Comments by "John Adam" (@johnadam2885) on "Hindustan Times"
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'I think over 150 or 200 million people came out of poverty in India since 2014.'
300-400 million were lifted out of poverty in the period 2003 to 2014 by Singh and Chidambaram.
Modi is living off that. During Modi's period, there was no job creation, and Indian economy sank by 2.5% of GDP after by demonetisation. Covid was handled badly, and hospitals did not have oxygen, and people were cremated on streets and bodies were floating on the Ganges - it was the worst record in the world.
Modi has created a couple of oligarchs, Ambani and Adani, and concentrated wealth in their hands, and they fund his election. It is crony capitalism.
Where did you get your statement from ? You are taken in by Modi and Indian media's projections that India has become some sort of Hindu superpower. Modi's appeal is to Hindus who regard him as a Hindu god. He shows off his Hinduness and that is the basis of his appeal, nothing more.
If Modi has done so much development, why does his party organise attacks against minorities at election time ? If he was confident of what he has done, he will be able to win elections on development alone.
India aspires to be a great power like China, Russia, the US. But it cannot be.
I have visited India and it is like a giant slum. I asked a Modi supporter, a Hindu in the north, what Modi has achieved that improved his life. He said 'nothing', but for us, he is the first Hindu king in 1000 years.
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@johnwayne-kd1pn What you are saying is logical but there are practical difficulties.
On the first point, sending war refugees back once war is over is not easy. Iraq and Afghanistan wars were over long before 2010. But the refugees have grown up in Europe, UK etc., they have families and children who have grown up here, so what do you do ? There are no Nazi solutions.
'US is saying Europe should pay for defence etc and that they should bill us, we should say the US should pay for the people who had to flee from US wars to Europe'.
Europe has been entwined with the US. In some of these wars pioneered by the US, Europe has been a tacit supporter - for example, in the Israel wars with Palestine and neighbours. The UK created the Palestine problem, but they have never tried to solve it - it supports Israel. The Israeli historian Ilan Pappe says that Israel was the European solution to a European problem, at the expense of making Palestinians refugees. The French have colonial wars still in Africa. Europe did not go with the Iraq war, but UK was a key mover. Different parts of Europe have to bill not just the US, but also each other. In Europe itself, there was a genocide of the Bosnians by he Serbs, and Europe did not do anything.
Take the Ukraine war. The US, UK and Europe have been active partners in NATO expansion. The Ukraine war has brought 9 million refugees. Ukraine is destroyed, so it would be difficult to send the Ukrainians refugees back. They would not be going to Ukraine, they will be going to Russia.
The US is the main culprit. It created many wars in the Latin America - and it faces a refugee problem.
However, Europe is not unique in the refugee problem. The US led Afghan war created massive refugee problem for Pakistan. The US war in Vietnam brought some boat refugees but neighbours like Cambodia, Laos soaked a lot up. They do not complain, they took them. Lot of Palestinian, Lebanese etc. refugees are in the Gulf states, Turkey etc. but they do not create a hue and cry.
Europe is too highly embedded with the US, so it has to share the problems.
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@redbear1935 The essence of survival if your small is diplomacy and neutrality. Learn from the Swiss, they have been that way for 500 years, and they are successful.
Whereas your type of country tries to seek support from another power, and then throws stones at others, thinking you are under a protective shield. Lithuania has not only angered Russia but also faraway China. You think you are the leader of 'the free world' because you got entrance into their club. Ukraine, Poland and similar also have the same delusions. You would not survive one day if the US lost interest in NATO or decided it cannot afford it. That will be your day of reckoning.
Using your intellect to decide what is best for survival is the best way to survive. Thinking you have the US and NATO, and you survived Mongols,Crusaders, Turks,Napoleon, Kutusov,Hitler, Stalin, therefore you can throw stones at Russia and say 'we are doing it because the EU told us' is exceedingly stupid.
Most organisms have a survival strategy. Lithuanian behaviour is the opposite. You risk getting destroyed for the EU and an imaginary 'free world'. The weakest countries seem to have a death wish.
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@rao521 What is the purpose of your reply ? It is unconnected with the subject that Ihlan Omar raised : the persecution of India's minorities as a state policy by its current government. Can you deny that churches were attacked during Christmas, Muslims have been lynched over cows, and Muslim houses were bulldozed for protesting their persecution, while police join Hindu rioters (BBC video of Delhi riots during Trump's visit) ?
The US and western countries do not have elected representatives reporting to a Nazi organisation like the RSS, they report to their constitutions. There is no state sponsored attack on minorities in the west. People in the west do not go and lynch Hindus for example because they worship the cows or idols. So don't compare yourself to any western country, you are sliding to the worst of the third world, and you don't want to come out of it.
Don't try to deflect India's current abymsal governance by bringing in colonial history. No one is damaging India today other than Hindus. No point blaming minorities, or former western colonialists. Address the problem for India's current failure : Hindu fascism.
At one stage, India was presented as a rising democratic success, but not anymore. Hindu extremism, not Ihlan Omar, has undone India's former fair reputation.
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The blame game starts when defeat stares.
For the west, the Russian action was presented as a moral outrage, 'an unprovoked attack against a sovereign nation' (BoJo). No discussion and questioning of the US drive for NATO expansion, and the US action of cultivating and stoking anti-Russianism in Ukraine, and staging a coup in 2014 to position an implanted anti-Russian government.
The west believed its own propaganda : Russia was weak economically and militarily, the west would be able to strangle Russia with sanctions, and the western equipment was so much superior, and Russian equipment was so much inferior, that Ukraine will defeat Russia and Russia would surrender and accept western terms. These are convictions that westerners still hold.
Hence, indeed western expectations were high, and Ukraine promised what the west wanted to believe as it has an implanted govt., which knows the tune its master wants to hear.
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@solmak47 'they already shut off Black Sea to NATO due to Ukraine war to support Russia… '
They have done this according to the Montreux convention from 1936 which regulates the traffic between Black Sea and Mediterrenean. In wartime, if Turkey is not involved in the conflict, warships of the nations at war may not pass through the Straits, except when returning to their base.
Since NATO countries are aiding and abetting a warring party, Turkey does not let NATO warships enter during a period of war. Equally, Russia's Baltic fleet cannot enter to support its Black Sea Fleet. Hence, Turkey is following the rules.
Russia has access to the Black Sea due to its fleet in Sevasatopol. The US push to get Ukraine into NATO was to expel the Russian Black Sea fleet from Sevastapol. That is why Russia had to seize Crimea in 2014, to stave off NATO mischief to block Russia from the Black Sea
Yes, Turkey is doing well, as it is does not listen to US and EU. UK, Germany and France have to tow the US line. They are doormats of the US. They have to buy LNG at 4x the price due to order from the US. Germany does not even have the courage to name who blew up Nordstream pipeline. Generally, vassal states do not have a control of their destiny.
Turkey is not a vassal state. It can get energy from Russia or anywhere. In fact Putin met Erdogan to create a gas hub in Turkey. Turkey also dictates terms in NATO - again, because it is a sovereign state.
'Why send troops? Their basic weapons on the hands of Ukrainians are doing great job!'
