Comments by "broadbandislife" (@broadbandislife) on "The Critical Drinker" channel.

Indeed it does, though the real reason was very likely simply that a surplus T-55 ought to be rather easier to find for rent than actual WW2 hardware...
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Not a lot of AFVs among the materiél, the Germans kinda needed those themselves. Even their own forces oop north mostly got second-string and captured stuff (the ex-French SOMUA S-35s probably caused some bemused head-scratching among the Soviets for ex). The major exception was the batch of StuGs sent over to help with the decisive Red Army offensive of '44. The Army had T-55s in stock until like the close of the Cold War and AFAIK a handful of surplus specimen in running condition are now in the hands of collectors etc. around the country. Renting one of those is naturally much easier and cheaper than anything authentic. Not sure there even ARE any to be found 'round here.
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The Romans never even saw Norsemen. You're, like, the better part of a millennium off.
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what.
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T-54 was barely in the proto stage at the time. Just chalk it up to surplus T55s being way easier and cheaper to rent than anything period-authentic. And it does add that extra B-movie touch no?
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@Saltasaur "A tank from the late Forties can't fight mid-late Cold War ones without major modernisations, what a POS" Uh-huh.
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@Saltasaur That was literally what your closing statement boils down to you know. And basically everything else is heavy [citation needed].
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@Saltasaur You do realise that reads as "my source is I MADE IT THE FUCK UP" right?
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@Saltasaur And you had the gall to try to insult my reading comprehension.
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Budget. Also, deliberate B-movie narm.
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What I read was "why didn't they paint by numbers all the dead-horse tropes reeeeeeee"
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Take a guess which one's easier to find for rent on a budget, a surplus T-55 or authentic WW2 ironmongery... Adds to the B-movie 🧀tho
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Uh, no. That's just straight up a surplus T-55. Probably simply found one for rent for cheap, the Finnish military used to run a bunch until few decades ago. Running-order WW2 stuff is in bit of short supply nowadays.
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Helander mentioned in an interview that at when they started shooting Doolan went and swore he'd do the whole movie shirtless - "and boy did he come to regret that later!" (It got rather cold and very windy, not to mention all the biting insects...) Doolan apparently took the stoic stance that "pain is temporary, art is eternal" :P
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Pretty sure surplus T-55s are rather easier and cheaper to rent.
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@007oskari Only the northernmost parts of Lapland past the "tree line" are bare tundra at that, most is taiga terrain rife with forests of hardy conifers and boreal birch. Very beautiful in a stark, rugged fashion but not very amenable to life.
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@YTsux100pct._of-the-time. Comparatively speaking, perhaps. But let's not go regurgitating the "Clean Wehrmacht" whitewashing bullshit ex-Nazi generals were allowed to peddle during the Cold War in return of helping to set up the West German military; the Heer (regular army) was up to its eyebrows in diverse atrocities and war crimes, especially in the East. Didja know they specifically decriminalized rape before Barbarossa started?
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...I'm tolerably certain that's a grotesque misreading of There Will Be Blood right in the face of it.
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The English name is "Lapland War" actually. And describing the until recently co-belligerent German forces in the northern half of Finland as "in charge of defence of Lapland" sounds euphemistic at best given they were there to A) capture Murmansk or failing that at least the railroad connection to the Soviet heartlands thus severing a critical artery of Western aid (they succeeded in neither) B) secure the major nickel mine in Petsamo which at times supplied like 80% of the German war industry's needs of the vital strategic resource (successful until the Soviet Petsamo-Kirkenes Offensive threw them right back to northern Norway) The factual German loss of strategic initiative already in 42-43 didn't change this fundamental equation.
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TBF a running-order surplus T-55 rents way cheaper than one of the few authentic WW2 pieces still in working condition. Just take it as extra B-movie cheese on top.
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@Badvibesdude A Tiger in Lapland would be no more accurate... Anyway, given the Army was using some until the turn of the millennium I'd imagine there's some surplus T-55s readily rentable around Finland so yeah. Can't hurt that there's a proper international market for spare parts for the things.
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@Badvibesdude It actually would given important differences in layout and dimensions. Doesn't really help that the T-34 has a very distinctive profile.
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@Badvibesdude It's more that a Tiger dress-up is so much larger that you have ample room for the necessary tacked-on bits. Problem here is that between the two the T-34 is actually the bigger and heavier tank, especially the by now much more common /85 version whose turret is just a straight up no-go for dolling up into even halfway credible facsimile. Clearly the makers just said "fuck it" and embraced the B-movie narm of a flagrantly Off Model prop.
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@Badvibesdude A T-34 is probably the only period tank still found in running order in any real numbers that'd make even remotely workable starting point - there should be a fair number of Shermans around too but those are obviously Right Out given the drastic disparity in hull shape. There's even some sitting in the deep material reserves of some militaries AFAIK. Anyways, the point is that the makers clearly decided to just embrace the 🧀in keeping with the self-aware wink-and-nod character of the rest of the film instead of wasting additional time, money and effort on a half-assed facsimile that wouldn't have been terribly convincing anyway.
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@m.falcon6412 OW THE EDGE
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Waitwhat. Are you for real trying to argue the bullshit hypocrisy of the Fifties and codified finger-wagging conservative Moral Guardianship are somehow supposed to be admirable? Also movies and TV had existed for quite a while bafore that so yeeeeaaaaahhhhh...
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@yougeo Bold of you to assume I watch TV. And your sources were what exactly, again?
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Finnish Army used to run T-72's and if I understood correctly there's still two running-order surplus ones around the country used for exhibits and whatnot. Wouldn't be surprised if they just rented one of those simply because it was the best thing available on a budget - the Parola Armour Museum probably isn't too keen on loaning the authentic WW2 stuff. Plus it adds that extra touch of B-movie narm.
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@The_Judge300 T-54 was barely in prototype stage in '44 and you sure as shit weren't going to see any in a backwater zero-infrastructure theater like North Karelia. Just treat it as extra B-movie narm in the vein of those old war movies that had like M24 Chaffees with funky paint jobs and some kibble standing in for damn Panthers.
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"T-60" was a wartime light tank, the Soviets didn't reuse that index later. They did have a T-62 and a T-64 (which was never exported) but bore evacuator placement pegs this guy as a T-55.
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T-55, guess which one's easier to find for rent on a budget? Just treat it as extra B-movie 🧀 in the vein of all those old war movies that had like surplus Stuarts with some kibble glued on standing in for Tigers.
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