Comments by "MortalClown" (@mortalclown3812) on "COURT TV" channel.

  1. Long ago, a 9 year-old girl went missing in our hometown. Her body was found not far from our house. It changed our lives. To me and my 4 younger sisters, nothing felt safe after that. Decades passed before DNA solved the case. It turned out that her killer was actually someone who'd never been on police radar. Two years after the killing, he had committed suicide because, it was believed, that he felt law enforcement was getting close to arresting him. By then, her parents had already passed away, but her brother was still alive to get the news. Now, I hope Abby and Libby's families won't have to wait that long for justice. Rest in peace, Debbie Randall. Extra angels of comfort to those who loved you. ✨️💙
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  2. We owe James Owens a debt of gratitude: he represented Sarah and, by doing so, obliterated her best chance at having her conviction overturned on appeal.
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  3. This should send her to prison for decades.
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  4. This might be the guy who makes Nancy Grace go full Rumplestiltskin.
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  5. Her attorney calling him an 'animal' is wholly despicable. This guy's not helping his case. Hoping this video is admitted.
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  6. The intentional distress was evident and the shocking part. I'm just so sorry for what happened to their family.
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  7. It's a drag that race is an issue here: it's clearly about abuse - and it's vital that both violent women be held to account for their behavior. Calling the victim an animal is reprehensible.
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  8. Full justice for Christian.
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  9. In the immortal words of Tina Turner... BOOM shakalaka BOOM shakalaka
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  10. Praying he gets convicted this time. He's gotten away with these rapes for too long. Period.
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  11. I'd like to know the dog is ok, too, tbh. 🐾❤️
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  12. I'm glad the judge is allowing the evidence. Not doing so would be the equivalent of complaining about using fingerprints many decades ago - and defense attorneys did just that. This is one of those cases that, if law enforcement wasn't absolutely sure they had the right guy, every LEO in the different agencies would still be hunting the 'real killer' 24/7. Justice for the Moscow Four
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  13. Fred Tokars died in federal prison a few years ago. He'd been in a wheelchair for over a decade, suffering from a neurological disease. His son Mike died at the age of 31 from a pulmonary embolism. Rest in peace, Mike.
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  14. If the death was reversed, I can only imagine how different these proceedings would have been. Hoping he gets justice soon.
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  15. Fwiw, as an actual DV survivor, I have followed this case closely. I believe that the jury got it right. And I want to say this for anyone in that situation - when DV is truly happening. Thanks in advance for your forbearance in reading this... I owe my life to a cop. I was in the ER getting stitches on top of my head from where my husband had hit me with a ceramic lamp. (I also had bruises of all colors from head to toe. It's as if I saw them for the first time thru the doctor's, nurses' and that cop's eyes.) That officer told me what he'd seen in 15+ years of law enforcement and said that if I didn't leave, then my family would end up identifying my body. As crazy as it seems, somehow, through the pain, alcoholism and three years of denial about the level of violence I faced almost daily, I STILL thought I could change things and stayed. Two months later, my husband shot at me with a .22 rifle: I heard the bullet whiz past my left ear. I left and phoned the number that LEO had given me. But my husband's next wife was not as fortunate. She was found beaten into a vegetative state. She regained consciousness two years later and then died the next year without being able to recognize her own sons. And he was never convicted for her death. His young sons' lives were shattered. Hoping that the jury sends a message to those who think they can manufacture DV as an excuse to *ill people. Fgs, if this is happening to you - leave! And this goes for women and men. There are ways to protect yourself against violence. Lastly, I did find and thank that cop after I got sober and was working in a career I had only dreamed of. No one has to go thru it alone. Take care, friends.
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  16. Almost everyone.
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  17. Matt Johnson is a terrific reporter - old school. Props. Crazy = DA's office denying there's an investigation when the DA himself wrote to the FBI to ask that they transfer that very investigation to another state. It would be funny if justice wasn't in peril.
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  18. I know it's unseemly to be rooting so strongly for anyone's conviction like I am in the Kouri Richins case. On the other hand, I'm not in the Utah jury pool. Yesterday, I heard an interview, tho, describing how well Eric's sons are doing: they're with family and near their best friends.
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  19. Wish they had this much evidence against Shanna Gardner and Wendi Adelson.
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  20. These are the most unimaginable acts. I'm sorry for those who lost her and loved her. This is on the foster system, too.
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  21. She's lying about the foster care thing... and she's furious. Barely uncontained rage. Interesting to see. May justice - and karma - roll down.
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  22. When I was 12 - a half century ago - I called DFCS about what was happening to my best friend's little brother. They listened to me, but the mom was so furious that they visited her, things only got worse. My guilt was tremendous. His life ended up being tragic in so many ways. He was in jail and prison for decades. None of his crimes were violent, which was a miracle given the nature of his abuse. (He was an addict.) He died a few months ago - and his big sister and brother never saw anything wrong with how their mom treated him. (The dad looked the other way.) Now? It's not hard to imagine other abusive parents across the nation battening down the hatches to prevent their hurt kids from escaping. The things I saw as a girl have all been rushing back. My own Mom was very ill then, but we never knew anything but love. It's still so hard to believe anyone can be cruel period, much less to innocent children and animals, too. Rest in peace, Phillip.
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  23. Prior to sentencing, Judge Kraynik's colloquy will be the first time Sarah gets to hear just what a brutal tyrant she's been. The anguish she caused Jorge and his loved ones can't be undone, but maybe 25 years in prison will help his family heal.
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  24. The tedious work of forensics can't get enough props in this case. Huge, messy crime scene. Bravo/Brava.
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  25. She makes Sarah Boone seem like Miss Congeniality... and that's not even hyperbole.
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  26. Ah, Donna, but this isn't the insane part. (1:55) What's insane is that it's taken nearly a decade to see this happen.
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  27. Barry Morphew vibes.
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  28. Awesome to give him a chance until his trial.
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  29. There are frustrations and failures in American jurisprudence, but the collective wisdom of 12 strangers tends to rise to the occasion.
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  30. Austin shows far more remorse than Monica's shown during weeks of testimony. Unlike many here, I believe that it's entirely possible for people to have real regret for the crime itself - not only for getting caught.
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  31. He's a full-on monster.
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  32. His poor Dad.... and now it's Christmas. Wish the "mom" was held accountable. May karma find her, in any case. 💔
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  33. The more we hear, the more it seems like Wendi is guilty, too. (I've always felt this way, but her text looks like proof.)
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  34. The boys will be 18 in a few years and can reclaim their real name. By then, they'll know full complicity of the Adelson family. Blessings and justice to the Markels.
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  35. If they'd kill Dan, of course they would be petty enough to keep the kids away from their grandparents.
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  36. State's attorney has commending presence: we can tell he's been waiting for this day.
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  37. To those who mention her beauty: let's be more shallow. We all want justice for victims - no matter what.
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  38. The gun itself is premeditation.
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  39. In a few years, both of Dan's sons can reclaim their name. By then, hopefully they'll know the expanse of their Mom's involvement - and the rest of the family. It's hard to believe Wendi would be getting her kids any therapy for the trauma they've endured. Hope they get all the support and love they deserve.
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  40. This happened before in Missouri. Can't recall guy's name, but he made John Harper look like a choir boy. He was shot down on the main street and they never found who did it.
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  41. They're amid very delicate legal proceedings, at the core of which is unauthorized press releases. Can you see where this might not be the wisest of moves? (🤦)
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  42. Sorry to join the league of obvious commentators, but Ricky Tokars shaking and crying in the witness box was crushing... Impossible to think of doing anything to hurt any child, yet putting your own kids in this position is unfathomable. I think Fred's body turned on him the last twenty years of his life, tbh.
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  43. That long rant about the least important thing in the entire video? 🤦
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  44. You're still going to prison for the rest of your life.
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  45. I'd like to see a much longer video about this - particularly about how she prepared for the escape. (More details about it in online papers.) This is fascinating. Rooting for justice for Mo.
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  46. Dude. Saying Scott is already blaming his mom for his dad's murder is convincing for the state's case... not your own. 😂
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  47. Finally - talking about the craziness of that set. Fwiw, I've acted in film/TV for decades, using guns in different roles. Yo: the absolute last thing anyone on a set would expect would be a live round. Period. It's unheard of. It's also weird that more actors aren't making this point. Imo, Alec has been overcharged - at least in a criminal capacity. As a producer, however, I'm pretty sure he'd be culpable in the civil trial. Hoping Halyna's family gets full justice in both criminal and civil court. Rest in paradise, Halyna ✨️
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  48. Same for Jeffrey Lacasse in the wake of his relationship with Wendi Adelson.
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  49. MAGA's definitely not sending their best. Rest in peace, Josh.
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  50. Vinnie, Sarah has spoken at plenty of her court appearances. She's usually petulant and sarcastic. It'll be interesting to see how she holds up under cross-examination. (That rapid blinking and clenched jaw in this one seemed like stress.)
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  51. Guilty verdict returned on Saturday after 22 minutes of deliberations. Ackerman sentenced to 45 years. Ruining so many lives.
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  52. It takes about a month to extradite. She won't win this fight and is trying to delay the inevitable. Her parents have hired the best criminal defense attorney in Jacksonville, fwiw. But I don't even think he'll be effective against the case they have based on Henry Tenon's testimony. They're trying her with her husband: he has a public defender. This ought to be very interesting - seeing if he'll agree to testify against her in exchange for the death penalty to be taken off of the table.
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  53. To those she will examine/cross examine on the stand, don't look at her face and don't give her the gift of your visible outrage. Same for those who love Charles and are in the courtroom. Mighty angels to you all.
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  54. Their neighbor Jamie gave powerful testimony for the state on Friday: the defense was in over his head. The judge, to the dismay of a few, let Jamie control the narrative. Hope that Jordan is convicted of murder and not a lesser charge.
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  55. He was at over twice the legal limit for driving. But that's beside the point that, imo, she's guilty of second-degree murder.
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  56. Underrated comment, bro.
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  57. ​ @rickjames5998  Going full Karen and being that petty takes skill.
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  58. He's done more to help humans than folks can even imagine: this includes putting his life on the line daily. What's embarrassing are sofa ninjas w/Dunning-Kruger effect to the marrow.
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  59. Parents who don't care + guns in America. Nightmare in our society.
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  60. He had a right to object, but was way over the top. He also called Jorge a monster in his closing arguments. No need for that invective: it hurt his client.
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  61. Juries have a tendency to get it right. Let's hope it happens here with a guilty verdict.
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  62. And Markel's case and Shanna Gardner, too. Unreal to think of killing your children's father.
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  63. Please cover Rebecca Grossman.
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  64. These two podcasters are virtually the only ones I'm not embarrassed to listen to - well-spoken, intelligent, discreet and humble. (Big change from Murdaugh case.)
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  65. The judge seems informed, but I fret for anyone she faces in prison: just because someone is a prisoner doesn't mean they do not deserve protection from savagery.
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  66. Terrific witness. Hope her testimony is crucial to his conviction for Ashley's murder.
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  67. 😂 Exactly. Her exalted sense of self may impede friendships in any arena. Just because folks are in jail doesn't mean they aren't keenly aware of the decency level in others. KR - and I'm definitely prejudiced against her because I think she's guilty - oozes untrustworthiness.
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  68. Glad you posted this. Thank you for the compassionate POV. An inordinate amount of couch ninjas in the comment section are full of the usual witless assertions, but with cruel thrown in. I realize there are a few intelligent podcast sleuths, but those are rare: everyone else without legal CV guessing at the guilt of the family is unconscionable.
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  69. When they give credit for jail time when it's a life sentence. Beauty. So many victims in her wake. 💔
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  70. Hoping that the sentence reflects the severity of her crime and that the princess factor isn't at play.
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  71. It's not about having an audience. It's about a fair trial.
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  72. Fact. (Petulance is unbecoming in toddlers: in adult men, it's insufferable.) 😂
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  73. Be that as it may, Maggie didn't deserve what happened to her.
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  74. ​ @truthadvocacy Hope it's not too late for you to get help.
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  75. Reminds me of Ali Abulaban - just another abusive dude who wants pity and for the jury to suspend common sense.
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  76. Stalker. Not stocker. It makes a difference. Otherwise people putting groceries on shelves are suspect.
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  77. So do I. It's hard to understand how folks aren't seeing the evidence.
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  78. Lucky Friday the 13th for most of the people who've ever known Mr. Ferlazzo.
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  79. Imo, tough to feel for HP. She's on the biggest pity pot that exists without an iota of empathy or remorse for other humans or her behavior respectively.
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  80. Aww,Ted. Disappointed in you. Did you watch the trial? Can't believe you fell for a histrionic sociopath. Melody could've testified to all that 'truth' while she had the chance. Watch Scott's testimony.
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  81. I'm overwhelmed with sorrow and didn't even see everything the jury saw. There isn't adequate punishment... in this world.
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  82. Get used to being called a liar. That's his best trait. Hurry, justice.
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  83. You're right. Gonsalves needs more than legal help.
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  84. Her very experienced defense attorney knows better than to ask that array of questions, but they're in the deep weeds. Unfortunately, Austin was a compelling witness. In many criminal trials, the best prosecution witnesses are co-conspirators.
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  85. How can this not break anyone's heart? His life was over before he killed his mom. He was hurting animals way before - the signs were all there fgs.
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  86. It really was sad. The victim's Dad loved Brandon as a second son. No one saw this coming - or understood how it played out so monstrously. Fwiw, I don't mean to bring Nancy Grace style hyperbole to it. We lived near where it happened: guess it's impossible not to feel impact especially in a small community. Here's hoping that Aaron's loved ones find comfort in time. (And Brandon's, too.)
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  87. I think the overturned overturned conviction needs to be honored, but that's just because I think he's guilty.
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  88. Alcoholism is bad enough when folks aren't in collective denial. Yet the Murdaughs' sense of entitlement added to their cluelessness played into the worst case scenario... even beyond the boating tragedy.
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  89. Amazing to see that anyone believed her theatrical sentencing statement. The jury ruled out her son due to a few facts and she's the one who decided not to testify. Too much, too late, Melody. But we will send you one of these ---> 🎻 for the appellate court.
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  90. Yes. It'd be easy if evil wore a t-shirt.
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  91. Terrific judge. Good rulings - even one to sever, which made her lawyers happy. Yet they definitely don't need to be giddy just yet. Not at all.
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  92. "... one of two twins .." As opposed to three. Make him go away for life.
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  93. Very glad that the boys are with Eric's family, but does anyone know what kind of arrangements - if any - that they have about the boys seeing relatives on Kouri's side of the family? Can't imagine how difficult it must be since both her mom and brother insist that she's innocent, that her 'walk the dog' letter was fictive, etc. Justice is coming. Rest in peace, Eric.
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  94. She always looks angry. 😂
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  95. In a perfect world, Sarah Boone would be representing Murdaugh for his appeal.
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  96. Defense atty's breakdown could have opposite effect on jury, reminding them that little children lost their lives due to his client's behavior/choices.
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  97. Agree w/ flight risk. Without it, I think she'd have a much better chance.
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  98. Semantics at this point make no sense. Fighting for absolute justice is all that matters.
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  99. Eggert will be WH counsel any day.
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  100. I don't like when folks focus on physical traits: it's shallow. But there are times when the grotesque is seen in someone's face.
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  101. 27 zeros in octillion. Impressive results.
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  102. It's an extrajudicial killing: he knew exactly what he was doing. Although their crimes are different, Stines has much in common with the likes of Kevin Menon, Jamey Noel, and Sean Grayson. None of them deserve to be in free society for differing lengths of time.
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  103. In the Lori Vallow case, the death penalty was taken off of the table because the state wasn't timely with disclosure.
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  104. I hope her health holds up. She doesn't look well and I'm sure this has been tougher than 99% of us can even imagine. May justice rain down on all of the Adelsons.
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  105. Everyone who knew them, almost without exception, believes that she did it. Fwiw, my family lives in Canton.
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  106. Lots of circumstantial evidence; her testimony was a disaster; leaving the country pointing to consciousness of guilt and Doug Lloyd's high conviction rate make me believe a guilty verdict could happen. Fwiw, I like this D.A. It's about a guy's life and you can tell it matters to him. Juries might agree.
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  107. "... should have... ' or '... should've... '
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  108. It was always about the money.
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  109. I've been sober for 26 years and am hoping CL gets all the help she needs to recover. But I don't like her veiled threats about testifying.
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  110. Plural is 'wives'. Also important to note that 80% of DV homicides are men killing women and, in those cases, only a very small percentage of females are involved in extramarital relationships. Facts are important.
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  111. ​ @LCx829  I think she's probably alluding to the possibility of suicide. Despite comments from some hoping this very thing occurs, it's the responsibility of prison/jail officials to ensure he's delivered for trial.
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  112. Carl's channel goes after the Adelsons like no one else... and he's got facts lined up. I've learned as much from him as anyone. Props for due diligence.
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  113. Donna taking the papers from the undercover cop was one of the most chilling parts is this: she didn't bat an eye, knowing full well that her son set up a hit. What a horrific thing to take your grandchildren's father.
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  114. Oh, I'm so sorry that you had to experience such unimaginable pain and loss. I realize I'm a stranger and hope this doesn't sound corny, but I'm asking extra angels of comfort to surround you always. (It's not about religion: after an NDE, in which I saw light beings, they've just been important.) Paz y luz
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  115. It does seem disingenuous at best.
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  116. The prosecution is absolutely presenting a formidable argument - especially since there is case law about suppressed inculpatory material. If anything the defense is doing the straw grasping.
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  117. I can't remember caring less about 2 people in a court case, but I think she murdered him.
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  118. Tbh, Dan and Wendi were both insufferable jerks about the divorce. Deifying Dan is beside the point, BUT...I'll happily demonize the Adelsons. The idea of their entire evil family plotting his death is too horrific to imagine. The kids will be 18 in a few years and can reclaim their real name.
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  119. He acts like that even with those whose reputations are impeccable. Over the top with the hostility.
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  120. Vs Jennifer's assertions which are so pro-DA, it's embarrassing.
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  121. ​ @cwilliams7955  I don't like when anyone yells.
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  122. Good point. Psychopathy is beyond this layperson's understanding. Hurry, justice.
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  123. Good Lord. 😂 It's a criminal trial. Everyone deserves a skilled defense attorney. Throwing the lawyers in with the (alleged) killers is disingenuous at best.