That is a face saver. If NATO is strong, you could have stopped the war by defeating Russia quickly. No need for Ukrainains to be massacred. But then the Russians would massacre you instead - and you do not have the courage.
Ukranians are doing a great job ? They lost 20% of their country, they are losing Soledar and Bakhmut, they have more than 100,000 soldiers killed, no power or water, they have no access to the sea, their GDP is < 50% of before, the damage is $ 1 trillion, they have 7 million refugees, and the beating will continue. Great job ? You are sitting smugly and safely in Europe, like a coward, and declaring Ukraine is winning.
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@parthbhatt2648 You are bluffing with someone who has visited India and had a look at your Scriptures, and studied also the writings of Ambedkar and also Brahmin Nazis like Golwalkar.
'one who knows and follows Vedas is Brahmin, by definition' - 'Similarly, a non-Brahmin fulfilling the above criteria can qualify to become a Brahmin. So basically anybody can become Brahmin if they want to regardless of their so-called caste or even their religion.'
You are trying to pull a fast one.
The Vedas and all Hindu texts (Mahabharata, Ramayana etc.) endorse caste. If you say you are a follower of the Vedas, you follow the caste system by definition. Ambedkar wrote a condemnation of a wicked story in the Ramayana where the god Rama slays Shambuga from the untouchable caste for doing penance and reading Vedas.
'by definition, a Brahmim is someone who has (or pursues) the knowledge of Brahmand, meaning the universe. So technically any scientist who knows Vedas can claim to be a Brahmin, and no one can stop them.'
In the story in the Ramayana, Shambuga could not become a Brahmin by studying the Vedas. So what are you talking about ?
The caste system was not codified by the British, it is very much a tenet, in fact the only tenet of Hinduism. The first history of India was written by the scholar Alberuni from Afghanistan, about 1025 AD, and he notes the Hindus do no believe in equality of people before God.
Ambedkar wrote that if Indians migrate one day outside India, caste will become a world problem. This Brahmin Ramasamy's statements denying racism in US is similar to a Brahmin like you denying the caste racism in India.
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Kissinger correctly summed up India as the largest, unimportant country.
Indians have a sense of entitlement, because India has the largest population. Its 5th ranking in GDP is misleading and is only linked to the population; per capita GDP is now lower than Bangladesh. On any ranking of metrics of standard of living, Indian will be in the bottom 30.
Jaishankar's plea is that due to large population, India should be in the Security Council. That is a pathetic plea. No one is going to buy that.
India has enmity with all its neighbours - with Pakistan and China, not to mention Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. It has slid into enmity with Muslims and Christians.
India itself is a fractious tinderbox. The Hindus are an inexplicable collection of castes, and they seek unity by beating up minorities. That is how pathetic they are.
The economic miracle was made by Manmohan Singh, it has run its course, now India is mired in Hindu extremism and Nazi style nationalism.
Jaishankar himself has written a book on India's predicament. India is surrounded by enemies (of its own creation), it is not strong enough economically as China, it is not militarily powerful as Russia, China and the US, it is not strong enough to be a dictating pole even in its neighbour hood, it has to have a balancing act between Russia, China and the US to have a semi-independent stance.
India is casting about for relevance. Modi has given high caste Hindus and Hindus settled abroad a false belief that Hindus are now someone important in the world. But the low caste Hindus are not benefited, let alone non-Hindus. Unlike China, Russia or America, there is no Indian sense of nationhood. It is an inexplicable collections of castes and communities with rising intolerance, and leaders like Modi rely on that for power.
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The cartoon is correct. Indians talk too much, and boast they are becoming a superpower, and claim they are a world teacher. The Chinese on the other hand are 'doers'. Anyone who has been to Shanghai and Bombay can attest the cartoon is right. India's fastest train can run at 160 km/h; that is about the same as the steam engine Flying Scotsman achieved in the 1930s.
Indians are focused on Hindu supremacy, beating up minorities (Christians, Muslims and Sikhs). They cannot overcome their wretched caste system, and they have a peculiar and unnatural obsession with the cow and its urine. The cow has more rights than humans in India.
Look at their PM. He is uneducated and grew up in an organisation with Hitlerian views on establishing Hindu supremacy in the world. He gained power by organising a pogrom against Muslims in his native state (see the BBC programme); that is his sole appeal to Hindus. He is into grandstanding about the Hindu place in the world.
India will remain permanently in the category of developing country. Kissinger once said 'India is the largest unimportant country'. That assessment still holds. It is largest by population, but per capita GDP is lower than Bangladesh.
The fact that India has the largest number of migrants (legal and illegal) is proof that India is a shoddy country and it has gone down in recent years.
India is no comparison to China. China will make it to the status of world superpower with US and Russia. India will be a plodder, and it is most likely to self-destruct due to its capacity for violent infighting between Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs and Christians. Churchill had correctly read Indians when he said they do not have what it takes to form a country, and it is a matter of time before they fight between themselves and self destruct.
In the early days, India had western educated politicians like Nehru and Gandhi, and now you have the homespun Indian politician, who is an old fashioned Hindu chauvinist.
Indians are incapable of addressing their faults, they merely react by calling others 'racist'. Modi belongs to a group that modelled itself on Nazi Germany. Germany has abandoned Nazism, in India Hindu Nazism reigns.
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After saying 'we shall support Ukraine for however long it takes' and BoJo saying Putin must not be allowed to win, as it would be breach of the western 'rules based order' , it must feel like a devastating defeat for the western elites, who believed in their superiority. Putin has changed the world order, and shown a US led alliance cannot bully Russia, in the same way as Iraq and Afghanistan. New trade flows have started between Russia, China, India, Africa, ME and South America, and de-dollarisation has started.
The UK and Europe need to realise they are committing economic suicide for America. If they do that, China and others will replace them, and Europe will become irrelevant. It is best for UK and Europe to be independent of the US and have good relations with Russia and China, and the US.
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@Blablablae I have been to India, and I have met Indians, and I don't believe you.
'The only mistake of Modi government was to pay less heed towards the education sector which is the most crucial part for nation building. '
Some years back. Modi govt. was fighting students of university in Delhi, using police and beating them, and his politicians were asking them to be shot.
'In development aspect they have done great improvement with some amazing policies in work (people are not aware of those, that's why education & awareness is necessary). '
What are the amazing development polices ? If has done so much, why does he call for a riot and polarise Hindus around election time ? He should win elections with just development as in western countries.
'India will surely become superpower in coming decades and the current scenarios are the example of it.'
That is wishful thinking. India does not have what it takes to be a superpower. Lack of education is one reason. Modi's rise was based on lumpen mob violence against minorities.
There are only three superpowers, China, US and Russia. India cannot join them. Jaishankar has written a book admitting as much. India has to play a balancing act between China, US and Russia. It does not have a strong enough economy, its share of world manufacturing is only 2%, and service is 4%. It has the largest population in a limited land, with high literacy. India has the largest number of migrants using any method to get out of India.
The caste system is a uniquely debilitating factor; it is against universal education. The writer Khushwant Singh wrote that caste is the fondest belief of Hindus.
