Comments by "John Adam" (@johnadam2885) on "Channel 4 News"
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'Nationalistic military units such as Azov, Aidar, and The Right Sector where armed and integrated into military or national guard AFTER annexation of Crimea by Russia in 2014.
Poroshenko, who later campaigned on the slogans of "Army. Language. Faith." was elected President of Ukraine AFTER the annexation of Crimea by Russia in 2014.
The law that more strictly mandates the use of Ukrainian language instead of Russian in official settings, was passed in parliament AFTER annexation of Crimea by Russia in 2014.'
You are missing out a key detail: Russia annexed Crimea only in the aftermath of the so called 'Revolution of Dignity'. They saw that the Russophobes had taken over with American support, and they would push for NATO entry. Russia had to act quickly and secure Crimea as it has Sevasatpol, the HQ of Russia's Black Sea fleet. If they did not do this, the US Seventh Fleet would be sailing from there one day.
You are very anxious to exonerate the US. US ambassador Victoria Nuland had for years funded anti-Russian groups as the part of creating a pro-US govt. in Kiev. In 2008, when Merkel and Sarkozy opposed induction of Ukraine into NATO, fearing it would lead to war, the US twisted their arms. Nuland had remarked 'F..k the EU'. Nuland and McCain were in the Maidan square celebrating the 2014 coup. What were they doing there ? They are deciding who will rule Ukraine - to their benefit, and not for Ukranian benefit.
Since 2014, Ukraine had become a de facto NATO member. It had a NATO training base near Lvov. Ukraine sent 5000 troops to Afghanistan (why ?)
The US has used similar tactics in Afghanistan, Iraq etc. (supporting and inciting one group against the other). Either it leads to civil war, or the intervention of another powerful country. But that country goes down the drain.
Hence, once the anti-Russian coup had taken place, and the American hand was clear (even though it is not clear to you), Russia had to act immediately and take Crimea to preserve the HQ of the the Black Sea fleet.
Since then, Ukraine did the further anti-Russian things you mentioned - which only made things worse for Ukraine. It made Russia to think of taking back all of Ukraine. Now you will find the west that supported you does not have the courage to come and fight Russia and you will be sacrificed.
Russia gave Ukraine independence, it was a generous act. All that Ukraine has was built by the Soviet Union. But Ukranians became back stabbers, and fell for the lure of American money, and thought they could gain by renting out their land to America to put missile and naval bases against Russia. But now you you are paying for back- stabbing Russia. Russia has put an end to Ukraine's and US's NATO plans. Ukraine sent 5000 troops to Afghanistan to die for Americans, but the Americans are not going to come and die for you.
Ukraine as an independent nation is over, as you blew your chances by being seduced by America to take a strident stance against your neighbour. You don't even understand that, so how can you be a successful nation ?
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@Concord003 Ukraine had the best chance if it had been in the EU but not NATO. That was acceptable to Russia. Ukraine has blown its chances by inciting Russophobia, following neo Nazis and their brand of Ukranian nationalism, and thinking it could indulge in these due to western protection. Now you find the limits of western protection : they don't want to die, they cannot fight against Russia and win.
Showing enimity to Russia to get western support was an immature foreign policy. The consequence is Ukraine has lost its independence. You only get a chance once in life and you blew it. Of course, the US is to blame for seducing Ukranians with money to promote Russophobia and seek NATO entrance. But ultimately Ukranians are to blame for lacking the thinking capacity.
'I still hope it's possible for Ukraine to win, but I have to be open to the possibility that we may lose.'
Ukraine and the west have been spreading great hopes about these HIMARs and the Ukranian counter offensive against Kherson with a million man army. If that does not happen, then consider it is game over. In that case, it is better to cede the land that is taken, and assure neutrality and stop all NATO contacts, in exchange for the Ukraine that survives. Go for the EU, Putin said he does not object. The other alternative is to fight on, but then face the possibility the Russian army will enter Kiev, just like the Red Army came to Berlin after 4 years of fighting. You should know that the Russians once they fight, do not give up. You were in the Red Army once.
