Comments by "Jackie Wu" (@jwu1950) on "Aperture"
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@arunk2710 I agree with you 100% that there is no such thing as randomness, chance, or accident. By the law of cause and effect, every cause has effects, and every effect is caused. That is exactly why we have free will. Free will is the cause of everything. For example, you cannot roll a 7 or 8 with one standard dice regardless of how you cause the dice to roll or how many times you choose to roll it. Correct ? There is no randomness possible here as far as we can understand. However, if you choose by your free will to mark all six sides of the dice as 7, or 8, you can now roll the dice whatever way you choose or as many times as you choose, and the result will always be 7, or 8, accordingly. You cannot roll anything but 7 or 8. You see ? That is how your free will determine the results of the dice rolling. As they say, "God does not play dice." Everything is caused and created by our free will, even God.
May the love and the peace of Jesus be with us.
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@KEvronista On second thought, I am going to teach you truth and time.
Truth is what one believe is true. When we saw on YT American girl, Eileen Gu, won a gold medal for China in the Beijing Winter Olympic, we believed it was the truth. When we heard Donald Trump won the 2020 US presidential election, we knew that was a lie and we believed that is not true. But we also believed Donald Trump did not lose the 2020 US presidential election either, because he has not accepted that lost as true, even as of today. Therefore, truth is always subjective, always transitional, and always circumstantial, never objective, never permanent, and never absolute.
Time, like God, or like gravity, is metaphysical, unobservable, and unknowable by humans. No human knows what time is, what God is, or what gravity is. Period. We humans can only believe it is true that time exists, God exists, and gravity exists, based on logic applied towards verifiable facts like the ticking of a clock, the universe, and the apple falling on Newton`s head, respectively.
May the love and the peace of Jesus be with us.
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@arunk2710 You don't have to be sorry. I never said I believe God has no free will, or that God has free will. As a matter of fact, I alternate between and among {partially one way or the other) those choices of beliefs, depending on the circumstances, necessity, and appropriateness. It is all at my control, and my control only. That is my free will.
Necessity and fate are both hind sights. Our free will, our choice, dictates the necessity and fate of our future. If you choose a standard six sided dice, your fate will not contain any 7 or 8. Whereas if you choose to mark your six sided dice 7, or 8 on all sides, your fate will contain only 7's or 8's according to your choice, by necessity. It's all up to you, in your control, and it's your free will.
There is no uncaused event because the word "event" implies cause and effect. As far as we humans can understand, everything is caused, including God. However, we humans can only understand so little it is not even funny. For example, is God caused or uncaused ? We humans don't and can't understand. Is gravity caused or uncaused ? We humans don't and can't understand. Is time caused or uncaused ? We humans don't and can't understand. It is therefore ridiculous for us humans to believe everything is caused, or that everything is uncaused. It is however entirely up to each one of us to choose to believe whether everything is caused or uncaused. That's our free will. It is even our free will to choose one way this time and another way another time, depending on the circumstances, necessity, and appropriateness.
Influences of the past do not dictate the future; our free will does. For example, we have the free will to mark over a standard six sided dice of the past with 7 or 8 on all sides, and that would determine the outcome of all our future rolls of the dice. That's how our free will determines all necessity and fate of our future. Determinism is the result of exercising our free will (or the necessary events, the necessary effects, of our free will). Our free will is the cause of everything. We are in full control of everything.
May the love and the peace of Jesus be with us.
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@arunk2710 I agree with you 100% everything in the past influences the present and the future. But influences do not dictate or decide the future; our free will does. It is an illusion that everything in the past controls the future. Our choice by exercising our free will is the determining cause that dictates the future. The standard six sided dice and all the experiences we have in the past regarding the results of rolling it influence our decision on what to expect from our next roll, namely 1,2,3,4,5, or 6 and never 7 or 8. Correct ? However, do not forget that before we roll the dice, if we change all six sides into 7 or 8, we will for certain roll 7 or 8 accordingly, and never the other numbers. The six sided dice and all our experiences in the past regarding the results of rolling it still influence the future result of our next roll, but the result of the roll is determined by how we mark the sides of the dice. That decision, that choice, is totally in our control, in our exercising our free will.
You mentioned "True" definition of free will. Do you understand what truth is ? Simply put, truth is what one believes is true, or what one chooses to believe is true, or what ones free will decides is true. Truth is therefore always subjective, always temporary or transient, and always circumstantial or situational. There is no objective truth, no permanent or unchanging truth, and no absolute or unconditional truth. In other words, truth is but a choice we make by exercising our free will at the moment for the moment.
I will watch the video you suggested later and will reply to you of my opinion. Before I do that, I have a feeling that it is nothing more than what another person had chosen to believe is true at the moment for the moment but not necessarily what that person may choose to believe at another moment in time or under another circumstances.
May the love and the peace of Jesus be with us.
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@arunk2710 Now that I have viewed the video you suggested, here are some of my observations:
This woman obviously believes science equals truth. That is an illusion. Science is a belief. Science must be falsifiable or else it is not science but dogma. What is a belief ? A belief is a choice by exercising our free will.