'but majority of population is the middle class one.' Modi himself is an uneducated tea seller whose greatest achievement was the Gujarat riot (see the BBC documentary; why was it banned in India ?). In a developed country, the person would be prosecuted for criminal offence and would be barred from contesting. But in India, the middle class voted for an uneducated criminal. How do you explain that ? Previously India had well educated leaders generally - Nehru, Singh, Chidambaram etc.
The only explanation for Modi's popularity is his projection of Hindu chauvinism. Middle class Indians love that, they are not ashamed of it, they don't mind voting for a Hindu criminal. Therefore India cannot become a developed country.
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India's Hindu nationalists are on a dicey road. True, that Canada has been lax and allowed extremists Sikhs to bomb a plane and then did not follow up with action. However, the origin of Khalistan movement is from the attempt of the Hindu fascist RSS to snub out Sikh identity, by telling them the Sikhs are Hindus and Hindi (and not Punjabi) is their language. This led to the Khalistani movement. The riots and massacre of the Sikhs (which was under the Congress govt. watch) has not been forgotten. The RSS and even Congressis took part in the lynching of Sikhs. A section of the Sikhs are so alienated, they are opposed to India. The Hindu nationalist govt. of Modi has made it worse. Modi tried to pass farm laws favouring his Gujarati Hindu business oligarchs - at the expense of the farming community of Punjab, the Sikhs. The Sikhs (and other farmers) protested and the laws had to be repealed. Since then the Hindu govt. and the Hindu media started maligning the Sikhs. The Hindus have started attacking Muslims and Christians as well, so increasingly it looks like it was not the Sikhs that were the problem, but the Hindus.
India could have afforded to ignore the Khakistanis. But by carrying out an assasination, the Sikhs may now retaliate. India will continue harassing Sikhs in India, and the problem becomes worse. The role of Hindu fascists in pogroms against Sikhs, Christians and Muslims will become more apparent as this comes out into the open.
Western governments need to back Canada and review western attempts to co-opt India against China. India's economy under Modi is a mirage, and India does not have the military strength to counter China. The west is over estimating India's worth. Instead, western governments must wake up to the real threat. Indians, not the Chinese and Russians, pose the greatest danger to the west. Indians, unlike Chinese and Russians, migrate in large numbers to the west, and the new generation of Hindus are brainwashed with notions of Hindu supremacy. They are boasting that Sunak and Hindus have taken over the UK, and they are hopeful that the Hindu Ramasamy takes over in the US. The Hindus were a model minority once in western countries but that has changed. They have become the nasty minority backing Modi's pogroms against minorities in India, which then spills over into the west.
If you look at all the videos on HT and Indian media, there is a bragging tone of Hindu supremacy. They have the feeling Hindus are superpower and they dictate to others.
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@redbear1935 Switzerland had two war mongering powers on its borders, France and Germany, but managed to survive even WW 2 without invasion by two principles (1) keep neutrality and not join any military alliance (2) avoid discrimination in a tri-ethnic country having German, French and Italian speakers, and keep all three languages in the govt...
Ukraine, Lithuania, Poland etc. have flouted these principles for survival for small countries. They want to join a military alliance which targets one powerful country and having done so, they go out of their way to be provocative to show off their independence. They mistreat and discriminate against Russian language speakers, inviting foreign intervention.
Ukraine, Lithuania, Poland etc. can learn from the Swiss. Russia gave independence, it is once in liefetime chance, these countries are squandering it. If these countries had intellect, they would try to have relations with EU and Russia, and have best of both worlds. But the US has used its money power and made them think 'be with us, and against Russia'. If they continue provoking Russia, eventually Russia will want to reclaim these.
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I would not worry too much about India's stance. Kissinger said a long while ago that 'India is the largest unimportant country'. That is still true.
The Quad alliance to contain China is fundamentally misplaced and ineffective. India is the weakest and most ineffective link. The US knows that India does not have much substance. At election time, India staged a fight with Pak and lost a plane and a pilot got captured. But amazingly, they celebrated it as a victory and it was an election winner. India lost land to China recently and meekly kept quiet. That speaks volumes about India. They cannot fight like Ukranians against a bigger power. But they can fight internally against its own citizens.
The Trump govt.'s stance with India was purely transactional. An Indian oil and gas company invested some money in Lousiana and Trump went along.
The Biden govt. knows India has taken an ugly turn with militant Hindu 'nationalism' which is nothing other than fascism. India is internally unstable due to Hindu persecution of minorities, both Muslims and Christians. The Sikhs are near the edge as well, Hindu 'nationalism' may turn against them. 'Hindu nationalism' is akin to 'white nationalism'.
Both the US and India do not want to walk away from each other as enemies, but at the same time there is nothing much each has to offer the other. About 15 years ago, the perception of India was that it is the next Asian tiger, even the next China. However, that perception has changed with India's economic decline in the last 10 years which is associated with the primacy of 'Hindu nationalism'. Western interest may still imagine that India is a big market for its goods, but its economy has declined due to mismanagement, so the people do not have purchasing power, hence there is no use for the west. India's current focus is to build an exclusively Hindu nation which it imagines will bring it respect, and the way they see to do it is to fight with minorities. That will only bring civil war, and refugees and break up.
The starry eyed projection of India is over now. It is better the US puts India on a 'to watch list of nations that might unravel in the next 25 years'. India's independent stance over Russia is commendable, but the west should not be too hung up about it - because India does not count for much, and will be a liability in the future.
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@person1858 'Your policy makers who understand more than you do, seem to believe that India is going to do really well. I wonder what to make of this.'
You are wrong that US policy makers currently think India is going to do really well. In an earlier period 15 years ago, we heard India is the upcoming Asian tiger on the heels of China. People like Thomas Friedmann and Fareed Zakaria painted a glowing picture of India and bracketed India and China together. But in the last few years, the Indian economy has tanked, and with the rise of Hindu fundamentalism, some even question India's viability.
As a result people in the west are unsure about India and don't know what to make of it.
The US would like to have India as an ally against China based on some notions of being a fellow democracy. However, the Biden Administration has people who are aware that India has been engaged in state sponsored violence against minorities. US criticism of religious persecution infuriates the Hindu right wing who either say Hindus are victims of history, or are victims somewhere else, or retort it is India's internal matter, or say there is racism in the US.
There is little to choose between China and India when it comes to human rights. If it is economy, China is ahead and will be anyone's front choice, and India has fallen behind so much in the last 10 years that even Indians cannot trumpet their economy.
Further, India has a border conflict with China. China took land, and the 'Hindu nationalists' did not have the courage to fight. China will take more land in the future if India tries to fight China. The US cannot intervene to save India as it cannot fight China either.
Hence the India-US relationship and Quad are not very serious, both sides are incompatible and also have nothing to offer each other, but at the same time, both do not want to walk away either, because both see China as a common threat.
India as usual flattered to deceive. It had a promising future which never came, and now it is downsliding on the road of tribal conflict. India would like to be like Myanamar, and carry out pogroms against minorities. Of course, if you look at the Youtube clips of Indian made videos like HT, one sees a self congratulatory belief that Hindus are becoming a superpower and the world better take notice. It smacks of an inferiority complex.