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All this talk about Europe being able to generate an arms industry to confront Russia is vain, wishful thinking. Europe does not have the energy (Russia provided it), the cost of production is too high to make arms or anything else. Europe is importing 155 mm shells - from Pakistan, where factories are running on a 24 hour basis. European costs are too high, even 155 mm shells have to be outsourced. The chance of Europe making hypersonic missiles etc. with its shrinking economies and populations is negligible.
In the European continent, there used to be 4 powers : Russia, Britain, France and Germany. Now there is only Russia : a superpower no less. Britain, France and Germany are such spent forces that the Europeans look to Estonia for leadership !
The Europeans live next to Russia, they were benefiting from Russian energy, but decided to join America to threaten Russia. Russia defeated them, and America decided to leave without too much loss, leaving the Europeans on a limb. All the idiotic nations of Europe like the Baltics, Poland, Finland etc. who wanted to fight Russia are now cowering in fright. The Swedes and Finns were even boasting about how they strengthened NATO ! Now they have to face Russian might without the US.
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@gnehzeey All that Ukraine has was built by the USSR - the infra structure, power stations, the nuclear reactors, the educational institutions, the railways, the Antonov plane factory, T 72 tank factory. Although the media keeps telling Ukraine is the poorest country in Europe, the people look well dressed and fed, they fleeing with pets, their trains and buildings look good. The USSR rebuilt Ukraine after the devastation the Germans caused - without any Marshall aid. So how dare you say they had nothing ?
Ukraine's independence was conditional on agreeing not to join any military alliance against Russia. Putin said he had no objection to Ukraine joining the EU; that is an economic alliance, not a military alliance.
The Ukranians tried to cheat on the neutrality condition. They tried to join NATO, indulge in Russophobia and they thought they could do this because of NATO shield. They were warned by Russia not to play this dangerous game. Their society bred Ukro Nazis like the Right Sector and Azov batallion. Therefore Russia has revoked Ukraine's independence and take it back. Ukraine cannot be brought back, 20% is taken, and what remains is unviable.
Ukranias achieved something as part of the USSR. In fact, they had rulers - like Khrushchev, Chernenko. When they were given independence, in 30 years they chose policies that made them a failed state. So they would be better off taken back by Russia.
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@abodabalo It is not Ukraine’s free choice to apply for membership.
Under the conditions in which Ukraine became independent, it had to give up nukes and give an assurance to Russia that it would not join any military alliance against Russia. Ukraine's independence declaration said it would be neutral. Otherwise, Russia would not have given independence. Thus, Ukraine's sovereignty was never absolute in this regard. You are speaking like a simpleton. Either you are ignorant of the details above or you are wilfully duplicitous.
After the 2014 coup organised by the US, in which Nazi groups like Right Sector and Azov Batallion took part, Ukraine unilaterally changed its constitution to say NATO entry was a goal. The Ukro Nazi groups spread Russophobia thinking they had infinite American protection. Zelensky said if Russian Ukranians want links with Russia, they should go to Russia - the classic line of fascists.
Even before Ukraine entered NATO, the US was training the Ukranian army in a centre near Lvov, to make them NATO-ready. Why ? Ukraine sent 5000 troops to Afghanistan even though it was not in NATO yet. It was helping Americans kill Afghans who had done no harm to Ukraine. So now when Ukrainians get killed, in the non-west, many would say 'let them get a taste of what they did in Afghanistan'. Zelensky said Israel is the victim and the Palestinians are the aggressors. Hence, Zelensky has no credibility outside the west.
As Ukraine unilaterally reneged on its commitment on neutrality given to Russia at independence, and planned to enter into NATO and allow the US to threaten Russia, Russia has every right to annul Ukraine's independence and take it back so it does not bring in America to threaten Russia.
Ukraine has blown its chance to be an independent state due to American interference and machinations, and the Ukranians' penchant for Nazi style nationalism. The eastern part and the coastal regions are gone, and Russia will make the part that is left an unviable, failed state, where reconstruction is not possible. If the remainder of Ukraine wants to survive, it will have to go back to neutrality AND agree to lose more land. Russia will not agree to anything less now. Such is the price for following Zelensky, Ukro Nazis and America.
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Can Europe stop Putin on its own?
He who threatens or attacks Russia gets defeated. History proves that.
The French were defeated in 1812 by Russia. The French now would not dare send troops for a direct engagement.
