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Comments by "Alexander Sylchuk" (@sshko101) on "China’s Coming EV Battery Waste Problem" video.
I actually wonder how all that legislation is going to work in real world. Especially with all these joint ventures spurring arround the world. There is already such company created for assembly of chinese buses at my local bus assembly factory here in Ukraine. My concern is whether we will be able to at least send those cells (and other electronic modules) back to the factory of origin (for further processing) or it will all just end in our local landfill after 10 years of use. My city is near EU border and target market might be EU as well, but I'm pretty sure that from their perspective main concern would be to send waste to the bus factory and only then our factory would have to do the rest. I only know that we don't have any strategy or policy on e-waste or ev-waste or any other proper recycling program yet. On top of that our local government isn't very famous for being transparent or eco-friendly and this also refers to maybe all latin american countries and all the rest of developing world.
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@raul0ca But what about lead sulfite deposits on electrodes and further cracking of plates? They have to at least melt old lead material and remould it back into new plates.
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@raul0ca I think that surface area is key factor. By making the plates thicker it will only make them less brittle and all. It will not make any (maybe minimal) improvement in terms of service life. The main issue of lead acid batteries is build up of lead sulfite crystals which prevent further chemical reactions during charge/discharge processes.
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@solaroid4442 Easy sure, but what about recycling of lead contaminated plastics. Plastics aren't very profitable to recycle to begin with, especially without government incentives. US has already proven it's inability to treat supposedly clean plastics, especially after China closed it's borders for foreign waste. Lead acid batteries must already fall under "extended producer responsibility" legislation and in case if they were produced in China they will be shipped back home after end of their life. In the US statistics they would be registered as already recycled. In reality it might be that most of american supposedly recycled batteries end up in chinese landfills. It was already mentioned in this video that in china the most common practice is to recycle lead and throw away contaminated plasticks and electrolyte. My main point is that we haven't yet solved easier problem but already pretend that it's all good and that with such attitude nothing bad will happen in the future.
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But they do impose fire hazard and, depending on chemistry, explosion hazard as well.
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