth. One day before the declaration of the independence of Israel, these four villages were attacked and destroyed causing death to the defenders, men and women (the children were evacuated a short time before that). That piece of land returned to Israel after the six days war and now there are many villages and small town. It's called in Hebrew Gush Etzion and you can read about it in Wikipedia. There were other cases like this one during the 1948 war. Now to the Jewish refugees from Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Iran and some more. While the war of 1948 many riots against the Jews in these countries occurred and many Jews died then. They were expulsed rom these countries and was permitted to take with them only their clothes and a small amount of money. They had left there all their properties, like houses, shops businesses and had to fled before been killed. Israel absorbed these refugees and now they are a large part of the Jews in Israel taking place in all areas of life. What did the Arab countries do with they own refugees? They let them rotten refugees camps and to be used as bargaining chips till these very days.
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  1193.  @toasted_donut2308  A nice argue. Still: 1. Why did they wake up and demanded a free state from Israel? Why not from Jordan for 19 years? 2. There is a decision of the UN from 29.11.1947 which says that that land has to be divided between Israel and the Palestinians. Israel excepted it but not the PA's who started right away with riots against the Jews in Israel. In 1948 also five Arab Armies invaded Israel from all directions. Sorry that Israel won that war. 3. In 1967 four Arab countries gathered on the borders of Israel and Israel had to fend them off. Jordanian king believed the Egyptian leader who told him that his forces are on the way to Tel Aviv. The king of Jordan believed him and started to bomb Jerusalem, Tel Aviv and also my home town from the West bank in order to get a share of Israel after the victory. Unfortunately he lost and left the West bank. This was in short. The PA's have their Autonomy and their own leaders and Israel do not interfere their business. The trouble is that they want a free country for themselves but they have no means to run it since they are divided among themselves . They have no Economy, no Minerals, no jobs, just nothing. Who is going to feed them? look at Lebanon in the last years and you'll see what will become of them. Look at the Gaza Strip. They are in the same situation for 74 years. No Economy , no Minerals, no jobs. Who is feeding them all these years? The unerw"a of the UN, which means, you. behind It's not a wonder. They can see Israel flourishing in any field, one of the best Economies in the world, Agriculture, Science, Hi Tech and much more and they want it for themselves. Why not?
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  1502.  @kenkaneki9138  Here are some comments for the new history here. 1. Israel has constantly stated that the territories in its hands are used as a bargaining chip. An Arab country that signs a peace agreement will receive back the territories held by Israel. The "historian" here writes that after the war Sinai was returned to the Egyptians and therefore Israel did not win the war. Real history has a decisive fact that this is not the case. Sinai was returned to Egypt in 1982, eight years, yes eight years, after the end of the war. All this after the Egyptian president offered Israel to sign a peace agreement, and only then, according to Israel's policy, did he receive Sinai back. YES, that's true that Moshe Dayan said it but fortunately, Israel had a very talented General by the name of Ariel Sharon who managed to find a loophole between two Egyptian armies and cross the Suez Canal and transfer the war to Egypt. If you call it an Egyptian victory, then let it be. Here are two another lies of our educated "historian". In the years 2000 when the Israeli PM was Ehud Barak and in 2008 when Ehud Olmert was a PM, the Palestinians were offered back all the West Bank for a peace treaty, they refused to sign it twice. By their leaders Yasser Arafat and by Abu Masen. Why? Because it was against their agenda: "Palestine from the river to the sea clean of Jews". Did you say that the Palestinians accepted Israel as a legitimate state? How come no one have heard about it. When, where and by whom it was said?
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  1934.  @arturferrao7353  Now we can see that Jabotinsky was right in his opinion about the Arabs and what is needed for Jews to live in peace with them in this country. In his opinion, the leaders of the Jews at that time were of the opinion that it was necessary to approach the Arabs in their demands for self-determination, to get to know their mentality and thus to get closer to them so that in the end they would accept the Jews and live with them in peace. Jabotinsky did not think so. In his opinion, one should not come to a discussion with the Arabs in an inferior way. They must be put in place and let them understand that the Jews are not going anywhere and that they will act with force against force. The leaders of the Jews did not accept his opinion and worked for Arab recognition of them, something that had not happened until now, only brutal acts against the Jew. You said that the Arabs were colonized. They were not. Evey Inch of the Jewish lands were bougt by good money. It's not like the European countries which took over many African countries for free, and also other countries. The same goes also for the US. They did better by putting the Indians into refugee camps and call it reservations till today. Israel has at least a historical connection to this land. Only after October 7th did many Jews were aware to what Jabotinki wrote and change their attitude towards the Arabs and unfortunately accepted the fact that there would never be peace between these two peoples. Which means the "Iron walls" of Jabotinsky. Pity.
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  2296.  @cyberanon2463  What the Ambassador meant was that the Israel has the right to get weapon and Aircrafts in that amount. Still not cash. Why does the US do it? I'll give you an answer in a moment. Regarding your comment about the Abrams tank. Well, this is not an Abrams tank. The last war an American tank took part in an Israeli war was in 1956 and it was an old Sherman tank of ww2. The "Abrams" tank that you mentioned was an Israeli tank by the name of Merkavah (Coach...). In 2006 it still was type 2. Today it's type 4 and also 5. This is the best tank in the world and the most protective one. The US bought from Israel many of that protective systems for it's Abrams tanks. Now, why the US is so generous toward Israel? US Aid is only 1.5% of the annually Israeli budget. A drop in the sea. Israel is not getting any money as other countries do. They can use it only in the US, for Missiles, Jets and other kind of weapon. If you want to know what the US is getting back from Israel, you just have to look at the annually report of the American Foreign department. I read the edition of 2019 and I saw how much American money was saved by Israel. You will be surprised but it reaches many of Billions US$. The F-16 manufacturer said that since the 80th Israel sent to them 180 improvements of that Jet saving them years of developments and many Billions of US$. When Israel is buying from the US a kind of weapon or an American System, other countries follow knowing that they do not need to look for this kind of weapon elsewhere making the US more Billions of US$. Israel got the F-35 and was the first one to get it. Did you ask yourself why? Because Israel is the one which can test it under real conditions and to offer free improvement saving the US many more Billions of US$. What about the Intelligence that Israel is giving the Americans for free saving lives and much money to the US. benefit These are just a few examples out of many of how America is benefited from Israel. Can you tell me one country which America is benefited more? Do you think now that America is paying Israel too much value? Get yourself the above Annually report and you'll be wiser.
