Comments by "p11" (@porky1118) on "Clojure: Turtles All The Way Down" video.

  1. Oh, another a Rust user coming from Lisp.
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  2. If you like Rust and Lisp, you might also be interested in Scopes.
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  3. ​ @NoBoilerplate  After stopping using Lisp, I switched between Rust and Scopes for some time. I've been the only user for some time besides the developer. I ended up with only using Rust for now though, mostly because it's cleaner (like orphan rules; in Scopes I can just import a module which overwrites some of my methods without letting me know. I don't feel safe anymore). Scopes is still the most powerful language, I think. It has all the features of major programming languages, most interesting for you, it's S-Expression based, has Lisp macros, and a Rust borrow checker (version 2, only one level of borrowed data, no structs or tuples containing borrowed data). It's even more low level than C (by default values are not even on the stack but in the registers and immutable). And more high level than Lisps. Even a new kind of macro, which has access to type information and is able to do partial evaluation. It's the only language, where I was able to write a compile time dimension and type generic automatically typed geometric algebra library with versor tracking. And probably the only language where this is even possible theoretically, besides C++ maybe. It's difficult to keep it short when talking/writing about Scopes ;)
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  4.  @NoBoilerplate  You might also join the discord, if you haven't already. The developer and the few users are very helpful.
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  5.  @NoBoilerplate  To be honest I kind of hate Rust macros. They aren't like (Common) Lisp macros at all. They are more like Scheme macros, which I don't understand. Just working with the S-Expressions directly is much more comfortable and powerful than alternatives.
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  6.  @NoBoilerplate  I didn't really like it, mostly because it relies on Rust tokenizaiton. (with-x-y ...) is the same as (with - x - y ...)
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