Kissinger's contemptuous description that India is the largest non-important country still holds.
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The root of the problem is Hindu Nazism, more politely called Hindu nationalism. This has led to persecution of Sikhs, Muslims and Christians and even Hindus who they classify as 'low castes'.
Canada, US, UK should reduce visas for Hindus with links to Hindu nationalism. A dossier should be made of all prominent Hindus who have indulged in hate speeches against minorities or incited Hindu mob violence against hapless minorities.
The west should drop the illusion that India is an emerging power in the democratic camp who will be useful to contain China. India's economy is a mirage and it does not have the military capability to fight China.
The strategy of the Hindu Nazis has been to infiltrate their supporters into western society to capture power. Rishi Sunak is an example, he is willing to shield them out of Hindu pride. In the US, they are fielding the super right wing Hindu Ramasamy.
The migration of Hindu Nazis to the west poses a threat to the stability of western societies. It is time the west woke up and smelt the coffee. Yesterday Hindus took out a religious procession in Leicester city without the police permission. The police stopped them and then Hindus manhandled the police and shouted about 'Hinduphobia'.
Last year, Hindu militants (students or new migrants from India) created a riot in Leicester against Pakistanis.
Similarly, Hindus have attacked Sikhs in Canada.
If the US, Canada, UK etc. don't hold them accountable for this assassination, they will get emboldened further and carry on.
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@Rolf-farmedfacts-supervisor Come on man, Europe is a hopeless and spineless dependent of the US. You would not survive one day without the US. The command structure of NATO is entirely US. Without a US decision, you cannot take action.
As for European production of arms, your Norwegian idiot Stoltenberg has said with the rate of consumption of artillery shells by the Ukranians (forced on them by the Russians), Europe would only be able to supply 1/4 of Ukraine's demand.
Norway,Sweden, Germany,Poland,Slovakia,Estland,France,Austria and Belgium, Finland, UK....together cannot match mighty Russia. That is why you run to America and consent to be its slave. That is why the rest of the world holds you in contempt.
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@sk.43821 Europe is a collection of weak states, that would beat the hell out of each other. That is their history. However, now there is only one power in Europe, that is Russia. Russia makes the European states quake as it can beat the hell out of them. France got a taste of that in 1812, German Nazis got it in 1945. The Ukro Nazis are being whipped now.
Partnering with the US means you have to be subordinates and go and die for them in Afghanistan or where ever America demands. And the US can cut and run from Kabul, without consulting its 'partners'. Europeans are shameless doormats. You saw how the US encouraged Ukraine and its Ukro Nazis to throw stones at Russia promising NATO protection, but when Russia gave a beating, the US did not send troops, it have the Ukranians some stones from a safe distance. Were Russia to attack Lithuania next (they are behaving in a way that invites a thrashing), you will see the US will look the other way and forget about Article 5. Kissinger said if the Soviet Union were to attack Germany or Europe, the US would not fight a nuclear war to save Europe. That is the same situation. So you can be a doormat for the US and feel very proud, but if you mess with Russia, you will face consequences you have not faced in your life. You must know it.
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What Obama has said obviously is true, that is why the Indians are so enraged. India is known for cow lynching, and rape, and burning minorities. When Trump visited, there was a riot in Delhi and the Hindu police threw stones at the Muslims. The BBC documentary Gujarat Files showed Modi is basically an organiser of riots and murders. That is the basis of his power.
Indeed, any country where one group persecutes another will fall apart. It leads to civil war. So far the Muslims outside Kashmir have put up with the persecution and not decided to fight. But that might change.
Churchill doubted that India was a real country. The independence generation like Nehru and Gandhi had exposure to democracy and western standards. Now we have the homespun Hindu like Modi, and he is from a group that admired Hitler. Hitlerism caused Germany's death, and Hindu Hitlerism will be India's downfall.
The US is clutching at straws like India because it has got cornered by Russia and China acting together. The US has Europe under its belt but it is not enough to counter Russia + China. So they are seeking India. But India does not really fit the bill. It is not really strong militarily or economywise. India is in BRICS with Russia and China and wants a multi polar world, and expansion of non-dollar trade. At the same time, India is in Quad, an alliance to contain China. China took Indian land, but India is too weak to fight or open its mouth. The rest of Quad did not even open their mouth, let alone come to aid India.
The US is being opportunistic in ignoring Modi's record and this undermines its claim to defending human rights. It is this rank opportunism and double speak of the US that has led to Africans, the Arabs and Latin Americans to not back the US over Russia.
India also better watch it. The US only has client states like Pakistan and European nations. It wants to sell arms, and it expects India to send troops to fight its wars. The Indian army used to do that for the British.
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India shields Hindu terrorists from Gujarat riots. The man at the top is a criminal. So what is HT lecturing others about ?
The origin of Sikh separatism is Hindu militancy that claimed Sikhs were Hindus and Hindi (and not Punjabi) is their language. Hindu misgovernance is the root of the problem. Hindus in India have been killing Sikhs, Muslims and Christians. The latest Hindu mob violence was against Christians in Manipur.
Western countries have to support Canada. Even if the man was a separatist, Canada cannot allow India's extra judicial killings (which it practises in India) to be carried out abroad. Western countries need to wake up and realise that Indians, specifically Hindus (or BJP supporting Hindus) pose the greatest threat to their societies. Yes, it is Indians who are the threat, not Russians and Chinese - the latter do not migrate in large numbers and they do not bring with them the disputes in their countries. Since the rise of 'Hindu nationalism' in India, many Hindus settled abroad have vibed with it. The BJP and RSS (Hindu fascist group) even have a design to push in new Hindu immigrants into the west, to capture power and influence to support their fascist policies against minorities in India. They were gloating about Sunak capturing power for Hindus in UK and showing off his Hindu affiliations. They are expectant that the Hindu Ramasamy will win the US elections.
Western countries have three illusions (1) Indians are a model minority (2) India is a rising economic power due to 5th largest GDP and (3) it can aid in containing China.
Indians might have been a model minority some years back, but the rise of a fascistic Hindu nationalism in India has changed the mindset and behaviour of even Hindus settled in the west - right up to Sunak. India's economy is a mirage. 5th largest GDP is solely because of the largest population. India's per capita income is lower than Bangladesh and on the global hunger index, it is with sub-Saharan Africa. The west might think it can set up manufacturing in India. However, India has a protective economy that does not allow fair competition. It has a few businessmen like Adani and Ambani, who are corrupt and have an oligarchic relationship with Modi. The govt. shields their businesses against competition and in return they finance Modi's election. The experience of foreign companies like Vodafone and Cairns energy forced them to leave India. Apple is losing money after setting up a manufacturing unit in India. They find India does not have enough skilled manpower. India's military power is also non-existent. Two years ago, China seized Indian land and Modi had to keep quiet. India knows it will be beaten in a war with China. Even when it had a skirmish with Pakistan (suspiciously staged for Modi's election), Pakistan shot down an Indian plane and captured its pilot. India cannot contain China economywise as it does not have the low cost manufacturing base, and it has an uneducated and unqualified population. Militarywise, it cannot fight China. India manufactures hardly any hardware, it depends on Russia.
