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Very well written response but what do you think?
Iris Koh’s response to Prof Tommy Koh suggestion to penalise unvaccinated persons as read in TOC news;
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As Singapore's former Permanent Representative to the United Nations, I find your points "Third, we should reward those who have been vaccinated and penalise those who have not been vaccinated without a valid reason. I there propose that we bar entry by unvaccinated persons to our markets, supermarkets, Hawker centres, restaurants, bars, concerts, weddings, sports events and places of religious worship. Fully vaccinated persons should be allowed entry to all such places. Fourth, I think we should once again allow in- house dining for fully vaccinated persons of groups of six persons." to be highly objectionable in my opinion.
In my view, I believe it violates the Nuremberg Code.
"The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, over-reaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion, and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. This latter element requires that before the acceptance of an affirmative decision by the experimental subject there should be made known to him the nature, duration, and purpose of the experiment; the method and means by which it is to be conducted; all inconveniences and hazards reasonably to be expected; and the effects upon his health or person which may possibly come from his participation in the experiment.
The duty and responsibility for ascertaining the quality of the consent rests upon each individual who initiates, directs or engages in the experiment. It is a personal duty and responsibility which may not be delegated to another with impunity."
https://research.unc.edu/human-research-ethi…/…/ccm3_019064/
The vaccine issue should not divide the country and I am extremely disappointed by your intentions to "keep our seaports and airports open" but to deprive your fellow Singaporeans basic access to markets, supermarkets and obtaining basic essential services because we can't or won't take the MrNA vaccine, being still in the experimental phase and has only been granted emergency status at this stage by all the regulatory bodies.
The narrative that the non-vaxxed are to be blamed for the current situation is a highly dangerous one. When you make such statements, given your status and position, it gives others the permission to treat us like we are selfish and irresponsible when all we are trying to do is to do what is best for the country and for ourselves, with the limited information we have of vaccine injury and death numbers in Singapore. HSA's data just states injury numbers. Granting that all the injury numbers are not conclusively caused by the vaccine too, why not also include the death numbers?
What are the criterias to say if an injury or death is caused by the vaccine? Should a third party be involved to verify the links since there is a clear conflict of interest in the administering party of the vaccine and the party saying whether it's linked or not linked.
We should be fighting the virus together, not each other. I know of several friend's family members and people who have died suddenly after taking the vaccine, granting that it may or may not be related or due to the vaccine. But you must understand that as I have suffered these losses personally, I am unable to be fully assured of the safety of these vaccines.
If we are indeed forced to take the vaccine by preventing our access to essential services and basically just the right to be able to live in Singapore by going to the supermarket/market, then perhaps the government ought to be totally transparent about vaccine injury numbers and deaths after taking the vaccine to the public and have a third party to verify the numbers reported. This is in the best interest of public health and safety.
I have always respected and looked up to you sir. But today I feel very sad that if even someone who has been a champion for the United Nations can make such comments on your Facebook wall, then what hope can I have for others in Singapore to look out for basic human rights issues of citizens like me?
Our Singapore Pledge says, "regardless of race, language or religion". Does it say that we must be vaccinated to enjoy the basic privileges of a citizen?
I understand that you like many others must be worried and concerned about the current situation and I hope that you can reconsider the impact of your statements. I'm part of a group of people who are very concerned about vaccine issues and other ways to combat the virus and we hope that we can meet with you to have a constructive dialogue. Thank you.
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Comforting excuses but will it solve the problems; Let's recall what he said;
Lawrence Wong said [26 Jul 2021 in Parliament] - “As we do so, we must expect cases to rise, partly because there is still on going critic transmission in our communities which can easily breakout into new cluster with an increase activity level. Also, as we open our border for people to travel without SHN, we will see more imported cases and infected person slipping through from time to time, but at that stage as you heard just now, our main focus will no longer be on daily cases numbers because the vast majority by then would have been vaccinated and even if they catch the virus, they are much less likely to become very ill.” https://youtu.be/QYN3aEu8a0c?t=151
Lawrence Wong also said [4 May 2021] in defend of the imports – “We knew that there will be leak from time to time. We know that these Risk could happen”. Would you doubt that he put the citizens and the nation to “RISK” because as early as April 2021, Singapore sequencing reveals the highly contagious Delta COVID-19 variant were already spreading in Singapore?
So the Questions;
1. When he defended the imports in May, have they forsaken those who are yet to be vaccinated or for valid reasons cannot be vaccinated?
2. From May Until July, are there any tangible improvement, from his statement in May?
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The TCJ Saga, The ongoing Iswaran Saga, KOM Saga, The Ridout Saga, The AMK Saga, MAS lost money, Temasek lost money and many more Sagas apparently yet to be discovered. All these lead to the suspicion of 1 thing - "Incompetence".
Goes to show that Ownself Check Ownself, can only leads to more problems for Singapore.
Its not about the "After-the-Event" mitigation and or camouflaging Actions, Its about a proof and proven Independent System ought to be in-place for the assurance and security of Singapore.
So, PS is Right. All he wanted is 1/3 for the benefits of Safeguarding Singapore and Singaporeans. I'll say, Give it to him.
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Listen to what Lawrence Wong said in Parliament;
Lawrence Wong said [26 Jul 2021 in Parliament] - “As we do so, we must expect cases to rise, partly because there is still on going critic transmission in our communities which can easily breakout into new cluster with an increase activity level. Also, as we open our border for people to travel without SHN, we will see more imported cases and infected person slipping through from time to time, but at that stage as you heard just now, our main focus will no longer be on daily cases numbers because the vast majority by then would have been vaccinated and even if they catch the virus, they are much less likely to become very ill.”
https://youtu.be/QYN3aEu8a0c?t=151
Risking your lives and our families safety for the imports to benefits the rich, is it worth it?. Who give them the permission to gamble our lives away with non BLA approved Trial Drugs. It's a gamble because there is no credibility to any of such narratives without comprehensive long terms health damage data to support it. Everyone should really think about it come 2025 how to move forward. Worse, true numbers will not even be reported, the word should be "suppressed".
Lawrence Wong also said [4 May 2021] in defend of the imports – “We knew that there will be leak from time to time. We know that these Risk could happen”. Would you doubt that he put the citizens and the nation to “RISK” because as early as April 2021, Singapore sequencing reveals the highly contagious Delta COVID-19 variant were already spreading in Singapore?
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Listen to what Lawrence Wong said in Parliament;
Lawrence Wong said [26 Jul 2021 in Parliament] - “As we do so, we must expect cases to rise, partly because there is still on going critic transmission in our communities which can easily breakout into new cluster with an increase activity level. Also, as we open our border for people to travel without SHN, we will see more imported cases and infected person slipping through from time to time, but at that stage as you heard just now, our main focus will no longer be on daily cases numbers because the vast majority by then would have been vaccinated and even if they catch the virus, they are much less likely to become very ill.”
https://youtu.be/QYN3aEu8a0c?t=151
Risking your lives and our families safety for the imports to benefits the rich, is it worth it?. Who give them the permission to gamble our lives away with non BLA approved Trial Drugs. It's a gamble because there is no credibility to any of such narratives without comprehensive long terms health damage data to support it. Everyone should really think about it come 2025 how to move forward. Worse, true numbers will not even be reported, the word should be "suppressed".
Lawrence Wong also said [4 May 2021] in defend of the imports – “We knew that there will be leak from time to time. We know that these Risk could happen”. Would you doubt that he put the citizens and the nation to “RISK” because as early as April 2021, Singapore sequencing reveals the highly contagious Delta COVID-19 variant were already spreading in Singapore?
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Listen to what Lawrence Wong said in Parliament;
Lawrence Wong said [26 Jul 2021 in Parliament] - “As we do so, we must expect cases to rise, partly because there is still on going critic transmission in our communities which can easily breakout into new cluster with an increase activity level. Also, as we open our border for people to travel without SHN, we will see more imported cases and infected person slipping through from time to time, but at that stage as you heard just now, our main focus will no longer be on daily cases numbers because the vast majority by then would have been vaccinated and even if they catch the virus, they are much less likely to become very ill.”
https://youtu.be/QYN3aEu8a0c?t=151
Risking your lives and our families safety for the imports to benefits the rich, is it worth it?. Who give them the permission to gamble our lives away with non BLA approved Trial Drugs. It's a gamble because there is no credibility to any of such narratives without comprehensive long terms health damage data to support it. Everyone should really think about it come 2025 how to move forward. Worse, true numbers will not even be reported, the word should be "suppressed".
Lawrence Wong also said [4 May 2021] in defend of the imports – “We knew that there will be leak from time to time. We know that these Risk could happen”. Would you doubt that he put the citizens and the nation to “RISK” because as early as April 2021, Singapore sequencing reveals the highly contagious Delta COVID-19 variant were already spreading in Singapore?
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@sps6 Don't be too dim. All Trades agreements are not the same. See Annex 9A of CECA to understand - 127 Good Paying Jobs are Traded away in CECA from Software Engineer, Network Analyst, Architects [Building, Landscape to Interior], Engineers [Civil, Structural, Electrical, Lift, Electronics, computer, semiconductor etc]. Are these not depriving our PMET of good paying jobs? Just reflect on the PAP Performance as compared to regional countries performance lately in terms of GDP. Furthermore, New Citizens are exempted from serving the Army and Reservist.
