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Comments by "p11" (@porky1118) on "The REAL Red-Pill on Free Will!" video.
This wouldn't explain free will.
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Sounds like discrimination. Why do you set the border between plants and animals? What about mushrooms? They are evolutionary closer to animals than plants.
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Why do you believe in a creator god if it's not the Christian god?
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@henlofren7321 I don't disagree. When I prepared a presentation about quantum computers, I also thought Bohemian mechanics to be the most obvious. But I didn't get too much into it, so mostly because I wanted to believe in determinism. I also like the many worlds theory, mostly because it would allow scifi stuff, even if it's only possible to send a single bit of information between these worlds (I'm trying to write a story about that). But I think the most believable theory is the one that uses geometric algebra (I don't remember the name), because GA is good at simplifying some complex physics stuff into a simple set of rules.
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What's the alternative? Randomness? You just do something random, no matter what the world around you is like? Determinism would at least be closer to free will than randomness.
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It's not a good philosophy. It's not a philosophical question, but a question of truth. Either the world is deterministic, or it isn't. I never heard about "phenomenology". It sounds like stuff, that cannot be explained using the deterministic rules we know. But non-determinism wouldn't help to explain this, either.
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1:20 Does it matter if there is something else than matter? Even if there is something else than matter, maybe a soul, it would work under some specific rules. It would react to the outside world and influence it. I can't remember if I thought, I'm smart or edgy. It just seems like the only realistic view. Other than determinism, there could only be randomness, which is definitely not free will. 2:05 The idea, that there is no free will is part of that deterministic process. If you believe it and act as if there is no free will, it will influence your life. I think, I never thought, the lack of a free will is an excuse for anything.
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@mskiptr It's difficult to answer such a long text properly, and I don't want to spend half an hour on this. Yeah, theoretically there could be a third option. What is this option? At least I can't think of one, that's not determinism nor randomness. Even if you'd say, quantum mechanics will change the chances to get some specific outcome, maybe one where humanity doesn't get extinct, maybe because of a god, maybe because what people think will more likely become true. It could still be described as some kind of determinism, even if it's on a metaphysical layer.
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I don't believe in free will, I am an atheist, but I wouldn't consider myself foolish nor lazy.
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@biswadeepdey106 I don't agree anymore to what I wrote back then. Maybe I just wasn't clear enough. I didn't think completely different. I only don't think, not having free will is an excuse to be foolish or lazy. Not having free will means that how you act is determined by your circumstances. So if you misinterpret not having free will to mean that whatever you do, it will turn out the same, then you will likely be foolish and lazy.
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