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  124. So glad to see your post. I feel the same. When Jennifer said she wouldn't do anything differently, it took my breath away. And I realize there are too many children with parents who don't show up, J and J didn’t even try. Plus, imo, guns are a horrific aspect of American life - treated too casually. Hard not to connect them with a decided lack of soul. (Churchgoing NRA members are a case in point.) Peace.
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  125. Cat in the Hat
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  126. Read a book, for goodness sake. Life isn't Court TV. ☺️
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  127. Given the number of people who wish for justice to rain down on her, that's saying quite a bit.
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  128. Why mention the juror's gender? Bro. Focus.
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  129. The majority feel otherwise.
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  130. Karen has entered the chat.
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  131. Wrong.
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  132. I like your Granddaddy. ❤
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  133. Technically, she's probably more of a sociopath: they have/show emotions. Psychopaths do not. But, yeah. She's something else. Blessings to her sons.
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  134. The boys will be 18 soon and can reclaim their name. By then, they'll know the full truth of the Adelsons' complicity in their Dad's murder.
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  135. Oh. No.
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  136. ​ @acc4465  You've certainly chosen a three-legged horse to bet on... Her attempt to set up Jeffrey Lacasse for Dan's murder alone - and there are texts to back up this accusation - is proof of her complicity in the plot.
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  137. He definitely looks worse for wear, but there could be myriad reasons for that. He did tell his wife - multiple times - in a single phone call that he is guilty. It also looks like him in the bridge video. I'm absolutely not saying that these are proof, but equal weight needs to be given to inculpatory evidence well as exculpatory. Seems what's most important is finding 12 jurors who aren't predisposed to any POV in advance: it'll be tough - unless they change venues.
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  138. Jeff got Telles' DNA as his last act on earth.
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  139. Seeing Magbanua as femme fatale takes more imagination than I've got.
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  140. Check your soul, bro. We're not a nation of extrajudicial killings - no matter how despicable the person. Wtf. He was still a human with a family.
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  141. Amazing that people are unable to distinguish between standing one's ground and murder.
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  142. I had no opinion when this trial began. At this point, the points of doubt are too many to count. Not sure if it's an actual conspiracy, but the prosecution seems almost vindictive and definitely closed-minded in its charging of Read. The judge's bias on behalf of the prosecution is clear, too. I'm sorry for J.O.'s family and loved ones, too. The truth seems far away.
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  143. It was not about getting him back. She was just being a pain about custody: she resented the inconvenience and it seemed to be about ego, too. Man, I can't wait for her to be flown to Jacksonville.
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  144. She won't.
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  145. The timing of the last five shots and nature of the wounds - from behind, when Violette was on the ground, clearly disabled - should be grounds for conviction.
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  146. I find him credible and wonder if shock plays into an inability to have recall. He also gambled a lot: I'm unfamiliar with that mindset.
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  147. They will not throw rose petals on Zachary in prison... not even the pretend kind.
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  148. To keep things high-minded and eloquent... what a disingenuous putz.
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  149. 💯
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  150. The surgical removal of reasonable doubt. Beautiful prosecution.
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  151. He's horrific. Tough to see anything redeeming about him, but I'm still against the death penalty. It's not a deterrent - just look at Texas and Florida. But that's not why. Since I'm clearly in the minority in this comment section, I do want to add that I understand the vengeance felt towards him. But killing more... isn't how how healing happens. Rest in peace, Grizelda and precious Dominic.
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  152. It's just an opinion, of course, but Allen saying his confession is coerced seems fake and opportunis. The only way he can argue it will be if he takes the stand. Otherwise it's just something that comes out of a lawyer's mouth.
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  153. He's being afforded due process - and with the advantages of wealth, he's got the best attorneys and a head start on freedom that lasted for decades. The hyperbole of the word 'ly*ching' is despicable. He's not a hero to anyone, nor a martyr. May his victims see justice.
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  154. It's not impossible to be a talented writer and a killer. That's just not the case here.
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  155. Karens gonna Karen.
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  156. Buster, the Murdaugh son, too. Apparently, even among survivors of family annihilators, it's common to find kin siding with the accused. Denial is powerful.
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  157. Good grief, he meant to say that he's a 'proponent', not a 'component' of rights. At least try to learn the proper terminology - especially if you're an attorney.
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  158. I'm so sorry this happened to your family. Extra angels of comfort to you forever.
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  159. Crow = incel + Dunning-Kruger at DSM-5 level.
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  160. A journalist at his arraignment said that Heuermann was calm during the process - no visible emotion. Guess the tears were in a note.
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  161. Hope she's sober now. I've been sober and grateful for 26 years. Paz y luz, all.
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  162. It actually is. This links directly to him vs previous DNA being tied to his dad. Paying even a little attention helps.
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  163. It's about getting justice for a human life. But, by all means, Karen to your heart's content.
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  164. Seems legit to ask for phone records.
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  165. They usually poll the jurors, too, but don't understand remarks about no words between him and his attorneys.
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  166. Love Matt and Cody. ✨️
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  167. If Mika had been plain, would Court TV still cover her case? Mentioning that Mika was beautiful seems unnecessary. She's lost to the world - and in tragic, mysterious circumstances. Kindly let shallow adjectives be the stuff of commenters - not anchors.
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  168. Apparently not. Deliberated for 12+ hours, defense put up confusing and inadequate witnesses. Terrible summation. But she can try the appellate court: odds not good in CT for overturning.
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  169. ​@nickyb7266 Ditto. I think the ten years probation irked her and her team, too. Curious, since the judge saw her as having remorse, why he didn't use downward departure.
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  170. 😂 I get it. Court TV has become a Nancy Grace 2.0 spin-off since Vinnie started running things. They do have a couple of terrific reporters, though - ones who just bring facts without drama queen editorializing.
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  171. Not being disingenuous here, but how on earth can she disguise herself? These crimes need much harsher penalties. Keep kicking ass, C.C.
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  172. Impossible to understand the depth of his anguish. Of course his mother is behind Sebastian's absence.
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  173. ​@NoName-mv1mw Kkkomentators are mistaken: murder is different from stand your ground.
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  174. I just heard the part where he was seen dumping things in different places. If it's true, it's too important to stay a rumor.
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  175. Meadors is the bomb.
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  176. Tough to imagine how they thought her presence on the stand could help in any way. (Likely her decision, but yikes.) 😂 She's cagey, unsympathetic and stumbling over testimony less than a minute old. Justice for Robert and his loved ones.
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  177. 3:00 He's absolutely wrong that Mo would scream the name of the shooter. Please.
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  178. Where is the state closing argument?
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  179. Fwiw, I've performed in film/ TV for decades and acted with guns. The last thing anyone on set would expect would be a live round. Period. I believe Baldwin was overcharged as a player in Halyna's death. He's liable a producer for the hire, but I am unclear as to those laws. Hannah is culpable. It's not about her prop cart being a mess, but that says a lot about how seriously she didn't take her work. Rest in peace, Halyna
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  180. I hate it more when they ruin someone else's life.
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  181. God bless Melissa. May extra angels meet her on the path. I'm sober 25+ years and... but for the grace of God.
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  182. Because... snacks.
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  183. The Schadenfreude waltz being played in West Virginia.
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  184. ​ @DMSJagXK  You've chosen a long road, indeed, if you're planning to go full Karen on YT spelling and grammatical errors.
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  185. ​@Truth222-lf3lc Experts have said it's going to be tough to charge Wendi...but Donna will probably be next.
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  186. They need her testimony. A deal is inevitable.
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  187. ​ @WhiteDove73-888  The logic of her two tales makes complete sense. Betting the jury thinks so, too.
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  188. Let's see the trial, Karen.
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  189. Not really. He just has an impossible client.
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  190. She and Shanna Gardner are peas in a pod.
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  191. Still amazed folks think deleting phone info indemnifies them.
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  192. Pink Diamond it's not about you. It's about the folks involved. Study a minimum of American jurisprudence.
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  193. This. 💯
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  194. We can have all the Karen fits in the world, but it's happening and it's fair. Look, like almost everyone else, I'm over Sarah Boone, but think it's terrific that she's getting representation for her trial. I still think there's going to be appellate issues, but probably none she'll win. (Especially going with the battered spouse defense... not in this case.)
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  195. A lot of people have learned too late that those closest to them are capable of the worst: I'm not sure he believed it could happen.
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  196. So many cameras in midtown.
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  197. ​@dorothyabdul9657 Untrue. Sorry you don't know any good ones. Lots of great guys out there.
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  198. It takes about a month. She's only delaying the inevitable. We're all awaiting justice to rain down on her.
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  199. Karens gonna Karen.
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  200. That's how I feel. Those of us who have survived real DV see enough violence go unpunished for any number of reasons: it's too important an issue to be used falsely. (And that band of supporters in Free the Ballerina couture was a bit much.) Paz y luz
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  201. She's absolutely at fault in criminal capacity. No way a live round should have been on set.
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  202. Video description incorrect: Dulos didn't die in jail. (Fwiw, there are journalism graduates who could do this job impeccably. Lots of errors in reportage.)
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  203. ​ @jendee1260  Everyone in our country has the right to due process. Period.
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  204. I hoped we'd heard the last of both Crumbleys for many years, but if her attorney's right, she has every expectation of receiving an acquittal. Props to her defense, dammit.
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  205. It's right on time. Look at the legal system before assuming it's been unnecessarily delayed.
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  206. She could've testified. Her sentencing statement made Sarah Boone's seem sane and humble.
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  207. Of course she won't testify.
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  208. The evidence against her is getting more convincing.
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  209. We might be misreading that vibe. I believe Court TV's on board with the monster theory where Jaramillo is concerned. Fwiw, I'm not one of the outrage friends, generally speaking, but can't see why she hasn't been locked up for decades before this even happened. I feel sorry for the women she'll meet in prison, too. She's dangerous - with nothing to lose.
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  210. 😂 My God. It's called a 'scapegoat'. Another uninformed remark from the Dunning-Kruger brigade. Sit down, child. They didn't even show his mug shot yet. And please stop self-trepanning.
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  211. Maximum sentence is 18 months in prison. It seems a small price to pay for unconscionable acts.
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  212. She's the killer.
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  213. Embarrassing to see considering the talent that's out there.
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  214. Fgs, get a grip.
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  215. Maybe if Sue screamed a bit louder, we wouldn't need the internet for transmission.
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  216. A lot of people haven't seen it. By the way, you are aware that you're not required to watch... every single video that is in your feed, right? 😂
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  217. Arrogant.
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  218. 💯🙏
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  219. FYI. I can promise you that NO ONE on a set expected a live round. No one. Alec was overcharged but he's definitely liable civilly for hiring her and running a loose set.
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  220. Vinnie, Matt Johnson is terrific. This was landmark testimony and you elect to speak with Jeanine Driver? Please. Her grammar is pitiful, and she can't even pronounce Jeff German's name correctly. (He deserves that much.) After all, this is Court TV - not the Daily Mail. Interviewing experienced lawyers would be appropriate vs. her absurd comments about Telles. (And Karen Read, for that matter.) We can all figure out that he's lying on our own. Thank you so much. 💫
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  221. This. 💯
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  222. Anyone else hearing this just fine?
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  223. Yes, but the bloodlust of sofa ninjas is unsurpassed in YT comment sections.
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  224. Fotis Dulos 2.0
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  225. Lightning won't strike twice.
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  226. Terrific witness.
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  227. Steinbeck's coverage of the Markel murder has been epic and unrelenting. I also appreciate Surviving the Survivors as a platform for justice.
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  228. It's tough to imagine how cruel it's been to keep those boys from their grandparents. They'll be 18 in a few years and I bet they will petition to get their real name back. God bless Ruth and the rest of Dan's family. Let justice rain down.
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  229. Yikes. Shades of Leticia Stauch.
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  230. 😂😂
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  231. ​ @Danl1960  He did once. Now, more like God help America.
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  232. ​ @garylee12345 Blown away by that comment. It's incendiary and repugnant.
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  233. Her density is impressive.
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  234. All these people who know nothing of American jurisprudence posting personal preferences about something as important as the trial date. Fyi, Donna's trying to get a speedy trial, as it's her right by law. But the Dunning-Kruger is ramping up next level.
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  235. Oh noooooo 😲
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  236. They'll be 18 in a few years. I imagine the Adelsons can't hide their infamy forever. At the very least, they can reclaim their last name.
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  237. Bet you've got a lot of brown shirts in your closet.
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  238. She also tried to frame Jeffrey Lacasse, her old bf. That's the most pointed evidence that she had knowledge in advance of the murder.
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  239. Profits = prophets. Interesting juxtaposition.
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  240. They told her that her kids were OK on the way over to the police station.
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  241. ​ @purplelove3666  Calm thyself.
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  242. The jury will eat her in twelve bites.
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  243. Allowed. Yikes
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  244. No kidding.
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  245. 😂 Not really.
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  246. ​ @lovepet4565  What do you mean? Her latest stunts seem to point to the exact opposite of 'getting out'.
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  247. 86% of murder cases without bodies result in convictions. (That goes for Brad Simpson, too, we hope.)
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  248. Lieberman's comments re: the women who contacted Jeff for help were 100% false. Vinnie, please call out accusations that victim-blame - especially since these were the women who were abused/threatened by Telles in the work environment. Lieberman stated that they were 'scorned' and jealous of his attention to their co-worker. Nothing could be further from the truth. Perhaps if Lieberman faced similar accusations herself, it would be a way for her to understand how harmful untruths can be. Fwiw, I knew Jeff German: he was a friend to many and not all of his good work was for the LVRJ: he was charitable, funny, humble and had the kind of morals to which we can all aspire - rather the opposite of what Lieberman conveys.
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  249. Fifty percent of murders are never solved at all. It could be much worse.
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  250. Punished?
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  251. A most disingenuous query. It presumes that anyone who's made a series of enormous mistakes is then rendered incapable of both regret and empathy. In other words, going full Karen from a false equivalency is... ah, but more opinions aren't necessary.
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  252. A hawk who'd flown into glass and was permanently addled.
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  253. He's guilty.
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  254. Fgs, Dan is the victim. Get your facts together.
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  255. But they're always over the top with both theatrics and bias. (Julie Grant's a baby-talk version of Nancy Grace.)
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  256. "You know just as well as I do that it's exculpatory evidence... " Props to the detective.
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  257. Gothic Poet ~ Stick to poetry.
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  258. 💯
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  259. Paying attention to the matters at hand seems vital. Fwiw, if the same attorney repped Johnny Depp, folks probably wouldn't say a thing. Tsunamis of irony.
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  260. ​ @preciousgem6506  I get how you feel completely, but no need to address trolls - especially when they rank so high on the Dunning-Kruger scale. 😂 Though this isn't her trial, there is clearly compelling evidence presented here that points to her complicity. I think juries have a tendency to get it right more often than not. Here's hoping that the police and DA can put together as good a case against the rest of the Adelsons. Paz y luz.
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  261. True, but a lot more has to add up before charges are lodged for Donna and Wendi, unfortunately. They may be able to get something on Donna, but I think the greatest payback will happen years from now when Dan's sons reach their majority and realize what Wendi and the other Adelsons have done, hopefully disowning them.
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  262. Right. As his widow advocates for the death penalty for their mom. It's obvious she cares for them. (And the latter comment is definitely facetious.) All the Nancy Grace level self-righteousness is pretty grotesque. (I hope Mario pleads and brings evidence against Shanna.)
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  263. Great anchor. Can we keep her? (Versus the coffee klatch variety.) Merci.
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  264. The trial has been going on for weeks: the state's presented enormous amounts of evidence, but by all means, jump in and assume this is all they've got against her. Man. What a tsunami of Karens in this comment section.
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  265. You're a rare breed. Congratulations... and I'm being sincere. Since YT isn't a jury, I just appreciate when people are civil - and don't mangle the language too badly. (And I feel strongly that the right person is on trial.)
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  266. At what point in the process was Sydney supposed to grow a conscience and do everything you suggest? At least we can try to be realistic. Her defense attorneys have something to say in it all, as well.
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  267. I didn't see his expression change an iota. Guess it's a pretty subjective thing.
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  268. Yes, but if commenting on YT grammar errors - on videos or the comment sections - is your task, you're going to be very busy.
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  269. Owens did a great job? Come on. When he'd make objections, he was unable to cite case law: Judge Kraynik had to prompt him to even use the correct procedures. Let's not throw garlands his way.
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  270. ​ @leeprimeau7912 Yeah. A lot of folks don't seem to understand the difference between Wendi's case and the others. We'll have to settle for karma... and it does roll. I'm disappointed as he'll, but glad white privilege finally ended here... for the most part.
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  271. You might learn a bit more about the case before victim-blaming. Undoubtedly the words of a 'Christian'. (The irony is never-ending with you guys.)
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  272. If you're going to use the word, it's "liar".
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  273. Nothing revealed about his behavior in the back of a cop car: it's all subjective.
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  274. ​ @KayDejaVu  There was blood in the photo taken after the melee.
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  275. She won't win an appeal.
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  276. ​ @sinamengirl7897  Bail hearing was 11/12. The defense did get a solid win on severing some of the other charges - the biggest one being the time Kouri allegedly poisoned Eric's sandwich. That's out. Judge agreed there was no proof. Details are online in news articles.
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  277. Recent trials prove how important presentation is. We can all jump up and down thinking we know everything, but until the state submits its case, we'd do best to read all we can. A fair trial is everything.
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  278. ​ @sula1529  Murdaugh tears.
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  279. His wife filed for divorce. I hope she and her children find a measure of peace in this hell. Extra angels to the survivors and rest in peace to the souls of the murdered women. Take care out there, everyone. We're in this together.
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  280. It happens in plenty of circumstances - especially after the advent of bodycams. 😂
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  281. He asked for a bench trial and to represent himself. She's a good judge. If he stood a chance with any of them, it'd be her.
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  282. ​ @IMO990-IJS  I don't care if he had affairs or not, but it's disingenuous to paint anyone as a devil or an angel re: infidelity. This is about murder. I believe Melody's guilty: apparently, so did a dozen of her peers after lengthy discussions. Let her appeal like every other convicted person in our system.
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  283. 😂 Best other description of her was the Cat in the Hat.
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  284. Haven't thought of 'the long arm of the law' in ages. Hoping the case resolves in justice for her for Morgan and her family. RIP ❤
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  285. I think she hit him - no idea if it was intentional - but that, so far, the commonwealth is far from proving it beyond a reasonable doubt.
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  286. They're trying it a third time.
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  287. He would be governor in FL.