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Listen to what Lawrence Wong said in Parliament;
Lawrence Wong said [26 Jul 2021 in Parliament] - “As we do so, we must expect cases to rise, partly because there is still on going critic transmission in our communities which can easily breakout into new cluster with an increase activity level. Also, as we open our border for people to travel without SHN, we will see more imported cases and infected person slipping through from time to time, but at that stage as you heard just now, our main focus will no longer be on daily cases numbers because the vast majority by then would have been vaccinated and even if they catch the virus, they are much less likely to become very ill.”
https://youtu.be/QYN3aEu8a0c?t=151
Risking your lives and our families safety for the imports to benefits the rich, is it worth it?. Who give them the permission to gamble our lives away with non BLA approved Trial Drugs. It's a gamble because there is no credibility to any of such narratives without comprehensive long terms health damage data to support it. Everyone should really think about it come 2025 how to move forward. Worse, true numbers will not even be reported, the word should be "suppressed".
Lawrence Wong also said [4 May 2021] in defend of the imports – “We knew that there will be leak from time to time. We know that these Risk could happen”. Would you doubt that he put the citizens and the nation to “RISK” because as early as April 2021, Singapore sequencing reveals the highly contagious Delta COVID-19 variant were already spreading in Singapore?
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The more they manage, the worst it becomes. I think those are the problems associated with trying to cut cost to pay for expensive rental cost and undoubtedly, the inflation caused by GST system, the unnecessary multi-layered management, utilities hikes, gas hike etc. just to earn a living.
And, Unlike during the times of the old man, breakfasts were cheap, foods were cheap, jobs a plentiful, people were happy. These days you have to ask where are the smiling faces other than the MIWs?
The 4G report card.
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Listen to what Lawrence Wong said in Parliament;
Lawrence Wong said [26 Jul 2021 in Parliament] - “As we do so, we must expect cases to rise, partly because there is still on going critic transmission in our communities which can easily breakout into new cluster with an increase activity level. Also, as we open our border for people to travel without SHN, we will see more imported cases and infected person slipping through from time to time, but at that stage as you heard just now, our main focus will no longer be on daily cases numbers because the vast majority by then would have been vaccinated and even if they catch the virus, they are much less likely to become very ill.”
https://youtu.be/QYN3aEu8a0c?t=151
Risking your lives and our families safety for the imports to benefits the rich, is it worth it?. Who give them the permission to gamble our lives away with non BLA approved Trial Drugs. It's a gamble because there is no credibility to any of such narratives without comprehensive long terms health damage data to support it. Everyone should really think about it come 2025 how to move forward. Worse, true numbers will not even be reported, the word should be "suppressed".
Lawrence Wong also said [4 May 2021] in defend of the imports – “We knew that there will be leak from time to time. We know that these Risk could happen”. Would you doubt that he put the citizens and the nation to “RISK” because as early as April 2021, Singapore sequencing reveals the highly contagious Delta COVID-19 variant were already spreading in Singapore?
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Let's hope the new President will call for a COI [Commission Not Committee of Inquiry under the INQUIRIES ACT 2007] on the Ridout case.
"Commission of Inquiry Act" is called by the President under the INQUIRIES ACT 2007 whereas An Independent Review Committee, on the other hand, is similar to your annual dinner & dance (D&D) organising committee in a way - you can't use the law to 'force' anyone to do anything.
Here are the inquiry powers of a COI from the Inquiries Act ( highlighted some points noteworthy):
(2) For the purposes of conducting an inquiry under this Act, the inquiry body shall have powers to —
(a) procure and receive all such evidence, written or oral, as the inquiry body may think it necessary or desirable to procure;
(b) examine all such persons as witnesses as the inquiry body may think it necessary or desirable to examine, and determine the order in which those witnesses shall be examined;
(c) require the evidence (whether written or oral) of any witness to be made on oath or affirmation (such oath or affirmation to be that which could be required of the witness if he were giving evidence in a court) or by statutory declaration;
(d) summon any person in Singapore to attend any meeting of the inquiry body to do all or any of the following:
(i) give evidence;
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(f) require a witness to execute a bond binding himself to attend when called upon before the inquiry body to give evidence.
As you can see from the above, a COI is pretty powerful in getting answers.
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What we have seen, more tax, gst, carbon, tariff hikes, Ridout Road, Corruption, Xaffairs, CECA, Poor Job Security, rising COE, rising Population, rising COL, rising Public Housing almost beyond reach, expensive coffee shops, food etc.
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This is the kind of Professional Singapore needs, truthful, non-partisan and unbiased in the face of the Pandemic & Pressure. Well done, Professor!. You gave the best advice but despite some people unheeded with "No hindsight", "Operate in Fog" excuses.
As we recall from her [last year];
From Prof Leo [Executive Director NCID]; [She was interviewed and Media Broadcasted], she said;
"Basically, we do not know ten years, twenty years down the line. Which strategy gives you the best, we don't know, and I think the important thing to know is that we do know how the covit19 virus can damage the body, and the effect can be long lasting although we don't see it, so we don't know the price that you pay, the immediate price versus the longer-term price."
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"Commission of Inquiry Act" is called by the President under the INQUIRIES ACT 2007 whereas An Independent Review Committee, on the other hand, is similar to your annual dinner & dance (D&D) organising committee in a way - you can't use the law to 'force' anyone to do anything.
Here are the inquiry powers of a COI from the Inquiries Act ( highlighted some points noteworthy):
(2) For the purposes of conducting an inquiry under this Act, the inquiry body shall have powers to —
(a) procure and receive all such evidence, written or oral, as the inquiry body may think it necessary or desirable to procure;
(b) examine all such persons as witnesses as the inquiry body may think it necessary or desirable to examine, and determine the order in which those witnesses shall be examined;
(c) require the evidence (whether written or oral) of any witness to be made on oath or affirmation (such oath or affirmation to be that which could be required of the witness if he were giving evidence in a court) or by statutory declaration;
(d) summon any person in Singapore to attend any meeting of the inquiry body to do all or any of the following:
(i) give evidence;
(ii)produce any document, record or other thing in his custody or under his control;
(e) issue a warrant of arrest to compel the attendance of any person who, after having been summoned to attend, fails to do so, and does not excuse such failure to the satisfaction of the inquiry body, and order him to pay all costs which may have been occasioned in compelling his attendance or by reason of his refusal to obey the summons; and
(f) require a witness to execute a bond binding himself to attend when called upon before the inquiry body to give evidence.
As you can see from the above, a COI is pretty powerful in getting answers.
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@leelilian7514 Listen to what Lawrence Wong said in Parliament;
Lawrence Wong said [26 Jul 2021 in Parliament] - “As we do so, we must expect cases to rise, partly because there is still on going critic transmission in our communities which can easily breakout into new cluster with an increase activity level. Also, as we open our border for people to travel without SHN, we will see more imported cases and infected person slipping through from time to time, but at that stage as you heard just now, our main focus will no longer be on daily cases numbers because the vast majority by then would have been vaccinated and even if they catch the virus, they are much less likely to become very ill.”
https://youtu.be/QYN3aEu8a0c?t=151
Risking your lives and our families safety for the imports to benefits the rich, is it worth it?. Who give them the permission to gamble our lives away with non BLA approved Trial Drugs. It's a gamble because there is no credibility to any of such narratives without comprehensive long terms health damage data to support it. Everyone should really think about it come 2025 how to move forward. Worse, true numbers will not even be reported, the word should be "suppressed".
Lawrence Wong also said [4 May 2021] in defend of the imports – “We knew that there will be leak from time to time. We know that these Risk could happen”. Would you doubt that he put the citizens and the nation to “RISK” because as early as April 2021, Singapore sequencing reveals the highly contagious Delta COVID-19 variant were already spreading in Singapore?
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So, just who is not telling the truth in its entirety?
LW said "sooner or later, many of us will end up catching the virus, but we will have zero or mild symptoms (and) recover from home after a few days".
From Prof Leo [Executive Director NCID];
"Basically, we do not know ten years, twenty years down the line. Which strategy gives you the best, we don't know, and I think the important thing to know is that we do know how the covit19 virus can damage the body, and the effect can be long lasting although we don't see it, so we don't know the price that you pay, the immediate price versus the longer-term price."
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@Niatnuom_Esiotrot For Clarity, The Multiplying Effects imply the GST Hike applies on everything for example on the ingredients cost example, 1% more on sugar, 1% more of soya sauce, 1% more on Electricity, 1% more on Rental, 1% more on oil, 1% more on Petrol, 1% more on transport etc to prepare the food. ALL THESE REVENUES ARE COLLECTABLE BY THE GOVT, not the Seller, So it is NOT 1% but multiples of 1%. The easiest to compare is to compare with equivalent Johore supermarket price for example [NOT NTUC].
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"Commission of Inquiry Act" is called by the President under the INQUIRIES ACT 2007 whereas An Independent Review Committee, on the other hand, is similar to your annual dinner & dance (D&D) organising committee in a way - you can't use the law to 'force' anyone to do anything.
