Comments by "KesArt" (@kesart8378) on "Pelosi says "there's an agreement to be reached" with Manchin on Build Back Better" video.
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@mariar2651 Thank you for the civil manner in which you presented your thesis.
However, your points have been thoroughly debunked in so many venues that I find myself a bit embarrassed that you are banging a drum long broken and discarded.
The changes in voting methodology were inarguably necessary given that America--and the world--was in the throes of the first wave of the pandemic and a failure to make healthful accommodations to how Americans vote would have constituted criminal negligence. Health concerns, not darkly sinister political machinations, prompted the changes.
As for the legality of said changes, sixty plus court challenges found no merit to any of the allegations that you raise. That reality, in addition to the fact that the Supervisors of Elections in all fifty American states--a goodly number dominated by Republican legislatures--certified their states' elections should have put this matter to bed...but apparently not for some doggedly persistent folk.
As for the issue of Russian interference--are we really still litigating the 2016 election?--all components of America's alphabet soup intelligence community--FBI, CIA, NSA--as well as the Director of National Intelligence, agreed that Russian agents had succeeded in intruding electronically into the American 2016 election--and for the purpose of tilting the election to Trump.
Regarding the fantasy that then Vice President Joe Biden interfered in Ukrainian politics in order to secure a position with Burisma for his son, Hunter, this matter, too, has been exhaustively investigated, both by the press, foreign and domestic, and by the U.S. intelligence agencies, and found to be without merit. Yes, Hunter Biden is an opportunistic charlatan and all-round gobsh**e, but those self evident facts aside, Biden forced the firing of a corrupt, pro-Putin, Ukrainian prosecutor with the full support--and urging--of America's UK and European allies, none of whom gave a tinker's damn about Hunter Biden's job prospects.
So while I very much appreciate your civility and decency, I must admit to a measure of disappointment at the dredging up of tired, meritless talking points that are rooted in a belief in grand conspiracies, conspiracies that sprang from the minds of partisan political operatives, only to wither in the light of day.
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@tcjohnson3437 Again, with respect, America, at present, has two distinctly different information eco- systems and supporters/partisans exist in grand numbers for both.
Unfortunately, the two systems diverge considerably in what they present as reality and what they consider to be the truth. And, regrettably, far too many of their partisans lack the skills necessary to apply analytical and critical thinking to the data that they receive--and passively consume--from their favoured news purveyor.
While I appreciate passion, your posts exude a good deal of anger, anger that prohibits lucid reasoning and disdains rational debate. But it does have an affection for baseless accusations and dismissiveness toward those not of your faith, or political stripe...and it raises the question of why you choose to engage with those whom you disagree profoundly when you come to the debate with closed ears (and mind?).
So thanks for the kind closing; I, in return, wish that you and those dear to you will weather these parlous times in safety and good health.
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