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  288. Hate crimes across the spectrum have been rising since 2015. Deepest hopes justice is finally brought after all this time.
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  289. No one can say how much of her maneuvering is antics or legit legal strategy. Yes, she's a pain, but - at day's end - it's about ensuring due process. Props to the judge if he can avoid appellate issues despite her... cray.
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  290. The camera crew wouldn't/didn’t leave due to her cart.
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  291. Grateful for this. (But if the victim - in the same circumstances - had been a POC, it would be interesting to see a NC verdict.) And I'm from AL, so it's not a disingenuous remarks. Paz y luz ✨️
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  292. Karens with OCD: next episode of YT Sofa Ninjas.
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  293. ​ @pep590  Exactly. The part where she tried to set up her old boyfriend, Jeffrey Lacasse, seems to prove she was more than a mere bystander, as well.
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  294. Lol Perhaps reading a bit about what constitutes hearsay will help your understanding of the definition.
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  295. They talk about money being the root of evil, etc, but it seems evil has to be there to begin with to have it matter that much.
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  296. I think it's started getting real, i.e. prison vs jail. Tougher life at every turn.
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  297. It's in the video. Yes, it's being added to what will be presented by the prosecution.
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  298. At least out of the house.
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  299. Man, I used to be hooked on that show. 🤦 Reading this, darn it... "They pull you back in again..." 😂
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  300. Vibes are weird that way. When she smiled during opening statements, it was the worst of looks.
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  301. ​ @kateashby3066  Agree. And juries have a way of seeing the truth.
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  302. This would seem like a comedy if Kouri wasn't so deadly. It doesn't help that her skills at fiction are on a par with a seventh grader.
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  303. Check video description?
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  304. ​ @bbe3034  Man. This is old school villain material. If a novel was submitted for publication w/similar plot twists, it would seem like overkill.
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  305. I'm glad the calls were admitted as evidence.
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  306. They only mentioned it since the defense said it was an alternative possibility. Court TV didn't point him out as guilty.
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  307. Best two attorneys re: the Markel case. Props to both for great info. It's complicated - and we all want justice for Dan.
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  308. ​ @January.  Perhaps, but shrieking in caps like an unhinged Strunk and White groupie is far more concerning.
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  309. It makes a conviction harder to appeal. A fair trial is far more important than folks' curiosity. Ditto for Vallow-Daybell trial. No brainer if it means greater chance at sending them to prison if the evidence is strong enough.
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  310. I pray they start getting counseling away from there ----ing father, too. He's just as bad for pretending he didn't know anything about it.
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  311. Exactly. Thank you for calling him out. Tho it's not evidence to convict at all, I found the audio of his hysterical arrest to be totally disingenuous, commented by his fear of arrest, prison, etc., than any remorse or fear of his wife. RIP, Ashley
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  312. Legit question: Since when do defendants suggest who else committed the crime after confessing to it? He's owed the full measure of fairness re: investigation and due process. It sure looks like him walking on the phone recording. These are only comments. I'm not on the jury: none of us are. Justice for the children is all that matters.
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  313. Quite the opposite.
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  314. Kaitlin Armstrong has not displayed an iota of remorse or humanity... and yet he's bringing up almost biblical levels of things like atonement and rehabilitation. It's a reach, bro. What is he even saying? Yes. Our system is overloaded. She should have taken the plea deal. Murder is next level. 90 years is a lot... and it fits the cold nature of the crime.
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  315. ​ @missypuffin8985  Every hat you ever wear will be several sizes too large.
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  316. Zachary giving off bizarre 21st century Confederate incel vibes. Betting he'll try to make his own testimony part of his appellate argument. Life in prison: no parole.
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  317. I don't know that she's terribly smart, tbh.
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  318. Yeah, I liked hearing the conviction - literally - in each of their voices. Hope it resounds with GP, but realize that's doubtful. The guilty ofrarely reward us with what would be a satisfying outburst of dismay... dammit.
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  319. X 1000
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  320. It'll be a surprise if she's acquitted.
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  321. It's probably not going to happen. But one day, both boys will be wise and informed enough to realize what they all did as a unit. Hope they'll take their name back and even disown the Adelsons.
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  322. I've thought about that and wonder if the idea of a real gun - a loaded rifle pointed at her, fgs - was so alien to Tammy - a world apart from anything she was able to conceive - that anyone could want to harm her. Now we realize that she was definitely naive, but that she was actually that innocent, too. May justice find her. Peace.
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  323. Desperate people do foolish things.
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  324. No inmate should be subjected to danger, injury or extortion, but Donna's dramatic testimony isn't exactly having the effect she desires. (She seems to hear quite well and she's not out of breath.) Re: two-tier justice on display, Imagining all of the other elderly and/or infirm inmates who can't afford lawyers to get hearings for them, too.
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  325. I get it. She deserves life in prison. But not enough evidence.
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  326. Kirsten, Jared's widow, talks about loving his twins, yet supports the death penalty for their mother. To be clear, I hope Shanna is convicted at trial and serves life, but the added trauma for these kids who have already lost so much would be horrific. I don't think a jury - even one in FL - would vote to execute her. (The inequality of how capital punishment is carried out in the US is just one of the reasons I don't support it.) Here's to justice finding Shanna soon.
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  327. God has enough self-esteem not to require belief. We're all loved unconditionally... and eternally. Hundreds of thousands of NDEs are testament to a Force of Love that's all-consuming, without favorites or exception. Instead of a fictive hell, we will experience the effects of our behavior on everyone we ever meet, rippling out in the lives of others who are affected. How about that. We're really in this together, friend. Paz y luz 💫
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  328. I think you meant to comment on another trial, friend.
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  329. ​@documax123 Dunning-Kruger in these true crime video comment sections is next level.
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  330. Interesting that, although Brad supposedly has money, he's using a public defender. Wonder if their funds have been frozen to care for their minor children. RIP, Suzanne ✨️
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  331. When you turn 12, things like this won't matter as much.
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  332. 😂😂
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  333. The channel Surviving the Survivors has some great lawyer videos about 100 things Wendi has done that warrants charges. Interesting and encouraging. I think they're getting close, fwiw.
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  334. She's making up abuse. As a survivor of DV, it's infuriating to see anyone create false drama to get away with murder - literally.
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  335. Hysterical attorney at the end. What has happened with Court TV? And he can't pronounce New Caanan? Guys. Please do better.
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  336. Lol
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  337. Glad they're being tried together: this is the first I heard about it. We'll see if motions to sever succeed.
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  338. It's only the 4th leading cause of death in the state. Ok, maybe a bit of hyperbole in there, but yes - they adore their DP. Ironically, most states with a lot of 'gundamentalists' do: Texas and Oklahoma jockey for #1.
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  339. ​@lynnnelson6689 Going full Karen is so disingenuous - playing with semantics.
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  340. ​ @tamicyrusOUproud  lol no it has not. Please read facts.
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  341. The content provider isn't responsible for the ads frequency or placement: it's about YouTube.
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  342. Fwiw, I can't stand the whole MAGA subset of American beliefs, but making remarks that pertain to physical traits is just as dense. This is a murder trial.
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  343. 'Embarrassing' is down the list of words that come to mind when thinking of life in prison, tbh. Way down.
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  344. Exactly. And why so many MAGA defend him.
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  345. She agreed to it.
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  346. 100% agree
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  347. You can't even spell 'coherent'.
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  348. Vinnie, ha - the tie askew is cool. Old school journalism. And tell Matt Johnson he's terrific - best Court TV reporter, imo. Johnson's interview with Robert Telles was excellent: he maintained objectivity yet still managed to be brutal. (Find out when he can do this with DJT.)
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  349. Vinnie's response on Shanna's PR staff. 😂
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  350. ​ @karliann1 If you're going to be picky, it's '... should've taken... '.
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  351. I hope so. Juries have a way of getting it right, but these prosecutors seem like they're on the case...so far.
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  352. You might check your wording, please... Think you meant 'innocent until proven guilty'.
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  353. More people will listen if you just speak without shrieking.
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  354. Become of something called 'due process': everyone's right to a defense is Constitutionally protected. 😂
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  355. Like digging up Rip Van Winkle after his second burial.
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  356. The lawyer can't be put in the position to evoke lies: that was one possible explanation I heard based on the Ruben case in FL.
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  357. Shriek more. 🤦
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  358. 😂
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  359. It's the least important aspect of any of this. (Tattling?)
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  360. It's still up on his channel. Check Live and Video sections. He isn't the coward as some are trying to have others believe.
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  361. The same way all those people went to prison for Jan 6 when someone else instigated it? Right.
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  362. Their.
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  363. Get. A. Life.😂
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  364. Think of the other cruel parents who are battening down the hatches so their kids can't escape. A nightmare. I'm grateful and so sorry for the neighbor.
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  365. 😂
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  366. Fwiw, I'm a survivor of extreme DV. But my husband's second wife wasn't as fortunate: she didn't make it out of their relationship alive and their two very young sons lost their mom. Fwiw, a cop was a huge influence in my decision to leave. I was in ER - again - getting stitches, and he painted a picture of what life would be like if I stayed. (He'd seen the worst of DV in his 20-odd years on the force.) A few years later, after I'd built a life for myself and was in my dream career, I found him to tell him how grateful I was. Just wish that Ana had someone like that - a warning that could've made a difference. Rest in peace.
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  367. ​ @TheRight-handedStranger Great comment. 💯 Thank you for balanced remarks in a sea of emotion. Compared to a lot of other cases, this schedule is very reasonable. I'm not sure people are checking into what's involved with a complicated murder case. (Giddy, high strung reportage doesn't help either. And Court TV has too much of that lately.) Like most others, I think B.K. is guilty. But the state needs to put on the best case it can: that can't happen in rushed circumstances. Maybe I won't feel this frustrated if I stop looking at comments from people who have no notion of American jurisprudence - ones who want instant death, etc. 🤦 Take care and blessings to all.
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  368. She's conniving, but not particularly intelligent... not the best combo.
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  369. He'll write a book.
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  370. That judge's commanding baritone delivering righteous words. Yesss. Starting out on the right foot. (Biased commentary, of course.) This was the most powerful bond hearing I've seen tho I've read some scary federal ones w/terrorists etc.
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  371. ​ @sctrevor  💯
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  372. You called it.
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  373. Great comment. As a sober addict/alcoholic, it's disturbing to see folks blame chemicals for their actions vs taking any responsibility. Sure, we're likely to behave differently and sometimes in ugly ways, but the manifestation of violence resulting in death is next level: legal repercussions are required.
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  374. Batman, you may feel differently once you're in seventh grade.
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  375. ​ @Cassster  Donna's lack of compunction re: murdering her grandchildren's father puts her in the pantheon of Roman women who backed Caesars. Hoping they can at least find some kind of charge against her.
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  376. ​@princessbuttercup5928 Same. The audio was played during a news report: I'll never forget the terror and hopelessness in his voice. SB's due process is important, but - in the end - here's to Jorge Torres' loved ones getting full justice.
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  377. Ryan, lay off the self-trepanning, bruh. It's starting to smooth thy cerebral surfaces.
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  378. Judge saying what we've all been thinking.
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  379. ​ @sunnyboknow  I got news of a death from a cop and burst into tears immediately: how do you know that doesn't happen? I think Wendi is complicit, but presuming folks' reactions is disingenuous.
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  380. The kind of comment from a proud graduate of the 9th grade.
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  381. What a Karen. 100% 😂
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  382. What you want and what's legal are worlds apart, unfortunately.
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  383. Imma git me that Spir-o-Graph salon look on Monday, chicas. It must be done.
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  384. ​@Juke582 Witless appraisals notwithstanding, she's alcoholic. It's very different from what you're describing. (Like you've ever seen a DSM-5.)
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  385. It continues in corporations, religious circles, etc etc. They all close ranks.
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  386. This is horrific. All of it.
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  387. They charged her with a federal crime - murder for hire - and that's the prison they use for that federal jurisdiction.
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  388. Her appeals won't be as likely to go through this way.
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  389. He's turned into Barnum & Bailey of legal news networks. But that's what rakes in the numbers.
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  390. 😂😂
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  391. ​ @moomyung9231  The tragedy/tsunami of Dunning-Kruger in the US is next level now.
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  392. Great question. Children are the one thing that should never 'fall through the cracks'.
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  393. Court TV is the pro wrestling of legal news platforms.
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  394. I try not to be that shallow, but, man it's hard to ignore.
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  395. Why bring the gun? That says everything.
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  396. ​ @MaddHeather I hope so, Heather. This seems like a situation that requires monitoring - even though Rudy's an adult, perhaps his disability makes him eligible for oversight. Peace.
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  397. You're right. I can see the defense atty grilling Flores, but Martinez was just a jerk for the sake of being one. Tbh, I'm glad he was disbarred. Little man was a disgrace.
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  398. I sympathize with her - especially if she's not in recovery yet. Hope she can find a way to do get clean.
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  399. ​ @MrC9Oh3  If you read her other comments... yikes. Let's just say they need to make Superglue for people: some have cracks down the middle.
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  400. Both possibilities exist.
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  401. Please don't drag a loving Creator into arguments for killing.
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  402. May karma roll for that kind of judgment.
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  403. 😂
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  404. And there was no sign of dampness anywhere in the bathroom. Busted.
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  405. ​ @LearningCurves123  She sang it decades before Reba.
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  406. Good grief. It's called 'due process'. Every criminal defendant has the right to a defense.
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  407. ​ @16MedicRN  J No. That's not what 'alibi' means.😂
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  408. TDS much? 🤣 Harris/Walz will win. 💙🇺🇸
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  409. Sean did this himself. With that many victims, it's only surprising that it hasn't happened sooner.
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  410. I'm a female survivor of DV and totally agree. It's disingenuous to suggest it never happens to men. It's about violence and I'm all for equal prosecutions.
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  411. 💯🙏
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  412. Karin, agree. These cases are magnets for outrage junkies. Many are bubbling over with hypercritical traits - and a large percentage of them are miserable, externalizing negative emotions to avoid, well, 'inner work'. The wide open sea of anonymous platforms to spew allows the pattern to continue indefinitely. The irony train is never late.
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  413. Crazy that Shanna Gardner thought a nearly identical scenario would work in killing Jared Bridegan.
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  414. Both sides acted like jerks during the divorce: no one gets deified. But the abject evil of Wendi, Charlie and the rest of the Adelsons need the full measure of justice. It's rare to see this much psychopathy united to hurt so many. May Charlie's downfall just be the beginning of their end. (Fwiw, I know I'm a minority in the comment section - perhaps everywhere - but I'm still against the death penalty.)
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  415. ​@kittencatlover156 Always good to see Karens well-represented in the comments.
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  416. ​ @vsbaretummysugastonguetech1540  They all deserve fair trials. Finish 5th grade before commenting.
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  417. ​ @brihaver1951 😂
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  418. Michael Ayala is terrific.
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  419. ​ @AngelGonzalez-pd4cn  You and Ryan will be very happy together 😂
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  420. Yes, they did, after the initial exam was too cursory, deemed incomplete. Kind of amazed that Chad didn't have her cremated. Btw, case timeline's in various online articles. Nate Eaton's channel, too, fwiw. (Local TV stations don't require subscription.)
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  421. She's a perfect example of Dunning-Kruger effect.
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  422. As if they are not equally capable of it? Read up on what SA is about. ... and why awful men like Andrew Tate are more popular than ever these days.
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  423. Did you see/read the trial? It was hardly beyond a reasonable doubt.
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  424. It's the overall effect of logged evidence. No one's assuming this particular item makes him the killer.
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  425. ​ @tinaschultz1976  😂 Taking up for racists is extra level disingenuous. My God.
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  426. 'Through". Fwiw, people have always discussed trials - before, during and after adjudication. Basic.
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  427. It was on the screen for the entire video.
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  428. It bears noting that 80% of DV homicides are men killing women, with only a very small percentage of those females involved in extramarital/secondary relationships.
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  429. Next level density: she didn't realize she was a suspect from the very beginning. Monica may even have hopes of acquittal.
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  430. You know no such thing. Old biddy gossip. 🤦
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  431. But juries in GA don't bat an eye putting POC on death row. Marietta is my home town. This was heartbreaking... and infuriating when all the facts came out.
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  432. Good to know the testimony of the actual killer will go a long way towards convicting the actual plotters. I'm curious to see if Shanna's ersatz husband will turn on her since it's a death penalty case.
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  433. Karma invariably locates the guilty... not always on our best timetable, but yeah.
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  434. ​ @ChillingWithMel22  You know the victim is dead, right? 🤦 She's not going to 'show up'.
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  435. Did you watch the trial? You're second-guessing both due process and a jury of his peers who found reasonable doubt on the strongest charges. It's understandable, given that the crime happened a decade+ ago with a lack of formidable evidence.
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  436. Yes, but look at the miniscule overall ability - in this comment section - for rational thought, especially that pays heed to American jurisprudence.
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  437. Not necessarily. The goal is an appeal proof conviction. Cameras could be construed as prejudicial.
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  438. It doesn't get more ironic than this. I understand wanting to support a friend, but their statement afterwards is one of the most disingenuous things I can recall. As if they did it because they were busted... not because they suddenly realize that their friend is a violent, manipulative felon. We can all hope that his daughter stays away from Scientology and especially that she never meets anyone remotely like her father.
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  439. Spirituality is to religion what a tsunami is to a water droplet. Fundamentalism is doing more to harm our country than it has ever helped. Yes, I realize there are wonderful people of faith in all religions, but I'm grateful for the hundreds of thousands of NDEs that introduce people to the concept of a Creator who loves unconditionally - one without favorites. Rest in peace, dear Tylee and J.J. 🩵🦋🙏
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  440. Best comment.
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  441. ​ @rebeccaswift7588  Lol you can definitely tell who watches too much TV drama vs the reality of American jurisprudence.
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  442. Brenda, but the whiners won't be content. 😊
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  443. This is a new hearing. It was not aired before.
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  444. There are ads everywhere. You can click them off in a few seconds. We'll survive.
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  445. I reeeaaally think it was premeditated. Unfortunately, that's very tough to prove.
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  446. Bawling and balling are worlds apart, fwiw.
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  447. It's unconscionable that she was utilized as "expert" in these circumstances, tbh. I'm a senior citizen and pray I don't overestimate myself in any situation, let alone one of this import.
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  448. Kindly consider giving $ to animal rescue vs a successful media group who makes plenty from ads. They'll survive. Blessings! ❤
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  449. The most important aspect of any of this is how in the hell was ANY live round on set in the first place? (Have never seen one in the dozens of sets I've been on thru the decades.)