Here are the inquiry powers of a COI from the Inquiries Act ( highlighted some points noteworthy):
(2) For the purposes of conducting an inquiry under this Act, the inquiry body shall have powers to —
(a) procure and receive all such evidence, written or oral, as the inquiry body may think it necessary or desirable to procure;
(b) examine all such persons as witnesses as the inquiry body may think it necessary or desirable to examine, and determine the order in which those witnesses shall be examined;
(c) require the evidence (whether written or oral) of any witness to be made on oath or affirmation (such oath or affirmation to be that which could be required of the witness if he were giving evidence in a court) or by statutory declaration;
(d) summon any person in Singapore to attend any meeting of the inquiry body to do all or any of the following:
(i) give evidence;
(ii)produce any document, record or other thing in his custody or under his control;
(e) issue a warrant of arrest to compel the attendance of any person who, after having been summoned to attend, fails to do so, and does not excuse such failure to the satisfaction of the inquiry body, and order him to pay all costs which may have been occasioned in compelling his attendance or by reason of his refusal to obey the summons; and
(f) require a witness to execute a bond binding himself to attend when called upon before the inquiry body to give evidence.
As you can see from the above, a COI is pretty powerful in getting answers.
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"Commission of Inquiry Act" is called by the President under the INQUIRIES ACT 2007 whereas An Independent Review Committee, on the other hand, is similar to your annual dinner & dance (D&D) organising committee in a way - you can't use the law to 'force' anyone to do anything.
Here are the inquiry powers of a COI from the Inquiries Act ( highlighted some points noteworthy):
(2) For the purposes of conducting an inquiry under this Act, the inquiry body shall have powers to —
(a) procure and receive all such evidence, written or oral, as the inquiry body may think it necessary or desirable to procure;
(b) examine all such persons as witnesses as the inquiry body may think it necessary or desirable to examine, and determine the order in which those witnesses shall be examined;
(c) require the evidence (whether written or oral) of any witness to be made on oath or affirmation (such oath or affirmation to be that which could be required of the witness if he were giving evidence in a court) or by statutory declaration;
(d) summon any person in Singapore to attend any meeting of the inquiry body to do all or any of the following:
(i) give evidence;
(ii)produce any document, record or other thing in his custody or under his control;
(e) issue a warrant of arrest to compel the attendance of any person who, after having been summoned to attend, fails to do so, and does not excuse such failure to the satisfaction of the inquiry body, and order him to pay all costs which may have been occasioned in compelling his attendance or by reason of his refusal to obey the summons; and
(f) require a witness to execute a bond binding himself to attend when called upon before the inquiry body to give evidence.
As you can see from the above, a COI is pretty powerful in getting answers.
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If you look at the No fly Zone Map, nearly the Whole of Singapore is Restricted and with disproportionately high heavy fines.
The next you know is GST Hike in 2024 again.
"WHAT WOULD MAKE YOU RAISE GST?
PROFILGATE SPENDING AND IRRESPONSIBLE UNSUSTAINABLE PLANS!" -PM LEE,GE2015
Very hard to tahan PAP lavish increase spending forever, from GST, Carbon Tax, HDB, COE, ERP, ARF, PARF, Compulsory MediShield [while Malaysia 0% GST and major surgery at $Zero Dollar]
Time for Change.
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I think its mere Comfort Stories.
If you read the 2013 PM Lee May day Rally Speech, the answers are all there;
Quote: “…..very careful as we tighten up. Because business costs will go up, it will become harder for companies to operate here, our competitiveness can be affected, our cost of living can be affected. Because wages go up, costs go up, prices will follow. And we have to make sure we watch our competitiveness, and we do not overdo things. Likewise when we tighten up on PMETs; we have to adjust, we need to, we need to introduce safeguards for Singaporean PMETs. But if we make it too difficult for companies to get the skills and talent which they need here, they will go elsewhere. And I think that would be disastrous for our PMETs, for our workers, for our families and for Singapore. We have to stay an attractive place to do business.” UnQuote
If you digest the statements and remove all the padding-in excuses, it essentially could be read as;
“To allow in Cheap Foreign Labours and Cheap PMETs to sustain the Businesses in Singapore or they will go somewhere else.
Singapore is in Survival mode or in the ICU, so to speak. So those Excuses of Not having Enough PMETs, No Talents, No Skills are all but mere excuses;
1. To shift the blames to Singaporeans
2. To hide the truths away from Singaporeans that the PAPi is incapable to improving the lives of all Singaporeans and made sacrifices at Singaporeans expense for Elite Businesses to Run.
So, 8 years have passed and they continues to be out of ideas to better run the country but appeared to allow Singaporeans to be displaced, out of jobs for them to run their Businesses and continue to collect their taxes and collect their World Highest Salaries? I think is No Shame Whatsoever while Singaporeans are going through all the hardships?
Can you accept to be forced to accept foreigners to your home lunch table eating your food and after expelling the most denigrating remarks on you and your family after the food?
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@tanjongmalim6869 Amongst the lowest [lower than Singapore] are Saudi Arabia, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Syria, Macau, China [as listed], North Korea [as listed] etc.... I avoided stating lowest because it would invite meaningless comparison arguments. But as listed in wiki, The lowest listed is Turkmenistan. The Point I made is his feigning inaccuracies in his BS. I am not interested in who is the lowest. Every single death must be taken seriously and accounted for.
On the 2 Aug 2022, there were 22 Up Lorries in a single day alone.
Also [Reference: MOM will resume entry approvals for work pass holders and their dependents with travel history to higher risk countries from 10 Aug. This was announced in the press release by the Ministry of Health on Friday evening (6 Aug).] After that we have mounting deaths, and cases shot up as high as over 3000 cases per day. If you look at the data and the graph from JHU CSSE COVID-19 Data, you can clearly see the peak begin from 20 Sept 21 and "SHARP" peaked on 11 Nov 21with 14 deaths on a 7 days average during that time.
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Is that the PAPi you have voted? Listen to what Lawrence Wong said in Parliament;
Lawrence Wong said [26 Jul 2021 in Parliament] - “As we do so, we must expect cases to rise, partly because there is still on going critic transmission in our communities which can easily breakout into new cluster with an increase activity level. Also, as we open our border for people to travel without SHN, we will see more imported cases and infected person slipping through from time to time, but at that stage as you heard just now, our main focus will no longer be on daily cases numbers because the vast majority by then would have been vaccinated and even if they catch the virus, they are much less likely to become very ill.”
https://youtu.be/QYN3aEu8a0c?t=151
Risking your lives and our families safety for the imports to benefits the rich, is it worth it?. Who give them the permission to gamble our lives away with non BLA approved Trial Drugs. It's a gamble because there is no credibility to any of such narratives without comprehensive long terms health damage data to support it. Furthermore, some of the vaccinated still died. According to CDC, there were 1063 death in 5492 vaccine breakthrough cases [vaccinated but still infected cases] example 19% of death were amongst those vaccinated and infected. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html
Everyone should really think about it come 2025 how to move forward. Apparently, the Worse is, the intention to not report [suppressed] the rising infection numbers anymore. Is that the PAPi you have voted?
Lawrence Wong also said [4 May 2021] in defend of the imports – “We knew that there will be leak from time to time. We know that these Risk could happen”. Would you doubt that he put the citizens and the nation to “RISK” because as early as April 2021, Singapore sequencing reveals the highly contagious Delta COVID-19 variant were already spreading in Singapore?
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@tinyblackmage And you want a myopic view that personal tax and GST are the only revenue for the country under PAP rule? I think with the PAP, forever medical expenditure rises with aging population excuses. Despite CECA, despite importing FTs, despite all their implementation, we see expensive medical expenditure plus the need to pay for Useless medishield, skyrocketed Public Housing, Electricity hikes, Public Transport Hikes, Water hikes, Gas Hikes, Conservancy fees Hikes, expensive COE, ARP, ERP etc... and but they pay themselves World Highest. Time for Alternative Talents and Alternative Solution.
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Listen to what Lawrence Wong said in Parliament;
Lawrence Wong said [26 Jul 2021 in Parliament] - “As we do so, we must expect cases to rise, partly because there is still on going critic transmission in our communities which can easily breakout into new cluster with an increase activity level. Also, as we open our border for people to travel without SHN, we will see more imported cases and infected person slipping through from time to time, but at that stage as you heard just now, our main focus will no longer be on daily cases numbers because the vast majority by then would have been vaccinated and even if they catch the virus, they are much less likely to become very ill.”
https://youtu.be/QYN3aEu8a0c?t=151
Risking your lives and our families safety for the imports to benefits the rich, is it worth it?. Who give them the permission to gamble our lives away with non BLA approved Trial Drugs. It's a gamble because there is no credibility to any of such narratives without comprehensive long terms health damage data to support it. Everyone should really think about it come 2025 how to move forward. Worse, true numbers will not even be reported, the word should be "suppressed".
Lawrence Wong also said [4 May 2021] in defend of the imports – “We knew that there will be leak from time to time. We know that these Risk could happen”. Would you doubt that he put the citizens and the nation to “RISK” because as early as April 2021, Singapore sequencing reveals the highly contagious Delta COVID-19 variant were already spreading in Singapore?
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@lingth In essence it’s like Selling Singaporeans Livelihoods for the rich, elite and business survival. As it continues, everyone will be affected sooner or later. Everyone should think about it in 2025 the way moving forward.
