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Comments by "starventure" (@starventure) on "The Simulation Hypothesis is Pseudoscience" video.
“Never allow the Karens to discover that they are really just NPCs”.
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What do higher order or hierarchy beings do for self gratification? The Jews say that God allowed man the free will and determination to spiral out of control in the old days, and then cleaned the slate a few times in the form of Sodom and Gomorrah and the flood. Did he take joy in it, in the same way a boy playing GTAV runs over pedestrians and shoots cops and giggles over it because simulations are funny? No one on our level can know this. The same could be said about war, disease, violence etc in the sense that if a higher order is pulling the joystick on our existence, they may well be having so much fun watching us die in stupid ways or commit ugly actions that they don’t recognize the moral pain they are causing. God may well be a teenager playing a multidimensional Xbox.
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Look around you. All the Karens in the world are NPCs. See?
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@danielpaulson8838 I believe in the Easter bunny (It’s a warm and cuddly hopping mammal, ok?) Does that count me as religious?
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Colors to the blind, sound to the deaf, a reality to an artificial intelligence that has no peripheral inputs accessories. The only difference is that one computer is made of materials of varying conductivity, capacitance and inductance while the other is made of organic molecules in a specific structure and function.
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@johnatyoutube Wild thought...can the simulation simulate a simulator that is trying to simulate the original simulation. Reality cubed.
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The matter of free will and value of existence would be subject to debate then, wouldn’t it? A NPC character in a in some grandiose simulation (like ours) would be granted the impression of choice and free will and be able to run through life happily while an individual who is representing the “higher power” programmer or user would be truly able to flout the rules of our reality because they are not like the rest. Who is pulling YOUR strings?
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Impossible to know since if one reality is a simulation than they all are, regardless of hierarchy. “Who dreams the dreamers?”
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@campyc40 The simulation doesn’t make errors then. Crafty machine isn’t it?
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If we are characters in a sim, how can we tell who is being played and who is an NPC? Somehow I sense all the Karens of this reality are NPC but there are more than just them. If that is true though, then who is hacked?
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@victos-vertex The majority of consciousness in human beings on our planet is mostly being run on autopilot. Simple minds ask for simple things in life, so it would not be a challenge for a simulation computer to handle. What would place a strain on a simulation is the artificial consciousness that starts to analyze its own surroundings and nature, using observation and experimentation to attempt to gauge the “matrix” if you will. In other words, critical thinkers would use up the most computational resources in a simulation. Scientists don’t just have to have higher brain function...they would have to BE higher brain function in a simulation.
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It just is.
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Any system that suddenly gains self awareness could be destroyed by its operator if it threatens the safety of the operator. Perhaps if the operator in that higher universe you mention will one day mistake us and other civilizations to be a golem of their own making and shut us down using the rules of our reality (Big Rip, Supernova, gravitational singularity, errant asteroid, etc) and get up to go make a coffee.
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TBQH, it would not be that difficult to simulate our species, because if you look at us in terms of intellectual demographics the individuals of superior intelligence (who would place the most strain on the simulating computer) are few in number. The overwhelming majority of the species are literal NPCs who of the “eat, work, sleep, procreate, consume” variety that don’t need too many flip flops of a logic circuit to fathom. Guys like Einstein or Maxwell or Hawking however, would have been a simulating computer’s worst nightmare come to life-code.
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@jamestheotherone742 There is a fine line between genius and insanity, someone was once quoted as saying...
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@johnatyoutube Tron was just a computer chip rehash of Fantastic Voyage, wasn’t it?
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@johnatyoutube So, a bit like the idea of consciousness downloading from the dying?
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@kyleyjs So, the most seemingly simplistic of thoughts are created by a complex process?
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If one of them hacked the system or discovered an exploit or glitch in our reality, then magic would be real and the whole worldview would change. Magic isn’t real, no matter how fun it is to imagine it is.
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@jyjjy7 But what if all of our science and technology is just part of the simulation?
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I’m not sold on that. It may not be a computation in the mathematical sense or programming sense but there should be a genetic cause for the varying levels of consciousness in different species. This is still being researched and more time is required to get the final word on the nature of how it all works. It may not be possible yet to simulate the genetics behind consciousness yet, but that does not mean that it will not happen in the future.
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If one runs Windows on a Mac using Wineskin instead of Bootcamp, does that mean they really have a Windows PC or just a simulation of one?
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