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  450. ​ @lydibug51  I'm so glad that the judge allowed that charge to stay in! I misunderstood his ruling the other day and thought it was severed. Big relief, although the rest of the evidence is still overwhelming.
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  451. ​ @misstbull  At least comment on the facts without going full Nancy Grace. 😂 Sarah Boone definitely seems guilty, but there was no poison in his system apart from being drunk.
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  452. 50% of US homicides go unsolved. Yet if it wasn't for white privilege, this case would have been solved years ago. Extra props to Jack Campbell and Georgia Cappleman, but especially to LEO who never gave up. Dan's sons will be 18 in a few years and can reclaim their real name. By then, they'll be out of the Adelson vacuum, undoubtedly aware of their mom's complicity in their Dad's death. Hoping they can know the Markels before it's too late.
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  453. ​@H_da_6.5 Your snark notwithstanding, unless you've ever wanted justice to occur, you may not understand how much it can mean to the survivors of the victim. (And I hope you never do need justice for any reason.)
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  454. 🎻
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  455. Even when some folks are guilty, I've felt a degree of compassion for them as they head off to long prison terms... This is not one of those times.
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  456. Done in by homonyms.
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  457. ALL of the crew brought it up. Do your research.
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  458. Maybe take a break from Court TV for a while?
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  459. Sending extra angels on your path. I empathize because friends adopted 3 children from China. (They all had special medical needs - all fixed via surgery once in the US) The oldest, who was 4 when adopted, was been diagnosed with RAD. Despite both parents being MDs, great support of family and community, their child - now 18 - has put them all through a nightmare. Unlike your daughter, he shows no academic promise or any interest in his own future. This is a dreadful take, but I've honestly wondered how they all don't move away in the night. Nor can I imagine the pain that he feels. It's not like he chose to be in an orphanage where starvation and physical abuse occurred for years.
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  460. ​ @Trans_African_Queen  100%
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  461. ​ @cindyben3089  Think you're trying to say 'biased'.
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  462. Too early to get this excited about tiny mistakes in reportage. 😂
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  463. Are you seven?
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  464. I hope they convict on all charges, but think they might pull back on the most serious one - malice murder. Imo, this is one of the more obvious crimes of this nature that we've seen. Payne needs decades in prison.
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  465. You're incorrect.
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  466. I thought about what it might be like to endure what his son experienced - and at that age. I'm aware there were severe behavioral issues, but they didn't get help for their son or the family as a whole. (The other kids have to be scarred from it, too.) Hoping he gets ten years. I don't think more makes sense, but any less won't send a message.)
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  467. And for killing one's child.
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  468. The video was taken from a home in which he committed SA against a 9 yr old girl and her mother. It's where they got his DNA. Any suggestions to the contrary... Are (------) thus noted.
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  469. It mostly prevented his atty from suborning perjury: they are bound by ethics not to do so. Telles is lying about that, too.
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  470. Indeed.
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  471. ​ @hedgedrisk  Wearing that incel t-shirt today, eh?
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  472. A fair trial is more important than anything. Pretty sure we'd all like to see an appeal-proof conviction: it's not about us. Would I like to see it? Sure. But we'll live. Yet the whines are going to happen non-stop. 😂
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  473. What did she say, please, at 46:30? Thanks, if anyone can figure it out.
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  474. If you listen to the video - requiring minimal cerebral cortex to comprehend, you'll get the facts vs being sofa ninja Dunning-Krugerite.
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  475. Ted and everyone else: it doesn't matter if she was beautiful, fgs. She's a human who's been taken away from her loved ones. Thank you.
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  476. Summer thrives only on outrage: sad life sans friends.
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  477. There are terrific artists who work hard at their craft to excel. Seems like one of them could have been hired.
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  478. Read how that transpired.
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  479. She looked sinister to me. And like an older version of Kim Miller, who set up the crime. Read in peace, Ron ✨️
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  480. Did you watch the trial? LE and prosecutor needed to do a much better job, imo.
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  481. ​ @January.  OK, Karen... relent.
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  482. Her attorney.
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  483. Godspeed to Mr. Bland. Good man.
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  484. At least learn basics of American jurisprudence before going full Karen, i.e., everyone has the right to a trial and a defense.
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  485. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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  486. Mormons. Religion in general points to a God who loves conditionally. It's my main problem with it. Playing higher ground with one particular faith is disingenuous, tho - at best. Prejudice is ugly.
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  487. Stanley Tucci judge vibes.
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  488. Go to the live section. 😂
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  489. Common courtroom vernacular, tho. A holdover from the 'King's English'. If anything, it's archaic or disingenuous, but not 'dumb'.
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  490. Pretty clear from the evidence that she's guilty of second degree murder. As luck would have it, those are the exact charges against her.
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  491. They've got to try for the best defense. Plus, some objections were sustained. That means they were spot on.
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  492. The steps to Dan's murder are pretty clear regardless of testimony.
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  493. Dan very much acted like a jerk - great dad or not. But it's beyond the pale to go where Wendi, Charlie and Donna went. May justice rain down.
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  494. ​@teresapren3266 I think the Adelsons are miserable and high-drama by nature. They view themselves as exceptional. Making the leap to contract an actual killing just points to a collective trait of narcissism. Let's hope the old nurture vs nature question weighs in favor of genes in case of Dan's sons.
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  495. ​ @rullvox5912  That tape of him talking about being a great man. That's not criminal at all... but prize for hubris rolling in.
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  496. They did... and then denied they were flight risks.
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  497. ​ @Randomhero413  The DV cases they filed against each other were even imbalanced, with Jorge bearing the brunt of the most severe injuries. (Her 2018 attack on him was extremely violent.) All DV is horrible, but I hope she won't try to 'pull a Benefield', implying she was in danger when he's the one who paid with his life.
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  498. It's actually all the more believable in that he's not over the top. People watch too much TV.
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  499. 💯
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  500. It's his total right to ask for a different venue. Any lawyer worth their salt would fight for that.
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  501. Different pieces of evidence in different places can create intelligent presumption. I.e., a receipt in one place can lead to the item itself in another. We're all better off letting the pros do these investigations, lol.
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  502. '... loved her like a sister.' If Cain had been a boy.
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  503. Very few people see it that way, per polls.
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  504. 😂
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  505. And thou art omniscient. Right.
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  506. In the event of an appellate issue where one of the jurors might later say they were pressured or that they voted other than guilty. Polling ostensibly prevents this from happening.
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  507. Despite insisting she loves Jared's older children, Kirsten is totally on board with the death penalty for their mom. Betting DP fans don't see anything amiss here. Since legal experts agree that there's only the slimmest chance Shanna could get DP, Kirsten's position is moot. It just makes her proves her claim about the twins is superficial. (Awaiting the opprobrium of DP fans.) Anyway, hope Mario turns on Shanna. Tbh, a trifecta would be getting convictions for Kouri Richens and the rest of the Adelsons, too, even if the latter is a dream.) Take care, folks. Here's to justice.
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  508. Both prosecutors are very good.
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  509. He really does. I'm impressed that the jury insisted on facts beyond a reasonable doubt despite how emotional this was. Mixed feelings re: where's justice?
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  510. Bigotry bot has entered the chat.
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  511. ​ @TheOtherBoleynGirl336  It's so depressing that people think like that.
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  512. Stable people shrieking in all caps.
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  513. Adults are all responsible for their own actions: no one 'puts' people into situations where they harm others. It's a choice they make.
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  514. Since it's complicated, there's this thing called an internet search engine. All of your questions answered in a flash.
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  515. Bingo.
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  516. ​ @zombieboobies 🤦
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  517. Shanna Gardner did the same thing, but used her husband instead of her brother.
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  518. ​ @mea1831 Damn, I didn't realize that. Of course she can create excuses, but yes, that's telling.
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  519. Donna Adelson needed to hear that, too. But Florida.
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  520. They are amazing. Love them both.
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  521. ​ @EmperorOfMan  Old J. Jeff Walker lyric: '... your brain on a razor blade'd look like a beebee rolling down a 4-lane highway'.
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  522. Exactly. As disingenuous as Charlie's lies about being extorted. Neither of their claims ring true at any level.
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  523. I get it and cannot begin to imagine what these families are enduring. But no one has any idea what she feels. Tbh, if she cried, people would call it crocodile tears. But, because she's outwardly stoic, she's demonized for that. We get it. She did something horrific and also needs to be an example. May justice work enough to send her to prison for the rest of her life. Histrionics don't do anything at all to ensure it.
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  524. This. 100%.
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  525. Gee. It would be swell to see her convicted of her husband's murder. One of the few contemporary cases where a lot of the evidence is in public view. Here's to karma, too.
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  526. This isn't a trick. The state needs to get its act together.
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  527. Tisk-tisk...so cynical. 😂 (You're right. He's a piece of work in the original definition of the word.)
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  528. ​ @ezragonzalez8936  thank you for such a lucid, empathetic and, frankly, sane response. Earth needs triage ~ and across diverse disciplines. Hoping sense and humanity rise to the occasion.
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  529. God isn't hateful. He loves us all equally, eternally, immensely and without exception. God doesn't burn His beloved children for eternity
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  530. Good grief. None of us know how he's feeling or even his motives. We can have our own emotional reaction, but we've got zero facts. The amount of presumption is pretty crazy. Folks watch too much TV and read very little. It's definitely showing in the comments. I understand strong feelings. But they do not have anything to do with a fair trial.
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  531. You don't know that. Denial is quite common in such cases: it doesn't mean complicity. Why can't people await actual evidence?
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  532. The look on the prosecutor is how we all feel listening to the defense attorney.
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  533. Wow. I missed that. Grandiose and something both boys will undoubtedly figure out on their own one day soon. I feel for them the most. They'll be 18 in a few years and can reclaim their real name, but the reality that their Dad was murdered so their Mom could absolve herself of parental duties... that'll take years of therapy. Praying the vacuum they're in can finally break open to let the Markels know them before it's too late. Damn, this is akin to Shakespeare's darkest plots.
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  534. 😂 It's not about us being curious. It's about getting as fair a trial as possible.
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  535. The boys will be 18 soon. They can reclaim their real name. By then, they will be thoroughly aware of the Adelson family. It's impossible to imagine how this affects them - even beyond the grief of losing their father.
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  536. ​@charrielyn1231 Pretty sure the DA knows more re: the evidence - the same that the judge has sealed for 30 days. But hey. Always good to hear from the sweeping generalizations crowd.
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  537. Ballerina sympathy noted.
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  538. ​Cherri - he's doing an excellent job. And he's fighting for the life of his client. Your opinion, thankfully, doesn't weigh into it. What's your CV, btw?
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  539. Keith Morrison made a revolting decision to give her any airtime, too. This isn't journalism any more than Chris Hansen provides a useful service. Yet their ilk will always have slack-jawed fans.
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  540. He's the one who requested a bench trial.
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  541. I've no idea how this crazy conspiracy thing rolled as far as it has, but the commonwealth hasn't come anywhere close to proving KR's guilt. Almost every one of the players - from KR to her 'friends' who've been witnesses - are obnoxious and next level sketchy, but not sure how/if that'll play into deliberations. I have compassion for O'Keefe's family: it doesn't look like they'll ever have the answers they need.
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  542. Oh my. I'm having difficulty not rooting for this person to get judicial comeuppance.
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  543. They've been sus as heck re: defense persecution. BUT... it sure looks like him in that video.
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  544. We have a trial...even though it seems he left a clear trail.
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  545. Thank you for making a balanced comment. I'm astonished to see how many people are buying into the Odin theory, throwing out what is known about the case so far. Now he says he made up a confession. It stretches the outer limits of sanity. What happens when Dunning-Kruger effect meets FB idiocy.
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  546. Lol like it would be the first time we've seen duplicate reports on any network.
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  547. From wee fibs to bold-faced lies, yep - Miss Becky hit the trifecta.
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  548. Aaand a Karen randomly interjects much needed murder etiquette.
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  549. ​@Heathero3424 Reactive rage and sanctimony at level 10, yet with utter lack of critical thinking skills/discernment. On point for YT sofa ninjas.
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  550. 💯
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  551. Guilty verdict returned on Sat. (10/5) after 22 minutes of deliberations. Judge sentenced Ackerman to 45 years.
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  552. Wow. The number of comments solely about her physical appearance - given the expanse of her acts over the years - is surprising. Look. One or two remarks - I get it. But a lot of these are just mean, sniping, witless barbs that are more like 6th grade notes. No, it can't all be SCOTUS-level briefs - and that would be too much, too. [exit Karen]
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  553. ​ @gabrielesablotny783  What's your CV? Doing all this diagnostic work from one's sofa. Yikes.
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  554. Fyi, Chad refused any and all witnesses on his behalf. It was his call to make. It also rendered moot the fact that others wanted to testify for him.
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  555. Oh stop with the stuff about what lawyers look like. 😂 It's their job. That's all.
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  556. ​ @nightwolf654  Lolol incel speaks.
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  557. Like much of the Alex Murdaugh evidence, it definitely adds up: a lot of people think it's of little consequence. Hearing these searches is chilling. Can't imagine what the jury must be thinking.
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  558. Ah, Karen
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  559. ​@yamyamyams2629 The notion that people are racist for believing in the guilt of a POC is disingenuous at best... equally racist at worst. It's about evidence. It's not all in.
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  560. As of Feb. '24, she's an overnight anchor for Fox, according to a media release by the network.
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  561. 😂
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  562. Suzanne. 💙🙏
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  563. 100%
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  564. Like Georgia needs Vinnie's guidance in the matter. Oy.
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  565. His homespun closing argument is a travesty: comparing SB to a veteran.
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  566. At least learn something about the case before the shrieks begin.
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  567. What an awful thing to write. Her grandparents loved her very much. She was a young person who was murdered. Get a grip on your judgment.
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  568. The bubbly, coffee klatch voice - as if Home Shopping and Lifetime Network had a crime baby.
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  569. Tbh, I fretted they'd have enough evidence for trial, much less conviction. Since proving conspiracy is key for the state's case, they've done a great job of building proof. And I'm almost glad it's not televised. I've empathy for the jury, as well. It's such a gruesome case. Justice for Tylee, JJ & Charles... and Tammy, too.
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  570. Lots of DSM-5 level sadism in the comments section - the same type listed as incurable. And a lot of those same people identify as 'Christian'... ... because the irony train is never late.
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  571. ​ @bbginc694  There are a great deal of brilliant, moral attorneys in every nation. What's your CV? 😂
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  572. ​ @gerriwetherhold6369  'Word salad', indeed. The whole family seems great at it, but they are underestimating common sense in the jury.
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  573. This family reminds me of an old Jerry Jeff Walker lyric: "... your brain on a razor blade's like a beebee rolling down a 4-lane highway... " 😂
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  574. Lol familiarize yourself with American criminal jurisprudence.
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  575. Imagine waking up one day to discover that a monster made you. I'm so sorry for the cruel accusations the families receive. One can only hope that karma visits those who speculate about innocent people.
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  576. This is not that case. The evidence is almost nonexistent in the Morphew case: at least it doesn't begin to reach the standard for beyond a reasonable doubt.
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  577. Why post the same thing over and over?
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  578. Yet there are plenty of people - this writer, for one - who believe he's totally guilty.
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  579. Sofa ninjas who are implying complicity re: the Heuermann family post the worst of the comments. Their dim, accusatory 'insight' is cruel and witless.
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  580. He's working to earn whatever money she's got. It's only for the rest of her life and evidence piled high.
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  581. Leave animals out of it. Only humans are capable of things like this.
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  582. Doubtful, since she was examined on multiple occasions and fought hard to prove her competency in order to represent herself.
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  583. 😂 Karens gonna Karen.
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  584. But that phone call about him being on the burn pile before anyone knew he was missing. The chronology did her in: the jury paid attention.
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  585. Agreed. The meanness of folks is problematic - so much rage and not a little Dunning-Kruger effect. Doesn't bode well for the nation.
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  586. They're absolutely not rendering sub-standard representation for the benefit of appellate manipulation. Good grief. Where in the world do you guys come up with this stuff?
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  587. Man, Sarah. This'll come back to haunt you... That's only fitting, since Jorge's death didn't affect you in the least. Rest in peace, Jorge. Justice is coming soon.
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  588. This. 100%. I believe Wendi knew something was in the works. Though it's hardly proof, she didn't finish driving down the street when she saw crime tape, LE vehicles, etc. Imo, that's not a normal reaction. Jeffrey Lacasse, her recent bf, submitted several instances of very sketchy behavior that point to actual involvement. If anything makes me think she was in on it, it was when she kept trying to get his exact route/time of departure for a planned trip. If Cappleman, et al, had evidence they thought would stand up - especially given the limited immunity Wendi has - they would've charged her before now. It doesn't matter how much second guessing this panel of 'experts' does: it's up to the DA.
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  589. Fwiw, there were a couple of very telling facts of the case that one of the jurors mentioned in a post-conviction interview that clinched her guilt for me.
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  590. Not germane to case, but I'm going to enjoy hearing these awesome accents during the trial. Love this 'paht' of the country. ❤
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  591. Sigh. You're.
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  592. He actually knows a lot about LDS. (Plus, it has different offshoots that may or may not be 'sanctioned'.) Legit question, please: Why are women so eager to sign off on the patriarchy of any religion - ones who say women are subservient and cannot have positions of leadership?
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  593. Why not think hard about whether those people need to be in your life. Children are precious and you honored their desire to be private.
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  594. Unfortunately, she seems to lack that trait which makes regret possible - a human conscience.
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  595. 😂💯
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  596. MAGA shrieks... eeek.
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  597. And the father of your four children, at that. Fwiw, the following info is from a public hearing re: a bond revocation hearing back in April: Meagan Jackson also has a pending child neglect case. Per a no contact rule, since all four children are the victims, when she called one of them, the girl promptly hung up and reported her mother to the prosecutor's office. Like Brad Simpson's children, I guess there's no love lost between them and the parent who killed their other parent. I wanna stop short of going full Nancy Grace here, but damn I'm glad Chris is testifying against her.
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  598. Why? Because every defendant deserves a defense. Yes.. He's horrific as a human. But more killing doesn't heal anything.
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  599. Not really.
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  600. 20:00 Defense attorney talking about the 'brutal process' for the client. When irony is a tsunami.
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  601. Wanting her to be charged is a lot different from securing enough evidence for an indictment, unfortunately.
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  602. Nah. He knew.