If you read the 2013 PM Lee May day Rally Speech, the answers are all there; Quote: “…..very careful as we tighten up. Because business costs will go up, it will become harder for companies to operate here, our competitiveness can be affected, our cost of living can be affected. Because wages go up, costs go up, prices will follow. And we have to make sure we watch our competitiveness, and we do not overdo things. Likewise when we tighten up on PMETs; we have to adjust, we need to, we need to introduce safeguards for Singaporean PMETs. But if we make it too difficult for companies to get the skills and talent which they need here, they will go elsewhere. And I think that would be disastrous for our PMETs, for our workers, for our families and for Singapore. We have to stay an attractive place to do business.” UnQuote
If you digest the statements and remove all the padding-in excuses, it essentially could be read as; “To allow in Cheap Foreign Labours and Cheap PMETs to sustain the Businesses in Singapore or they will go somewhere else. Singapore is in Survival mode or in the ICU, so to speak.
So those Excuses of Not having Enough PMETs, No Talents, No Skills are all but mere excuses;
1. To shift the blames to Singaporeans
2. To hide the truths away from Singaporeans that the PAPi is incapable to improving the lives of all Singaporeans and made sacrifices at Singaporeans expense for Elite Businesses to Run.
So, 8 years have passed and PAPi continues to be out of ideas to better run the country but appeared to allow Singaporeans to be displaced, out of jobs for them to run their Businesses and continue to collect their taxes and collect their World Highest Salaries? I think is No Shame Whatsoever while Singaporeans are going through all the hardships?
Can you accept to be forced to accept foreigners to your home lunch table eating your food and after expelling the most denigrating remarks on you and your family after the food?
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@lingth How much are you paying to the GST
Assuming you manage to save 10% and 90% spent.
Below table exclude personal income tax to be paid.
So if your take home pay is $5K, then in 10 years time, approximately you would pay ~$46,800.00 to the government.
The money so dearly needed for your family and your retirement saving.
SOLUTION: BALANCE UP THE PARLIAMENT AND YOU CAN SAVE THE MONEY, PERIOD. IS THAT SIMPLE.
Take Home Pay___ Last 5 Yrs @ 7%__ Next 5 Yrs @ 9%____ Total Lost
$1,000.00__________$4,095.00_________________$5,265.00___________$9,360.00
$1,500.00__________$6,142.50_________________$7,897.50___________$14,040.00
$2,000.00__________$8,190.00_________________$10,530.00___________$18,720.00
$2,500.00__________$10,237.50_________________$13,162.50___________$23,400.00
$3,000.00__________$12,285.00_________________$15,795.00___________$28,080.00
$4,000.00__________$16,380.00_________________$21,060.00___________$37,440.00
$5,000.00__________$20,475.00_________________$26,325.00___________$46,800.00
$6,000.00__________$24,570.00_________________$31,590.00___________$56,160.00
$7,000.00__________$28,665.00_________________$36,855.00___________$65,520.00
$8,000.00__________$32,760.00_________________$42,120.00___________$74,880.00
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@brmin7312 Your reply is tantamount of saying that Singapore is doomed and must expect rising infection and the worse of miseries to come because it must keep its border opened? No, I don't think so and that is pure stupidity and incorrect. Singaporeans at large are ZERO TOLERANCE to ANY LEAKAGE OF THE COVIT-19 VIRUS into the communities, "knowingly uncurbed".
Let's recall what Lawrence Wong said;
Lawrence Wong said [26 Jul 2021 in Parliament] - “As we do so, we must expect cases to rise, partly because there is still on going critic transmission in our communities which can easily breakout into new cluster with an increase activity level. Also, as we open our border for people to travel without SHN, we will see more imported cases and infected person slipping through from time to time, but at that stage as you heard just now, our main focus will no longer be on daily cases numbers because the vast majority by then would have been vaccinated and even if they catch the virus, they are much less likely to become very ill.” https://youtu.be/QYN3aEu8a0c?t=151
Lawrence Wong also said [4 May 2021] in defend of the imports – “We knew that there will be leak from time to time. We know that these Risk could happen”. Would you doubt that he put the citizens and the nation to “RISK” because as early as April 2021, Singapore sequencing reveals the highly contagious Delta COVID-19 variant were already spreading in Singapore?
So the Questions;
1. When he defended the imports in May, have they forsaken those who are yet to be vaccinated or for valid reasons cannot be vaccinated?
2. From May Until July, are there any tangible improvement, from his statement in May?
It cannot be denied that New Zealand success in controlling and containing the covit-19 virus are their Capable and Decisive Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and its Multi-Parties Ministers in Parliament and for their Preemptive, Proactive and prompt decisive action in fighting, controlling and containing the virus without necessitating silly devices like TraceTogether token or Apps or violating the vaccine authorization condition example Optional or Voluntary while respecting its people freedom of choices. Well done New Zealand and Patriots like me will have to stay to help make changes for all Singaporeans benefits and well-being.
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No wonder more elderlies are found dead alone in their "leased" apartment these days, ARE there any connection with the ATAS public service these days? Cannot Accept lah!.
Take an example: Your heart is racing fast, blood pressure shot upwards, you are feeling giddy, staying alone, will you struggle yourself to the hospital OR wait for help and medical apparatus to come? Heart attack 5 mins up lorry, that's how my friend relate his dad predicament to me, up lorry in the car on the way to the hospital, he picked him up and on the way.
These days, Expensive taxes and ATAS and USELESS. For You, with You, Swiss Standard of living, MY FOOT!
I intend to help Singapore and the average Singaporeans in 2025.
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While Malaysia, Indonesia, China, Vietnam and others are doing well. So, What can you expect from the World Most expensive 4Gs calling themselves "strong" aka "the best". I want to laugh. And the next you know is GST Hike in 2024 despite CECA, ICT, rising cost of living, sky high HDB/BTO.
The Malaysian economy expanded by 5.6% in the first quarter of 2023 (Q1 2023), comparing favourably with regional growth such as Indonesia (5%), China (4.5%) and Vietnam (3.3%).
Singapore’s GDP Grew by 0.1 Per Cent in the First Quarter of 2023 despite CECA, ICT, rising cost of living, sky high HDB/BTO.
Time for Change.
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@soreeyez
From Prof Leo [Executive Director NCID];
"Basically, we do not know ten years, twenty years down the line. Which strategy gives you the best, we don't know, and I think the important thing to know is that we do know how the covit19 virus can damage the body, and the effect can be long lasting, although we don't see it, so we don't know the price that you pay, the immediate price versus the longer-term price."
From Prof Hsu;
"6 to 7 death everyday, is that the number we might be willing to accept in Singapore?"
"bleeding in the brain, they were not pick up in the clinical trial, the signal was not strong enough and only when you vaccinate millions of people that this thing started to show up, this adverse effect started to show up, so I think for children is a very difficult question because if the same vaccination show the same rate of Myocarditis as for young adults, then the risk benefit is completely......it will really be unacceptable for children to be vaccinated".
From Prof OOi;
Forget about Herd Immunity for Covit.
Long Covit was omitted from the discussion.
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@ukchatman4920 You have absolutely NO Basis whatsoever, Whether you want to talk about common man logic, rules Or law Or what have you, since To date the United States has neither signed nor ratified the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, which is a FACT. That means 168 party members say YOU ARE WRONG. Just like a high class members only establishment, your entry is NOT welcome. Hence, any common man on the street can understand and agree that they are provoking World Efforts at Peace and seen to be going against International Orders of things, rules and laws. Unless you have valid reasons or sound basis, otherwise please don't expect a reply, the absence of which, means, I don't agree with you.
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You have absolutely NO Basis whatsoever, Whether you want to talk about common man logic, rules Or law Or what have you, since To date the United States has neither signed nor ratified the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, which is a FACT. That means 168 party members say YOU ARE WRONG. Just like a high class members only establishment, your entry is NOT welcome. Hence, any common man on the street can understand and agree that they are provoking World Efforts at Peace and seen to be going against International Orders of things, rules and laws. Unless you have valid reasons or sound basis, otherwise please don't expect a reply, the absence of which, means, I don't agree with you.
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ukchatman4920 You have absolutely NO Basis whatsoever, Whether you want to talk about common man logic, rules Or law Or what have you, since To date the United States has neither signed nor ratified the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, which is a FACT. That means 168 party members say YOU ARE WRONG. Just like a high class members only establishment, your entry is NOT welcome. Hence, any common man on the street can understand and agree that they are provoking World Efforts at Peace and seen to be going against International Orders of things, rules and laws. Unless you have valid reasons or sound basis, otherwise please don't expect a reply, the absence of which, means, I don't agree with you.
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@deacan5510 Precisely, talking and talking during operation, not tactical enough, lacks unity of strength, unaware of surroundings, too loose and letting the suspect getting so close as to humiliate them with "fake" stabbing. What else to say? Lacks of seriousness and Training and needing someone to kick their butts and tell them specifically that Gun is not always the solution? Considering the numbers of Officers deployed, I think it must be a joke. Sadly, the life of a mentally distressed youth is lost. Seriousness in the jobs begin with swift, orderly & proper enforcement, education, training and corrective measures.
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Shoot when attacked, not shoot when the man "advances", a small broken bottle cannot be classified as a lethal weapon for any trained Policeman!. The Police were everywhere, which ever direction he "walks" [except the field], he can be said to be "advancing". Unless the Police can categorically demonstrate that he has the intention to be "attacking", otherwise I would say the Head of the Police must be held accountable for many of such incidents and unnecessary lost of lives. Yet again, I would say, lack of skill and patient to diffuse the situation, trigger happy, maybe? In my country, the head gets the chop, in Japan, likely the head performs the "harakiri" for staff mistake. Consider the steer out-numbering Police in quantity, a hand combat would have prevented such death. You think their "d*ck" planted in their backside?