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  2329.  @Amélie-r7r  A nice list, it's just a shame that it has no historical and factual basis. The Philistines who came from the islands of the Aegean Sea thousands of years ago and settled in what is now called the Gaza Strip and the surrounding area, disappeared already in the days of King David about 1,900 years ago. There were never people called Palestinians in this area unless they were transparent and no one saw them until the 20th century. No historian or pilgrim or traveler saw such creatures, nor mentioned them in their writings. If there were people with that name they would be mentioned by name. Herodotus and other historians wrote only about the Philistines I mentioned. The Romans were the first to call this region Palestina in order to obliterate the rebellious Judah in them. The Romans also called this region Syria-Palestine or Syria Prima and Syria Secunda. Now you can ask Syria to give them back all their territories and call it Palestina, why not? No one claimed that this land was empty. There were Arabs, Jewish Christians, Druze and more. But this land was not inhabited. You can read the book of Mark Twain and other travelers describing a desolate land, without water, without shade, without trees and bare mountains. They rode for many hours until they met a man. During the Ottoman times, this region was a deserted and neglected corner in the Ottoman Empire. Even Holy Jerusalem was like that. Only poor beggars and sick children in every corner. At some point the Ottomans started calling it Palestine following the Romans. Before that, the Crusaders called it the Holy Land. When the British occupied the area, they did not change the name of it and issued passports and used the name Palestine in their documents. There was even a Palestinian soccer team, but all the players were exclusively Jewish. This team that represented this illumination also had a flag with Palestine written on top of a Star of David. There were never people called Palestinians in this area unless they were transparent and no one saw them until the 20th century. No historian or pilgrim or traveler saw such creatures, nor mentioned them in their writings. If there were people with that name they would be mentioned by name. Herodotus and other historians wrote only about the Philistines I mentioned. The Romans were the first to call this region Palestine in order to obliterate the rebellious Judah in them. The Romans also called this region Syria-Palestine or Syria Prima and Syria Secunda. Now you can ask Syria to give them back all their territories and to it Palestina, why not? No one claimed that this land was empty. There were Arabs, Jewish Christians, Druze and more. But this land was not inhabited. You can read the book of Mark Twain and other travelers describing a desolate land, without water, without shade, without trees and bare mountains. They rode for many hours until they met a human being. You claimed that there was a Palestinian state. How come that no one have heard about it. Who were their Prime Ministers/Presidents, can you show me a coin of this state, an Archeological finding? How they fit in? When the British occupied the area, they did not change the name of it and issued passports and used the name Palestine in their documents. There was even a Palestinian soccer team, but all the players were exclusively Jewish. This team that represented this illumination also had a flag with Palestine written on top of a Star of David. You also claim that Israel conquered the "state" of Palestine in 1948. Why do you think this happened? Half a year earlier, the United Nations decided to divide this land between Israel and the Arabs. The Israelis agreed, while the Arabs opposed it and started a war against Israel. They also called on the surrounding countries to send an army to destroy Israel. Fortunately for Israel, this did not happen, and it was able to repel the invaders. You claim that Israel killed thousands of Palestinians. Well, after Deir Yassin the local Arabs did not wait for the Jews to arrive but simply left everything behind and fled. They even did not see a single Israeli soldier. Another reason for their departure was their leaders who encourage them to hurry and leave until the Arabs destroyed the Jews and pushed them to the sea, and then they could return to their homes and to the homes of the Jews. Those who listened to them are today refugees, and those who did not, are today citizens with equal rights in Israel and enjoy a good life there. • The Arabs in this place have no advantage and rights over the Jews there. Most of the Arabs who today are called "Palestinians" arrived there in the late 19th and early 20th centuries as migrant workers and settled there. You can identify them even today where they arrived from by their surnames. At exactly this time, waves of Jews from Eastern European countries and from Yemen also began to immigrate. The Jews bought lands from the Arab owners for good money and established villages and farms. So the lesson learned from this is that whoever starts a war should take into account that he may also lose as in this case, and he has no choice but to make accusations only against himself and not blame others, as you do. Let me suggest you to read the history of that region of the last 200 years starting 1831. After reading it you'll get wiser.
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  2682.  Yeahweat thebuffet  In what way Israel keep Arab states undeveloped? What countries? When did Israel bombed Palestinians children? Can you tell me when? now it's going to be a long one but short history facts. Israel has the same right to live in this area as much as the so called Palestinians and much more. That is the reason the U.N. decided to divide it between Israel and Palestine. Jews lived in this area for more than 3,200 years. Much time before the Islam went out the Arabian deserts and took it by sward. Jews lived in Jerusalem, Hebron (Halil), Tiberias, Safed, Gaza, Jaffa, Haifah, Acre and in many more villages in the Galilee. When the first newcomers Jews arrived in Israel in about 140 years ago there were not many citizens in that no water no shade land. When they established their new farms they needed skilled workers for it since the settlers were not used to be farmers and the local Arabs did the work . After a while, after establishing more farms, there were not enough Arabs for this kind of work. At that time many new Arab workers arrived from other countries around. Now they claim it as it was their for aged, even living there less than the Jews. Israel didn't take lands of the Palestinians. They gave it to Israel. When one start war he is risking himself loosing it to the other side. Unfortunately that exactly what had happen with Palestinians. Israel made its land flourish like Paradise. No wander the Palestinians wants it for themselves. I'm sure that if they got it, it will become a desert again as it was till the 19th Century when the Jews massive Zionism movement establishments manage to do. Sorry, you have to get yourself a good history book and study this issue.