The Red Army beat Germany into a pulp in 1945, and made Germans a peaceful people.
The British boast a lot because they won a war in Crimea in 1856, but they would not dare fight a land war against Russia now. Look at Russia's arsenal - a single Sarmat missile will take out Britain. 100 years later, the Soviet Union forced Britain to climb down after the Suez crisis in 1956 when Britain went back to its colonial mischief and invaded Egypt.
In 2025, Russia has defeated the collective west in its wicked plan to put NATO bases in Ukraine to threaten Russia. Ukraine has to cede 20% land at least (and more if it does not agree to neutrality), Ukraine cannot be in NATO, and the US is not going to send peacekeepers, and Russia will not allow Europeans inside Ukraine. This is comprehensive victory enough, but Russia is going to achieve more - end NATO altogether so that the double faced Europeans do not threaten Russia ever !
Russia is a great country and the rest of the world salutes it for defeating the collective west. The collective west invaded and robbed Africa, Latin America, India, China, Arabs....They practised slave trade and apartheid, and they back Israel. Russia helped the South African people fighting to end apartheid. It helped many developing countries.
Europe and the west will not be able to return to the world order they ran for their benefit at the expense of others. That is the magnitude of Russia's achievement.
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@frogashow NATO is not so innocent as you pretend. It invaded Afghanistan and runs around as the US's errand boy. Ukraine sent 5000 troops to Iraq. so it should not complain.
Actually, NATO is a just a tool for American expansion and threats to others. The US sponsored anti-Russian Ukro Nazi groups like Right Sector and Azov Batallion, and overthrew the elected govt. in Kiev in 2014, and implanted a govt. of their choice. This is the model they have used in Latin America, Pakistan - use money and military power to corrupt local governments and create a faction that supports them. The implanted govt. in Kiev wanted to join NATO, reneging on the commitment to neutrality given to Russia at the time of independence. The US desire was to have missile and more important naval bases in Ukraine. Russia took action in the nick of time to avoid US mischief. Putin had said in the interview, it is costly for Russia to take this action, but the cost will be greater later if the US got its way. If Ukraine got into NATO, Russia would have to fight a nuclear war to get remove US.
By intervening at the correct time, it is clear Ukraine cannot join NATO, nor the US have naval bases. Ukraine can keep shouting it is going to join NATO, but Ukraine will not exist in the form of 1991, its a failed state, its time is over. Russia has the upper hand militarily and it is the winning the economic war against the west.
Putin is a master strategist and what he has done is very profound. You do not have the intellect to figure it out. Single handedly, Putin has ended the so called western 'rules based order', and the dollar run international economy, where the rules are formulated by the west, which they impose on others and disregard when they want (like in the invasion of Iraq).
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@jusmeetsingh1907 You are putting on a brave face for the west, Singh.
'The power infrastructure they destroy is being restored immediately.' Ukraine's grid operator has told Ukranians to expect 4-5 hours power cuts. As winter advances, unless they do the cuts, the whole thing will collapse.
'So instead of complaining about these attacks and exaggerating them for propaganda purposes, Zelensky and Ukrainian govt and West are quietly welcoming these drone attacks... '
What are you talking about, Ukraine is begging for anti missile systems, and the west is scratching its head. Otherwise, there will be more refugees.
'....and how they are helping Biden to do regime change in Russia.'
Hmm, is that so ? Look at Italy - Draghi is gone. UK - arch anti-Russian, BoJo gone; Truss is slated to go. After mid-term elections, Biden will be a lame duck; Republicans are questioning blank cheque for Ukraine. I bet you any money Putin will still be there after Truss, Biden and many western leaders are gone.
Putin has got not only the Ukrainian but the European economy by the scruff of the neck. He is de-industrialising Europe. In fact, what has done is profound : he has single handedly ended the western 'world order' for good. China, India, Turkey, Saudi, Iran and the rest of the world is ignoring/defying the west. He has catalysed non-dollar trade and that portends the eventual end of US dominance. The satellite states go down with it.
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@nic7048 The western media was saying Putin was dying due to Parkinson's, cancer etc. They were also saying there will be a coup. Now, they recognise that was wishful thinking. So what you are saying is old wishes. As for Russia being poor by 2030, Europe is going to be poor immediately by this winter, and Ukraine'e economy is strangled, so what are you talking about ? Nobody in Russia will be freezing, its industry will have power - unlike Europe.