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@pathfinder1672 For just the other day on the 2 Aug 2022, there were 22 Up Lorries in a single day alone, hence you can see why literally any ordinary sensible Singaporeans will disagree with your biased view which is empty of substance, example of all things, import from High Risks Countries to build "HDB" in a Pandemic Situation???.. For till today, there is No Ending to be seen.
Priority must be on the citizen well-being and safety, for 1 up lorry in a single day is inexcusable, 22 is unpardonable.
Not that there cannot be any screw-ups but for screw-up of such magnitude, may I suggest to honorably own-up the responsibility, apologize to families in pain, compensate and then do the right honorable thing, for example like Japan Mr Yoshihide Suga.
Quote from Elon: Some people don't like change, but you need to embrace change if the alternative is disaster.
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Listen to what Lawrence Wong said in Parliament;
Lawrence Wong said [26 Jul 2021 in Parliament] - “As we do so, we must expect cases to rise, partly because there is still on going critic transmission in our communities which can easily breakout into new cluster with an increase activity level. Also, as we open our border for people to travel without SHN, we will see more imported cases and infected person slipping through from time to time, but at that stage as you heard just now, our main focus will no longer be on daily cases numbers because the vast majority by then would have been vaccinated and even if they catch the virus, they are much less likely to become very ill.”
https://youtu.be/QYN3aEu8a0c?t=151
Risking your lives and our families safety for the imports to benefits the rich, is it worth it?. Who give them the permission to gamble our lives away with non BLA approved Trial Drugs. It's a gamble because there is no credibility to any of such narratives without comprehensive long terms health damage data to support it. Everyone should really think about it come 2025 how to move forward. Worse, true numbers will not even be reported, the word should be "suppressed".
Lawrence Wong also said [4 May 2021] in defend of the imports – “We knew that there will be leak from time to time. We know that these Risk could happen”. Would you doubt that he put the citizens and the nation to “RISK” because as early as April 2021, Singapore sequencing reveals the highly contagious Delta COVID-19 variant were already spreading in Singapore?
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@WumingBoshi-oe9yu3ib7p How can you compare with Infinity tax percentage explained above and COE, PARF, ARF, etc? Other countries provide their citizens with free education, free medical benefits, free unemployment benefits, free pension etc. Other countries do not have Mandatory MediShield etc. chargeable premium from the age of 1 year old.
In case of doubts, just compare the price of the Petrol across the border.
Goes to show that making the numbers low may just be for enticement and illusion and narratives like your soughts but the impacts may be far greater than you think, for example zero income but need to pay thousands of $ is equal to infinity percentage far greater than you think. So, just so that you know, don't try piecemeal comparison because it mar the essence of the author's original comment. By the way, how much did they pay you with all these tangential comments?
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@WumingBoshi-oe9yu3ib7p That is not the point in my comment. But since you raise the subject, Other countries do not have COE, PARF, ARF. Take ARF as an example excluding COE, PARF etc.
The Additional Registration Fee (ARF) percentage for vehicles in Singapore is based on the vehicle's Open Market Value (OMV):
OMV above S$80,000: 320%
OMV above S$60,000 to S$80,000: 250%
OMV above S$40,000 to S$60,000: 190%
Cars and taxis: 100%
Motorcycles: 15%
Commercial vehicles and buses: 5%
Other countries provide their citizens with free education, free medical benefits, free unemployment benefits, free pension etc. Other countries do not have Mandatory MediShield etc. chargeable premium from the age of 1 year old.
In case of doubts, just compare the price of the Petrol across the border.
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Compare with these;
Reference: MOM will resume entry approvals for work pass holders and their dependents with travel history to higher risk countries from 10 Aug. This was announced in the press release by the Ministry of Health on Friday evening (6 Aug).] After that we have mounting deaths, and cases shot up as high as over 3000 cases per day. If you look at the data and the graph from JHU CSSE COVID-19 Data, you can clearly see the peak begin from 20 Sept 21 and "SHARP" peaked on 11 Nov 21with 14 deaths on a 7 days average during that time.
Lawrence Wong said [26 Jul 2021 in Parliament] - “As we do so, we must expect cases to rise, partly because there is still on going critic transmission in our communities which can easily breakout into new cluster with an increase activity level. Also, as we open our border for people to travel without SHN, we will see more imported cases and infected person slipping through from time to time, but at that stage as you heard just now, [OUR MAIN FOCUS WILL NO LONGER BE ON DAILY CASES] numbers because the vast majority by then would have been vaccinated and even if they catch the virus, they are much less likely to become very ill.” [ Note: Capitalized Words ]
Lawrence Wong said [4 May 2021] in defending the imports – “We knew that there would be leaks from time to time. We know that these Risk could happen”. Would you doubt that he put the citizens and the nation to “RISK” because as early as April 2021, Singapore sequencing reveals the highly contagious Delta COVID-19 variant was already spreading in Singapore?
And during that time, not many Singaporeans were even vaccinated.
To make the matter even worse. MOM will resume entry approvals for work pass holders and their dependents with travel history to higher risk countries from 10 Aug. This was announced in the press release by the Ministry of Health on Friday evening (6 Aug). And LW said the virus would leak into the communities from time to time, so they knew.
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Is nothing more than a responded Survey from 27,374 households AND this may likely not be applicable to you. Ask yourself if you have participated or been invited?
Question is : From the pool of responded richer, they ought to be low, median and higher still able to be sorted out within the pool, right?
Here is the Snippet;
Quote;
"The data are based on the sample of households surveyed in the June Comprehensive
Labour Force Surveys conducted by the Ministry of Manpower every year, except for
2000, 2005, 2010 and 2020 which are based on the Censuses of Population and the middecade General Household Surveys. The income estimates are based on income as
reported by survey respondents and augmented with administrative data. Survey
estimates are subject to sampling variability.
Of the 33,000 housing units selected in the sample for the June Comprehensive Labour
Force Survey 2024, some 1,506 households were excluded from the survey as they were
unoccupied, non-residential or demolished. A total of 27,374 households responded to
the survey, achieving an overall response rate of 86.9%." UnQuote;
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If the token is not even reliable and accurate to perform its contact tracing function 100% in view of life safety, then the requirement is as good as silly requirement wasting tax payers at least $50M dollars, which means it could be a very irresponsible and dangerous act. Giving a false sense of security and excuse to rush to Phase 3 at people expenses or what?
What most People didn’t know is the token only sense at 5 minutes interval.
Read what the GovTech Officer said [save a copy before its deleted away]
https://opengovasia.com/government-technology-agency-awards-tender-for-further-batches-of-tracetogether-tokens/
I posted this on Gov Youtube page long time ago without a reply and subsequently it was secretly deleted. I repost it here about the “Reliability Problem” which remains unanswered till today.
[The minister Vivian Balakrishnan emphasized the need on speed of entry or proximity registration as Singapore is progressively opening up for conferences and business-related events. He said of the need of Levels of granularity and to enhance the level of protection for the people concerned. [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPDp9UBazs0 %5D
But the minister ought to know or failed to inform the public on the “Reliability” of the token used for the protection of lives, as he put it, providing the level of protection of its citizens concerned.
I am of the opinion that it would be a crime if the token is proven to be unreliable since no Characterization and tests results have been shown, particularly as the minister put it, in the context of mass gatherings and crowd related events.
My points are transient proximity [virus contact], mobility of individuals and token Bluetooth transmission data collision [even with spread spectrum or frequency hopping technology] preventing those proximities and contacts from detection or recording within the transient periods.
I would refer the minister to the published paper “Analytical and Experimental Performance Evaluation of BLE NeighborDiscovery Process Including Non-Idealities of Real Chipsets” by [David Perez-Diaz de Cerio, Ángela Hernández, Jose Luis Valenzuela, and Antonio Valdovinos]
Without delving into the technicalities, Table 6, therein, provided an example of the Probability (in %) that not all of the devices [200] are detected in the Active Detection Window of 5 seconds example, for a transmission interval of 500ms, the loss detection could be as high as 19.69%. Now, it must be borne in mind that the detection window used in the Table 6 is 5 seconds. Therefore, in comparison with the “Tracetogether” token implementation of 5 minutes interval [extracted from Government technology Officer], the Probability of non-detected devices would soar to unimaginable and dangerously sky-high percentage.
I am hoping that the Minister will realize the matter in increased “Levels of granularity” and place importance on “Reliability” especially with citizens safety is of concerned here. I am proposing that the “Tracetogether” token be put to a mass gathering Characterization and test [the size of 340 tokens within proximity range in 18.6 seconds contact transient] carried out by impartial and neutral parties like NUS or NTU before mass distribution and implementation [mandatory?] to the public. I am against wasting time and tax payer money and polluting the earth of expended batteries and giving its citizen a “false sense of safety/security” [as the PM had put it on the donning of mask]
Thank you.
Next up, my Circle of 50m Characterisation Test Plan.
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What is the difference between a committee of Inquiry and the commission of Inquiry?