It is time for the west to realise that India does not have the potential, and Indian migration (specifically Hindus) poses the greatest threat to western society. The visa and migration policies should be reformulated. Canada will take the lead, but the US, UK, EU and Australia have to follow. The Gulf states employ many Indians, but they need to watch for mischief created by Hindy nationalists. They had to deport some Hindus when they started sending hate messages against Arabs on Whats App.
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The Arab leaders need to work with Russia, and not the US. They should open their eyes and realise the US and the west will always run to defend Israel. The Jews have a stranglehold on US politics, media and finance. The US defines the rules for everyone else. Israel can practise apartheid because it is in the western camp, but Palestinians cannot fight for their freedom as the US has labelled them with the T word. Also, the Arabs should realise, normalisation of relations with Israel without implementing the Two State Solution will not work. Israel is an abnormal apartheid state, so normalisation will not work. They are just greedy, they would take more land, and if you allow them in, they will undermine Saudi Arabia, Emirates. That is the Jewish mentality.
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India is highly immature and is nursing a Hindu inferiority complex. The G20 is a summit that is waning in value. So is G7.
G7 is run by the west. G20 was created by the west to show some inclusiveness. Basically, some second rank countries like Inddonesia, India, Saudi started getting some chance to show their presence. But countries like Indonesia did the job last year but did not lose their heads.
The problem with India is it would like to be considered a superpower like China, Russia, and the US. The problem it is not there now, nor does it have the capability to be a superpower. What it has is an excessive show of false Hindu pride, and vain self congratulations, and adulation for a Modi, their Hindu godman (in India, they have this creature they call godman). Indonesia and other second rank countries do not behave like this.
The reason India behaves like this lately is due to Modi's 'Hindu nationalism' (a polite western term for Hindu fascism). Modi has synced with the Hindu inferiority complex and created the impression in the minds of credulous Hindus that India is looked up on as a guru by the rest of the world. Indian media are full of self praise and congratulations. Hindus have a tradition of blind worship of godmen, and Modi is an infallible godman for them.
India spent 10x what Indonesia or a developed country like Germany spent on G 20. That is true Third Worldism. They actually erected sight screens on some roads to hide the shanty towns of Delhi. Everything in India is fake - like Bollywood movies. They have a craving for respect, but they hide the reality.
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India is now well known for killing its minorities - Sikhs, Muslims and Christians. This is in its quest to make a Hindu state. It is no longer the country we cherished earlier due to Mahatma Gandhi and Nehru. India might have been poor, but it was dignified and held up as a model for tolerance and co-existence, unity in diversity. It is not that anymore. Modi spearheads this campaign of 'Hindu nationalism' (actually Hindu fascism) and although he is elected through his BJP party, it is a front for the Hindu Nazi paramilitary group called the RSS. In case people do not know, the RSS killed Mahatma Gandhi. The RSS leaders in the 1930s wrote articles admiring Hitler and wishing for the same model in India - these can be found on the net. Modi has been a member of the RSS and he organised a pogrom against Muslims in Gujarat. Before he became PM, he was a persona non grata and he could not get a visa for western countries due to the pogrom. After he became PM, western states had to lift the bar to him because he was head of state. Under his rule, Muslims have been lynched over cows. Recently, his party organised a pogrom against Christians in Manipur state.
Western countries need to beware as the RSS is infiltrating its Hindu Nazis into the west, with the aim of influencing western polity, so they turn a blind eye to their genocide of minorities. The Indian media is not independent as formerly. It now tows the lines of Hindu fascism, partly as it has been purchased by powerful oligarchic Hindu businessmen and independent Indian journalists have been killed, threatened and harassed by the Hindu nationalist government. This can be seen in the shrill Hindu hysteria in all the videos from HT and others in the Indian media. This killing of a Canadian Sikh is a case where the Hindu nationalists have decided to silence their critics abroad as well.
Western governments need to be very careful in their assessment of India. They are courting India, somewhat half heartedly thinking it has a large market, and it can be bulwark against China. India's economy was built by Dr. Singh but it has withered away under Modi. It cannot become a manufacturing alternative to China. Hence, India is of little economic value for the west. Besides, despite the posturing by Hindu nationalists of being a superpower, India is not strong enough to counter China. China took Indian land and Modi kept as quiet as a mouse to avoid a fight in which India would have been publicly defeated. Thus on both counts, the west is clutching at a straw.
Indians (rather than India) is more dangerous for the west than Russians and Chinese. The Hindu nationalists have infiltrated western polity in their quest for Hindu domination. Unlike Russians and Chinese , Indians immigrate to the west in large numbers. Thereby Indians pose a threat to the west due to the sheer volumes that migrate. Thus western governments and Middle East countries need to be careful about giving work visas to Indians, particularly Hindus. Last year, newly immigrated Hindu youth created a riot in Leicester, UK. UK newspapers reported that it was a outfall of the culture of mob violence the Hindu nationalists ruling India have nurtured.
Canada has instituted a visa check on Indians who have served in the Indian army. If they have served in the Indian army in Kashmir, they do not get visas. Canada needs to extend the visa security check to Indians who have been in the RSS and deny visas for them. This is absolutely necessary to stop Hindu fascists from infiltrating Canada and fighting with Sikhs, Muslims and even 'low caste' Hindus in Canada; that is, to avoid replicating the mayhem they create in India. In fact all western countries need to screen Indian visa applicants to check if they have been members of the RSS or raised funds for it.
If Indians agents assasinate Canadian Sikhs, then what is to stop the Sikhs from assasinating Hindu diplomats in Canada ?
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@andrewmckenzie292 It is best for the US to be cooperative, and not try for a unipolar world. At the end of the cold war, the neocons emerged and they got carried away. Wolfowitz wrote a doctrine that the US would not allow any other power to rise. The US also seems to need a permanent enemy to fight, to mobilise the western public. In the 1990s, it was Muslims and Islamophobia. Fighting with Muslims over 20 years did not lead to a win and cost over a trillion dollars and sapped US economic strength. By 2018, under Trump, China was proclaimed as the new enemy, and he vilified China on every occasion. Biden withdrew from Afghanistan to focus on curbing China. In between, unexpectedly, Russia came in. Now Russia is the main enemy that makes the western mind distraught, followed by China. The west is not going to lose fighting Muslims (not even a power), Russia and China.
Why can't the west learn to live with others ?
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The IDF will go into Gaza, and get killed, and then find they cannot get out as that would be defeat, so they have to be there for years.
I guess the Americans now know after their Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq debacles that it is easy to get in, but not easy to get out with a victory against a guerrilla war. Biden is giving the right foreboding. But the Israelis are trapped. The Israeli population is angry with Netanhayu, and demoralised. The Palestinians knocked out their self-confidence. The Israeli govt. is under pressure to do something, but is in a mess. It has to (1) get the hostages out (2) destroy Hamas without being sucked into an attritional no-win war (3) stave off a three front war. If Israel goes in, it can say farewell to the hostages and the public will be furious with Netyanhu. It cannot destroy Hamas. They have the will power and spirit, they are ready to take casualties, the IDF is casualty averse. A three front war is even less winnable. Israel needs money and arms, and the US is struggling in Ukraine to supply. That is why the US is pressurising to avoid a long conflict.
