Comments by "Dorian Shades of gray" (@dorianshadesofgray2981) on "Paul Ryan speaks out on Trump's 'spy' claims" video.

  1. Andrew Campbell the world economy was growing after the financial crisis. Obama just went along for the ride. Can you name any policies he initiated that helped businesses grow and employ people... he was not known as the anti business president for nothing.. he put all those business killing regulations in place that thank God Trump has dismantled resulting in business confidence soaring again
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  2. Andrew Campbell OK 1. Handouts and bailouts are not policies.. all they do is put the country in further debt and kick the problem to the next president to solve. 9.5 trillion debt at start of presidency to 19.5 trillion at end of presidency. What did Obama do to actually address the underlying issues that hamper economic growth and prosperity? 2. Dodd Franks act is just another regulation on Financial instituations.. how did that help the economy? now one of the first things Trump did was to increase business confidence just by being elected, as businesses knew Trump was going to be a business friendly President. This was followed by Trump removing many of the unnecessary regulations that hampered businesses from growing and employing more people. Note it was Obama that introduced most of these regulations. The massive business friendly tax reform enabled businesses to start investing again and hiring more people. Opening up oil exploration in previously prohibited areas and currently America is at a point where is for the first time actually exporting oil. These are actually initiatives and policies that create business confidence and address the underlying issues that enable business to invest more and hire more people as therefore grow the economy and I reduce unemployment. All I give Obama credit for was not totally ballsing up the inevitable recovery from the global financial crisis. Look at the unemployment rate reduction during the same time as Germany , UK, Canada, Japan . All outperformed the USA
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  3. Andrew Campbell Presenting facts and then trying to spin them doesn’t win arguments.. Note on your Debt facts you conveniently overlook the fact that Obama had the highest debt of all the said presidents and trying to spin it as a smaller percentage is quite laughable. In terms of the subprime mortgage crisis, the Dodd frank act was a reactionary action that didn’t solve anything but in fact made it harder for small businesses to get loans which hurts the economy. Saying it may prevent a future crisis does nothing to add to your argument of Obama’s contribution to the economy. This scare mongering that removal of unnecessary regulations will result in the businesses polluting the waterways and destroying the environment only works against other Dumbass lefties like you.. regulations and policies are still in place that prevents businesses from doing the wrong thing. It is just over the top bureaucracy that stops development or delays it for decades that is being reassessed , reviewed and removed. The result of trump removing these unnecessary regulations is that business is benefiting and so is the economy and jobs for the people..gone are the days where businesses can hide wrong doings when it comes to environmental harm. Trying to reduce my argument to one statement on business confidence resulting from Trumps elections and ignoring the other facts presented just makes you look stupid and disingenuous. I have clearly stated that removal of regulations that hampered or prevented business from investing in growth has helped the economy.. The tax reform reducing corporate tax from 35% to 21% has clearly enabled business to invest more in their business and has also allowed business that have moved offshore to now come back to the United States. Similarly it has aided businesses who were either going to close down or move offshore to now stay in the United States. On this same line it is encouraging overseas businesses to set up in the United States.. the end result is good for the economy and for jobs. Lastly besides throwing money at bailouts what actual policy did Obama implement to address underlying problems of the economy that lead to its improvement? All I see is Obama going along for the ride and actually putting brakes on the economy that prevented it recovering must stronger and faster...
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  4. Andrew Campbell ok let’s focus on policies to stimulate the economy . We’ll drop the Dodd franks act and the debt as these are just distractions. I’ve clearly stated policies with regards to deregulation and business friendly tax reform that have increased business confidence and the links to improved economy and jobs are and obvious outcomes You can carry on as much as you like about the economy since 2012 but you haven’t given one policy that Obama implemented that increased that impacted the economy. Bailing out the auto industry just postponed job losses to the future. It did not address the underlying issues as to why it was failing. The economy like the the rest of the world was recovering from the global financial crisis and the US economy was no stand out recovery from other G7 countries. As I said Obama’s just rode the economic growth that the whole world was experiencing. He in fact put the brakes on the economy by over regulation.. whether that causes environmental issues or not is irrelevant for our economic argument. I guarantee you if Trump was president at the time the US economy would be in a lot better position then it was under Obama
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  5. Firstly if it takes 3 years for governments to impact the economy then you would have to give credit to Bush for his policies for the economic recovery.. can you spin your way out of that? In terms of trump taking credit for the economy 3 months in being a bit rich , I’ll give you that one. However 18 months in is long enough.. In terms of asking economist who is currently responsible for the economy 90% of 68 economist agree that Trumps policies are very favourable for GDP growth . When the Same survey was done in the previous year in which Obama was president these same economist didn’t mark Obama as well saying he was negative or neutral for gdp growth http://thehill.com/opinion/finance/368904-economists-agree-trump-not-obama-gets-credit-for-economy I don’t dislike Obama but he was all about social issues that I think were counter productive and caused more problems then they were designed to solve.. he presidency didn’t focus on economic reform or growth whereas Trump is the opposite.
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  6. Andrew Campbell sorry but I’ve got to laugh.. you really killed your argument with the 3 years thing. Bush finished his term in 2009 so his policies impacted until 2012 so in your books he is responsible for the upturn in the economy.. Anyway it’s been fun but I’ve got to go. Appreciate the debate and even though we don’t agree, it was in good spirits.. I hope for everyone’s Sake Trump is successful. I really believe even though he is a severely flawed human being, he is what this world needs right now. Good luck and thanks
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