"Commission of Inquiry Act" is called by the President under the INQUIRIES ACT 2007 whereas An Independent Review Committee, on the other hand, is similar to your annual dinner & dance (D&D) organising committee in a way - you can't use the law to 'force' anyone to do anything.
Here are the inquiry powers of a COI from the Inquiries Act ( highlighted some points noteworthy):
(2) For the purposes of conducting an inquiry under this Act, the inquiry body shall have powers to —
(a) procure and receive all such evidence, written or oral, as the inquiry body may think it necessary or desirable to procure;
(b) examine all such persons as witnesses as the inquiry body may think it necessary or desirable to examine, and determine the order in which those witnesses shall be examined;
(c) require the evidence (whether written or oral) of any witness to be made on oath or affirmation (such oath or affirmation to be that which could be required of the witness if he were giving evidence in a court) or by statutory declaration;
(d) summon any person in Singapore to attend any meeting of the inquiry body to do all or any of the following:
(i) give evidence;
(ii)produce any document, record or other thing in his custody or under his control;
(e) issue a warrant of arrest to compel the attendance of any person who, after having been summoned to attend, fails to do so, and does not excuse such failure to the satisfaction of the inquiry body, and order him to pay all costs which may have been occasioned in compelling his attendance or by reason of his refusal to obey the summons; and
(f) require a witness to execute a bond binding himself to attend when called upon before the inquiry body to give evidence.
As you can see from the above, a COI is pretty powerful in getting answers.
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Comparing with who they brought to discuss with Xi in China example Volkswagen, Wacker, Siemens, BASF, Merck, Adidas, Hipp, BioNtech, Deutsche bank, then it would appear, in my opinion that nothing meaningful and substantial was accomplished. I'll take it as a visit come press conference.
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From Prof Leo [Executive Director NCID];
"Basically, we do not know ten years, twenty years down the line. Which strategy gives you the best, we don't know, and I think the important thing to know is that we do know how the covit19 virus can damage the body, and the effect can be long lasting, although we don't see it, so we don't know the price that you pay, the immediate price versus the longer-term price."
From Prof Hsu;
"6 to 7 death everyday, is that the number we might be willing to accept in Singapore?"
"bleeding in the brain, they were not pick up in the clinical trial, the signal was not strong enough and only when you vaccinate millions of people that this thing started to show up, this adverse effect started to show up, so I think for children is a very difficult question because if the same vaccination show the same rate of Myocarditis as for young adults, then the risk benefit is completely......it will really be unacceptable for children to be vaccinated".
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'Sooner or later, many of us will end up catching' COVID: Lawrence Wong
Many people in Singapore will end up catching COVID-19, and there is no need to be fearful or embarrassed about it, said COVID multi-ministry taskforce (MTF) co-chair Lawrence Wong.
but we will have zero or mild symptoms (and) recover from home after a few days". Ninety-eight per cent, Wong said, of the cases in Singapore will experience zero or mild symptoms.
My Question: How do you rest your children future with any 3G/4G who are bent on telling pin-hole truth? I mean, He should lead the way and walk the talk or have his family added to the counts and live to tell us "how painless" it is.
Especially when the real expert said this;
From Prof Leo [Executive Director NCID];
"Basically, we do not know ten years, twenty years down the line. Which strategy gives you the best, we don't know, and I think the important thing to know is that we do know how the covit19 virus can damage the body, and the effect can be long lasting, although we don't see it, so we don't know the price that you pay, the immediate price versus the longer-term price."
From Prof Hsu;
"6 to 7 death everyday, is that the number we might be willing to accept in Singapore?"
"bleeding in the brain, they were not pick up in the clinical trial, the signal was not strong enough and only when you vaccinate millions of people that this thing started to show up, this adverse effect started to show up, so I think for children is a very difficult question because if the same vaccination show the same rate of Myocarditis as for young adults, then the risk benefit is completely......it will really be unacceptable for children to be vaccinated".
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Is that the PAPi you have voted? Listen to what Lawrence Wong said in Parliament;
Lawrence Wong said [26 Jul 2021 in Parliament] - “As we do so, we must expect cases to rise, partly because there is still on going critic transmission in our communities which can easily breakout into new cluster with an increase activity level. Also, as we open our border for people to travel without SHN, we will see more imported cases and infected person slipping through from time to time, but at that stage as you heard just now, our main focus will no longer be on daily cases numbers because the vast majority by then would have been vaccinated and even if they catch the virus, they are much less likely to become very ill.”
https://youtu.be/QYN3aEu8a0c?t=151
Risking your lives and our families safety for the imports to benefits the rich, is it worth it?. Who give them the permission to gamble our lives away with non BLA approved Trial Drugs. It's a gamble because there is no credibility to any of such narratives without comprehensive long terms health damage data to support it. Furthermore, some of the vaccinated still died. According to CDC, there were 1063 death in 5492 vaccine breakthrough cases [vaccinated but still infected cases] example 19% of death were amongst those vaccinated and infected. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html
Everyone should really think about it come 2025 how to move forward. Apparently, the Worse is, the intention to not report [suppressed] the rising infection numbers anymore. Is that the PAPi you have voted?
Lawrence Wong also said [4 May 2021] in defend of the imports – “We knew that there will be leak from time to time. We know that these Risk could happen”. Would you doubt that he put the citizens and the nation to “RISK” because as early as April 2021, Singapore sequencing reveals the highly contagious Delta COVID-19 variant were already spreading in Singapore?
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Listen to what Lawrence Wong said in Parliament;
Lawrence Wong said [26 Jul 2021 in Parliament] - “As we do so, we must expect cases to rise, partly because there is still on going critic transmission in our communities which can easily breakout into new cluster with an increase activity level. Also, as we open our border for people to travel without SHN, we will see more imported cases and infected person slipping through from time to time, but at that stage as you heard just now, our main focus will no longer be on daily cases numbers because the vast majority by then would have been vaccinated and even if they catch the virus, they are much less likely to become very ill.”
https://youtu.be/QYN3aEu8a0c?t=151
Risking your lives and our families safety for the imports to benefits the rich, is it worth it?. Who give them the permission to gamble our lives away with non BLA approved Trial Drugs. It's a gamble because there is no credibility to any of such narratives without comprehensive long terms health damage data to support it. Everyone should really think about it come 2025 how to move forward. Worse, true numbers will not even be reported, the word should be "suppressed".
Lawrence Wong also said [4 May 2021] in defend of the imports – “We knew that there will be leak from time to time. We know that these Risk could happen”. Would you doubt that he put the citizens and the nation to “RISK” because as early as April 2021, Singapore sequencing reveals the highly contagious Delta COVID-19 variant were already spreading in Singapore?
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"Commission of Inquiry Act" is called by the President under the INQUIRIES ACT 2007 whereas An Independent Review Committee, on the other hand, is similar to your annual dinner & dance (D&D) organising committee in a way - you can't use the law to 'force' anyone to do anything.
Here are the inquiry powers of a COI from the Inquiries Act ( highlighted some points noteworthy):
(2) For the purposes of conducting an inquiry under this Act, the inquiry body shall have powers to —
(a) procure and receive all such evidence, written or oral, as the inquiry body may think it necessary or desirable to procure;
(b) examine all such persons as witnesses as the inquiry body may think it necessary or desirable to examine, and determine the order in which those witnesses shall be examined;
(c) require the evidence (whether written or oral) of any witness to be made on oath or affirmation (such oath or affirmation to be that which could be required of the witness if he were giving evidence in a court) or by statutory declaration;
(d) summon any person in Singapore to attend any meeting of the inquiry body to do all or any of the following:
(i) give evidence;
(ii)produce any document, record or other thing in his custody or under his control;
(e) issue a warrant of arrest to compel the attendance of any person who, after having been summoned to attend, fails to do so, and does not excuse such failure to the satisfaction of the inquiry body, and order him to pay all costs which may have been occasioned in compelling his attendance or by reason of his refusal to obey the summons; and
(f) require a witness to execute a bond binding himself to attend when called upon before the inquiry body to give evidence.
As you can see from the above, a COI is pretty powerful in getting answers.
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Is that the PAPi you have voted? Listen to what Lawrence Wong said in Parliament;
Lawrence Wong said [26 Jul 2021 in Parliament] - “As we do so, we must expect cases to rise, partly because there is still on going critic transmission in our communities which can easily breakout into new cluster with an increase activity level. Also, as we open our border for people to travel without SHN, we will see more imported cases and infected person slipping through from time to time, but at that stage as you heard just now, our main focus will no longer be on daily cases numbers because the vast majority by then would have been vaccinated and even if they catch the virus, they are much less likely to become very ill.”
https://youtu.be/QYN3aEu8a0c?t=151
Risking your lives and our families safety for the imports to benefits the rich, is it worth it?. Who give them the permission to gamble our lives away with non BLA approved Trial Drugs. It's a gamble because there is no credibility to any of such narratives without comprehensive long terms health damage data to support it. Everyone should really think about it come 2025 how to move forward. Worse, true numbers will not even be reported, the word should be "suppressed".
Lawrence Wong also said [4 May 2021] in defend of the imports – “We knew that there will be leak from time to time. We know that these Risk could happen”. Would you doubt that he put the citizens and the nation to “RISK” because as early as April 2021, Singapore sequencing reveals the highly contagious Delta COVID-19 variant were already spreading in Singapore?