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  3012.  @toasted_donut2308  You brought up some interesting points. It's pity that almost no one is true. I'll mark my comments in red letters. I's going to be a long one, have patience. To spread lies is very easy and it takes few words to do it, but to deny it, it takes much longer time. 1) they wanted to be with Jordan, now they dont want to be with Israel. So what, Its their choice. Who told you that they wanted to be with Jordan? The Hashemite Kingdom the whole part of East Bank and a smaller part in the West Bank. All of that was given to Jordan by the British as a token of gratitude after getting help from them in WW1 (see Laurence of Arabia). The local citizens which are called Palestinians, has nothing to do with it. They lived there for a long time and suddenly they had to accept foreign rule expelled from Saudi Arabia. In the 50's they raised up against Jordan and they were brutally suppressed by them after killing many of the PA's. The locals hated the King. When Israel took it over, the Israeli soldiers were received with candies and rice. How do I know it? Well, I was in Jerusalem at that time. After about 20 years, the new generation who did know nothing of the local history started to act against Israel. If you'll ask privately a Pa where he rather would like to live, he will tell you in Israel and he knows why. If you'll ask him the same question in public, the answer will be the opposite. He also knows why. Yes, there are difficulties because of the Terrorists but Israel has to defend itself. If you believe that after they will have their own state there it will be peace, you are naïve. The Terrorists wants all the area from the Jordan river to the sea clean of Jews. 2) The UN should not dictate what 1 country does with it's land. If the UN decided tomorrow that Israel no longer exists, will you pack your bags and leave. The UN is not a high court which in an orderly state must abide by its decisions. When the UN decided to split this region between Israel and the Arabs, Israel excepted it but not the Arabs who started war against Israel so do not tell me about the UN decisions. 3) Palestine has no control over the west-bank to build their economy. Israel has settlements across the region that own all the arable land, the IDF runs security their and operates many checkpoints. The PA controls only a small portion of the West-bank and even they are just Israeli puppets. Reading this only shows me how you know nothing about the West Bank. There is almost no Economy since they have no sources for it. Almost no Minerals, no means to produce reasonable Electricity and the unemployment reaches to high levels since many of them do not work. They have little trade, and some primitive agriculture and tiny industry. Israel does not control Arab lands and has no so many settlements to control all the region. The IDF has check points only for its security. From 1967 till 1987 there was no even one of it since there were no Terrorists actions. Thae Arabs live all over the region and it's not a small one. If a PA's state will be declared, they citizens will not have even basic products to use even not bread. They will have to ask for help from the rich Arab states in order to support them. Declaring a free state in the West Bank will be a disaster for the Arab citizens there. Freedom is not all, you need to have sources to give sevices to the people there and they do not have it. 4) Palestinians have to pay taxes to both the PA and Israel. High taxes means no one wants to open businesses or invest. I do not know what taxes the Pa's have to pay in the West Bank or in Gaza. In Israel Pa workers (there are about 160,000) are paying taxes exactly as an Israeli worker. On the other hand, their rights are also the same as Israelis. It means Health care, pension, annually vacation, paying for days of illness and other benefits. 5) The Gaza strip is sanctioned so it is impossible to build an economy. Their Economy worked very well till the Hamas took over. Because of their Terrorism action against Israel, Israel to defend itself and that the way she chooses. On the other side, they have their Egyptian brothers who can assist them. Right on the other side of the fence. Why not telling them to apply to them for help. Why does Israel has to supply them with goods. Every day 1,500 trucks loaded with Israel products are entering the strip. Israel also supplies them with electricity, not talking about the UN which supply them also for 74 years. The only refugees in the world to get it. At the very least, let Palestine have the West-bank, remove your soldiers and checkpoints, and stop taking taxes. Then Palestine actually has a chance. Since the UN is the ultimate authority like they were in 1947, listen to them when they say stop making settlements. At the very least. It seems that you are new in that situation. If you were aware about peace talks in the last 30 years, you wouldn't dare say it. The PA's were offered to get back 97% of the West Bank and 3% more from Israeli lands. Not once, but twice. Yes, twice. Yitzhak Rabin and Shimon Peres were rewarded a Nobel Prize for peace for willing to hand over the lands to the PA's, and Yaser Arafat for is willing to get the lands. All he had to do is to sign the peace treaty but he got cold feet and retreated. The same story happened with Abu Mahzen few years after that. The same offer but he also got cold feet. That time the Nobel Prize committee was not on a hurry to give prizes just for a willing. Do you know why they finally rejected the two Israeli offers? Very simple why. Just for your poor knowledge. The Pa's agenda is not to make peace with Israel. Their agenda was and still is to get all the lands from the Jordan river to the sea, clean of Jews. All you have to do is to listen to what they say in private and compare it to what they say in public. Your above suggestions were already suggested to the PA's for a peace treaty but till now with no success. Now you can suggest all of it to the Pa's. BTW. Yaser Arafat never returned the Nobel Prize that he received. I CAN ONLY SUGGEST TO YOU TO READ THE HISTORY OF THAT REGION FOR THE LAST 200 YEARS STARTING WITH 1831. After that you'll know from where most of the PA's arrived to that region, when and why, how the Jews did and many unknown other facts. Hearing fake stories and fake facts from people who also had heard it from other people do not make it true. Do What I just suggested to you and get wiser.
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  3088. Of course Palestine was civilized in 1920. The Jews who arrived there 40 years ago made it like this. Still you have to read what Mark Twain wrote about it only 10 years before the Jews started to arrive there and then you'll will see how "civilized" it was at his visit. I'm attaching here few line of him (1868): "It seems to me that of all the countries with a depressing landscape, the Land of Israel holds the crown. The hills are bald, faded in color, and their shape is far from pleasing to the eye. The valleys are ugly deserts decorated at their edges with scanty vegetation whose faces seem to express grief and despair... Every line is rough, harsh and every note is sharp, without perspective - distance does not create magic here. This is a dreary, hopeless, heartbroken land." "We could not stop to rest even after riding for two or three hours from our camp, even though the stream flowed beside us. Therefore we continued on our way for another hour. Although we saw water, but in the whole expanse of wilderness around us there was not even an iota of shade, and we were badly burned in the burning sun. 'Like the shadow of a heavy rock In a weary land' - there is no more beautiful phrase in the whole Bible, and there is no doubt that of all the places we have wandered, there is not one capable of giving such a touching meaning to the phrase as this arid, bare, bald land". That's how your nice country looked like till the arrivle of the Jews. To day it's Paradise. If you only excepted the offer of two states, it was also a pradise for you. But since the Arabs know only to destroy and to kill, you do not have to blame the Israelis for it.