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@solmak47 This economic-sanctions business is a typical western conceit. The US put sanctions on Iran, and Iran has not had diplomatic relations with the US for over 50 years, yet it is making everything including killer drones.
You said Russia and the rouble would not last one day, but Putin floored the western economies. Russia is de-industrialising the west. BASF is downsizing in Germany and EU and shifting to China. The rouble performed well while the pound and euro lost 20% of their value.
Turkey is also capable of surviving sanctions. The fact is countries like Russia, China, Iran, Turkey are truly sovereign and can tell the US to go to hell. European states, in contrast, are pathetic vassals of the US.
The west has shot itself in the foot by sanctions on Russia. It has undermined its key asset, the banking system, which it controlled. Now the trade in non-dollar currencies has increased. Even the Saudis, Qataris and Emiratis now do not listen to the west.
If you put sanctions on Turkey, it will team up with Russia and close all western and Ukranian shipping in the Black Sea. You need to realise the days of your colonial blackmail are over.
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@solmak47 Turkey has made leaps and strides, it makes Bakratar drones, it makes carbon fibres and composites, many German companies use it as a manufacturing base.
There is no way NATO will kick out Turkey. They do not have a mechanism for expulsion. Further, the US needs Turkey more than the other way round. If NATO does what you demand, Turkey can join fully with Russia, and that would be a formidable combination. They control the Black Sea, and can shut off NATO access.
Turkey is a medium size power, and can act on its own. There is no country in Europe that has that capability and sovereignty. Even France and Britain are vassal states of the US.
Turkey acted as the intermediary between Russia and Ukraine. Only it has the trust of both. They have been brilliant in that. Switzerland offered to host talks, Russia rejected saying it was not neutral because it took part in sanctions. Flights from Turkey go to Russia and Ukraine. It is a truly sovereign country unlike the servile ineffectual nations of Europe
Try to engage your brain instead of succumbing to emotive frustration.
Sweden and Finland will join if Turkey allows. Anyhow, even if Sweden and Finland join NATO, they are irrelevant weaklings. With or without them, NATO will not dare send troops to Ukraine.
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It is amusing to see Indians ('Hindu nationalists') itching to fight Palestinians and support Israel. What is the reason ? 'Hindu nationalists' have this frustration with Pakistan and Kashmir. They are unable to win in Kashmir. They take out that frustration on other Indian Muslims.
'Hindu nationalists' have this belief that little Israel is beating up the Muslims, and Hindus can learn from Israel how to do the same. However, Israel has been doing that only because of limitless US support. India does not have that support - in fact, after the fallout of the Indian terrorist attack in Canada, the US ambassador went to Pakistan and visited Kashmir.
Further Israel's invincibility and narrative of exceptionalism was finished by the strike on 7 Oct. Israelis are demoralised by the blow and its flawless execution. The Palestinians advanced to the kibbutzim only after neutralising Israel's security system and killing IDF soldiers in the way. Now Israel is far from winning position - they do not have the capacity to fight a prolonged urban war in Gaza while the Palestinians are willing for that, Israel faces multi front wars, the Israeli population is divided with people shouting to get their prisoners released, and its PM's only interest is to save himself from prison for corruption. The US and the west, who are the principal backers of Israel find there is public opposition at home, the US does not have the money to back war in Ukraine and Israel, and fight Iran, and maybe Turkey also.
India has misread and is not on the right side of history. It has become an Israel supporter at the wrong time, just when there are moves from Israel's strongest supporters in the west to scale back that support. Even Blinken said Israel cannot go back to the status quo. Afterwards, India might find the Arabs will reduce Indian workers in their countries due to the blatant Hindu stance against Muslims. The Hindus and Jews are together in a sinking boat ! Why a nation of 1.3 billion wants to be in a sinking boat with 5 million shows a weakness of character.
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Heckling is not a prosecutable offence in democracies. It may be in India which has a dictatorial PM with a Hindu fascist mindset. Hence, the title is all wishful thinking from the HT. The world is not all with India as Modi's Hindus imagine.
If India does an extra judicial killing in the UK (just because someone heckled a Hindu leader), as it did in Canada, India will find itself even more isolated. The UK will be forced to cancel any trade deal and support Canada.
India does extra judicial murder all the time against Sikhs, Muslims and Christians in India, and this has become the highlight of the Modi years. Modi himself came to power by killing 2000 Muslims using a Hindu mob. Western countries banned him for several years. Only some months back Christians were killed and raped in Manipur.
India needs to stop the persecution of Sikhs, Muslims and Christians by 'Hindu nationalists'. The 'Sikh problem' has come because the Hindus alienated the Sikhs by trying to erase their identity, claiming Sikhs are Hindus.
Earlier, Hindus were not a threat to the UK and the west, they were seen as sobre, hard working, humble people. That was from the days of Gandhi and Nehru.
But in recent years, due to the rise of a Hindu supremacist ideology inculcated in Hindus by Modi and his entourage, the Hindus of current day India pose a threat to western countries. The riots in Leicester by Hindus against Pakistani British who had lived together peacefully since the 1970s last year, were created by newly arrived Hindus from India. This year also some Hindu group took out a procession in Leicester for their elephant god, without police authorisation. When the police stopped it, the Hindus manhandled the police. The Hindus have become very brazen.
Similar violent altercations have taken place by Hindus against Sikhs in Australia. The Hindus themselves defaced Hindu temples in Australia and demanded punishment of Sikhs. The newly migrated Hindus behave as they do in India.
The west needs to realise the Hindus in India are not civilised as they were in the time of Nehru and Gandhi. They have become supremacist and they claim they are world teachers. Hindus are now exporting their extremists to the UK, Australia, Canada and the US. They even have a strategy for infiltrating the west with their cadre to capture power. They were celebrating Sunak becoming a PM as a Hindu achievement to capture the west; Sunak projects himself as 'proud Hindu' instead of a proud Briton.
Hence, while not allowing Sikh violence in the west is fine, don't forget the real problem the west faces : the Hindu supremacist militancy that led to India believing it can shoot a Canadian national, and get away. The Hindus imagine India is now a superpower and it is entitled to do these things.
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Marin is shallow, like most Europeans. Her argument is that 'we had good trade ties with Russia, it would be total madness to go for war and destroy those ties. But Putin did that, so the conclusion is the Russians don't think like us, they are irrational, to them business ties etc. are not important.
She is either ignorant or deliberately disingenuous. The factor that is not mentioned is US machinations for NATO expansion and US goal of getting missile and naval bases in Ukraine.
What must be asked is why the Europeans have aided and abetted the US in world hegemony including threatening Russia. Ukraine wanted to join the US-European bandwagon to threaten Russia.
Russia is not irrational, it just saw through the US game, and it knows the Europeans are worthless doormats. Russia has a leader who puts his country's security above anything. What bothers the Europeans is that Russia is prepared to act to defend its security and is strong enough to block Europe + US.
Russia finds that making Ukraine independent led Europe and the US to create security threats, and it is prepared to take action. If the Baltics, Poland, Finland allow the US to use them to create security threats to Russia, they too will get a beating.
