Comments by "Mitch Richards" (@mitchrichards1532) on "The Debate over German POWs in Soviet Hands WW2" video.

At @ , the numbers are not bogus, not at all. They are the baseline of reality in this topic. Saying they are bogus is akin to throwing them away, which revisionists will do happily and write a whole new false narrative and use your video as a reference. The fact is, the Wehrmacht does know how many men went MIA on the Eastern Front (3.2 million Vermisste) and how many were ever repatriated after the war (about 1.92 million). We don't have actual stats down to the eaches, but what we have is in the right proportions in a holistic sense of German casualties in WWII. We know what divisions were deployed, when and where, how many men they had and how many they lost according to their unit histories. On the Eastern front that is consistent with what the Volksbund has been finding as it searches for and locates thousands each year in the East. I suggest you look up the Volksbund channel here on YouTube. The number of "live" POWs (2.3 million per NKVD/KGB) has to be qualified, only POWs who reached NKVD in-process were counted. The number of German POWs as reported by Red Army units that took them in is a better match to Wehrmacht estimates. Many were murdered shortly after capture or before they made it to be in-processed as official POWs.
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Nazi apologist propaganda. Review complete.
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"We make up quotes" -any revisionist
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@jcvr732 Nope, revisionism has nothing to do with the truth. All "revisionism" boils down to is a mask for anti-Semitism and conspiracy BS. Thats all it will ever be, no matter how many BS videos get produced, cryptic slogans, etc. It's just fake empowerment for the disenfranchised. Get a clue, get a life...
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@jcvr732 Revisionism is not another point of view, it is amateurs writing outside of their ability and not held to any quality or accuracy standards. Would you take you car to a revisionist mechanic and then put your family in it? Go to a witch doctor for your health? And I'm a Protestant, conservative Republican (not a Trump supporter). Any revisionist who runs into someone who disagrees, usually throws the "you're a Jew" card out there.
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At 1:10 the claim is incorrect. 3.15 million Germans were "Vermisste", which does NOT TRANSLATE to assumed POW. It means they were missing without confirmation of current status. To make this easier... 3.15 million missing, 1.92 were ever repatriated, leaving around 1.2 million unaccounted for. Some died in combat, or later of wounds while in captivity before reaching NKVD POW in-processing, some were shot just after capture, some were processed as POW didn't last in the Gulag and we have official confirmation. The fact remains, at least 3.15 million men went in, 1.92 million came out.
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Bigot...
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@reichstreu3362 In regard to "Eisenhower's Death Camps". If you support that theory, how do you account for Wehrmacht MIA distribution? To mean, the Wehrmacht unit and personnel records track last known whereabouts of missing personnel, of which we know how many went missing, on what front and when. If 1.1 million remain MIA on the Eastern Front and 41,000 in the West, what front is the "missing million" located? Check out this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXTGfG3mlXA at the 4:45 to 5:20 mark. And also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WpAMCD1jHo at 2:10 Each Wehrmacht Soldier, living or dead, has a unit personnel file with their status, deceased (when, where, where buried), alive (current address) Missing (last known whereabouts, any efforts to locate, family requests, etc.). Where does this information factor in your belief or faith in "Eisenhower's Death Camps" since it clearly demonstrates that there was no mass death there. You know?...no bodies ever found, not even pics of bodies or even starving men?
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A statistical analysis of Austrians revealed under 5%. Several divisions destroyed at Stalingrad were mostly raised in Austria under the old Wehrkreis system. Austria did an analysis of survivors after the war and it revealed the under 5% survival rate. Hiwis aren't part of the total number of prisoners either. Its primarliy Wehrmacht with a few Romanians (under 3k).
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TGBSET? (The Greatest BS Ever Told).
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@wolfsoldner9029 Nope
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Overmans used statistical analysis as a basis from Wehrmacht files in the Bundesarchiv. Trend analysis reveals statistical information that can be faithfully tracked to create an educated estimate. But perhaps you don't understand the methodology, never read the book and choose to paraphrase a general statement? lol, impressive.
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Drunk history from an amateur who is a conspiracy minded Nazi fanbois...
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Some were sent to remote areas of the SU to work and help settle, that's not a decision made by German Soldiers. The numbers are small, few thousand.
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@jcvr732 I believe in the process of analysis, not a set of facts. Of that, you will not change my mind because critical thought is how BS gets identified. Revisionists are BS artists. "Revisionism" is what professional Historians conduct. Historical negationism is "revisionists" practice...big difference.
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@scottstambaugh8473 No problem at all, pleasure to talk to you. All of this is out there if you search the right terms. Check out what the Germans did with Polish and Italian POWs too if you get a chance. Merry Christmas to you too.