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  3153.  @risinggael1685  Making comments without checking all the facts is not clever. Here are the facts: How would your country react if for 17 years your neighbor had fired tens of thousands of rockets and missiles toward you, killing civilians, elderly, women children and boys, and demolishing many houses? All this time, Israel responded by firing at the sources of fire of the Hamas terrorists who were hiding among the local population and Israel avoided hitting them so as not to hit the innocents. After the slaughter on October 7, Israel decided that enough is enough and that this terrorist organization must be eliminated once and for all. The war against them began in northern Gaza and Israel earlier informed the residents to move south so they would not be harmed. Hundreds of thousands of them moved south and were not harmed, others who preferred to stay in their homes did so at their own risk and can only blame themselves. Until now, Hamas has fired about 15,000 missiles and rockets at Israel, causing heavy losses to Israel. And now to the charge of genocide. You can read the definition for this in the UN discussions. What is happening in Gaza certainly does not meet this definition. Until now, if we believe the Hamas terrorists who always exaggerate, about 27,000 people have been killed, and this also includes about 10,000 terrorists and hundreds more who were killed there as a result of Hamas rockets falling on their houses because they were failed to be launched because of technical failures. Many more of them were killed because they stayed at their homes and did not evacuate as Israel suggested them. So how many civilians were killed by your count? Maybe 16,000 out of a population of 2,300,000 citizens. And this is what you call genocide? You can compare these numbers to the approximately 24,000 civilians who were bombed and murdered in Dresden at the end of WW2 by Great Britain, and all this for just one night compared to the four months during which Israel operates in Gaza, this points to the caution with which Israel operates not to harm innocents, which costs it many victims. How did you come to the insight that their return to the south would lead to genocide? The Gaza Strip is not a concentration camp and Israelis are not Nazis. Israel could have done this a long time ago, but that is not their intention. The intention is to get rid of the Hamas terrorists while wanting not to harm innocents. They won't stay there forever. After the restoration of the Gaza Strip, they will return to their place. You can read on Wikipedia about the number of people who were actually murdered in the really genocides, which number many millions.
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  3203.  @ncage2621  You are wrong. The brutal actions of the American settlers against the poor Indians started at the same time the first Jews started to arrive back to Israel in the 80's of the 19th Century. It was not a short history which started in 1947 as you say. The difference is that the Jewish settlers bought every Inch of the lands with good money. No one was forced to sell lands to the Jews. The Arab landlords were very happy to sell them sands and swamps which were turned into flourishing fields, vineyards and groves by hard work, illness and many Jewish casualties. The new Jewish settlements caused masses of migrant workers to go there to work and make a living with the Jews. Till 1920 about 50% of the PA's in Israel were these newcomers. Now they claim to live there for ages. The PA's has no advantage over the Jews in Israel. The successes of the Jews and arriving of some new waves of them till 1936 made the local Arabs jealous. From 1921 till 1939 there were some brutal riots taken by the Arabs against the Jews, murdering many of them. In 1947 the UN decided to divide Israel between the PA's and the Jews. The PA's didn't accept it and the rest in the knowing history. Now I would like you to give me some examples of Jewish brutality, Apartheid, unlawful and illegal occupation. Few of any kind will do. Since you are so sensitive and open minded toward poor people, and "knowing" so many "facts" I would like to suggest you to read the history of that region in the last 200 years starting at 1831 when the Egyptians took it over. After reading that short history you'll see how you know nothing about it. Get wiser and do not argue about subjects you are not aware about.
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  3418.  @wesleysandel5299  US Aid is only 2% of the annually Israeli budget. A drop in the sea. Israel is not getting any money as other countries do. They can use it only in the US, for Missiles, Jets and other kind of weapon. If you want to know what the US is getting back from Israel, you just have to look at the annually report of the American Foreign department. I read the edition of 2019 and I saw how much American money was saved by Israel. You will be surprised but it reaches many of Billions US$. The F-16 manufacturer said that since the 80th Israel sent to US 180 improvements of that Jet saving them years of developments and many Billions of US$. When Israel is buying from the US a kind of weapon or an American System, other countries follow knowing that they do not need to look for this kind of weapon elsewhere. Also any Billion of US$. Israel got the F-35 and was the first one to get it. Did you ask yourself why? Because Israel is the one which can test it under real conditions and offer free improvement and saving hem many Billions of US$. What about the Intelligence that Israel is giving the Americans for free saving lives and much money to the US. These are just a few examples out of many of how America benefits from Israel. Can you tell me one country which America is benefiting more? Is America paying Israel too much value? Get yourself the above Annually report and you'll be ashamed saying it. BTW. Israel has almost 200 Billion US$ and it's grow every year. Israel do not need American money. America is the one who needs Israel and willing to pay for it. You can guess now where I live but you didn't.
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  3423.  @chrisconnor7934  Of course there were Palestinian Passports. They were issued by the British Authorities from 1919 till 1948 for Arabs and for the Jews as well. It was written in three languages, English, Arabic and Hebrew. It goes also for Post stamps and coins. I still have some of it. all were issued by the British in favor of the local citizens. Documents yes as the Jews ones. A flag - no. Now for stilling the lands. Nobody did it. The Jews who lived there from the Roman times owned it legally. The newcomer Jews since the 19th Century bought every Inch of it from the Arab owners, most of them Christians who lived in Egypt and in Lebanon. They were very happy to get good money from the stupid Jews who bought their swamps and sands. My home town was established that way in 1878. After Israel was established and was attacked by seven Arab armies and won, many Arabs had to leave since their leaders ordered them to leave for a short while not to risk themselves till the Arabs will kill all the Jews. There were also who were forced to leave for a reason. After 1967 Israel took over the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. It happened after the King of Jordan joined the war against Israel with Egypt and Syria. He lost and the lands were taken over by Israel. His lands, not the Palestinians who keep owning theme till today. BTW. It probably will be also new to you. Most of the so-called Palestinians arrived in that region at the end of the 19th Century till the beginning of the 20th Century alongside the Jews who arrived also from Yemen and from Europe. The today Palestinians have no advantage over the Jews but they claim to live there for ages. If you really want to know much more about the conflict between the Arabs and Israel, let me recommend you to read the history of that region for the last 200 years starting 1831.
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  3774.  @NickyWalkerlivingbush1595 Regarding the 2 million Jews who left Israel: You do not have to look for evidence for lies. Israel is not an occupier. The west Bank lands were taken by Israel after being attacked by Egypt, Syria and by Jordan in 1967. The Sinai Desert and the Gaza Strip were taken from Egypt, the Golan heights from Syria and the West Bank from Jordan. It's time to clear this point. The West Bank wasn't taken from the so-called Palestinians. It was taken from Jordan who started war with Israel in 1967 and ruled there for 19 years before it. During these years no one demanded a free state for the Palestinians. It happened only when Israel defeated Jordan and started to rule there. You can tell it as well to the USA, to Russia and to other countries. For Israel in particularly this is another story. Israel took the lands of the above countries which attacked them and wanted their lands and also to throw them into the sea. As for the American aid. The last year was an exceptional for the Israeli economy in terms of the huge expenses for its defense expenses against the terrorist organizations. Until a few months ago it was one of the best economies in the world. Israel did not receive a single cent in cash from the US till now. The US made available a credit of 3.8 billion dollars with a restriction to spend this money only in the USA. In this way Israel contributed to the American economy. Israel provides services to the USA which saves them and the American tax payers billions of dollars every year. One of the American generals said that Israel gives the USA the best return for its investment. If you want to know more about this, I suggest you to read the US Department of State annually report. All is written there. You'll be surprised in how many ways the US benefits from Israel.