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The difference is Modi kills Indian citizens to win elections and hold power. Therefore India is internally a weak country and might break up. Look at Manipur, Kashmir, Punjab.
Putin does not make Christians, Muslims, Jews etc. in Russia fight. He fights those from outside who threaten Russia. In contrast, when China took Indian land, Modi was quiet as a mouse. He did not have the courage to fight China. Whereas when the US went and threatened Russia with putting bases in Ukraine, Putin took pre-emptive action. Modi can learn from Putin to look after his citizens without discrimination and persecution, and unite India, and then take on external enemies.
India was always non-aligned, it is not due to Modi. Modi in fact craves for western acceptance, as do most Indians. But the Hindu violence Modi has spawned against minorities and even Hindu opponents in India puts off the west. There is a question mark about India. It does not look after its citizens like a democracy in the west, and it is not really strong economywise and militarywise as China. All we see about India is a boastful and vain Hindu nationalism, which reeks of a Hindu ineferiority complex.
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@sudhirlakshmanan
The western media says India lost land to China. Indian media and you say 'Not even a cm of land was surrendered. '
No one knows. You want to believe Indian media. Fine. Western media does twist and even lie when it comes to its challengers like Russia and China, but probably on an Indo-China affair, in which they have no interest, they would not lie.
Even in the Indo-Pak war, the western media doubted Indian air strikes hit anything more than trees. If I remember correctly, India lost a plane and the pilot was captured, but returned; I don't think India disputes this, so how can you say India won ?
Anyway, your thread is your claim that Putin and Modi are the most powerful leaders the world has seen in the 21st century.
I say there is no comparison. Putin is a strong leader, he can take on the US + EU together, both militarily and in economic war and win. Putin does not create divisions in the Russian Federation. He does not organise riots against Ukrainians or other ethnicities.
Modi's power base is Hindu, and he thrives on Hindu mobs attacking Muslims, Christians, Sikhs etc. You regard that as a powerful leader.
In the western media, Modi's brand is called 'Hindu natonalism'. It is more akin to fascism and is disintegrative.
I have been to India, before Modi and after Modi. I have been to China and many countries. India has been disappointing. You go to Shanghai, and you see it is more developed than Europe. You come to Bangalore, you will see chaotic traffic, and unbelievable noise. Once I was going from a hotel to Bombay airport. I was trapped by an oncoming Hindu procession with the elephant god on a chariots; they told me it was a religious festival. If you go to northern cities, you have cows on streets.
To people in India, it might seem India has become a great power because Modi says so. But have you been outside India ? Go to not only China, go to Singapore, Malaysia, Turkey, Dubai and you will see India is no match. That is why Indians migrate. How many Indians have gone back to India because Modi is a strong leader ? And how many are leaving ?
Indian society revolves around caste and religion. It always was like that, but under Modi, that is the ONLY thing. India has slipped in economic growth, education, democratic standards, protection of minorities and women. After the Leicester riots, BBC and The Guardian noted that Modi's Hindu nationalists are spreading their mob riot culture abroad. It is disgraceful.
Kissinger had said long ago that India is the largest unimportant country. Objectively, that is the correct assessment even now, despite PM Singh's great efforts (I did appreciate him). Apart from large population, India has no major achievements commensurate with that population. Recently, the US and EU said that Russia is the main threat now, and China is the long term challenger. Nobody mentions India as it is not a real competitor to anyone.
To me, Indians suffer from an inferiority complex arising from frustrated impotence. Your comment illustrates that. It is wishful thinking. Indians would like to be a superpower. But aspirations do not match ability. To be a superpower, India would need to eliminate the caste system and religious intolerance, get fully educated and thereby reduce population, and cultivate a scientific attitude. Can Modi do that ? Putin does not carry all this baggage that India and Modi do. So, no comparison.
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@sudhirlakshmanan ' no my aim is not to praise the Modi government.'
But you are the one who wrote Modi is the most powerful leader in this century. That could be true only if you meant he has a grip on India, and any one opposing him will be neutered by any means. But it does not mean Modi has any world impact or is admired outside.
On the hunger index, are you saying the methodology was inapplicable only to India ? What about countries in the list like China who are much higher up ? A visit to India shows Indians look scrawny and famished compared with people in other countries. A visit to China shows people look well fed. So the data correlates with what we see in a visit to India.
India comes bottom on many indicators. I remember a few years, India was near bottom for women's safety and rape.
India comes near the bottom in Olympics medals. That is not subjective or wrong methodolgy.
On the Covid situation, I saw (on BBC) pyres burning on streets and bodies floating on the Ganges. I did not see such a pitiful scenes anywhere. I don't know if Modi was fooling around, but facts are facts.
I have no hate for India. But I feel Indians can be more successful if they did not talk too much, but solved their problems like corruption, caste, religious fanaticism, and the chaos you mentioned. Instead, they blame the British, or someone else, and then pose as the greatest country. Indians don't solve their problems, but Indians boast there is no leader like Modi and the world is in awe of India. I do not see that kind of mentality in the Chinese. Their results speak for itself. Indians can learn to be doers like the Chinese rather than talkers.
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@sudhirlakshmanan You may not be seeing the poverty in India because you may be from some elite caste and you may be surrounded by them.
When you come out of any airport in India, and see the crowds, you can see the difference.
On the Ganges and dead bodies during Covid, I am only saying what I saw on the BBC. I don't think it was bias. BBC also showed there is a southern state called Kerala which had lower Covid mortality due to the Health Minster there. In fact, the BBC asked this Minister what she could teach Britain on controlling the spread of Covid. Earlier, there was a flood in Kerala, and the BBC coverage was sympathetic and it showed the people there worked together with the government. It is not all dismal in India, but Kerala appears to be an exception as it is unusually educated. It could be because it has a high number of Christians. I understand the cow lynchers and rapists are in the north.
You are claiming that traditions will vanish and people will be using electric crematoria. But I read Modi is a great traditionalist and is promoting cow veneration. People are lynched for it. Where in the world do you see this ?
On Olympics, yes, everyone wants to be a doctor in India, so people don't go for sports. But Jamaica and Kenya win medals. For 1.3 billion, India's performance is dismal. Same with Nobel prizes. There are none since India became independent. Which Indian University has made it to even the top 300 ? China has several, Singapore University is up there.
Whichever metric you look at, India does not excel in any. Granted you have good cuisine, and colourful dresses, but overall India's performance is poor on most metrics. Yet, you are claiming Modi is the most powerful leader of this century. Countries like Korea, Vietnam, Malaysia, UAE, Singapore etc. keep quiet and work, and come up. India talks too much and feels entitled to great power status, just because it has a large population.
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@parthbhatt2648 ' Verna not as some privilege but more like job titles in which anybody can become anybody, But bound by birth.'
You are contradictory, your Brahmamic deviousness catches up. People can be anybody, but bound by birth !
The Indian intellectual Ambedkar denounced the Ramayana because of the abominable story of Rama beheading the untouchable Shambuka because he recited the Vedas. It was above the untouchable's station. So your statement 'Ramayana and Mahabharata don't promote caste discrimination but rather teach the opposite in flawed societies' is a lie. All Hindu texts glorify the Brahmin.