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  603. Obviously.
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  604. Carbon Nation? Lord.
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  605. ​ @colouroflife1  🇹🇷💙
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  606. Not looking like they can charge him. Too bad. I believe he's guilty.
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  607. You're actually serious. Wow.
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  608. What's your CV? Exactly.
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  609. Exactly. People whining lol about getting cameras when it's about a fair trial. The most important thing is the conviction.
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  610. What's with the crickets' sounds?
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  611. My cousin's next door neighbor's former roommate agrees.
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  612. They sing their own praises enough, frankly.
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  613. Look up the Borgias.
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  614. She was his mistress. That's a girlfriend to a married man. And she knew he had a wife, regardless of where she thought she lived. That doesn't mean we're making judgements about her: every one of us knows he's guilty and we want an appeal-proof conviction. Period.
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  615. Actual survivor of DV here: the jury rendered justice.
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  616. No she's not. She should get the money from selling them. Stop demonizing her.
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  617. 😂 Surprised they didn't send each other decoder rings.
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  618. 😂 It was totally her choice not to testify: she took their advice. If she had wanted to testify and was disallowed, we'd be hearing about it from the Supreme Court on down, but nice try.
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  619. In light of the fact that he very well may get a new trial for his murder conviction, it's good to know these years are 'tacked on'.
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  620. ​ @Resmith18SR  The commonwealth has called 65 witnesses and haven't bought evidence yet, but it's vital that the case is complete prior to assessing guilt: that's what the jury is for. In the meantime, we're all allowed to freely speculate. That's what comment sections are for.
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  621. The death penalty has been off the table for Telles from the beginning.
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  622. They were wise to keep that as dominant charge. They could never have gotten a conviction on a higher one.
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  623. None of this ever had anything to do with faith - at least where Chad and Lori were concerned.
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  624. The over the top commentators are bad enough in this comment section without listening to 'pros'. I just miss when Court TV was for adults.
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  625. She would not take it. Read about the case.
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  626. Ask Santa for a bit of tact and empathy.
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  627. Lots of criminal defendants support their loved ones at all stages of the legal process. All these comments from those who don't know anything about the degree of support are ill-informed at best. Why go there before the trial? Why presume? Why ally with the abject ignorance of the many?
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  628. Ah. The Witches of And Or. (Showing myself out.)
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  629. ​ @robinsnest7627  Great to see a thoughtful, informed comment amid, well, an inordinate amount of histrionics. Fwiw, I believed Sarah was guilty from the start, but I'm also a fiend for due process. That's why I was damn glad when Owens came aboard. (The thought of her examining/cross-examining witnesses was a train wreck I didn't want to watch, to say nothing of her attempts to observe courtroom protocols.) Imo, had she been convicted while being pro se, it was bound to be overturned on appeal. Given that, it was surprising Judge Kraynik made it happen - despite that impressive 16 page ruling. (But I had to laugh when I read one comment stating that he probably didn't care because he was as sick of her as the rest of us.) 😂
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  630. Writing. And it's of no consequence.
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  631. 50% of US homicides go unsolved.
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  632. Utter unfamiliarity with the Bill of Rights doesn't change things. But Dunning-Kruger away.
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  633. ​ @ginnyleedays  😂
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  634. What are you trying to say? Telles has never been charged with a crime prior to this and the trial's only halfway through. The defense hasn't put on its case yet. (And if you're not aware, that's a fundamental right of all citizens.)
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  635. ​ @Monalisa0622  God loves all of us equally, eternally, immensely and without exception. Religion has carved away at that truth for so long.
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  636. She's too old to be working, imo. I'm not being ageist. It's quite evident in this case.
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  637. Videos and articles are all over the internet.
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  638. Seriously? Based on his looks? Or was a poorly timed non sequitur?
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  639. They're definitely going out on a limb with these charges. It would be great if she is convicted of something pertaining to Jennifer's death - and everyone knows she was killed. Just think they might have overcharged her. Kent MacWhinney, on the other hand, was in it up to his eyeballs. Bet he's dreading the trial.
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  640. Hoping victim blamers get their very own special karma. (Bet you're religious... no need to tell us what kind.)
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  641. Compared to other defendant cross-examinations, he's actually very mannerly. No kidding. Besides, it's murder. Not recalling is disingenuous at best.
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  642. I think he'd been planning it longer than that.
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  643. Oh, him. He's just fighting for his client's life. I'm sure he'd be heartbroken to know you're bored.
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  644. Did you watch the report?
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  645. The difference between criminally insane people and ones with severe mental illness who harm no one needs clarifying. Other prisoners need protection from the former, too. These are not casual discussions. Our prisons are already monster factories.
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  646. Karen has entered the chat.
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  647. Dean Radin, PhD and Rupert Sheldrake, PhD have performed different experiments about the non-locality of consciousness, ie how people know when they're being stared at, dogs who know when their owners are coming home, etc. Fascinating papers in peer-reviewed journals, fwiw. The observer effect touches on this, as well. A lot of people in and out of 'science' scoff at the notion of vibrations having any influence on others - especially at a distance, but it's been happening for ages. Lol I'm just sorry it's being talked about in such an absurd manner. (Realtor in this video.)
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  648. With rare exception, none of us understands why she committed these violent, seemingly spontaneous, felonies. But jerking her re: the bracelet remark is the least of it. Meanwhile - right or wrong - she's still a teen with her world splintering. Maybe the dumb bracelet was the only thing she thought she could control. It's a drag when the shallow take is the lede. But kids are doing more things like fits and asking why seems a long way off.
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  649. It still opens the field to the idea of non-local consciousness which is absurdly controversial, imo. I like your suggestion that such things be studied. Fwiw, IONS - Institute for Noetic Sciences - has been looking into this and related questions for decades. (As have Dean Radin and Rupert Sheldrake.) Here's to Light on the path.
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  650. The makeup artist did her no favors - definitely added harshness. It seems intentional. (Good for them.)
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  651. Yes! Folks have been piling on the FBI, but their record - and I'm talking about recently - is extraordinary re: local corruption, crimes against children and terrorism. Still one of the most important institutions in our govt.
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  652. People have always talked about crimes before they are adjudicated, but I get it. (That's why there are so many attempts to change jurisdictions due to pre-trial publicity.)
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  653. She's playing to the Lifetime Network lovers who think Nancy Grace isn't shrill enough. Unbelievable that she's an attorney. Dunning-Kruger on the rise.
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  654. He was definitely over her.
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  655. ​ @mah596 😂🤣
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  656. Always good to heed the important stuff. Couture. Check.
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  657. Lots of reasonable doubt in her case, though. And, fwiw, my opinion doesn't have anything to do with that cray Turtletoddler, corrupt investigation, etc. The cw didn't prove their case. Unfortunately for John's loved ones, I'm not sure they'll ever find out what happened.
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  658. Tbh, race was an issue here. Seems impossible to believe she would have hunted down a driver who was not a POC.
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  659. Please replace Julie.
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  660. There is nothing subtle about Vinnie. He's almost a buffoon for the camera, but it's all about sensational content. Without this horrific case, he wouldn't get to be so outraged.
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  661. ​ @InLieuTube 💯💯💯
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  662. His job was to defend those children. If a fireman showed up in his truck and didn't get out the hose. Same.
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  663. Desire for revenge doesn't figure into the legal system. That's the difference between criminal and civil courts. ...all of the excitability in comment sections notwithstanding.
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  664. Whoever hired this courtroom artist - next time, don't do any hiring after you've been drinking at lunch. 😂
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  665. 😂
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  666. Little MAGA Victim Barbie.
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  667. In manor? Just no. Homonyms are not your friend.
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  668. Court TV is to journalism what Nancy Grace is to Samadhi.
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  669. The original motive had nothing to do with money: it just made it happen.
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  670. The video clearly stated the crime happened in July.
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  671. Vocal fry of the decade award.
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  672. Rooting for justice right along with you. Btw, you're doing a great time verbalizing your feelings. Rest in peace to your Dad. Extra angels of comfort your way.
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  673. 💯💯
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  674. You're in the same league as Allen then. No different.
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  675. ​ @abbyynorman2874  The immaturity and vengeful quality of commentators is only going to ramp up as this case inches forward. Fortunately, humanity and sentience find their way into the comment section, as well. (The mote in my own eye is judging judgemental folks. I'm on it.) 😂
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  676. The same sex aspect has nothing to do with it. Petty to mention it, dude.
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  677. It says a lot.
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  678. You don't know what the defense will be.
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  679. All that sanctimony and concern for Jorge. We're deeply impressed.
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  680. 😂 Charlie was the author of the extortion fantasy. D.R., regardless of his occupation as a defense attorney, would risk his entire livelihood - and even his freedom - were he to create false testimony on behalf of his client. Ill-informed presumptions to the contrary, it might be noted that even his staunchest opponents defend his abilities and moral advocacy. Next level Dunning-Kruger comments notwithstanding, at least try to follow the basics of American jurisprudence vs throwing out extreme accusations that are wholly unsubstantiated.
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  681. Judge knows his stuff. Defense attorney was taken aback.
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  682. Then read the letter. 🤦 Try to be strong 😂
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  683. Why care one way or another?
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  684. Denial is a common reaction in many criminal cases. Let's wait for convictions to cast all these stones. Thankful the system is more pragmatic than many of the commentators here.
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  685. Dunning-Kruger with bells on. The abject density is staggering. Yes, we're all different, etc., but this level of - but damn.
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  686. Her hubris worked for her right up until the end.
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  687. 💯💪🌟
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  688. I believed Scott.
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  689. He's being very disingenuous.
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  690. Matt Johnson is terrific.
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  691. She mixes smug and disingenuous...and these are among her better traits. How can her sons recover from this much treachery from their own mother? I know they'll both be 18 in a few years and they can reclaim their real name. I just hope they can find compassionate support and counseling in the interim. Justice for the Markels.
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  692. Being elitist about someone's occupation doesn't point to evidence or proof of character. It's more about the commentator than anything else. FYI, doctors, preachers and - hello, Rex Heuermann - even architects, have been accused and/or convicted of horrific crimes. Childish generalizations notwithstanding, there are plenty of fine human beings doing jobs no one else wants. Perhaps gratitude is in order.
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  693. If you had any expertise re: American jurisprudence, your comment would be impressive.
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  694. Like the SS ever asked for reasons.
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  695. It will not approach that length of time.
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  696. He's an experienced prosecutor who brings in ratings: legal TV has gotten worse - more sensationalist - thru the years. I blame the density of the audiences as much as anything.
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  697. 😂 Guzzling all that 'conspiratea'. Man.
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  698. ​ @cindymcmillan609  You absolutely don't know that about her kids. Perhaps showing compassion for people who might not want to be in this circus would put you on the side of real mercy. Lori's been convicted. They're probably very conflicted about what's occurred/continuing to play out. So much chest-pounding sanctimony in these comments. Lori is the one who warrants wrath. Period.
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  699. It seems like it is taking forever, but things are really on a timely schedule, fwiw. Truth. Frankly, I hope Mr G can relent even a little on his hate because it eats the hater alive. And no it's not easy for me to say. I've been looking at a lot of recent trials where circumstantial evidence is powerful as hell, resulting in good, appeal-proof convictions. Faith in justice ~ for now.
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  700. 😂 Like they owe us all of the details lol.
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  701. Jared's widow says she cares about his kids with Shanna, but is pushing for the DP for their mom. I understand the desire for justice, but please. These kids won't have anyone. (Seriously doubt it'll happen with this case, tho.)
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  702. Oh, please.
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  703. Veg - This channel posts a lot of crime docs re: cases that happened years ago. Why the shock?
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  704. Yes. And she's already consulting Kastiger rule experts to ensure its effectiveness. She's smart.
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  705. What's your CV? Legit question.
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  706. ​ @ReynaBanx  Karma for hate happens. Word.
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  707. You're serious. 🤦
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  708. Google is our friend.
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  709. Because these are brief procedural matters and not an actual trial, complicated hearing, etc. Remote appearances streamline the judicial process all over the nation. Have you not seen this happening for some time?
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  710. ​ @justme33126  Yet she never uttered a word to anyone. How convenient.
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  711. Needs better audio on guests' mics
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  712. Why? For asking that American jurisprudence be followed?
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  713. ​ @lydiagomez3639 I'm glad you said this. The other commentators' opinions seem a bit...off the subject entirely. My gosh, people are dense.
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  714. "If this book is anything like the podcast... it'll be all about Mandy." (In fairness, of course they did a lot to bring justice: just found the self-referencing extreme.)
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  715. Counsel. 'Council' has another definition.
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  716. Some folks' meanness is illuminated in these cases. Plethora of cruel, witless comments as if it⁶【
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  717. 😂 Lots of us, but they've got it coming.
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  718. I understand keeping cameras out even if I'm curious even if it's almost too horrible to watch.
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  719. Let Alex get his hopes way up. He'll be in prison forever due to his financial crimes.
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  720. You can pull the screen out to occlude that on devices.
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  721. Agree - tho Kouri Richens gives them a run for the money.
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  722. He's doing an excellent job and, quite frankly, this awful human deserves as good a defense as he can get. Hard to imagine how proud folks are of hating... and being bloodthirsty. And saying it's God's will? Fairy tales of the cruel.
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  723. I'm not saying it's proof of guilt, but who do you think that guy walking towards the girls looked like? And what of his confession to his wife? I agree that we hardly know all of the facts. It's fishy in every quarter.
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  724. ​ Donna_Evilson  😂
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  725. It was probably her decision vs her attorney's.
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  726. YT sofa ninja, aka Karen, has entered the chat... albeit briefly. 😂
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  727. ​ @annem5899  😶
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  728. Knowing the difference between a defendant and his attorneys seems the least one could manage. These aren't 'his' decisions, fgs.
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  729. Check out online articles about this case and her history of fire-related incidents. They point to why her bond is 20 million dollars.
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  730. ​ @hammyk2372  Bringing up Jesus amid plea for more brutal method of execution = typical evangelical hypocrisy.
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  731. 💯
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  732. And the Karens rage.
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  733. ​ @johnpennell3387 😂 💯
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  734. Why are commenters not addressing the 8 minutes between shots? It's the difference between self-defense and a crime, unfortunately. (Even though LE does the same thing too often.)
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  735. 🤣🤣
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  736. ​ @GhastlyCretin Everyone knows that. It is what it is. This team got it done.
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  737. ❤
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  738. That's about YT, not the content provider.
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  739. I like him. Yo, at least he doesn't scream like Vinnie, who's not a bad guy at all, btw - just a bit much when he goes full Nancy Grace. 😂
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  740. Yo. It's no crime to be ignorant about a vital aspect of American jurisprudence: we're all ignorant about something. But being proud of that and then, once apprised of the facts, disparaging Constitutional rights is so... Dunning-Kruger. (Alas. One of the symptoms is being utterly unaware of it.)
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  741. Shrieking in comments is always a beneficial tactic.
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  742. I abhor MAGA, but what does that have to do with their criminal case?
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  743. The sentence happens in Oct. That was just the portion where the jury made its recommendation. Judge Leavitt can depart upwards: I think she will due to the enhancements in the verdict.
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  744. I think she's immensely qualifed and too old to be working. Being professor emeritus is vastly different from being one in the classroom each day. Your criticism of Yale, tho probably intended as irony, begs the question: what's your CV?
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  745. The trial happened as they all do. Whining about the timeline points more to the commenter's lack of knowledge re: American jurisprudence.
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  746. What are you even trying to say, please?
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  747. It's relatively easy to clear such spaces. Folks scoff at the necessity of doing so, but it can definitely make things easier. Fwiw, Light far outweighs darkness. Go in knowing that. (And I'm not talking about religion - just the force of good intention and bossy angels.) 🤗✨💙
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  748. Yikes. There must be a DSM-5 page for those who see 'signs' even in the most unobtrusive acts.
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  749. 💯 The difference between spirituality and religion is as vast as the that between the ocean and droplets of water. (Pro-capital punishment 'Christians' are good examples.)
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  750. Good thing you're waiting on the evidence to be convinced. 😂
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  751. "Cat litter".
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  752. It's what he does. I'm just glad he's not Nancy Grace. 😂
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  753. Except C.C. is rather likeable.
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  754. The first defense team was sus, but none of us have the facts. May justice rain for the victims and their families.
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  755. Gascon isn't going anywhere.
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  756. She needed at least 20 years in prison.
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  757. You have no idea what happened in the jury room. That's cowardly presumptuous.
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  758. ​ @jacobthompson6265  But his first wife had him killed. It seems unlikely she'll be free again. (But of course we don't have access to the state's case.) I disagree with the death penalty, tho - and not just for the privileged. The trauma Jared's twins have endured has been great enough. Knowing their mom had their dad killed is horrific enough. Shanna's lack of remorse is not a factor in crime details, but it sure adds to the overall picture of a lack of humanity.
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  759. He's doing a great job pleading for the life of his client. He's educated and impassioned. How extraordinary that you are unable to see it. Rest in peace, Griselda and dear Dominic.
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  760. He'll still be in prison for the rest of his life.
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  761. This happened thirty years ago.
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  762. Maybe ask an attorney what happened in there today.
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  763. Lolol it's all about you.
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  764. Doubtful in this case.
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  765. ​ @shannonhawkins3296  Google?
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  766. I think her age plays legitimately into complaints about her demeanor and expertise... and I'm a senior citizen. I think it was admirable of her to say she probably shouldn't have testified. Tbh, I'm curious to know if she needed the money. Also, claiming LS was psychotic without the proper tests was a mistake that can't be corrected.
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  767. Different jurisdictions.
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  768. Sure. Chronological age notwithstanding, her mental game is on point. Fwiw, that's often the case in professions in which the intellect is vital. The axiom 'use it or lose it' is apt.
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  769. It's not up to the gallery.
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  770. Yet, before she fired them or they quit, none of Sarah's previous attorneys moved to dismiss. And, fwiw, out of a dozen criminal trial attorneys on YT, none of them are suggesting that she's overcharged. Let's assume that, between their CVs and low regard for capricious litigation, the actual prosecutors in Boone's case know what they're doing vs YT sofa ninjas.
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  771. Sure, she can ask. Begrudging things like that is just an indicator of the commentators' picayune nature more than anything else, tbh. Besides, there are so many legal aspects to this case to focus on. Outrage over an old broad wanting water and/or AC?