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  3977.  @truebeliever786  What reason do they have to do so? As for your saying that Isreal cannot rely on the victory that happened more than fifty years ago and that the Palestinians and Lebanon have become stronger, you are wrong. The ones who got stronger were the Palestinian terrorist organizations. Lebanon did not get stronger at all, on the contrary, it got weaker. The one who has been controlling it for many years is Hezbollah, supported by Iran which finances and arms them. These terrorists sit in the Lebanese parliament and brought it to an economic disaster, so there is no talk of Lebanon's strengthening. The Lebanese army is nothing but a puppet unable to do anything against Hezbollah to return Lebanon back to its citizens, and certainly not against the State of Israel. Your sayings about the current war are also wrong. This is not a war between countries. This is an Israeli operation whose goal is to eliminate Hamas, which is also supported by Iran, and also to free the kidnapped Israeli citizens. Till today, Israel has killed more than 9,000 terrorists but there is still a lot of work to do because they are hiding in tunnels they dug for more than 600 km with Qatari funding instead of directing the funds to the welfare of the residents in Gaza. This is why the tunnels are taking so long to clear and will take a long time. In light of the above, you can understood that this is not a war like they were in the past. To say that Israel has weakened is also a mistake. It is like saying that the United States' war against the terrorist organization Al Qaeda has weakened the United States. Israel has one of the best Economics in the world, Israel is one of the best Technology state in the world, and one of the best Armies in the world. that's why Iran is afraid of Israel and send her dogs, Hezbollah, Hamas and the Hut's, to do her filthy job for her.
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  4028. The origin of Arab genetics, Arab culture, the Arabic language and the religion of Islam is in the Arabian Peninsula, therefore the Arabs calling themself Palestinians are not indigenous to Palestine by definition. Arabs indigenous to the Arabian Peninsula. Latest ottoman census approximates less than 350,000 inhabitants in Palestine include Jewish and Christians, Druze and others. Most of the so-called Palestinians arrived in this region in the second part of the 19th Century and the beginning of the 20th Century alongside the Jews. Tuafiq Bey al-Khorani, the Syrian governor of the Horan, Southern Syria, said in 1934 that "over 30,000 Syrians invaded Palestine in a few months. Winston Churchill said on 5/22/1939 that Arab immigration during the Mandate period was so great that "their number increased beyond any rate by which even the Jewry of the whole world could increase the number of Jews". Franklin Delano Roosevelt, President of the USA, said on 17. 5. 1939 that "the immigration of the Arabs to Palestine since 1921 has largely exceeded the immigration of the Jews in the entire recent period". In any case this influx of Arabs is evident in the surnames of the Arab families that live today in the land. In Arab culture the surname indicates your membership of a particular clan and its origin: El-masri originates from Egypt (masr). El Fayumi from Egypt Masarwa also from Egypt El-takhriti from takhrit in Iraq. Halabi from Halab in Syria. El-lubnani from Lebanon. El-hijazi from the hijaz in Saudi Arabia. El Kurdi from Kurdistan. El Hurani from Huran in Syria. Agbaria from Saudi Arabia – Yemen El Maghrabi, Maghrabi from West North Africa Ottoman from Turkey. El Jozair from Algeria. El Arg' from Morocco. Abid from Sudan. El Bushnaq from Bosnia. El Shishani from Chechnya El Indi from India And there are more.
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  4165. I want to clarify here the matter of the occupation of the West Bank and also what Brought Israel to rule there.. The state of Jordan joined Egypt and Syria in the 1967 war and attacked Israel, Israel defended itself and succeeded in repelling the the Jordanians and the Iraqi forces who joined them. Israel liberated East Jerusalem including the Holy Temple Mount to the Jews. Israel decided to hold the West Bank as a bargaining chip with Jordan so that it can be returned to them in exchange for a peace agreement. After the war, the Arab countries gathered in Khartoum, Sudan, and decided on three No's. No negotiations with Israel, no recognition of Israel and no peace with Israel. In the meantime, the West Bank is left without a person in charge to take care of its current affairs and means of subsistence, health, economy, education, sewage and many other day-to-day topics that are in need for immediate attention. The local residents were actually satisfied with the new government that allowed them to work in Israel and earn a living with dignity, which they lacked under the rule of Jordan. Israel established a mechanism to handle all these issues. After there was no progress on the issue of peace with Jordan, pressures from the right began to begin to settle throughout the West Bank in the historical places where the Jews used lived. The settlements kept growing until it stopped 15 years ago. In the Oslo agreement in the 1990s, the West Bank was partially transferred to the exclusive rule of the Palestinians. The western part of the West Bank remains in Israel's hands to serve as a security buffer between the Arabs and the Jews in Israel. After 20 years of rule there, a resistance movement arose from Palestinian youths who did not get to know the Jordanian government and demand from Israel an independent state (what their ancestors didn't dare to ask from Jordan) while exercising it Terrorist acts claimed victims on both sides. This is the situation until now. Although Jordan signed a peace agreement with Israel, but there is no change in the situation in the West Bank. Over the years, the Palestinians have been offered peace proposals, including two proposals for repatriation all the areas but they rejected all of them and the last two as well. Why the peace proposals of Israel were rejected? Because the Palestinians want their own state from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, and with no Jews there.
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  4379. Absuluty there were always people in this land. From the beginning of history, but you mean the 19th Century. Well, there were but not so many. Most of them were Muslims, fewer Christian and a Jewish minority who lived there for almost 4,000 Years beginning with Abraham. I n the 19th Century most of the people there lived in small towns and in many small villages. What you read the Europeans and Americans travlers at this time , you get the impression of a neglected and poor land. For instance, the impression of Mark Twain while his tour in 1868: "It seems to me that of all the countries with a depressing landscape, the Land of Israel holds the crown. The hills are bald, faded in color, and their shape is far from pleasing to the eye. The valleys are ugly deserts decorated at their edges with scanty vegetation whose faces seem to express grief and despair... Every line is rough, harsh and every note is sharp, without perspective - distance does not create magic here. This is a dreary, hopeless, heartbroken land." "We could not stop to rest even after riding for two or three hours from our camp, even though the stream flowed beside us. Therefore we continued on our way for another hour. Although we saw water, but in the whole expanse of wilderness around us there was not even an iota of shade, and we were badly burned in the burning sun. 'Like the shadow of a heavy rock In a weary land' - there is no more beautiful phrase in the whole Bible, and there is no doubt that of all the places we have wandered, there is not one capable of giving such a touching meaning to the phrase as this arid, bare, bald land." Only ten years later the first Jews start to buy lands from the Arabs owners who lived abroad and started to build new villages. At the end of the 19th Centuries waves of Jews started to arrive there fro Europe and from Yemen and followed the formers. At this time also waves of Muslims start to arrive as migrant workers and settled there as well. Most of these migrants are called now Palestinians who claim to live there for agaes telling everyone that the Jews have no right to live there also.