Russia has land, water, food (biggest wheat supplier), energy, metals, industry and strong armament industry (missiles + nukes). How many countries have all of these ? Hardly, any.
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@putinmustenduplikegaddafi2236 You are a liar because you want to talk what happened after 2014, but not what happened in 2014.
In 2014, a coup was staged that violently overthrew the Yankovich govt.. Participants of the coup included Ukro Nazi groups like Right Sector and Azov Batallion. In the crowds in the Maidan, Victoria Nuland and John McCain were there distributing sweets. Why were they there ? The coup was organised by America and Victoria Nuland had been liaising with and funding Russophobic groups. In 2008, Merkel and Sarkozy had opposed induction of Ukraine into NATO saying it would lead to war. But the US arm twisted Germany and France to accept its plan to induct Ukraine into NATO. Nuland was caught on tape saying F..k the EU. In other words, the US determines what who will run Ukraine.
After the coup, and only after it, Russia took the Crimea. The reason is Sevastapol in the Crimea is the HQ of the Russian Black Sea fleet. At the time of independence, Ukraine made agreement with Russia it would lease out the use of Sevastapol port to the Russian Navy. With the seizure of power by Russophobic Ukro Nazis, they could unilaterally cancel that agreement after NATO entry, and the the US Seventh Fleet would be sailing from the Black Sea. Thus, Putin acted quickly to stop that, and took Crimea.
Ukraine has continued flirting with NATO reneging on its independence declaration which said it would not join any military alliance. US and NATO forces were training the Ukranian army near Lvov. Russia demanded commitment from Ukraine to honour its original agreement with Russia of neutrality, and asked NATO to give a security guarantee. Ukraine and NATO refused, so Russia had no choice but to take technical-military action. That is going on.
Russia has taken the industrial heartland, and the coastal area, and is strangling the Ukranian economy. It has got Ukraine by the scruff of the neck. Ukraine has only two choices now : accept neutrality AND cede more land (that is the price for inducing war); or continue till all of Ukraine is demolished city after city. There is nothing that NATO can do to thwart it.
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@putinmustenduplikegaddafi2236 The clause in article 2 negates Article 1. I caught you out, I bet you did not know about it. If Ukraine threatens any signatory of the Budapest Memorandum, action in self-defence can be taken against Ukraine. Ukraine, in coordination with one signatory, the US, was threatening Russia with NATO. The plan was to put US missiles in Ukraine, stop the Russian navy's use of Sevastopol which was originally agreed by Ukraine, and make it a naval base for the US Seventh Fleet. Hence, Russia has the right to annul Ukraine's independence or take action to degrade Ukraine. All the other signatories of the memorandum tried to be sneaky, but Russia stopped their wicked machinations against it, in no uncertain terms. You can howl as much as you like, the fact is Ukraine will be broken up and taken back over a period of time. Ukraine has squandered its independence due to the the irresponsibility of its politicians and people, and due to US manipulations.
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Typical American, explaining the US/NATO defeat in Ukraine, as shown in Vilnius. And typical westerner feeding soft questions that do not disturb the US-NATO narrative that they are defeating Russia.
As for her claim that Russia is not as powerful as we thought etc., why has the US then not sent troops to Ukraine, to win decisively and end the war ?
The reason is the Russians will kill Americans on a scale exceeding what they faced in Vietnam. The history of American defeats and hasty exits in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia etc. shows the Americans will not be able to face the casualties.
The reason the US blocked Ukraine's demand for entry into NATO and refused to provide a timeline is because it is afraid that Ukraine will demand Article 5, which would require US to send troops to Ukraine. The US knows the Russians will kill them.
By blocking Ukraine from NATO, the US now recognises Russia's objective - there will be no US bases in Ukraine. Therefore it is a Russian win, a US defeat. The US now knows that Russia is powerful and is ready to fight a nuclear war to prevent US bases in Ukraine, and it has the capacity to incinerate not only Leopard tanks and Bradleys, but all US cities.