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At 5:12 , the numbers are not bogus, not at all. They are the baseline of reality in this topic. Saying they are bogus is akin to throwing them away, which revisionists will do happily and write a whole new false narrative and use your video as a reference. The fact is, the Wehrmacht does know how many men went MIA on the Eastern Front (3.2 million Vermisste) and how many were ever repatriated after the war (about 1.92 million). We don't have actual stats down to the eaches, but what we have is in the right proportions in a holistic sense of German casualties in WWII. We know what divisions were deployed, when and where, how many men they had and how many they lost according to their unit histories. On the Eastern front that is consistent with what the Volksbund has been finding as it searches for and locates thousands each year in the East. I suggest you look up the Volksbund channel here on YouTube. The number of "live" POWs (2.3 million per NKVD/KGB) has to be qualified, only POWs who reached NKVD in-process were counted. The number of German POWs as reported by Red Army units that took them in is a better match to Wehrmacht estimates. Many were murdered shortly after capture or before they made it to be in-processed as official POWs.
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At @ , the numbers are not bogus, not at all. They are the baseline of reality in this topic. Saying they are bogus is akin to throwing them away, which revisionists will do happily and write a whole new false narrative and use your video as a reference. The fact is, the Wehrmacht does know how many men went MIA on the Eastern Front (3.2 million Vermisste) and how many were ever repatriated after the war (about 1.92 million). We don't have actual stats down to the eaches, but what we have is in the right proportions in a holistic sense of German casualties in WWII. We know what divisions were deployed, when and where, how many men they had and how many they lost according to their unit histories. On the Eastern front that is consistent with what the Volksbund has been finding as it searches for and locates thousands each year in the East. I suggest you look up the Volksbund channel here on YouTube. The number of "live" POWs (2.3 million per NKVD/KGB) has to be qualified, only POWs who reached NKVD in-process were counted. The number of German POWs as reported by Red Army units that took them in is a better match to Wehrmacht estimates. Many were murdered shortly after capture or before they made it to be in-processed as official POWs.
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"how much is to blame on fantastically competent Allied bombing?". 0% ?
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So, there are no other plausible explanations to the assertions you make? Only "zionist propaganda"(?), and the narrative you subscribe to and sell is the only accurate and honest truth?
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nope
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5 mil? Sure, ok.... 7 million Germans in total died during the war or were missing after, but 5 million were in the gulag? Where do you get you (BAD) info from???
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Hussein 7 million Germans, no way to tell how many were actually Nazis.
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@jcvr732 I'm 50, have an MA in WWII military history, traveled the world and still do. If I tried to explain conspiracy psychology and how that effects individual world view, what you're prone to believe in, etc. you'd blow it off as if it has nothing to do with you. So, I completely understand how you feel, but I just might have a bit more depth on all of this than you ever will. Something else you won't be able to acknowledge. I watch these boards to check the state of affairs of the negationists out there. It was a win when Youtube got rid of 80% of the trash.
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@jcvr732 What revisionist take on the topic of German POWs in the Soviet Union do you have? Just curious.
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@jcvr732 Its the topic of the video. So what was the point of commenting on a video you didn't bother to watch or claim to know nothing about its subject matter?
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@wireshrub Every group that has an identity looks out for its own for the most part. Why do you focus on Jews and then buy in to the "they control everything" BS conspiracy? Do you believe the "protocols" and subscribe to Illuminati conspiracy too??? If you do, try a little objective introspection, if possible.
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100% correct. The issue is the Germans know how many men they had, and how many came back by 1957. How the missing met their end has a lot of unknowns in it.
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@scottstambaugh8473 An interesting aside to the number of German POWs/MIA that never returned is that the percentage of Japanese taken in 1945 is similar. The campaign in Manchuria was very short, casualties relatively light for the Japanese, but the percentage of returning Soldiers after years in the Soviet Union was about the same as the German experience.
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@scottstambaugh8473 Its a rabbit hole I went down after looking into why Austrian POWs in particular had such a low survival rate (high percentage were taken at Stalingrad). After that I looked into Italian, then Hungarian, Romanian, Czech, and finally Japanese. Austrian and Italian are VERY low survival rates.
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@scottstambaugh8473 Yeah pretty much, the Italian 8th Army/ARMIR was enveloped as part of the series of counterattacks near Stalingrad, but they weren't in the pocket with the German 6th Army. They were relatively healthy when captured, which makes their attrition rate in captivity highly suspect.
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@scottstambaugh8473 Off the top of my head I think there were 54,000 "Missing" and about 11,000 were repatriated to Italy by 1956. I'm not sure about the Spanish, but there's interesting info out there on the number of "French" Soldiers that France was working on getting back from the USSR after 1945. This included W-SS personnel, and all of those conscripted from Alsace-Lorraine into the Wehrmacht.
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It was an extreme plan that was tossed out, never implemented for obvious humanitarian reasons.
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Interesting video, but for me the clarification to the numbers game starts with Wehrmacht statistics for "Vermisste" (Missing). There is a much clearer statistical set for the number of men known to have gone missing in the East, from unit records, personnel records, etc. Whether those men were KIA, died from wounds later, were captured and executed, etc. before being processed as Soviet POWs doesn't matter. What matters is ensuring that the number of men lost, on what front, when, is captured as accurately as possible. If there is any ambiguity, opportunists like James Bacque will show up like vultures and try to capitalize. If Germany had 3.2 million men MIA on the Eastern Front and 1.92 million were later repatriated, it still means that 1.3 million men were lost on THAT front. Comparing sources and estimates over POW death rates without MIA context leaves room for Bacque or other "revisionists" to create their false distorted narratives.
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