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  4702.  @Krishnahgg I want to clarify here the matter of the occupation of the West Bank and also what Brought Israel to rule there. The state of Jordan joined Egypt and Syria in the 1967 war and attacked Israel, Israel defended itself and succeeded in repelling the the Jordanians and the Iraqi forces who joined them. Israel liberated East Jerusalem including the Holy Temple Mount of the Jews. Israel decided to hold the West Bank as a bargaining chip with Jordan so that it can be returned to them in exchange for a peace agreement. After the war, the Arab countries gathered in Khartoum, Sudan, and decided on three No's. No negotiations with Israel, no recognition of Israel and no peace with Israel. In the meantime, the West Bank was left without a person in charge to take care of its current affairs and means of subsistence, health, economy, education, sewage and many other day-to-day topics that were in need for immediate attention. The local residents were actually satisfied with the new government that allowed them to work in Israel and earn a good living with dignity, which they lacked under the rule of Jordan. Israel established a mechanism to handle all these issues. After there was no progress on the issue of peace with Jordan, pressures from the right began to begin to settle throughout the West Bank in the historical places where the Jews used to live. The settlements kept growing until it stopped 15 years ago. In the Oslo agreement in the 90's, the West Bank was partially transferred to the exclusive rule of the Palestinians. The western part of the West Bank remains in Israel's hands to serve as a security buffer between the Arabs and the Jews in Israel. After 20 years of rule there, a resistance movement arose from Palestinian youths who did not get to know the Jordanian government and demand from Israel an independent state (what their ancestors didn't dare to ask from Jordan) while exercising it Terrorist acts claimed victims on both sides. This is the situation until now. Although Jordan signed a peace agreement with Israel, but there is no change in the situation in the West Bank. Over the years, the Palestinians have been offered peace proposals, including two proposals for repatriation all the areas but they rejected all of them and the last two as well. Why these peace proposals of Israel were rejected? Because the Palestinians want their own state from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, and with no Jews there.
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  4753.  @chikochikoku5900 I'll try to do it by small portions. please let me know if you got it. My answer to No. 1- if Jews has the right on Palestine after Jews were wiped away by the romans. Well, Yes, they do. Generally, this is the way of history. Lands were taken by wars all over history. After the Romans there were Byzants, Arabs, Selejuks, Mamelukes, Crusaders, Mongols, Ottomans, British and now Israel. All the above-mentioned conquerors had no connection to this land and no one remained there since. Only the Jews did during all the ages, till today. This land was given to Israel by God. Even the Quran says it and you cannot deny it unless you do not believe in Muhammed and the Quran. The Persian ruled in Judea after defeating Babylon and taking their lands include Israel. They were kind to the Jews by letting them return to Judea and re-built the Temple and Jerusalem. There were three revolts against the Romans. The Main one was at 66 A.D. and Jerusalem and the Temple were ruined. At 161 year revolt, Bar Kokhba put the final nail in the Coffin of Jewish hopes for freedom. Caesar Hadrian got tired of the Jews and decided to erase the name of Judea from the Google Map and called it Palestina. This name derived from the Plishtim who arrived from Crete in the ancient times till king David kicked them out in about 1000 B.C. After that the Jews and the Jewish center with their leaders moved to the upper Galilee area and to Tiberias since Hadrian didn't allow them to return to Jerusalem. You can find today many ruins of ancient big and gorgeous Synagogues in Judea, Galillee, The Golan Heights and even in Gaza. They were in use till the 7 Century when the Arab invaders arrived, and all of it were ruined by them. Many Arab cities and villages names are still called today with their original Jewish names.
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  4826.  @user-hm9tz1ps9k  Why do you think I don't know about the Jews at that time? They lived there all the time till now days. In the 19th Century most of them lived in the four holy cities and some hundreds lived then in several other mixed villages in the Upper Galilee. But their number was not as high as the Muslims who lived there. What is your source that many Jews opposed the establishment of the state? For your poor knowledge, Orthodox Jews do not serve in the army for the reason they prefer to study all day only holy teachings since they belief that this study serve the state of Israel better than the military service. Who do you think founded the first colonies even before Zionism if not the ultra-Orthodox? Some were from Jerusalem and some were from Eastern Europe who arrived there after riots against them. "They lived in peace with their Muslim and Christian brothers". Are you insane? Where did you get this false information? Already in the 80's of the 19th century there were already quarrels between them and in 1921, 1929, 1936, 1939, 1948 the conflicts between them already claimed many victims among the Jews. The famous Historian Benny Morris wrote that "at best, Ilan Pepe is one of the most careless historians in the world, at worst, he is one of the least honest." In Morris' opinion, Pepe "sometimes omits salient evidence and ignores it", "sometimes claims that a source tells us the complete opposite of what he really says" and even "distorts evidence" . In relation to the book "History of Modern Palestine" Morris wrote that "most of the things Pepe tries to sell to his readers are complete fiction", and accused him of "deliberate distortion of history" and of showing "deep ignorance of the facts". Not talking that Pepe is a BDS activist. (Benny Morris, if you don't hear his name, specializes in historical writing on the Israeli-Arab conflict in general and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in particular. Morris's work has won him praise on both sides of the spectrum of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict). Why can't settlers take land that is not theirs? How were most of the US'S states founded? Did the Indians give them their lands willingly? Did Mexico do that too? The Jews, who had at least a historical right to this land, bought all the lands from the Arab landowners and settled on it. This caused the Arab opposition to it and as a result many hostilities were caused between them. Israel has never implemented a plan to deport the Arabs. During Israel's war of independence, Arab leaders convinced their brothers to leave their homes for a while until the five Arab armies destroyed the Jews and then they could return to their homes and receive the Jewish property. Unfortunately, it didn't work for them and they lost. There were also isolated cases of the expulsion of the Arabs, but most of them did not see even a single Israeli soldier. In the Six Day War, Israel defeated Egypt, Syria and Jordan, after they started a war against it. As a result, the defeated Jordanians left the West Bank, which they had controlled for 19 years, and Israel received the lands that the Jordanians owned there. Hence the Jewish settlement was and still is legal. I have not heard of an international law that says that a country that attacked another country and lost, may get back the lands it lost and the side that won is the conqueror. The occupiers were their Jordanian brothers who did not give the residents of the West Bank their own state. But since then, they have been demanding it from Israel. I want to make it clear to you that Israel has twice offered the Palestinians a peace treaty in which Israel will return to them all the territories that were taken from them in the Six Day War. in 2000 and in 2008 but they rejected it. twice do you know why? It seems that you know their slogan that says: "From the river to the sea Palestine will be free". What they don't add is the end of it that says: " clean of Jews". Anti-Semitism has increased since the seventh of October because of the Arab students at universities in the US and Europe. They told their listeners about the Israeli "occupation" and the "injustice" towards them and they swallowed it as if it were the truth and did not bother to check the facts. The terrorists of Hamas and the rest were also presented as the righteous among the nations. I am interested to know if you have your own suggestion to solve this problem.