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  772. This isn't the same situation, but it reminds me of how warped people can ruin the lives of innocent children... One of my sisters worked hard to alienate her two sons from their fathers. It broke my heart to watch. My ex-bros-in-law were/are good men who adored their sons and my sister did everything she could to foment lies, drama and separation. Now the boys are men and - irony of ironies - they barely speak to their mom either. Fgs, people. Life's short. Make sure you leave room for love and don't deprive your kids of the company of their family. (Fwiw, to be clear, I realize there are exceptions to this: there are dangerous circumstances and that's not what I'm discussing here. Use discretion.) Paz y luz.
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  773. ​@guywebster8018 Exactly. The sofa ninja legal 'expertise' in this comment section is over the top.
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  774. Did Grandma know about things? It's all so heartbreaking.
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  775. The therapy for the kids might be too late. Wish she was going to serve ten years. It still seems too light.
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  776. ​ @charrielyn1231  As my Mom says regarding the flood of senseless comments: "They make it way too easy to turn on a computer." 😂
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  777. I hear you. Lots of people are into outrage - especially in YT comment sections. Kind of replaces living life, I guess. But I'm fascinated with sofa ninjas, so I'm equally guilty. 😂
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  778. Why have that guy on? The channel already ranks high on the schadenfreude, but man. I hope he gets ten years and gets probation after about 7.
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  779. ​ @crazycatladyinc9191  Aptly named. Please cite a single piece of evidence that will lead to a conviction 'beyond a reasonable doubt'. And why is nearly every attorney commenting re: the case say that the commonwealth has not established a timeline, source of injuries to J.O, explanation of sketchy investigation, incomplete witness interviews, etc? Just because you believe K.R. should go to prison for decades, doesn't mean any of the facts are pointing to her guilt. Dunning-Kruger rides again.
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  780. 💯
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  781. Stop spamming.
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  782. 8 felony counts including malice murder = life in prison.
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  783. ​ @SheJukester I can't believe anyone thinks Lori can just take a bus to his trial. 😂
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  784. I'm glad he's got a voice.
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  785. He's also been saying that for years. No one has been more vocal and truly righteous on behalf of justice in this case. I get it: we all want total justice for Dan Markel, his sons, parents, sister... and everyone else who loved and admired him. But this is not exactly a slack prosecutorial team. They've won convictions in all of the cases they've charged so far. It just seems like if they had enough good evidence on Wendi, she'd be arrested by now. It's disingenuous to insist that the DA's holding back. Cappleman, et al have proven to be dogged and brilliant in their work. The only 'upside', I guess, is that, in a few years, Dan's sons will be 18 and can get their name back. By then, they'll be away from the Adelson 'vacuum', too. Here's hoping that Dan's looks and brains are what Wendi sees in the boys every day for the rest of her life. And that they'll tell her they know the full truth.
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  786. 😂😂😂
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  787. How bizarre to think of 'stupid' vs unconscionable. Says a lot about a person.
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  788. HAAAA
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  789. It remains to be seen whether Shanna's parents will fund his defense.
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  790. Everyone can see replies to any comment. And, fwiw, I've never subscribed. (You don't actually believe that anyone at Court TV reads these?)
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  791. Yikes accusing those who are relatives is a slippery slope - morally speaking.
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  792. 🎻
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  793. Julia is great, as is Matt Johnson, but, man - I miss the days of Court TV when buffoonery was unknown.
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  794. It's called due process: only simpletons are unaware of it.
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  795. Does anyone buy any of what she's saying? (Other than hybristophiliacs.)
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  796. Fgs, Elda. Get it straight: NO ONE deserves to be killed - and that's exactly what your absurd remark implies. (Notwithstanding the infantile emoji.) The other commenter's right: you're victim-blaming, which is disingenuous and cruel.
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  797. ​@loveforeignaccents There is a 'spam or misleading' choice when we report. YT is pretty good about taking those down. ✨️
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  798. ​@GenerationXChick Yet after statements made by the GOP candidate for POTUS, vigilante justice is something huge swaths of the public not only don't mind, but would like to see enacted. Let's hope people remember that due process is a part of our Constitution for a reason. Peace
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  799. ​ @ko6251 Even the part where she announced she plans to use self-defense as a motive - prior to his death? You're right re: reasonable doubt. I'd definitely have to be more objective as a jury member than I feel now in the comments' section. 😂
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  800. What's your implication?
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  801. Blanket statement covers a lot of ground. At least post an example of error.
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  802. Joel??
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  803. We think you should stop posting old videos and calling them new... since you asked. 🙃
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  804. Then you're not against capital punishment. Look, I understand how incensed folks feel. This case is devastating on every level. DP isn't a deterrent. Just look at Texas and Florida. It's complicated, but there have been too many exonerated people. What's amazing are all of the people who profess to be followers of Christ who are pro capital punishment.
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  805. 😂
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  806. Lolol bingo
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  807. She's the antithesis of good legal journalism. The sad part's that she must have a lot of viewers to keep the job. Fwiw, Vinnie's just as sensationalistic in his way. They indulge in breathy over the top gossip reportage. Decades ago, when Court TV started, they let the crimes speak for themselves vs. in-house editorializing.
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  808. ​ @JohnMack-f3f  💯
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  809. Criminally so.
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  810. ​ @mscaljanart  That requires diagnosis: good luck to him. 🤦
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  811. It's been posted.
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  812. It's 'you're'.
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  813. If they had enough to take her to trial, don't people realize it would've happened by now?
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  814. Commenters in support of violence - from Jan. 6 to Susan Lorincz - are the opposite of what's good about our country. America has no greater problem than hatred seeking to justify itself - on all sides. But there's a reason Lorincz is on trial. Not seeing the difference between bigoted miscreants and reasonable self-defense is the stuff of the DSM-5.
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  815. They're in foster care.
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  816. ... and hacksawed. 💯
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  817. All those tissues to no avail. Beauty.
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  818. She could've made plea deal: she will get more time this way. (I think. )
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  819. She was in a care facility. This is a very incomplete report re: the relationship between Boxley and Andrews, but there are good articles online and on Court TV website.
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  820. She won't get life without parole.
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  821. Fwiw, reading about cases is a lot quicker and more detailed than waiting for videos/answered comments.
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  822. ​ @stairway-steeltalkironresp7595  It's not an either/or thing... except for the small.
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  823. ​ @WonLotto100M  Fairy tales do not abet justice. Loving homes with discipline and attention from birth. Religion doesn't tell how God loves all of us equally, eternally, immensely and without exception
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  824. 💔
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  825. ​ @Janadu  @ryanfoxley's the stuff of the DSM-5 - broken, perhaps even s*ciopathic to support the man who mur*ered his children.
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  826. I loved that woman's testimony. Very compelling.
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  827. Yet there's this pesky thing called 'due process'. There's also something called the Dunning-Kruger effect and it's reaching tsunami proportion in this comment section.
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  828. I get it, but it's one thing for a crime to appear obvious, but it's a whole other thing to gather the evidence, timelines, etc., and present it as a case in fact. That's the biggest reason that it's taken so long to get Monica in the courtroom: all the 'i's dotted, 't's crossed, etc. Was watching earlier (3/7) today, for example, and fascinated at what it took to arrest Austin, Baker's accomplice, in Vancouver. About 8 LA detectives flew up to WA state and that didn't even count the LEOs on that end needed for the operation. (Guess I'm a true crime geek to enjoy that much detail.)
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  829. Hoping Becky Hill faces some kind of legal penalty. Her cloying, disingenuous remarks are the stuff of faux debutantes. 'Tone deaf' is putting it kindly.
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  830. Learn the smallest thing about American jurisprudence.
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  831. Because there are comments suggesting he may try to plead insanity, I think the deliberate acts in sequence go a long way to prevent this. (Armchair guessing.) Curious, too, if anyone has added up the internet searches, dumpster trips and lies to different people. It's hard to think of guiltier behavior in any defendant - at least in recent memory.
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  832. Someone's been spending way too much time at the...
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  833. A cool liar and a colder killer.
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  834. LEO took their cats for DNA testing: I've been hoping they at least get them back. I can't imagine losing our animals - much less experiencing what his family is enduring.
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  835. Thanks for this. Not enough people have these sentiments. Basic human rights fgs
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  836. As long as we're being Karens, curious re: the intelligence quotient of those who use multiple emojis.
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  837. 😂
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  838. Cammy, I'm not a fan of religion in general, but it's bizarre to see such prejudice re: one over another. There are a lot of great folks who happen to be Mormon: the geographic influence of religious affiliation is a factor. You might as well say people from Utah are predisposed to violent crime.
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  839. Did you even listen to the interview?
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  840. The obvious nature of some remarks are baffling.
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  841. Presuming a great deal - typical for YouTube comment section, tho.
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  842. Grippage called for. Lol, living out 'The Princess and the Pea' on YT.
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  843. It's unusual to identify murder victims only by their initials.
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  844. This.💯
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  845. God has unconditional love for all of us.
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  846. ​ @markkulyas2418  You guys 😂
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  847. A lot of folks don't seem to be paying attention. For various legit reasons, Wendi will probably never face major charges. It is a drag. I get it.
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  848. No. No policy on either of them. It was the first thing they looked at.
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  849. One of those rare times when the state should call for a mistrial. Mostly kidding. I think.
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  850. There is a reason that polygraphs are inadmissible in court.
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  851. Maximum sentence is 18 months.
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  852. ​@user-cw7kt1kp4z I was alluding to the current charges for HGR. Fwiw, I've acted on film/TV sets for decades and in roles requiring the use of a gun. Souza was right: the last thing anyone expects is a live round. It's unheard of. The armorer's protocol is exacting each time and on every take. And this is equally true for low-budget productions. Baldwin's liability as an EP, though, should definitely be part of civil proceedings.
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  853. I believe he did use the word 'gone'. It's coy and exactly how disingenuous people speak amid unfolding lies. Plus, Brian couldn't even allude to it honestly in his journal they found. I think he would be incapable of an utterly truthful statement re: the facts. Fwiw, I believe that his folks didn't press the issue, either. They might've had strong hunches, but were too cowardly to insist that their son tell everything once and for all. There may not be legal consequences for their inaction and that's a drag. While it's hardly full justice, I'm glad that the Petitos at least got a civil settlement. May extra angels of comfort be with them. Rest in peace, Gabby 🩵🌿
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  854. Outrageous.
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  855. Exactly. The first anchor is one of the few capable ones on Court TV. She's the antithesis of Craft, who's more like a bad SNL sketch than a moderator. That bubbly voice, dramatic narration... just no.
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  856. Google.
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  857. Speculation vs evidence = miles apart. Her immunity is the major block to prosecution. We may not like it, but it's realty.
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  858. And a former POTUS. And nothing will change re: his perfidy.
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  859. Then watch the interviews with Shanna Gardner 😂 (Jared Bridegan murder case) I have a hunch that even Kouri will move to second place.
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  860. Surprising number of comments from 'Christians' in support of capital punishment. (More killing is... exactly that.) Rest in peace, Tylee, J.J and Tammy. And may comfort be with all of those who love you still.
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  861. DP isn't a deterrent and it's carried out unfairly in the US. Justice system in our country needs reform. To be clear, Chad is a monster. Hope he's convicted and gets life in prison.
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  862. Throwing rocks in my glass house comment: Bringing little kids into her own deadly behavior - ok, murderous behavior - was pretty wretched. Saying 'bye' adds to the chill factor. Hoping for a conviction. And that her kids are well taken care of forever.
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  863. Is screaming necessary?
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  864. I do believe Prof. Lecasse: they haven't impeached any of his testimony.
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  865. They're both good at their jobs, but... bias can interfere with comprehension: I'm not being facetious. It's a real thing.
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  866. RealOne, are you 8?
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  867. Reading juror instructions quickly is not and never has been grounds for appeal. Reading the instructions is a mere formality: jurors have access to this information at all times.
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  868. ​ @StaceyJoy14  Other things are much more important. Pay attention, please.
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  869. He mentioned plastic surgery.
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  870. He and Judge Ashley are both pretty cool - especially compared to the over the top crew who also works on this channel.
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  871. Here ---> 🎻 Accompaniment for those sad lyrics.
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  872. ​ @Ther3rg  The difference between not being attached to someone and pure psychopathy is immense. Your comment makes it seem like murder under the circumstances is understandable.
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  873. I believe she's guilty. However, criticizing anyone at any level for picking up a pen is like something written by a person who took names in school.
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  874. Most of it's on another channel.
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  875. Yes. A sociopath is annoyed that a jury of her peers adjudicated her guilty of murder. It might be helpful to see the interview with the juror who discussed the reasons why, if you haven't seen it.
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  876. Vinnie, Vinnie. Fwiw, the reporter used a non-existent word - 'disagreeance' - describe Shiver's reaction to her husband's comments. A crime channel that murders the English language every day.
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  877. Hysterical that Donna washed the flipping money.
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  878. ​ @anjaxtv  'Literally"
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  879. Telles, Nicholas Rossi and Sarah Boone. Trifecta at the worst dinner party on earth. Hope these words are used against him by Judge Leavitt. Supercilious miscreant who not only ended Jeff's life but ruined his children's lives, too.
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  880. Eating my words re: disliking when folks say someone is guilty just because they think the person 'seems' guilty. Brooks Houck and Barry Morphew both long overdue for justice to rain down.
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  881. Julie, yet it's fine to object and then do the cross on her own terms. Jurors are capable of nuanced decisions, too, fwiw.
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  882. Right. Sadness for Liam and Abby while insisting on death penalty for their mother. To be clear - I hope Shanna and Mario get life. More killing won't fix or deter crime.
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  883. Sorry. That many makes him a Jedi, BUT... I've been sober and clean for 26 years and that much of a habit does occur.
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  884. 😂 💯
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  885. 😂
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  886. Alas, juries are asked to decide based on submitted evidence vs. YT commenters' speculation. (And I believe she's guilty.)
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  887. False equivalency, but nice display of Dunning-Kruger.
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  888. He's fascist. What he did on Jan. 6 alone should consign him to permanent ignominy. What about the fact that he's friendlier to the leaders of Russia and NK than he was to John McCain? Legit question. Such perfidy notwithstanding, plain old self-interest and financial corruption on his record surpasses belief. Fwiw, I'm no fan of Biden. Hard to think of a truth-telling Dem who is. But this is a fight for our very republic - against a tsunami of misinformation and bigotry. Trump is for everything we fought against in WWII. For all of her flaws, America had a light once. He's trying to extinguish it - mostly out of revenge.
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  889. Give her the damn guns. The police have been criminal to his family.
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  890. Maybe get out of the house more.
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  891. It's a drag that Jared's widow is going for the death penalty for Shanna. It's a lot more trauma in their lives. Do not pretend to love them and add to the killing. Justice is one thing. This is vindictive at great cost.
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  892. ​ @Maybe.later1  People are crazy to talk to LE before invoking rights.
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  893. Plenty of people have horrific mothers. Plenty without mothers have love and support and live complete lives. No sense dooming a kid.
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  894. Alec is awful: don't get me wrong. But the sanctimonious grandstanding of Court TV hosts get way over the top. We're all capable of understanding what is happening without your interpretation. Thank you.
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  895. ​ @lesleyhughes3174  Added to the men who start/fight endless wars and it's all just 💔ing.
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  896. Smooooth. The defendant will hear it the rest of his days.
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  897. Psycho. 🤦
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  898. Welcome to breathy, baby talk 'journalism', where true crime is a coffee klatch.
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  899. Her complaint is entirely legitimate: fwiw, I want Boone to serve her full sentence as much as anyone, but not knowing the difference between appellate protocol and Sarah's usual litany of unhinged rants points to Dunning-Kruger in the commenter... not Sarah.
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  900. ​ @JohnMack-f3f  PS You share a name with one of my heroes. (His book re: Lawrence of Arabia.) 🖖
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  901. A plea would be awesome. I know that bloodthirsty viewers will feel differently, but it's going to spare the families horrific details. Can't believe the moderator used Scooby-Doo lexicon. Good Lord.
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  902. Great guest. Balanced, calm, no yelling. Guess she won't be back. 😊
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  903. Clarifying: people who are regular viewers of Court TV - one of the premier tabloid legal channels - now displaying sanctimony towards an author with impeccable credentials - one who just happens to've written about a case we're all following. Next level irony.
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  904. Hoping to see a version of this exact program sans host baby talking @ 7th grade level content.
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  905. That's what that whole 'remanded to custody', handcuffs thing was about. Fwiw, she's in county jail post-conviction - as are most criminal defendants awaiting sentencing. It sounds like it'll a couple of months for PSI - pre-sentencing investigation - so it 9:50 may take a few months before she's transferred to whatever women's facility the state chooses. To think I was only irked that she was cuffed in the front. 😂
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  906. Maryann. You must be responding to another video. (YT jumbles comments at times.) Brad Simpson's been in jail for almost 2 months.
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  907. comawhite letting everyone see disregard for both the pesky Constitution and American jurisprudence. 😂
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  908. She is
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  909. I think the jury understands the level of plotting that she orchestrated for years.
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  910. With respect, you might want to edit your comment. (Spelling of 'Bible') Fwiw, to most of us who've had NDEs, spirituality is to religion what tsunamis are to water droplets. Fear-mongering has no effect.
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  911. Announcing an incomplete education.
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  912. FYI, if and when Wendi is arrested, etc, it's up to HER where the kids go - not up to the sofa ninjas on YT who clamor,albeit rightly, for justice. Fgs, please pay attention to the actual law.
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  913. ​@brendamcdonall5798 Karen, miles to go before you replace Strunk & White. Besides, we knew what he meant.
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  914. Not that have been released to the public.
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  915. Exactly. Our system is failing - recidivism is highest in the US. Prisons are monster factories. Rehabilitation can occur in a lot of areas. I'm not suggesting coddling, but slave labor and the private corporation-owned system is horrific. The Crumbleys aren't even parents: they just birthed him
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  916. Lol this isn't about us. They have the chairs to help with the effects of interminable boredom in court. Tbh we'd both use rocking chairs if we were in the same position.
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  917. Matt, Ted, John Ayala, and Judge Ashley don't scream or baby talk like a few others. Adult presentation appreciated.
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  918. She just goofed BIG TIME. Here's why... Now, if he's convicted, it'll be tossed out on appeal, since it's totally within his rights to get a new attorney mid-trial. It's about defendant rights - not her whims. Awaiting the opprobrium to get to this judge. What a clown move she's making.
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  919. 😂😂😂
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  920. Impossible to gauge honesty in this circumstance, but I found Austin credible and compelling. His testimony also made Monica and Baker seem - to use a legal term - creepier. 😊
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  921. Pretty much the opposite. 😂 What's your CV?