So don't believe this ugly lady, she is trying to put on a brave face. The US is afraid to fight Russia. In Vilnius, one Ukrainian activist asked Jake Sullivan why US is blocking Ukraine's entry into NATO, was it because it was afraid of Russia ? She was told to show gratitude to America for the money spent !
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@nic7048 Ukraine as such is not a threat, it is the US that is a threat to Russia. The US planned to induct Ukraine into NATO to put its missiles there targeting Russia. You will recall Russia asked for a security guarantee, but the US refused. You tell me why the US refused. Then Russia took technical-military measures to make sure Ukraine will not join NATO and host US missiles. So don't be disingenuous and pretend you don't know western mendacity.
When the Warsaw Pact was dissolved, why was NATO kept, and why did it expand to Russia's borders five times when Russia had protested ? US Sec. James Baker had promised that NATO would not move an inch to the east. The Russians were taken for a ride. Ukraine was the last straw. Russia had to take action before Ukraine was inducted, because afterwards, Article 5 would be invoked, and it would require Russia to fight a nuclear war to dislodge the US from Ukraine. Hence, the western narrative that it was an unprovoked attack on an innocent is deceptive humbug.
It is better Russia fights a conventional war now and partitions or takes Ukraine, so a nuclear war is averted. Now it is clear to Ukranians and America that NATO entry will not be tolerated.
Russia was pushed to fight, but once they fight, they don't back down, they will take any casualties needed to defeat their enemy.
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@freko106 Your comment on Jo is not off the mark. But your comment on Zelensky as a ''true leader'' is off the mark. Yes, Z deserves credit for standing his ground, but not for being foolish to think he could get use Russophobia, hiding behind the hope of NATO entry and parking US missiles in Ukraine, to threaten Russia. That is a foreign policy disaster for Ukraine. Ukraine does not have the luxury to take a militantly anti-Russian stand to get into the western camp. Russia decided to nip the threat of the US using Ukraine to threaten Russia with missiles. At the end of the day, even if Russia could not capture Kiev and overthrow him, it still has the capacity to reduce Ukraine to rubble. Afterwards, Russia can wage a continuous low intensity war and not allow Ukraine to be rebuilt. Ukraine will end up balkanised, with some areas under Russian control, some areas under Ukranian control, which would need continuous supply of EU money to maintain. Zelensky and his pro western faction is responsible for getting Ukraine destroyed. The west is also responsible for encouraging Ukraine to cross Russia's red line, and then refusing to go and fight for Ukraine.
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Don't make immature comparisons. Russia will not allow US bases in Ukraine. It is ready to fight a nuclear war to stop it. Now the Americans understand it.
After the flop of the Ukrainian counter offensive, the Americans also now understand that Ukraine cannot evict the Russians. If the US lets Ukraine into NATO, it will ask for Article 5, and the Americans will have to send troops to Ukraine. In which case the Russians will kill Americans on a scale bigger than they faced in Vietnam. Judging from America's hasty exits from Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia etc., the Americans are cowards, they cannot take casualties. Russia has the capacity to incinerate all American cities.
In effect, Russia has met its objective : in Vilnius, effectively America was forced to give up on having bases in Ukraine. It is an American defeat, but they will not admit it, they will blame Ukraine and say it does not have democracy and it is corrupt.
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Indeed, Russia had no choice as he said on Ukraine. Sweden and Finland are not the same threat to Russia as Ukraine. Ukraine was starting to discriminate against Russian Ukranians. There were neo-Nazis actively promoting Russophobia. The US plan was to put missiles in Ukraine, and get the Ukranians to give them Sevasatopol, ousting Russia's Black Sea Fleet from its HQ.
Russia has stopped the US plans in Ukraine. Well done Russia ! Ukraine got smashed, but it is tough luck, it was their own decision to base nationalism on Russophobia.
As for Kremenchuk, Russia targeted a missile depot next to a supermarket and the fire spread. I can believe that. The Ukranians can cry and the west can make some temporary propaganda.
Ukraine and the west were given a chance to avoid the war by returning to the neutrality that was in Ukraine's declaration of independence, and by giving the security guarantee that Russia asked. Both declined, so Ukraine and the west have to pay the price of their folly. Why are they complaining ? When Russia goes for war, it has to follow through, it cannot take half measures, it has to to fight its enemies, Ukraine and the west, to win. And it is doing that.
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