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  4928. ​ @utilitymonster8267  Arafat was an untreatable person. He always said what the Audience wanted to hear and he made an impression of a very modest peace seeker. To the PA's he said the opposite. In public speeches, Arafat compared the Oslo Accords to the Hudaybiye Agreement. I hope you know what it means. several times, in Johannesburg in 1994, in Cairo in 1995, as well as in a speech in Stockholm in 1996, he told the ambassadors of Arab countries, "We are planning to oust the State of Israel and establish a pure Palestinian state. We will make life miserable for the Jews in the warfare of in psychological and overpopulation. Jews will not want to live among us Arabs." This was Arafat, the two faced person. The one who rubbed the the public coffers of the Palestinians and now his wife becomes every year 22 Million $ of it every year. There were also two Israeli offers to give back all the land to the PA's including dividing Jerusalem. This was offered by the Prime Ministers Ehud Barak and Prime Minister Ehud Olmert. Both suggestions were rejected by Abu Mazen. Why, because it didn't fit the Pa's agenda to get back all the lands of Israel and push the Jews into the sea. As for the 60%. Yes, almost all this land was a desert. Now Israel is a flourishing Paradise and one of the richest country in the world according to its size. I can understand you frustration. You'll have to get used to it. Israel is here to stay and if the PA's will insist of getting back the lands of Israel, there will not be a PA state. Pity.
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  4933.  @liammulcahy9506  Since this a long one I didn't succeed to do it in one time. Here is the first part of it: 1. This will be a long one, please have patient. 2. You suggested me to do a research before writing and I did. That's why it took me so long. 3. Please bear with me for my basic and poor English. The Jews had no option but to fight back * although they were much less armed than their enemy * Arabs left their houses * most of them willingly and the Minority were expelled by the IDF * . The Arabs had a rag taggled Army of 15,000 who did not even have proper guns and ran out of ammunition. _______________________________________________¬¬¬¬¬____________________ The period of time that we are talking about has to be divided into two: The first one from the UN resolution to divide Palestine into two states taken on 29.11.1947 till 14.5.1948, the day Israel declared its independence. The second part is from that day till the victory of Israel. The date of 29.11.1947 was actually the day of the beginning of the Arabs war against Israel. It started the day after by killing Jews who were on their way home. This kind of war was called the war on the roads. The Arabs cut off the ways to isolated villages and Kibbutzim. They also blocked the road to Jerusalem putting it under siege. For these tasks there were enough local Arabs with old guns. For instance, the way to Jerusalem passed through mountains and it was very easy for the Arabs to control the way from above, especially at the place called Bab-El-Wad, the gate of the valley, where the road becomes very narrow. Many vehicles which tried to pass were attacked by those lousy Arabs and their lousy guns, but it was enough to stop most of the vehicles and to kill many of those who tried to arrive in Jerusalem with precious products, and drinking water. Many convoys like these which were on the way to bring supplies to the isolated villages were attacked and caused lives of many Jewish boys and girls. At that time only few thousand Israelis secured the roads and tried to break the sieges. Most of them were members of the resistance groups, but they were not soldiers and certainly not well armed and not well trained. They hardly had one rifle for two persons and almost no ammunition. The British didn't allow them doing it and arrested many of them who attempt to train themselves. In mixed cities of Arabs and Jews like Jerusalem, Tel Aviv-Jaffa, Haifa and more, Jews had to take shelter of daily shootings at them by the Arabs. This situation ended a half of a year later when one ship managed to break the British blockade and managed to bring rifles, some machine guns and ammunition. Right after that the Jews stopped react as sitting Ducks and went for a large offensive. Arab villages and towns were attacked by the Jews and Jewish villages and towns were attacked by the Arabs, but the actions of both sides were limited because of the British forces which still were stationed there. Many volunteers also came to aid the Arabs from Lebanon and Syria but fortunately the Jews managed to hold on and even to fend them back to where they arrived. That's for the "Jews had no option but to fight back" and for "The Jews were well armed and well-trained army of 40,000 soldiers", Now to the second part from 15.5.1948: The PA's and the Arabs countries called the Jews not to declare independence and threatened them to invade the new state, and to shove all the Jews into the sea. It was a real threat since Israel at that time had not enough soldiers to face them. They had no Tanks, no Airplanes, no war ships, no Canons, not enough machine guns and ammunition. Right after the independence declaration, on 14.5.1948, one the day after, six Arab armies invaded Israel from three sides. Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and forces from Iraq and from Saudi Arabia. Egypt for instance was well equipped with tanks, canons, armored vehicles, Airlanes, war ships and they had lot of ammunition. That Army alone counted 20,000 soldiers. In the whole the Arab armies counted 65,000 soldiers and also 10,000 locals. On their way they attacked villages and Kibbutzim which had to fight for themselves, men alongside women without reinforcements because of the lack of soldiers who had to fight in three fronts to stop the invaders. Many local Arabs waited in a distance to loot the Jews properties and killed who stayed alive. After Conscription to the army started and enlisting new soldiers, the Israeli army counted 40,000 trained and untrained soldiers. Only two months later Israel got some help and even got four Avia fighters. At the first mission Israel lost 25% of its fighters. While the war went on, Israel managed to fend them off and the war ended in March 1949 with many casualties. At that time the population of Israel counted about 600,000 citizens, many of them poor and miserable people who managed to survive the Holocaust. Israel had about 6,000 soldiers and citizens who were killed by the Arabs. It's like the USA suffered 3,000,000 casualties. That's for:" The Jews had no option but to fight back And that's for the ethnic cleansing of Palestine in 1948: During the war many Arabs left their homes and became refugees. I can pity them for listening to their leaders who encourage them to leave saying that they will be back home soon after the Jews will be shoved into the sea. It wasn't said by locale Leaders, it was said by the Arab Higher Committee. Many of them were expelled by the Israeli soldiers but still they were the minority. The Dir Yassin Massacre was the catalysator for the Majority and by their leaders. Still Hundreds of thousands remain in their homes. In Haifa most of the Arab population listen to the Arab higher committee and left without seeing even one Israeli soldiers. It took place from 12.1947 till Israel decelerate independence. The Jewish leaders and the British commander of Haifa tried to convince them not to stay but only 3,000 out of 70,000 did it. Tens of thousands of their descendants live in Haifa now. In Jaffa, after a long and bitter fights between the Jews of Tel Aviv and the Arabs of Jaffa, when the Jews started to approach Jaffa, many of them took ships and fled to the Gaza Strip and to Lebanon. Israel told them not to leave but they didn't listen to them. When Israeli forces arrived to the Port of Jaffa, there were still 4,000 Arabs who were waiting for ships. The Israeli Commander suggested them to return home, promising them that nothing will happen to them and they did. Those were the ancestors of the now days Arabs in Jaffa. At 1948 there were 1,200,000 Arab citizens. 