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"Commission of Inquiry Act" is called by the President under the INQUIRIES ACT 2007 whereas An Independent Review Committee, on the other hand, is similar to your annual dinner & dance (D&D) organising committee in a way - you can't use the law to 'force' anyone to do anything.
Here are the inquiry powers of a COI from the Inquiries Act ( highlighted some points noteworthy):
(2) For the purposes of conducting an inquiry under this Act, the inquiry body shall have powers to —
(a) procure and receive all such evidence, written or oral, as the inquiry body may think it necessary or desirable to procure;
(b) examine all such persons as witnesses as the inquiry body may think it necessary or desirable to examine, and determine the order in which those witnesses shall be examined;
(c) require the evidence (whether written or oral) of any witness to be made on oath or affirmation (such oath or affirmation to be that which could be required of the witness if he were giving evidence in a court) or by statutory declaration;
(d) summon any person in Singapore to attend any meeting of the inquiry body to do all or any of the following:
(i) give evidence;
(ii)produce any document, record or other thing in his custody or under his control;
(e) issue a warrant of arrest to compel the attendance of any person who, after having been summoned to attend, fails to do so, and does not excuse such failure to the satisfaction of the inquiry body, and order him to pay all costs which may have been occasioned in compelling his attendance or by reason of his refusal to obey the summons; and
(f) require a witness to execute a bond binding himself to attend when called upon before the inquiry body to give evidence.
As you can see from the above, a COI is pretty powerful in getting answers.
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So, just who is not telling the truth in its entirety?
LW said "sooner or later, many of us will end up catching the virus, but we will have zero or mild symptoms (and) recover from home after a few days".
From Prof Leo [Executive Director NCID];
"Basically, we do not know ten years, twenty years down the line. Which strategy gives you the best, we don't know, and I think the important thing to know is that we do know how the covit19 virus can damage the body, and the effect can be long lasting although we don't see it, so we don't know the price that you pay, the immediate price versus the longer-term price."
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@brmin7312 In essence it’s like Selling Singaporeans Livelihoods for the rich, elite and business survival. As it continues, everyone will be affected sooner or later. Everyone should think about it in 2025 the way moving forward.
If you read the 2013 PM Lee May day Rally Speech, the answers are all there;
Quote: “…..very careful as we tighten up. Because business costs will go up, it will become harder for companies to operate here, our competitiveness can be affected, our cost of living can be affected. Because wages go up, costs go up, prices will follow. And we have to make sure we watch our competitiveness, and we do not overdo things. Likewise when we tighten up on PMETs; we have to adjust, we need to, we need to introduce safeguards for Singaporean PMETs. But if we make it too difficult for companies to get the skills and talent which they need here, they will go elsewhere. And I think that would be disastrous for our PMETs, for our workers, for our families and for Singapore. We have to stay an attractive place to do business.” UnQuote
If you digest the statements and remove all the padding-in excuses, it essentially could be read as;
“To allow in Cheap Foreign Labours and Cheap PMETs to sustain the Businesses in Singapore or they will go somewhere else.
Singapore is in Survival mode or in the ICU, so to speak. So those Excuses of Not having Enough PMETs, No Talents, No Skills are all but mere excuses;
1. To shift the blames to Singaporeans
2. To hide the truths away from Singaporeans that the PAPi is incapable to improving the lives of all Singaporeans and made sacrifices at Singaporeans expense for Elite Businesses to Run.
So, 8 years have passed and PAPi continues to be out of ideas to better run the country but appeared to allow Singaporeans to be displaced, out of jobs for them to run their Businesses and continue to collect their taxes and collect their World Highest Salaries? I think is No Shame Whatsoever while Singaporeans are going through all the hardships?
Can you accept to be forced to accept foreigners to your home lunch table eating your food and after expelling the most denigrating remarks on you and your family after the food?
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Marc Chin Also what you have written about nautical miles, EEZ, I have already written it 3 days ago in my other comment. Read.
As the old saying goes, empty vessel makes the most noise.
I'll re-paste it here for other readers' convenience;
3 days ago I wrote;
Taiwan Strait, which is roughly 96 nautical miles at its widest and 70 nautical miles at its narrowest, is codified in two domestic laws adopted in 1992 and 1998. This claim includes a 12-nautical-mile territorial sea and a 200-nautical-mile EEZ from the baselines of both the Chinese mainland and Taiwan, which means that there is no high-seas corridor through the strait. Fishing, polluting, weapons practice, and spying are not "innocent passage", and submarines and other underwater vehicles are required to navigate on the surface and to show their flag. And such passage is subjected to the obligation to pay ‘due regard’ to the rights and duties of the coastal state (Article 58(3)). China is correct that the term ‘international waters’ does not appear in UNCLOS. The term "international water" is NOT defined in UNCLOS. Also the US did not sign the UNCLOS convention. The United States recognizes the PRC as the sole legal government of China and acknowledges that Taiwan is part of China.
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@onytfromyt GST is a recursively tax system unlike the VAT. A 1% increase could see a 60 cents increase in a nominal $3.30 bread, which work out to be 18% increase.
Just look at the price of one outlet now, Laksa $10, prawn noodle soup $10.70, mee siam $9.70, mee rebus $9.70 etc.
I thought mee rebus was the usual $2?. Contrary to the GST Tax, the VAT Tax is the amount of VAT the user pays is based on the cost of the product minus any costs of materials in the product that have already been taxed at a previous stage, from production to the point of sales. GST Tax could repeat the tax from production to the point of sales from raw materials, ingredients, rental cost, electricity, transports etc example multiplying effect type tax.
There are 2 types of inflation. Inflation caused by "external factors" and Inflation cause by "GST Tax and the Carbon Tax". I hope Singaporeans can be informed. If you are in doubts, just compare with prices across the crossway.
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@brmin7312 A subject of "National Importance" versus a tussle between 2 businessmen, the case which has been long resolved? You are apparently avoiding to answer the important and pertinent question and all Singaporeans can easily see just how insincere and despicable you are in apparently trying to discredit, Character Assassinate a Potential Good Candidate. Like I said;
Incrimination, Character Assassination, Casting aspersion onto Political Opponents, We have seen many over the years. But like the Workers Party who had won the Seng Kang GRCs, the case against them automatically receded and disappeared into thin air. And the Party is apparently running the town council very well despite wild claims that they are not able to manage. I would say, the more they tried upon the Opponents, the more Worthy and Capable these Opponents are to serve to Improve Singapore for the Benefits of Everyone and not just the Rich and Powerful. Go read the PV manifesto.
In any Case, Balance Up to induce Healthy Competition can only result in the Best of the *Real Talented in Parliament serving the People and the Country.
I was a die-hard PAPi but I think I am wrong.
Single Party Mandate has shown to be unwise judging from the imports and the leaks into the communities. These are admitted FACTS.
The unsurmountable disruption and losses to Singaporeans are simply unspeakable, not to mention the lost of innocent lives.
So you were talking about leaders? Before you are justified an answer, answer and clarify the below statement first which is of "NATIONAL IMPORTANCE", convince readers and without falsehoods.
Singapore ramping up vaccine manufacturing capacity – LHL [CNA 5jun2020 before Election].
How do you intend to equate if you avoid to answer?
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@xeenslayer Where the $584 psf came from? Answer: Based on CNN table in the CNN news the other day.
Bank loan used as example because there are lesser restriction. Read the other news on contemporary rates hike. A bank loan can be better or worse. It's usually better. In any case SIBOR/SOR rates.
5% was based on comtemporary estimation.
Given, even if we use your rate, it turns out to be $773,249 OR over 3/4 of a $million dollars for a 99 years lease apartment and here’s the kicker, you’ll keep being charged accrued interest even after you’ve fully paid back your loan, because technically you still ‘owe’ money to your CPF-OA account!
There are voices raised so Whether is "easy or affordable" or not is NOT, I repeat, "IS NOT" for you to say as it depends on the household’s income of the individuals and whether there are left over for other necessities like food, transportation, and health care, children, elderly, saving for retirement etc...
But according to a reliable survey some time ago: 2 in 3 working Singaporeans do not have savings to last them beyond 6 months. According to CNA News the other day, Credit companies see rise in people applying for personal loans, for daily essential included. Furthermore Someone Said HDB Revert to Zero Value at the end of lease. It means the "Would-Be-Retirement-Saving" all gone or depleted in Value?
The bad news is some households are what economists call “severely cost burdened.”
Well, Singapore is a Representative Democratic.
Singaporeans have choices to make in 2025.
Some people don't like change, but you need to embrace change if the alternative is disaster. [ElonMust]
Time to help ourselves in 2025.
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Listen to what Lawrence Wong said in Parliament;
Lawrence Wong said [26 Jul 2021 in Parliament] - “As we do so, we must expect cases to rise, partly because there is still on going critic transmission in our communities which can easily breakout into new cluster with an increase activity level. Also, as we open our border for people to travel without SHN, we will see more imported cases and infected person slipping through from time to time, but at that stage as you heard just now, our main focus will no longer be on daily cases numbers because the vast majority by then would have been vaccinated and even if they catch the virus, they are much less likely to become very ill.”
https://youtu.be/QYN3aEu8a0c?t=151
Risking your lives and our families safety for the imports to benefits the rich, is it worth it?. Who give them the permission to gamble our lives away with non BLA approved Trial Drugs. It's a gamble because there is no credibility to any of such narratives without comprehensive long terms health damage data to support it. Everyone should really think about it come 2025 how to move forward. Worse, true numbers will not even be reported, the word should be "suppressed".
