Comments by "J Groovy" (@jgroovy1973) on "ABC News"
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- 57% oppose a wall, and Trump shut down the government over it. A majority of those in red districts along the border oppose a wall.
- The whole wall idea was never serious from the start. It was cooked-up by Trump's campaign staff to remind him to insult immigrants.
- Whether $5.6 billion or $1, for a wall or a fence, it would be a down payment on a project that will cost at least $25 billion. The initial amount is meaningless.
- Seeking asylum is legal.
- To this day, Trump employs illegals, and is being investigated for employers at his resorts hiding their names from the Secret Service.
- The violent crime rate for illegals is lower than for the general population.
- Half of illegals don't cross the border illegally. Most of the drugs come in via boats and planes.
- Where there is a drug and child slave, and cheap labor SUPPLY, there is a DEMAND that we need to deal with.
- Nobody wants open borders.
- Trump doesn't read, research, or listen to advisors. He has a well-documented history of bankruptcy. He literally said he didn't care about warnings about the rising national debt because, "I'll be gone by then". His original estimate for a wall was under $5 billion. Think it would come in under budget?
- Why shouldn't Trump have to PROVE that he can get the money from Mexico? If he was trying to get it from a bank, there's no way in hell they'd give it to him without proving he could repay it.
- We need comprehensive immigration reform. A path to citizenship, clear asylum policies, sensible border security measures, drug policy, including demand side solutions, legalized marijuana, and trade deals that INCLUDE security measures.
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A case against the wall
- What a first world problem - Trouble keeping out those who want to roof our houses and clean our motel rooms - for cheap. It's because of our wealth. It's like Rumsfeld's term - "catastrophic success", except it's not a bullshit excuse for poor war planning.
- In Israel, there's a MUCH SMALLER wall because they're beset on all sides by terrorists who want to kill Jews. We only have two political borders. The 9/11 terrorists came in legally. They boarded planes and bought box cutters legally. Geography has been good to the US.
- Spanish women are hot. If you were a bouncer at a club, you'd let them in, right?
- In Europe, you can't go a few hundred miles without being somewhere the locals speak another language. Spanish is pretty close to English, which is rooted in Latin. The US isn't on the metric system because we have the size, geography, and power to say, "Screw that. We're not changing all of those road signs". Again, "catastrophic success", but this isn't a catastrophe or a national emergency. I'd like to keep ALLIES on our borders...But keep an eye on those shady Canadians. (Seriously. Putin is building military bases up North, and Sarah Palin can see Russia from her house in Alaska).
- Currently, we have net negative immigration. More are going than coming, so good luck to Trump trying to prove we have a "national emergency". It's a busy border. It always has been, and always will be. People cross over in the morning, then cross BACK over at night. Is Trump going to SUBTRACT that lost commerce when he touts the "success" of his wall/slats/fence thing?
- To the xenophobes and fundamentalist Christians - Earth isn't 6000 years old. It's settled science. Think on a larger scale. Interbreeding is good. It breeds-out diseases. It opens the mind. That wall in Israel will eventually be torn apart by tectonic plates that don't care what you call "holy land". The human race rose long after the dinosaurs died - in Africa. Yes, we're all part black. Global warming is also settled science, so darker skin just might help the species survive.
- Don't make Carlos Santana not want to play here anymore.
- Legal weed should be part of a comprehensive immigration reform bill. They spray that crumbly, brown shit with pesticides that even Trump won't de-regulate. The "sin tax" on weed, paid by grateful potheads, would pay for his wall faster than anything we could skim from the USMCA.
- "It's no fun being an illegal alien"
- If you don't hire them, they won't come. If the government was serious about keeping "them" out, it would crack-down on the employers. Why don't they? (Money and special interests).
- Despite FOX News talking points, most illegals don't sneak in carrying cocaine, bombs, and trafficked children. Those are smuggled in boats and planes. El Chapo had his own submarine. FOX News is fear-mongering when they say Dems want open borders...I mean, open boarders...Trump has distorted the facts so much, I forget how it's really spelled. Do FACTS matter anymore?!?!
- DACA. Trump likes to say immigration should be based on merit. What the hell does he think DACA is? Oh, yeah, he doesn't read.
- Can Donald Trump at least explain what this wall will be made of and how Mexico will pay for it? Go into a bank and try to get a loan based on, "Because I need it NOW. No, I don't really have a plan, but 'believe me'. I'll pay you back".
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A case against the wall
- What a first world problem - Trouble keeping out those who want to roof our houses and clean our motel rooms - for cheap. It's because of our wealth. It's like Rumsfeld's term - "catastrophic success", except it's not a bullshit excuse for poor war planning.
- In Israel, there's a MUCH SMALLER wall because they're beset on all sides by terrorists who want to kill Jews. We only have two political borders. The 9/11 terrorists came in legally. They boarded planes and bought box cutters legally. Geography has been good to the US.
- Spanish women are hot. If you were a bouncer at a club, you'd let them in, right?
- In Europe, you can't go a few hundred miles without being somewhere the locals speak another language. Spanish is pretty close to English, which is rooted in Latin. The US isn't on the metric system because we have the size, geography, and power to say, "Screw that. We're not changing all of those road signs". Again, "catastrophic success", but this isn't a catastrophe or a national emergency. I'd like to keep ALLIES on our borders...But keep an eye on those shady Canadians. (Seriously. Putin is building military bases up North, and Sarah Palin can see Russia from her house in Alaska).
- Currently, we have net negative immigration. More are going than coming, so good luck to Trump trying to prove we have a "national emergency". It's a busy border. It always has been, and always will be. People cross over in the morning, then cross BACK over at night. Is Trump going to SUBTRACT that lost commerce when he touts the "success" of his wall/slats/fence thing?