700,000 became refugees, the 500,000 who remained became citizens of Israel with equal rights. ( BTW. Do you know why the PA's refugees became a status of refugees? Do you know how refugees get their status? Well, according to the international definition, a refugee entitles this title if he was a citizen of the country for ages and for centuries. For the Palestinians refugees, and only for them, they created another definition. They have to be citizens only for two years. Two years, not ages. Most of the Palestinians arrived there from the end of the 19's Century till the 40's of the 20th Century. No wonder there were so many refugees by the time Israel became a state and the numbers are growing every year. There is no limitation of time and they are going to benefit it for ages. Never in history there has been no such thing. Is it normal?) This was for "Arabs left their houses * most of them willingly and the Minority were expelled by the IDF".
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  4934.  @liammulcahy9506 This is part two: Now what about the Jewish refugees of the Arab countries? When the UN decided to divide the land between Jews and Arabs, all the Jews in all Arab states started to suffer of riots because of it. There were about 900,000 Jews in those countries and many of them were murdered. What about their rights? They didn't take part of the war in Israel but was blamed just because they were Jews. They were forced to leave the Arab countries in the Levant and of the Northern Africa countries. They were allowed to take only few personal belongings and leave behind their houses, shops, their businesses and their money. When they arrived in Israel, they weren't put into Refugee Camps as the Arab countries did to their PA's brothers who live there till today, and after a while they got housings and jobs. As for the Massacres: Quoting Anti Zionists Journalists like Beni Morris, Ilan Pape and the extreme left-wing newspaper are not the most reliable sources since they had an interest to blacken the face of Israel. Still, yes, there were cases of local Massacres. You mentioned three of them. I know about Dir Yassin as everyone does, I know also about the Safsaf Village. (The name of that village preserves the Jewish ancient name of a Jewish village which existed there more than 2,000 years ago as other hundred ancient Jewish villages in the Galilee and Judea). Two years ago, a Lebanese citizen wrote to me about it saying that his Grandparents lived there and about the Massacre. I found out that it was true as you quoted it here taken from Wikipedia. As for Al Dawiyima it was new to me. It made me read about it also in Wikipedia and I saw that there were some inquiring comities who looked to it. An Israeli one, one of the UN, and also by the Arab legion, all of them right after it and not after 60 years from which you took the quotations. All three of them came to the conclusions that probably a Massacre took place there but not so many casualties as the Authors said after 60 years. The Dir Yassin was the well known Massacre of all. There are few versions for what really happened there and everyone can read about it and decide what went on there. For Safsaf, I found nothing except what is written in Wikipedia and why they did it. I want to be clear, there is no accuse for it but still…. You counted the poor Arabs who were Massacred and women who were raped by Israelis. What about Jews who also went through it by the Arabs there at that time and by larger numbers? Why didn't you do it as well? Because you wanted to show how cruel and brutal Jews were/are or you just didn't know about it? Well, let's begin. This is a partial list: During the war on the roads, many convoys did their way to the isolated villages and Kibbutzim. Some manage to make it and some had to fight their way through. There were many who surrender and they were massacred to the last person. I managed to find that there were about 160. One famous Convoy tried to reach a village near Hebron called Kfar Etzion. At dawn they were revealed by the Arabs not far away of their destiny. Thousands of local Arabs surrounded them and killed them. They abuse the corpses so brutally that it was impossible to know who is who. Some of them were found with their Phonic in their mouth. They were 35. Another famous Convoy went out Jerusalem on April 1948 toward the Hospital in Mount Scopus which were under siege. There was an agreement that every two weeks the staff there will be replaces by other ones and it worked properly for some months. There were 78 Doctors and sisters. On the way they had to cross an Arab village and were attacked by the locals although they were announced a day before that they are going to relief off duty the staff of that Hospital. All of them were Massacred. I mention the name Kfar Etzion. Only one day before declaring Israel independence, a mob of hundreds of local Arabs attacked that isolated village and were aided by the Jordanian Legion. Many of the defenders were killed, man and also women. About 50 of them found shelter in a Cellar in the village, men and some women. They were Massacred there and some women were raped before killing them. I have friends from that village who remained with no fathers and one friend with no parents. The children were evacuated to Jerusalem two weeks before it. One researcher suggested that the Massacre in Al Dawiyima was a revenge for it since they also took part in that Massacre of the Jews in Kfar Etzion. They said they identified belongings and furniture which belonged to the citizens of that village. One researcher suggested that it was a revenge for the Massacre of 67 Jews, women who were raped and babies whose heads were smashed into the walls in Hebron in 1929. Arab neighbors who lived peacefully with the Jews there took also part in it. You can find it under the title The Hebron Massacre of 1929. "Do some proper research before writing such dribble. Educating oneself is mandatory to making an intelligent comment!!" It goes for you also. If you really want to know where, when and why the so-called Palestinians arrived in this region, I suggest you to read a reliable history book of this land for the last 200 years starting at 1831. I also suggest you to read the book of Mark Twain which was written while his visit to the ME in 1867, especially the part of "Palestine". Well, this will do for now. I got tired. Be well.
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