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  922. He blamed alcohol: he didn't take responsibility. Will he now say the murder of Jeff German was black-out behavior, as well?
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  923. Why those little... obfuscating so and sos. The implication that the feds, at least, are reamimating the (Will) Hays Code is profane in itself. Bet the Alexander Bros. wish they launched this salvo first. Appreciate the panel.
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  924. Shay = one more Karen
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  925. She may deserve Elon, after all.
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  926. Yes. And look at the numbers of views they're getting for sensationalism. Reckon we're playing into it by being here. Nevertheless, it's awesome to see balanced commentators. And ones who can spell. 😊
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  927. Michelle Triconis had one, too. Defendants have that right to assist in their defense.
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  928. Plenty of info online in news sources. (Not being facetious - letting you know.)
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  929. Definitely criminal responsibility. Sentence is 18 months max. Hardly seems like enough. Fwiw, I've acted on film/TV sets for decades. The last thing anyone expects is a live round. It's on her, in terms of criminal responsibility. Baldwin is liable civilly as an EP, imo, but not as an actor. Souza was right: live rounds are unheard of - even on low-budget sets.
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  930. Had no idea they had that much evidence about the whole family. With a prosecutor this good, let's hope they can at least charge Wendi and Donna. I know it's incredibly redundant in here re: wanting final justice: I think a big part of it is the utter hubris of the Adelmans - every one of them. Wendi's smirk is the stuff of bad dreams. May peace find Dan's family and especially his sons. Finally - hard to imagine them getting any kind of therapy in their bizarre circumstances, but their trauma - hidden and otherwise - needs to find healing.
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  931. That's your biggest fear? This might require a bit of scrutiny. What would you say to anyone who told you that?
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  932. The murder defendant's name is Meagan Jackson, not Marie, fwiw... and she was toast before. Now she's burnt.
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  933. Exactly. Exacerbating the wounds. Thank you..(I had to stop watching this termagant 'mother'.) Scary comments here.
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  934. Ha! Just tried it with Nancy Grace and she sounds even more deranged.
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  935. As my grandmother used to say, 'Just listen to yourself.'
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  936. But, darn it, he says, '... different than... ' and it's ALWAYS, '... different FROM..." Yep. Stickler for correct grammar, too.
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  937. Unhinged take. Leave religion out of it. That's one of the best things our Founders did, i.e., ensuring separation of church and state.
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  938. Full length version of the trial is on different YT channels.
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  939. To those who think Donna was behind this, she was crying afterwards: I believe this is all Charlie's doing. Was the last to get into the schadenfreude train about him because I thought justice was enough, but hey. Glad he'll feel his first South Dakota winter.
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  940. ​ @cartergomez5390  I'm using them now.
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  941. Yard workers all over Vegas wear the identical garb in hot weather: it's why he chose it. The discovery of the matching shoes, hat and bag are far more than coincidence: added to his DNA and unique gait? Slam dunk conviction.
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  942. Dunning-Kruger comment...in neon.
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  943. Can hear fine.
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  944. Suzanne.
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  945. It was far from a death penalty case. Plenty of interviews from experts discussing why, too.
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  946. I'm sure they're taking notes.
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  947. First hearing that Melani Gibb was one of the last people to see JJ. What must her soul feel like now? Am hardly in a position to realize the legalities of her role, ie what she knew, when, etc, but wonder if she impedes justice in any way...at least. Fwiw, I think Brandon is haunted enough for both of them. And Melani's current husband seemed to dislike Lori early on, as well. I'm aware these are partially-informed musings. It just seems like there are more people involved than Lori, Chad and Alex. Take care, everyone.
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  948. Emotions don't mean they are presenting proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
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  949. But he DOES have the right. (I want him to be convicted, too, but she's wrong here.)
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  950. Hard to know where to begin: it's basic American jurisprudence and a Constitutionally protected right for all defendants.
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  951. Julie pearl clutching re: Kevin's scary presence. They still shot an unarmed man in his own yard: they knew he was in his own yard. Why Court TV is the Lifetime Network of news outlets. At least give the other side a voice, too.
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  952. Nope. He loved his dad. If anyone helped, it was her bf. She would've pointed at Scott more directly if he'd had any culpability.
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  953. No visible emotion. Big difference.
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  954. I understand the ask, but not the thinly veiled threat re: her impending testimony that's vital for a murder conviction.
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  955. Yep. It's wild. Tbh, a couple of NDEs simplified it all for me. Now, even 'conventional' religion only serves tiny slivers of the huge, unconditional love I experienced. It's hardly like my experiences were unique, either. But they did make 'church Gods' seem petty - almost mean - by comparison. I like Quaker mtgs. for the vibes of people being together - and not just because they don't have preachers, but it's part of their charm. 😊 The mtgs are almost totally silent. ❤Paz y luz
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  956. 😂
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  957. Survivor C - The YT pharmacy is open.
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  958. Mr. Owens seems accomplished, humble, patient, informed and even courageous. (Four hours with Sarah Boone is no mean feat, and I'm not even being sarcastic... much.) YT watcher opinion without criminal trial experience: I think she'll be convicted. Maybe there'll still be appellate issues, i.e., not allowing a delay, but none that'll be enough to win.
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  959. Probably tomorrow - the way all trials do during weeks without holidays.
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  960. What's your CV?
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  961. Lol it's not about you. It's about getting an appeal proof conviction.
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  962. Plenty of folks think it does...as murder mysteries go, it's almost mundane.
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  963. The Murdaugh family influence in the country is all but decimated. Facts.
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  964. ​ @acoasterbro 😂
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  965. Approx 38:00, email created, it seems, for Tammy's benefit - so Chad could visit Lori without raising suspicion was a great link. Can't imagine how Charles felt when he discovered it.
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  966. ​ @MH-ds8cb After James Burke, Suffolk needed to step up.
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  967. Because Court TV has turned into something worse than tabloids: they feign being on high ground.
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  968. Convenient and disingenuous of him to ignore this aspect of the case.
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  969. I know Alex is guilty. We all do. But if these allegations are true, damn. New trial.
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  970. ​ @biglil711  I love watching Nancy vaporlock and her crazy sanpaku.
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  971. Sure, Karen.
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  972. I think ten years is fair with some suspended is fair. And no more kids ever. It doesn't recommend my character that I was glad to hear Ferriter was 'trembling' during his appearance in court. And this after only a few days in jail. Prison will be far worse. What insolence and cruelty and now to ask for mercy. To think he had too much hubris to take the plea deal. Karma finally rolling in.
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  973. NRA mentality is hate-filled and MAGA-sponsored.
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  974. Oh, right. They're for perfect humans. Glad for the clarification. 😂
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  975. And Brad Simpson
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  976. Exactly.
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  977. If you've read anything, you'd know the trove of evidence they have is voluminous. Seriously. Whether it's good or not remains to be seen.
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  978. Yet you're here commenting which ramps up the algorithm.
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  979. Hiya, Cousin Vinnie ~ Fwiw, having access to a curling iron doesn't mean Shanna's not in hell. Who knows? Maybe she'll get divorced and have a happily ever after with Barry Morphew.
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  980. All the shrill diatribes in the world aren't going to change anything. This is why the law exists. She's already being held without bond - an unusual step for someone without a felon background. Plus, her private conversations shouldn't be a shock to anyone. After all, she's driving drunk in the first place. Did anyone expect her to miss doing volunteer work? In this vein, it's also hard to see how a fair trial can happen in this small venue. She's the most hated person in the entire state. Negative press notwithstanding, I hope she has gets a good public defender. She's an unemployed adult - unless her parents want to spring for it, which it appears they're doing thus far.
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  981. Fwiw, it happened in '18.
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  982. Look up her old bf Jeffrey Lacasse. In days prior to the murder, she was trying to pin him down re: time of a trip he had planned to possibly blame him for it. Imo, it's very compelling evidence that she knew something was afoot. (His testimony on the stand and in police interviews are on YT.)
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  983. The schadenfreude is a tsunami.
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  984. The words 'pray' and 'prey' have vastly different meaning. In the instance of your comment, it bears noting.
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  985. ​ @mangos2888 😂 All the world hates a silent gasp.
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  986. Kind appraisal. Yet a murderer is in that wrecked psyche.
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  987. ​ @Mr.MermanPrince  The level of Dunning-Kruger here is thru the roof.
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  988. Thank you for posting this. Agree. Lest we all become Nancy Graces. And death jurors speaking with Julie turning American jurisprudence into wrestlemania.
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  989. Feigned concerned expressions. This is second-degree murder. Can't wait for cross-examination... and for Judge Kraynik's colloquy at her sentencing. This is disingenuous at best and monstrous at worst.
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  990. 😂😂😂
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  991. Shelley. Look up how many times circumstantial evidence results in convictions. It happens a lot.
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  992. I'm curious what grounds her lawyers will/would try re: appellate issue. (If it helps, those rarely succeed.) But due process is still one of the best things in American jurisprudence. Yeah, it's irksome for reeeaaally guilty people, but appeals have often 'fixed it' when errors at trials hurt a defendant. Judges hate when things are overturned, so they're mindful about the process. Let's hope that the verdict stands.
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  993. Infidelity doesn't have a physical 'type'. To say otherwise is akin to citing phrenology.
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  994. No, we don't. Fair trials are far more important than morbid curiosity.
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  995. Apparently the general IQ of the American public has been slipping through the years. It's disconcerting to say the least. People like the sensational vs staid facts. Folks like us are definitely in the minority.
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  996. Shaking his head. 'Tis beauty to behold.
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  997. Look up how many travel there safely each year.
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  998. I hope the defendant hears the judge's words - and Kay's - for eternity. RIP to her victims. Extra angels of comfort to their survivors. 🌎🍃🦋🔭✨🌙📿🙏💙
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  999. Patsy. Not pansy. Look it up.
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  1000. Did you even watch the video? (Lord, people are getting scary.)
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  1001. Fgs it's his network. Of course he would. It sates the morbid curiosity of the general public and has no concern for fair trials.
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  1002. Focus.
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  1003. ​ @sdraulitolito44  He's been free for eight years since the murder.
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  1004. Apparently not. Plenty of us followed why she lied to save herself in her own trial and then corroborated evidence in Charlie's. If everything - those puzzle pieces that backfired on Charlie - didn't fit so neatly, maybe we'd agree with your post.
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  1005. Check out the Behavior Panel for their assessment of Murdaugh's varied police interviews.
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  1006. Your comment makes no sense.
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  1007. That phone call was key in her conviction. It was one of the last pieces of evidence they asked to hear/see again.
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  1008. Border. Fgs
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  1009. ​ @JohnSmith-qt2ii  Stormtrooper mentality.
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  1010. It is ridiculous.
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  1011. Sherry. Mighty excitable.
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  1012. Sofa ninja drama has zero connection to legal circumstances.
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  1013. The 'expert' attorneys guesting on Court TV don't bother to read the up on the case history before 'splaining' things to an audience who's better informed? You guys are already 1/8" above TMZ. At least try. (And please don't let Nancy Grace back on the channel.)
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  1014. It's spelled 'conducive' and used antithetically in your comment.
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  1015. ​ @205ken4  💯
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  1016. Belief that extradition laws don't apply to US citizens. (But the one-way ticket was critical error.)
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  1017. It's still our system of justice. I believe he's guilty, but he still has rights. Dammit.
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  1018. They're listening. 🙏
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  1019. Shrieking in caps not necessary. We all read at the same volume. Take care.
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  1020. 💯
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  1021. All of our comments are only speculative: none of us has enough influence to render any kind of verdict. Sofa ninjas notwithstanding, I believe he's guilty. As tough as it is on the families, hope we can all remember that juries have a way of getting it right.
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  1022. At first, I wondered if the Dunning-Kruger effect was in their DNA: then I looked up the difference between that and hubris, since both traits are evident in both Charlie and Donna. Fwiw, according to the DSM-5, the former can morph into the latter. That makes sense. They aren't dumb: they just reeeaaally overestimated their own cranial capacity... and underestimated the intelligence of others. Here's to justice coming in like a wrecking ball.
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  1023. Sofa ninja Karens get karma, too.
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  1024. John. That's downright imbalanced. Seriously.
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  1025. ​ @laurenmoger7413  Hard th believe the density coupled with the Karen in some folks. 😂
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  1026. 💯 I always thought this was about money more than anything.
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  1027. Folks, it's not impossible. I know it's hard to believe, but it happens.
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  1028. He's a bit redundant and emotional.
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  1029. Exactly. But they have to put on a spirited, intelligent defense. It must be a lot tougher in cases like A.M. and Randolph. when they're just sooo guilty. 😂
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  1030. The YT channel Surviving the Survivors has great videos about the Markel case: for those who hope Wendi is indicted, you may like it most of all.
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  1031. I miss Cynthia McFadden 😂 Back before Court TV became the National Enquirer of legal 'journalism'.
    1
  1032. Unfortunately, the weird combo of her forced pro se circumstance and various subsequent rulings may open avenues of appeal.
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  1033. Mirroring and projecting. The stuff of DSM-5.
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  1034. Whether it's viewed or not has no effect on real or perceived corruption. (People are morbidly curious: admitting it is a first step.)
    1
  1035. Majority of legal experts disagree - thus far.
    1
  1036. Mo's Mom, Karen, made the most moving tribute to her girl. I hope the words ring in K.A.'s ears for a very long time. Peace
    1
  1037. Exactly. Why is she on ANY program!? (I believe Read was not guilty based on reasonable doubt, but the conspiracy stuff is absurd.)
    1
  1038. Focus. 😊
    1
  1039. You're simply speculating. Why? Because he had the temerity to sit behind his dad during the trial? A lot of family members, for different reasons, are in denial about what their relatives have done.
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  1040. Judge ended up eviscerating her with a honey-coated blade.
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  1041. Extraordinary prosecutor.
    1
  1042. 🤣
    1
  1043. 😂
    1
  1044. Agree. Thank you.
    1
  1045. Bruh. 😂 The chick even said she mixed his drink. Zero proof Eric used anything but THC gummies. But hey. Shriek away. It obviously does you good.
    1
  1046. ​ @johnsmith-ug5tp  Hybristophilia is real, per the DSM-5. And you're not the only one to get it over the likes of Kouri Richens. (Shanna Gardner, too, for that matter. It's a drag, considering the nice chicks out there.)
    1
  1047. ​ @pamelasmith6221  Lol fan girling killers isn't that uncommon. Weird to see. I want a fair trial but the whole 'poor boy' thing is a bit much. Even his own family thinks he's sus.
    1
  1048. He sold out years ago: apparently, it's been quite profitable for him. Fwiw, today is one of his calmer ones.
    1
  1049. Good grief. That's a racist comment and here's why... To presume anyone will modify the process due to their race is a presumption that says far more about the commentator the than reality.
    1
  1050. Exactly. It was his life. Vinnie can be a caricature at times.
    1
  1051. Yo. Stop self-trepanning, merkin head. FYI, Laken's entire family and her friends are there. Delete your account.
    1
  1052. ​ @Paige_marie215 There's no need to insult folks for expressing opinion - even if they're clearly mistaken.
    1
  1053. A bit of jail time and definitely a heavy fine is called for. She's hurt other POC - I've read the usual racist cant in comments. For God's sake. We've become such a hate-filled nation and it will be - it is - our undoing.
    1
  1054. 💯 And the lowering of viewers' collective IQ is the aftereffect. Look at the comments. 😂
    1
  1055. Man, I LOVE that movie. Might've laughed as hard at that as any movie I've seen. 😂 (If anyone's curious, it's "The Other Guys" w/z Will and Mark Wahlberg.)
    1
  1056. A lot of states have laws re: profiting from one's crime post-conviction. (It may be federal: I need to look it up.) 😊
    1
  1057. Our nation is gun-crazed and filled with next level Dunning-Kruger effect people. The combination will be the undoing of our republic.
    1
  1058. You think she needed a better class dealer? Oy.
    1
  1059. ​ @CuriousGirl2  Please learn something re: American jurisprudence. PSIs are a legitimate part of the legal process - and important to BOTH sides.
    1
  1060. Here ----> 🎻 To accompany the sad song.
    1
  1061. This crime and others like it are - statistically speaking - extremely rare. Watching a lot of violent true crime can definitely skew one's notion of reality. Or... folks looking for reasons to avoid relationships can make excuses by using such cases as examples.
    1
  1062. She was 19. How comfortable some folks are to judge at a distance without knowing any of the details. Couch ninjas never stop. 🤦
    1
  1063. It's his job. But I get it.
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  1064. 💯 That baby voice, too. But at least Court TV isn't employing Nancy Grace: she's just been on L&C channel and it was a shock since their anchors are usually legit.
    1
  1065. 💯
    1
  1066. Then you haven't followed the case closely. Wendy tried to set up her old boyfriend for the killing. (Prof. Jeffrey Lacasse - and it's not just his testimony. It's backed up in texts.)
    1
  1067. ​ @thenightporter 🤦
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  1068. Unlike psychopaths, sociopaths are capable of high drama. The juror who spoke out afterward made a lot of sense re: the fact that she was the only one who knew Gary was dead and more. But remember that the decision not to testify was hers.
    1
  1069. They're still married.
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  1070. ​ @Piat65  Carrying a knife, too. I'm prejudiced re: his mindset based on his social media, tho.
    1
  1071. Learn even one iota re: American jurisprudence. (Court TV fans = Matlock crowd)
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  1072. ​ @mccartney6404  The readiness to accept this insane Odin theory is proof that Dunning-Kruger effect is at Defcon-4 in the US.
    1
  1073. ​ @amnika2536 😂
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  1074. ​ @littleredhen976  💯
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  1075. I feel this way about first responders in general. They see and do things that are necessary and that would be unbearable for 99% of us to even contemplate.
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  1076. Lol I'm more impressed with opinions of those who have the CV and awareness of evidence. The circumstantial evidence alone is extremely powerful - and before folks have fits, note the many convictions result in murder cases with ZERO physical evidence. A modicum of research can provide the stats. B.K.'s team has their work cut out for them - just as much as the state.
    1
  1077. Not really. They're doing the best job with the facts at hand. A little objectivity required.
    1
  1078. No, you're not the only one. Not by a long shot. Just temporarily outvoted by religious fear-mongers. 😊
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  1079. Wendi will not be charged with a major crime. Listening to experts can apprise one of the reasons why. Is it a drag? Yeah. But facts.