This woman believes in "knowledge". Knowledge is an illusion. We humans know nothing. We humans live by our beliefs, not our knowledge because knowledge we humans have none. There is no way we humans can know the future because the future has not occurred yet. No human can know the past because the past is no longer here to be validated. We humans can only believe in what we observed in the past and try to believe we can predict the future. But all our observations are illusions. What we humans can observe is not real; what is real we humans cannot observe. For example, we can observe an apple, but we cannot observe the molecules, the DNA, or the life in the apple that made the apply a real apple and not just an image of an apple.
This woman is confused regarding what are facts and what are imaginations. Free will is a verifiable fact which she has mistaken as a non-existent illusion, whereas responsibility is an imagination she has mistaken as a fact. By the law of cause and effect, every effect is caused and every cause has effects. No doubt there are consequences with every choice we make by exercising our free will. But consequences are not responsibilities. Consequence is a factual or scientific term, whereas responsibility is a legal or opinionated term. Choosing by our free will to kill someone may end up with the consequence of someone got killed, but who is responsible depends on many factors and circumstances at different time. If someone is held responsible as a consequence, that judgement is merely the free will, opinion, and choice of the judge or jury. It remains true, however, that if there is no free will, there cannot be assigned any responsibility.
This woman believes morality is objective, permanent, and absolute. She is totally out to lunch. Morality is like truth, always subjective, always temporary or transient, and always circumstantial or situational.
May the love and the peace of Jesus be with us.
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@arunk2710 You wrote, "I guess you can't recognize what is real and what is not real most of the time." Exactly, we humans know nothing, in particular what is real and what is not real. We believe we saw an apple when we saw an image of an apple. We never were able to examine the molecules, the DNA, the life of that image of an apple that made that apple a real apple and not just an image of an apple, before we concluded without question that we saw a real apple. The same goes with all our observations which formed the bases of what we called science. Therefore, science is merely a belief, a falsifiable belief. We believe a scientific theory is true only before it is falsified or proven to be not true. In time, all scientific theories will be proven to be not true and not real because we humans cannot and will never know what is real and what is not real. We humans can only make beliefs. For example, most if not all scientists in the world at one time believed the earth is flat and the sun rises in the east and sets in the west on a routine bases because that is the only logical explanation based on what we could observe at the time. Today, most if not all scientists in the world believed the earth is a globe and it rotates on its axis and revolves around the sun. So, do the scientists of the past know the truth or what is real ? No. What about the scientists today, do they know what is true ? Yes, they do based on their logic applied towards their observations. But do they know their observations are real ? No. No human can observe the metaphysical, true and real reality. They just form their beliefs based on the 3D illusions that is the limit of their observations. We humans cannot observe any "events" outside of our 3D, physical universe which is merely an illusion of what is metaphysically true and real. Even within our 3D physical universe, we humans can observe so little it is not even funny. For example, what are the events happening in galaxies billions of light years away from earth we cannot observe now. We need to wait billions of years for the light from these galaxies to reach earth before we can take a still picture of these galaxies, only if they are still there. Many of them probably would have blown up and not exist a long, long time before then.
You wrote, "Free Will cannot exist where events have causes." Wrong. Free will exists and the free will we exercise is one of the infinite number of causes that result in every event and every thing.
You wrote, "I don't know if you'll ever find out what's real in the future." Exactly. We humans will never find out what is real in the future. We humans can only believe in what we believe in. What we believed in can be logical based on facts or our observations, or they can be blind. The woman in that video have blind faith in what she thought is science.
You wrote, "If everything in the past doesn't influence and dictate the future, what influenced your decision to keep replying to my comments?" What ??? When did I say the past does not influence the future ? I said just the opposite of that, namely, I wrote, "I agree with you 100% everything in the past influences the present and the future. But influences do not dictate or decide the future; our free will does. It is an illusion that everything in the past controls the future. Our choice by exercising our free will is the determining cause that dictates the future."
You wrote, "What makes you 'you' at any point?
You are the product of everything that has ever happened in the past." Exactly. Everything including all the choices made by people, like my parents, by exercising their free will. The future will also be dependent on my choice as I exercise my free will. Whether I choose a standard six sided dice or one that is marked 7 or 8 on all sides will not only influence but dictate what is going to happen in my future rolls. That is my free will and it is in my control.
You wrote, "Every atom in your body, it's position at any point is influenced by the past." I agree. But influences do not dictate the future; my free will does. Besides, what is an atom ? Do you know ? No, you don't know what atoms are, what are they made of, or what are all the causes that dictate how the atom act and react to everything else. You can have a scientific theory of an atom, but that is merely a belief, a blind faith that we humans have not and cannot validate.
You wrote, "Science is not just a belief. It's a system we use to figure out what's real and what's not real.
That system is always evolving." Exactly. Science is constantly changing because we humans do not, will not, and cannot know what is real.
Please read my statement here and tell me about your opinion on whether it is a correct statement or an error: Metaphysics is the foundation of science. Every scientific theory is in essence metaphysical. Sciences without metaphysics is not science but hollow and meaningless materialism. Metaphysics is beyond physics and beyond the observations capable of humans. For example, no human knows what God is, what gravity is, or what time is because these are all metaphysical entities which we humans cannot observe. We humans can only observe the effects which we believed were caused by these metaphysical entities respectively or collectively which are also beyond our human ability to observe and validate.
May the love and the peace of Jesus be with us.
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