Lawrence Wong also said [4 May 2021] in defend of the imports – “We knew that there will be leak from time to time. We know that these Risk could happen”. Would you doubt that he put the citizens and the nation to “RISK” because as early as April 2021, Singapore sequencing reveals the highly contagious Delta COVID-19 variant were already spreading in Singapore?
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Is that the PAPi you have voted? Listen to what Lawrence Wong said in Parliament;
Lawrence Wong said [26 Jul 2021 in Parliament] - “As we do so, we must expect cases to rise, partly because there is still on going critic transmission in our communities which can easily breakout into new cluster with an increase activity level. Also, as we open our border for people to travel without SHN, we will see more imported cases and infected person slipping through from time to time, but at that stage as you heard just now, our main focus will no longer be on daily cases numbers because the vast majority by then would have been vaccinated and even if they catch the virus, they are much less likely to become very ill.”
https://youtu.be/QYN3aEu8a0c?t=151
Risking your lives and our families safety for the imports to benefits the rich, is it worth it?. Who give them the permission to gamble our lives away with non BLA approved Trial Drugs. It's a gamble because there is no credibility to any of such narratives without comprehensive long terms health damage data to support it. Everyone should really think about it come 2025 how to move forward. Worse, true numbers will not even be reported, the word should be "suppressed".
Lawrence Wong also said [4 May 2021] in defend of the imports – “We knew that there will be leak from time to time. We know that these Risk could happen”. Would you doubt that he put the citizens and the nation to “RISK” because as early as April 2021, Singapore sequencing reveals the highly contagious Delta COVID-19 variant were already spreading in Singapore?
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@sgfuture7114 Educated Singaporeans can easily see through the fallacies and understood "Personal Consumption Expenditures" in making comparison especially the HIGH COST OF LIVING, high regressive GST and taxes, COE, ERP, expensive housing, PARF, ARF, carbon tax, CECA etc and with little or NO social benefits to the citizens unlike some other countries, FREE EDUCATION, FREE MEDICAL CARE, UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS AMONGST SO MANY OTHERS BENEFITS. These FACTs are further substantiated with the followings truths; 2 in 3 working Singaporeans do not have savings to last them beyond 6 months: [Ref from a renowned survey]. Poll results show nearly 50% of high-income earners in Singapore face money issues [SJP Asia Survey].
Some people don't like change, but you need to embrace change if the alternative is disaster. [ElonMust]
Time to help ourselves in 2025.
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@brmin7312 Please do not intentionally digress from the subject of poor performing MTF and do not continue your stupidity as nobody ever ask Singapore to close its border "forever" to purposely strew the issue out of proportion. Do you know how much Households, Individuals and Private Companies are losing from the uncurbed Virus-leak into the communities? Do you know the cost of a Human Life?
In any case, such a small country cannot even control and contain the virus properly and you want to compare to those bigger giant? Nevertheless since you asked;
Japan GDP is 13.48510911 times of Singapore
South Korean GDP is 4.356072545 times of Singapore
and even Taiwan GDP is 1.785597906 times of Singapore,
so all of them are doing much better than Singapore.
Furthermore, Educated Singaporeans can easily see through your fallacies and understood "Personal Consumption Expenditures" in making comparison especially the HIGH COST OF LIVING, high GST and taxes with little or NO social benefits to the citizens unlike some other countries, FREE EDUCATION, FREE MEDICAL CARE, UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS AMONGST SO MANY OTHERS BENEFITS.
These FACTs are further substantiated with the followings truths;
2 in 3 working Singaporeans do not have savings to last them beyond 6 months: OCBC survey.
Poll results show nearly 50% of high-income earners in Singapore face money issues [SJP Asia Survey]
Singapore ramping up vaccine manufacturing capacity – LHL [CNA 5jun2020 before Election.
Singaporeans at large are ZERO TOLERANCE to ANY LEAKAGE OF THE COVIT-19 VIRUS into the communities, "knowingly uncurbed".
Let's recall what Lawrence Wong said;
Lawrence Wong said [26 Jul 2021 in Parliament] - “As we do so, we must expect cases to rise, partly because there is still on going critic transmission in our communities which can easily breakout into new cluster with an increase activity level. Also, as we open our border for people to travel without SHN, we will see more imported cases and infected person slipping through from time to time, but at that stage as you heard just now, our main focus will no longer be on daily cases numbers because the vast majority by then would have been vaccinated and even if they catch the virus, they are much less likely to become very ill.” https://youtu.be/QYN3aEu8a0c?t=151
Lawrence Wong also said [4 May 2021] in defend of the imports – “We knew that there will be leak from time to time. We know that these Risk could happen”. Would you doubt that he put the citizens and the nation to “RISK” because as early as April 2021, Singapore sequencing reveals the highly contagious Delta COVID-19 variant were already spreading in Singapore?
So the Questions;
1. When he defended the imports in May, have they forsaken those who are yet to be vaccinated or for valid reasons cannot be vaccinated?
2. From May Until July, are there any tangible improvement, from his statement in May?
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@limlisa Educated Singaporeans can easily see through the fallacies and understood "Personal Consumption Expenditures" in making comparison especially the HIGH COST OF LIVING, high regressive GST and taxes, COE, ERP, expensive housing, PARF, ARF, carbon tax, CECA etc and with little or NO social benefits to the citizens unlike some other countries, FREE EDUCATION, FREE MEDICAL CARE, UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS AMONGST SO MANY OTHERS BENEFITS. These FACTs are further substantiated with the followings truths; 2 in 3 working Singaporeans do not have savings to last them beyond 6 months: [Ref from a renowned survey]. Poll results show nearly 50% of high-income earners in Singapore face money issues [SJP Asia Survey].
Some people don't like change, but you need to embrace change if the alternative is disaster. [ElonMust]
Time to help ourselves in 2025.
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Parliament - "I don't Know", SCDF - Don't call [only about to Up lorry cases then can call?], Home Recovery, Relegation to make shift, own self hail a taxi, with blood dripping, self bandage, until you reach hospital or what? These days, public services are about like that and "ATAS" likely follows PAP footsteps, resulting citizens short-changed. AND EXPENSIVE one night in hospital easily $1,500, medishield claim $0 dollar [they call it deductibles].
In short - Life-Threatening? by whose definition? PAP?
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@tskuan32 I know because otherwise they would have qualified with the Standards or Code of Compliance for AI implementation. Pattern Matching, Camera capturing human/Object movement, missile tracking is NOT strictly speaking AI. Otherwise have you read their specs or tell me their published international papers. Like I say, my GPS then can be called the Super AI GPS with multi billions computation and floating points analysis including permutations of the nearest route, avoidance, peak hours etc. I can say, the "classification of defects, types of defects, what appear to be defects, what are suspicious of defects" are pre-programmed and final decisions are still by human. AI being "intelligence" will create the classification itself, not based on human pre-programmed classification/categories. [Add: My GPS also need not base on pre-programmed because it will also remember places I visited example Storage. for later easy access and auto route.]
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"Commission of Inquiry Act" is called by the President under the INQUIRIES ACT 2007 whereas An Independent Review Committee, on the other hand, is similar to your annual dinner & dance (D&D) organising committee in a way - you can't use the law to 'force' anyone to do anything.
Here are the inquiry powers of a COI from the Inquiries Act ( highlighted some points noteworthy):
(2) For the purposes of conducting an inquiry under this Act, the inquiry body shall have powers to —
(a) procure and receive all such evidence, written or oral, as the inquiry body may think it necessary or desirable to procure;
(b) examine all such persons as witnesses as the inquiry body may think it necessary or desirable to examine, and determine the order in which those witnesses shall be examined;
(c) require the evidence (whether written or oral) of any witness to be made on oath or affirmation (such oath or affirmation to be that which could be required of the witness if he were giving evidence in a court) or by statutory declaration;
(d) summon any person in Singapore to attend any meeting of the inquiry body to do all or any of the following:
(i) give evidence;
(ii)produce any document, record or other thing in his custody or under his control;
(e) issue a warrant of arrest to compel the attendance of any person who, after having been summoned to attend, fails to do so, and does not excuse such failure to the satisfaction of the inquiry body, and order him to pay all costs which may have been occasioned in compelling his attendance or by reason of his refusal to obey the summons; and
(f) require a witness to execute a bond binding himself to attend when called upon before the inquiry body to give evidence.
As you can see from the above, a COI is pretty powerful in getting answers.
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GE2015: PM Lee launches PAP slogan "with you, for you, for Singapore', and manifesto [Ref: ST Updated Jan 19, 2016, 02:26 PM]
BUT;
So as it seems, it can be read as Benefits, jobs, and money to Foreigners - give with you, give for you, give for Singapore and those at *prime career age [30s or 40s] no need to serve National Service as replied in Parliament. whereas Singaporeans even have to do reservist.
Furthermore;
Stand firm against nativism: SM Lee [Ref: ST UPDATED Jan 12, 2025, 08:48 AM]
These days, it's getting harder and harder to Trust "Anything" PAP.
[*Ref: Parliamentary Statements | 02 Aug 2022]
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