- To the xenophobes and fundamentalist Christians - Earth isn't 6000 years old. It's settled science. Think on a larger scale. Interbreeding is good. It breeds-out diseases. It opens the mind. That wall in Israel will eventually be torn apart by tectonic plates that don't care what you call "holy land". The human race rose long after the dinosaurs died - in Africa. Yes, we're all part black. Global warming is also settled science, so darker skin just might help the species survive.
- Don't make Carlos Santana not want to play here anymore.
- Legal weed should be part of a comprehensive immigration reform bill. They spray that crumbly, brown shit with pesticides that even Trump won't de-regulate. The "sin tax" on weed, paid by grateful potheads, would pay for his wall faster than anything we could skim from the USMCA.
- "It's no fun being an illegal alien"
- If you don't hire them, they won't come. If the government was serious about keeping "them" out, it would crack-down on the employers. Why don't they? (Money and special interests).
- Despite FOX News talking points, most illegals don't sneak in carrying cocaine, bombs, and trafficked children. Those are smuggled in boats and planes. El Chapo had his own submarine. FOX News is fear-mongering when they say Dems want open borders...I mean, open boarders...Trump has distorted the facts so much, I forget how it's really spelled. Do FACTS matter anymore?!?!
- DACA. Trump likes to say immigration should be based on merit. What the hell does he think DACA is? Oh, yeah, he doesn't read.
- Can Donald Trump at least explain what this wall will be made of and how Mexico will pay for it? Go into a bank and try to get a loan based on, "Because I need it NOW. No, I don't really have a plan, but 'believe me'. I'll pay you back".
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Donald Trump...
- Inherited a plan to contain a pandemic, but chose not to use it because it was commissioned by the Obama Administration.
- Recently accused a doctor of faking a makeshift COVID ward set up in a parking garage.
- Neglected to refill medical stockpiles for 3 years.
- Mistakenly predicted that, "like a miracle," COVID would go away.
- Repeatedly falsely claimed we were "rounding the corner" on COVID.
- Pushed snake oil cures and touted an endorsement by a "doctor" who said COVID was a result of "demon sperm".
- Left states to fend for themselves, forcing them into a bidding war against each other.
- Pushed hydroxychloroquin as a cure despite virtually all experts saying it had not been proven, even as a treatment. When one of his claims was rebuked by a scientist, Trump responded, "I don't think science knows."
- Echoed the demands of domestic terrorists who planned to kidnap and hold a mock trial for the Governor of Michigan because of her COVID restrictions.
- Re-routed CDC data through the White House, where it was censored and re-worded.
- Removed the WHO's pandemic team from China months before it hit the US.
- Shamelessly politicized the disease, calling it a Democrat hoax.
- Repeatedly flouted local safety restrictions, the advice of the CDC, and his own COVID task force.
- Consistently blamed China for failing to contain COVID, but failed to contain it in the US, and failed to keep his family and White House staff from contracting it.
- Filled the COVID task force with people with more expertise in PR than medicine.
- Tried to take millions of Americans' health care away during the worst pandemic in over a hundred years.
- Made multiple false claims about how it would just go away by certain dates, and was wrong every time.
- Held many large rallies and celebrations with little to no social distancing instead of setting a good example. He removed social distance stickers from seats at at least one rally.
- Repeatedly suggested that we should slow down testing so the numbers would decrease and make him look better.
- Spread false propaganda about COVID being no worse than the flu after telling Bob Woodward that it was a vicious disease, and that "If you're the wrong person, you don't stand a chance."
- Claimed that 99% of cases were "totally harmless".
- Discouraged his supporters from listening to the medical experts.
- Repeatedly discouraged mask-wearing and ridiculed those who wore them.
- Constantly lied about the US fatality rate.
- Repeatedly lied about testing rates and how the US compared to other countries.
- Baselessly blamed Mexico for COVID spikes in the US.
- Threatened to defund public education to try and force children to go back to school before the full impact of the disease was known.
- Baselessly accused hospital staff in New York of selling Personal Protective Equipment "out the back door".
- Handled the pandemic so poorly that it crippled the economy and put 9 million people out of work, into a housing crisis, creating massive food insecurity.
- Claimed that COVID-19 was being overblown because of the US general election despite it being a world pandemic.
- Lied about Google engineers building a website to help Americans determine whether they need testing for COVID-19 and to direct them to their nearest testing site.
- Claimed to have saved 2.2 million lives by restricting travel from China, but allowed nearly 40,000 people to enter the US from China. 2.2 million was the projected death toll if we did nothing at all.
- Claimed this was something nobody thought could happen, when experts both inside and outside of the federal government sounded the alarm many times in the past decade about the potential for a severe global pandemic.
- Wondered aloud if injecting bleach or somehow shining UV light inside of the body could cure COVID.
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Trump's second 2 years won't be like the first. Dems are getting wiser to his methods, and he won't change. He recycles his old talking points. He even repeats the same New Year tweets. He lies more and more. Republican lawmakers may back him publicly, but they curse him in private, and many want their shot at challenging him in a primary for the sake of the party keeping power. The economy won't stay the same, whether it has anything to do with him or not. Our foreign enemies will pull some crap, knowing the window is closing for them to take advantage of his gullability. Enough will be enough for more and more people as he continues to be crude, offensive, and racist. His base may agree with him, but they'll still be wishing he'll just keep his mouth shut and stop giving liberals ammo. Exhaustion sets in. I don't care if you love The Apprentice, could you watch it every day for 4 years? 17 probes will be making news every other day. His base might just want to see those tax returns after all. He can't say every year is under eternal audit forever. And then, there's the Russia probe.
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