'Who has more wisdom gets more dignity. But it's universal, for example, an educated person is always taken more seriously than an illiterate one. '
The Manu code prescribes pouring molten lead into the ears of the low caste if he hears the Vedas ! Thus, the low caste can never be taken seriously because he will never be allowed education. Hindu society is the only one which promotes learning for a minority, and actively prevents learning of the majority. This Hindu code is the reason India cannot ever become developed like the west, or Russia, or China.
'Inversely if a Brahmin gets the training and becomes a soldier, he'd be a Kshatriya then, nothing wrong with that.'
Yes, Brahmin can become anything and do anything. But the outcaste does not have the same privilege. So no point citing what a Brahmin can do, or citing his privilege.
'And lastly, if you're taking the nazi route, then the actual nazis were Christian then'.
Hindu leaders like Golwalkar wrote praise of Hitler for showing race pride, and said India should mete out the same treatment to Muslims and Christians in India. His followers like Modi are carrying it out. The Hinduism you have today is an imitation of a failed and condemned German model.
You are indulging in Brahmin doublespeak - just like Vivek Ramasamy. But his Brahmanic mentality will get exposed.
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The blame game has started and that is a sign of looming defeat. But one cannot blame Zelensky alone - although as the front public figure, he will be held responsible. He is a mere puppet, his handler is the US. The US is the cause for Ukraine's catastrophe. The Ukrainians should say this. Ukraine was in trouble when it took US money and staged a coup in 2014. The US and its vassals in Europe pushed to get Ukraine into NATO. The US wanted naval and missile bases in Ukraine to threaten Russia. When Russia punched Ukraine and its handlers in 2022, initially the Russian offensive did not click, and Ukraine did much better, well beyond expectation. There was euphoria in Ukraine and amongst its handlers. They declared Russia was weak and incompetent, and would be beaten. But in 2023, the tide turned. Russia got its act together and Ukraine's progress had plateaued. In 2023, both Ukraine and its handlers were put on the back foot. The casualties took a toll on Ukraine's manpower. And the west could not ramp up production of hardware; and they had to grapple with the hit to their economies. Russia had the stamina to continue.
The Ukranians should fix the blame on the US and NATO, ask them to get out, and negotiate and repair relations with Russia. Going with the US will compound the disaster. At some stage, the US will walk away and not take responsibility and Ukraine will be in a weaker position.
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@TG-cs1rm 'we should help migrate more nationalist indians to canada'
You know what he means by that ? He means Hindu fascists who are beating up Sikhs, Muslims and Christians in India. He thinks that Hindus have seized control of UK through Sunak, who boasts about his Hinduness.
Indians, specifically the Hindus, are now a bigger threat to Canada and western countries than Russians and Chinese. The Russians and Chinese do not migrate in large numbers to other countries. Western countries need to wake up to an India run by Hindu fascists, using the cloak of a democratic system. The Hindus of today are not the same peaceable ones as the time of Nehru, Gandhi etc. In 2014, there was a sea change in India when Modi, a avowed Hindu Nazi (he belongs to a party whose members have praised Hitler) took power. Hindu militancy was in government and it spread its tentacles where new generation Hindus have settled. The Hindu who wrote the comment reflects that.
In Britain, the same new generation of Hindu migrants created a riot in Leicester by attacking Muslims of Pakistani origin.
Modi and his Hindu extremists are persecuting and killing minorities (Sikhs, Muslims and Christians) and this will create a massive refugee problem for the west. The western countries need to realise the danger and put India in its place. The Chinese have put Modi in his place with a border scuffle. The west needs to do the same.
You are right to say that Canada should reduce immigration from India. Hindus especially should be screened to see if they support the Hindu Nazi group the RSS. The US and western countries should do the same.
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@Blablablae I have no Hinduphobia. There is a certain amount of contempt for all this Hindu supremacy when you have nothing really, and you invented something as abhorrent as the caste system. Good you acknowledge India has the menace of casteism. What improvements are going on ? A better caste system ?
'Modi's development policies includes PM Jan Dhan yojana (financial inclusion), Jan awas Yojana (residential program), digital India, smart City plan, skill development, Clean India Drive & many more laws.'
Hmm - clean India ? Where ? I have seen Indians urinating in public spaces in cities.
'India has seen tremendous growth in infrastructure, science, economics, defence sector.'
I know an Indian medical doctor who had to include cow welfare to get a project.
'The BBC video about Gujarat riots showed the half reality. '
What is the other half of the reality ? Why did the govt. ban its viewing and prevent university students showing it ?
'An uneducated tea seller can reach the prime height in his career & run a nation successfully while facing the instable economy, illiteracy, global politics, China & Pakistan's invasive attacks time & again is the testament of his work. '
His access to power was through the Gujarat riot route. You know that. You half acknowledge it. He or his minions still stoke Hindu mob violence at election time - see Manipur etc. A leader who has done a lot of development does not need to do that. See Dr. Singh, Cambridge educated, urbane, achiever without show off.
Modi's support is solely based on stoking the base instincts of Hindu. There are Hindus who are intelligent enough to reject that, but you are not.
'As a proud hindu (just like UK's PM) we follow our religion/Dharm wholeheartedly which leads us to the path of righteousness.'
Anyone who supports a murderer and hatemonger and says he is righteous is stating a falsehood. Is that your religion ? For followers of murderers and rapists. Sunak is also condemnable for extolling such a person. In UK, it is not possible to instigate a riot and get elected. Sunak is a devious Hindu, following rules in UK, and extolling murderers in India due to loyalty to Hindu dharma.
'The brewing hatred among Hindu & muslim communities in India is a result of decades-old divide & rule policy of wicked Britishers which we are still facing.'
The British are not there, and you enthusiastically follow native monsters who brew hatred between communities. How come ?
'We stand against mob lynching, riots, attacks etc & hope to make our society more inclusive.'
You are lying. If you were against mob lynching, riots, attacks etc., you would not support Modi.
The end of your letter shows I got on your nerves - because I showed exactly why India is third world and will remain so. It will never shed its diabolical caste system, or penchant for mob violence. The British tried to stamp out thugees and dacoits but that is your essential character.
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@therealhakunamatata8539 The US has 36 trillion debt. The US has been living by printing the dollar - the US had an arrangement with the Gulf states to use ONLY the dollar for the international oil trade. This was maintained by military force. When Saddam and Gaddafi tried de-dollarisation (Saddam sold oil in euros, and Gaddafi floated a gold dinar), the US invaded and assassinated them. But that era is coming to an end, ironically because of the sanctions and Putin pushing for de-dollarisation. China is also pushing for de-dollarisation and the US cannot invade these countries to remove Putin and Xi. US has shifted its productive capacity overseas to China. Russia on the other hand has all its productive capacity at home, that is why it could produce everything for the war effort. It has water, land, nuclear power, metals, energy, minerals, it is the largest producer of wheat.
The decline is evident in the rise of 'white nationalism' and racial tensions in the US. The whites are disoriented by the US's decline. Trump is a symptom of the decline. And he will be coming back again, because of enraged whites looking for someone to arrest the decline.
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