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  1080. I'm sure they couldn't do the investigation without checking the comment section for Court TV first.
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  1081. ​ @yvettethomas5533  I hope their whole house of cards falls in on them.
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  1082. Good you're paying attention to what's important.
    1
  1083. Definitely room here for what's called 'plausible denial'. Adding irony to the mix, a separate and disingenuous tendency occurs in those who equate individual violent crimes with any single politician. It doesn't work like that - even if it feels all snuggly to insist otherwise. Apropos of the poster's rage, hate crimes in the US have skyrocketed since 2016 - ones involving race, se*ual identification and faith... assuredly by both ends of the political spectrum. However - and statistics bear this out - the great majority of them are committed by those on the far right. It doesn't require a math degree to see the correlation between that reality and another administration.
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  1084. I don't agree the DP should ever happen. It is a bit ironic that a lot of religious folks support its use. What a time in which we live.
    1
  1085. He was there for fifteen minutes.
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  1086. Did you even listen to this?
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  1087. Sofa ninja has entered the chat. 😂
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  1088. ​ @MissMeggypoo  Except it's a legit remark in his case... Besides being a self-professed 'man of God', Sehmer's a bona fide Trumper - one who liked to yell at establishments that had pride flags.
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  1089. Read up on American jurisprudence.
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  1090. ​ @KatlynJShute  Fwiw, overwhelming majority of (legal) opinions point to a failed appeal - which will take years.
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  1091. Graciaa¡
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  1092. Yayyyy, Joel.
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  1093. Jib.
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  1094. Yes. Everything you said. The unhinged rants are helping no one at any level. Thank you.
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  1095. Great day for American justice... on both sides of the country.
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  1096. What are you even saying?
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  1097. That doesn't necessarily mean that the judge changes: look it up.
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  1098. 😂 Sofa ninjas again.
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  1099. Emotional reactions vs American jurisprudence. That's why these are called legal proceedings and not cry-fests.
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  1100. Unless we're well-versed in the contents of the DSM-5 - but probably not even then - no one can say with any measure of certainty what brings such crimes into play. But Dunning-Kruger can also run amok in the comments section.
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  1101. ​ @sherrydmyterko-tramp8654  Awesome to see reasonable comments on YT... getting rarer by the day.
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  1102. ​ @Arti-iChi Trileptal. 100% false equivalency.
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  1103. She's still in for 90 years. We differ re: whether it even matters about rehabilitation, frankly. She's had 1000 chances to display one iota of humanity and failed at all of them. Some souls just aren't home. Rest in peace, Mo. Extra angels of comfort to your loved ones. (And ignore those who minimize your loss here.)
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  1104. Look at the rules again. This is a legit issue.
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  1105. ​ @offgridjack5779  Fgs. Sofa ninja perfection. 🤦
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  1106. ​ @marion3878 Yet she only got 16 years. Maybe that was the maximum time proscribed by law: it just doesn't seem fair.
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  1107. Two anchors who baby talk is two too many. (But at least Nancy Grace isn't here.)
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  1108. Only half of US homicides are ever solved. A great deal never comes to light, I'm afraid.
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  1109. It helps to remember how powerful circumstantial evidence is re: securing good convictions. Cases are won all the time without any physical evidence.
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  1110. 😶
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  1111. Yet many of her objections were sustained. That means she knows what she's doing. Folks forget she deserves a good defense... no matter how guilty she 'seems'.
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  1112. Lol she was at manicurist earlier that day.
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  1113. She's refused even discussions re: plea deals from the very beginning. (Her new attorney, Owens, said this in a brief interview as soon as he took her case.)
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  1114. ​@martinwhite418 Folks need new words re: the perfidy of humans... because animals are pretty perfect.
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  1115. 🎻
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  1116. Shuddering 😂
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  1117. Snaky judge... and I don't mean to maligm snakes.
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  1118. They pretty much said that exact thing several times during the video.
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  1119. Big difference between incompetence and insanity. What's your CV?
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  1120. MAGA evangelicals are right up there.
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  1121. Fgs. Why?
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  1122. Animals aren't capable of evil. They rely on biologically embedded survival techniques to control their behavior. Apart from stalking prey - also in their DNA - they do not exhibit behavior even close to the brutality humans employ. We're going to have to come up with better similes for the worst humans' malevolent acts. Animals might be scary, but they're innocent.
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  1123. ​ @annak8755  This isn't a law in very many states, but you could check statutes in Idaho.
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  1124. Nacrelli's instability has surfaced a few times since her arrest, such as yelling at a witness during a previous hearing.
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  1125. The judge had the right to clear the court and did not, so there's that. And the judge - not reporter - was defending American jurisprudence, not the (convicted) defendant. We've become a society of violent incivility: it has nothing to do with how we feel about Albulaban. Tbh, I understand both sides. The guy brings out hate, but rising above it is mature.
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  1126. She won't get life. It's absurd to think so.
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  1127. It's almost as if we needed his humanity in the face of so much evil tbh
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  1128. Murders happen daily. People understandably get more upset when the victims are children, but it's huge to have a criminal ex-POTUS... one who's able to run under our Constitution. Dark days in our republic.
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  1129. What you know re: American jurisprudence could fit in a hotel room sewing kit thimble.
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  1130. Degrees are rarely revoked, even in cases of criminal conviction.
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  1131. They didn't for enough of it. 💔
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  1132. Experts at the FBI, state and local agencies all believe in the guilt of Kohberger. It's very important that his due process is protected, but ironic beyond measure that so many YT sofa ninjas don't think they've got a good case against him. Dunning-Kruger in America is next level. Justice is coming.
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  1133. Ah, Sunny starting in with all caps and shrieking.
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  1134. Fwiw, the YT channel @TheLegalGood is where I've been watching the Telles trial. He's a likeable attorney who's never bombastic and explains things without hubris. (And he doesn't yell.) 🙃
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  1135. 49% of US judges are female. 💪
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  1136. All the outrage in the comment sections. Guys. Look up "Ain't it Awful" in the book, "Games People Play".
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  1137. ​ @carolinelemay8621  Old mean biddy vibes. What's it do for you?
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  1138. 😂
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  1139. Ok, couch ninja.
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  1140. The defendant has a say in how quickly they go to trial.
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  1141. ​​ @sarahallenhumboldt2638  This was the house where he committed SA against a 9 year old girl and her mother. It's where they got his DNA Please delete your account.
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  1142. Her texts to the dealer and the woman's testimony will be damning. The people who are saying those cops were having panic attacks are listening to one source, fgs.
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  1143. God loves us all unconditionally: He has no favorites. Eyes on our own paper. ❤ Paz y luz
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  1144. Like you're an attorney without a command of basic grammar. Wait. It could happen.
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  1145. Julie, there was some question re: her relationship with Andrews. His children weren't sure of the extent of it, i.e., if they were romantically involved. Boxley told someone she felt unappreciated by him, fwiw.
    1
  1146. When Dunning-Kruger enters the chat.
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  1147. Oh man. Now I can't get the Grinch face out of my head. 😂
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  1148. For all her flaws, America had a light once. It's sputtering out thanks to armed fascism and levels of hate that are metastasizing by the day.
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  1149. We don't know what he 'contemplated'. We can only presume, bro.
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  1150. He makes a good point re: existing law, but probably won't succeed. But she has every right to appeal and ask for freedom in the meantime. Troubling lack of insight and general knowledge in comments, tho. The Dunning-Kruger tsunami is real. (It's not about the teachers.)
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  1151. Exactly. I've only read different parts of the 'James and Elena' story. It's middle-school tripe, at best. Yet Lori and his followers thought he was a veritable Faulkner.
    1
  1152. 😂 It worked exactly the way they wanted.
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  1153. Wrapped.
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  1154. Exactly - I think someone testified to that effect, as well.
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  1155. Letting everyone know your own CV.
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  1156. Bet you're a "Christian" lol.
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  1157. They retired.
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  1158. Then why did Narcan help?
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  1159. ​ @KristinaUSA-x5n  Kristina = Karen
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  1160. Blood money?
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  1161. PS, people must absolutely run fast and far when they see you coming.
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  1162. ​ @tinawindham6958  Thank you for saying this. All these sofa ninjas and their justice comments. Oy.
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  1163. And your CV is?
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  1164. Her lawyers are now public defenders.
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  1165. ​ @Kdeakin2615 And it's 'you're'. 😂
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  1166. Yet pets were never found there.
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  1167. 31:30 She means the defense, not the prosecution in her comments about the 135 page fairy tale.
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  1168. Captions?
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  1169. Hope. Your expertise re: American jurisprudence ... 😂
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  1170. ​ @Tony.716  There are lots of ensouled lawyers - even for the defense. Unfortunately, the bleak exceptions loom large.
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  1171. Yes.
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  1172. Misogyny takes so many forms. But the fact remains that 85% of DV female victim homicides are committed by men.
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  1173. Go to the timeline, Karen.
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  1174. It's spelled 'click'.
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  1175. It's about ratings. When their channel launched - and I'm old enough to remember 😊 - they were more buttoned down re: legit trials and zen reporters. Love this guy, Julia Jenae and Matt Johnson, but Vinnie's gotten like - ack - Nancy Grace.
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  1176. 50% of homicides go unsolved, fwiw. So getting away with it happens a lot.
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  1177. She even insisted she'd hit a sign instead of a human being.
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  1178. Good thing juries rely on evidence vs assumptions based on armchair psychology.
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  1179. Kindly don't blast the volume. We're already tuned in and listening: it's unnecessary. Thank you ~
    1
  1180. Learn something about American jurisprudence.
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  1181. Even very intelligent people do stupid things. We simply don't have all of the facts: recent trials should show us that much. Whether we like it or not, we must be patient. We're just being entertained until evidence is submitted via legit circumstances.
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  1182. Let's all hope that Boone's due process isn't impeded. Otherwise, after her conviction, appellate issues could result in us seeing/hearing her... more.
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  1183. Point missing
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  1184. Both the state and the defense asked that cameras be excluded: it's about a fair trial, not a curious public. Read even a little bit about jurisprudence in the US. 😂
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  1185. It's SOP for anyone arrested for major (capital) crimes.
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  1186. I think Barry Morphew's daughters could also be afraid of him.
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  1187. Are you saying most parents abuse their kids?! Please tell us you don't have children.
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  1188. 🤦‍♂️
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  1189. Why does disagreeing with someone necessitate name-calling? It just points to limited emotional/intelligence and does not move the debate any closer to the truth. (The trollery of Nancy Grace has had an awful effect on true crime.)
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  1190. Imagining the richness of your interior life.
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  1191. Always good to focus on what's most important re: news of a brutal unsolved crime.
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  1192. ​ @alvaroq2024  But people take that many in a day. It's entirely possible.
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  1193. Let's all remember that Alex Murdaugh will be in prison for the rest of his life based on his financial crimes alone.
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  1194. What part is a lie, please? I'm sorry this is happening - and hope Chad gets to spend the rest of his life in prison. May angels of comfort meet you on life's path. Rest in paradise and peace, J.J. and Tylee. 🙏💙✨
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  1195. If you're close up on SB for the polling of the jury, you'll see her lurch a bit when #3 speaks out.
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  1196. 🎻
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  1197. No one lied for him.
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  1198. It's not a deterrent. 2% of counties in the US have the great majority of death row cases - and the highest rates of mu*der. Delete your account.
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  1199. It was manslaughter... but karma roĺls.
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  1200. Sure hope the Innocence Project takes this case: too many sus angles to get this conviction. (And it happens more than we know about.
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  1201. 😂😂
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  1202. I'm tired of hearing MAGA defense of Stines and demonizing a good man. The sheriff shot Judge Mullins multiple times: let his lawyers do battle on his behalf.
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  1203. 😂 Seriously? It's Kentucky, fgs. They just about have PopTarts flavored chewing tobacco. (Look up their smoking rates and education level, national ranking.)
    1
  1204. ​ @therose5783  🤦
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  1205. Definition.
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  1206. ​ @Jessesgirl0307  😂
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  1207. Fwiw, I've acted in film and TV for decades, using guns in different productions: you're absolutely right. The last thing in the world an actor, crew member, etc., would expect is a live round on set. It's stunning that it's gotten this far - and that more people in the industry haven't been bringing up this very thing. Halyna's death was both a tragedy and a crime. I realize that the prosecutor was under enormous pressure but, imo, Alec has been overcharged. Hannah probably wishes she'd done a hundred things differently. I get it. I think she'll regret not taking a deal. (And I may be mistaken to believe one was even available.) Hiring an armorer that young - maybe on the cheap - speaks to the producers: that'll undoubtedly factor into a civil trial. If they want to go after Baldwin, that's the place to do it. Take care, people. We're still in this together.
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  1208. His compassion matters, too. And I agree with everything you wrote.
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  1209. It's the kind of thing a 9 year-old might notice.
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  1210. ​ @stlounsbury 💯
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  1211. And read about the Borgias.
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  1212. 😂
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  1213. ... acquire thy Dunning-Kruger hats.
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  1214. That's not an excuse. It was permission. Vital difference.
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  1215. Pretty sure she hasn't seen the beginning of 'tough'.
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  1216. Um. Defendants aren't manacled unless and until they're convicted. Didn't Matlock teach you anything?
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  1217. It's pornography. Use your imagination.
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  1218. 😂
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  1219. Guilty? 😂
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  1220. Sexist comment. Disingenuous and ill-informed. Join the 21st century.
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  1221. Finally, a reasonable comment. Am wondering if the enhancements - the kind added in Robert Telles' case - may add considerable time to a basic recommendation. (Fwiw, since the jury in Telles' trial recommended life with possibility of parole at 20 years, I hope Judge Leavitt makes the enhancements consecutive vs. concurrent.) I don't know enough about DR's past felony convictions, but the judge will. In the end, his sentence will be a result of his own choices - including not to take his meds for days prior to the attack on the judge.
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  1222. ​ @8Platinum8  Hi thank you - I saw it last night. Definitely appreciated her brevity after this. 😊
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  1223. Absurd equivalency. Just sayin'.
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  1224. What's your CV? He's one of the most brilliant defense attorneys in that area. Facts.
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  1225. This is incorrect. The defense and the state both asked that cameras be excluded. The judge simply agreed. It helps to follow what's actually happening.
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  1226. Truth x 1,000,000
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  1227. ​ @FOXYNYLA Luz. Charlie has an excellent attorney. Fwiw, real life trials are different from TV dramas.
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  1228. ​ @Straightahead101  🤦 "You're".
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  1229. You can't be serious. Get your Dunning-Kruger hat on the way out.
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  1230. Hope it's ok to correct: it's 'should have taken' not 'should have took'.
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  1231. ​ @paranoidaudience You waited? 😂 As if it concerns any of us in the least.
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  1232. 😂 Anyone who chooses one fairy tale over another - and judges based on that - is equally deluded. God loves all of us equally, eternally, immensely and without exception.
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  1233. Even if one juror in a potential retrial finds reasonable doubt, you're right: his sentencing for the myriad financial crimes will equate to life in prison. It sounds mean, but I hope he gets his hopes built up big time and crashes into dust.
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  1234. With all that's wrong in life - the horrific DV, etc - maybe some of the YT sanctimonious sofa ninjas can leave this family alone. Yeah, it's a drag, but fgs, outrage junkies, give it a rest.
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  1235. Like God has favorites.
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  1236. Oh, please. Ask any trial attorney: Prior did a very good job - especially considering that he tried to get out of representing CD in the beginning. He did all of the work without any assistance: everyone else had a team. He must be exhausted. Wish people would learn rudiments of American jurisprudence before they go off on people who are doing exactly what they're supposed to be doing.
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  1237. It's in the trial: it is evidence.
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  1238. 😂 It's YT.
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  1239. ​ @wildchild307  You're in a rather small minority.
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  1240. Lol God knows you've watched enough of our idiots: glad we could present a witness who did the legal/medical profession proud. 🙋🇬🇧
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  1241. 💯 💔
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  1242. The folks excited about open season on unarmed people hardly seem human themselves. Instead of Redcoats threatening our republic in its infancy, it's the red hats.
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  1243. Read a book.
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  1244. And Nancy Grace is their gore-loving goddess.
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  1245. Imagine how horrible about reversal would feel in the event of a conviction, though.
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  1246. 😂 What's your CV?
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  1247. Harris/Walz winning in '24 💙🇺🇸
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  1248. Sextant.
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  1249. You shriek the same thing in every comment. Relax, chica. Thanks to at least a million NDEs, people are realizing that God's only unconditional love... one without favorites. There have always been prophets of doom. Religion is a droplet of water compared to the ocean of spirituality.
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  1250. Bias confirmation present on both sides. Good convictions - appeal-proof ones - have arisen from circumstantial cases. But the state needs to be forthcoming with all evidence or they'll take it off the table. (It's what happened in the Vallow trial.)
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  1251. Only barbaric countries still employ the death penalty.
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  1252. ​ @joni8090  🤣😆😂
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  1253. That won't happen.
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  1254. ​ @richardbutler9217  I thought that in the beginning, but I now believe he acted alone. Plus, since this, the timeline was played out in court in such detail, too - I just don't see anyone else fitting in.
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  1255. I think acute self-consciousness added to being vilified helps. 😂
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  1256. It's distressing, I know. Can't figure out why she wasn't given a lot more time. I feel for Mike and hope he can get parole or some kind of appeal
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  1257. It's bizarre that all of their children believe in their father's innocence.
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  1258. ​ @StompingRabbits  Karma rolling. Duck.
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  1259. Right and wrong isn't subjective. There are definitely examples of it: it's disingenuous to say otherwise.
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  1260. What an elegant fan.
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  1261. 😂😂
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  1262. Frame that G.E.D.
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  1263. We know It's the point of the trial
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  1264. 🤦 Glad you're nowhere near being on a jury... I hope.
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  1265. The commonwealth has a very strong case, nevertheless. If you saw the video and/or checked out several recent murder trials, you'll see how powerful circumstantial evidence can be. (Google the subject.) Plus, 86% of murder cases with missing bodies result in convictions. Brian Walshe is the proverbial cooked goose.
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  1266. Sorry this may not fit those guidelines... and there are so many who do and don't get help in our system.
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  1267. She's the only one who could've done it. She didn't testify by choice. Next.
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  1268. ​ @KristyFlattley9521  She was in a care facility. Julie should've mentioned that.
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  1269. ​ @theresachristie7150  😂
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  1270. To those who swear they'd run even if they didn't know he was accused: 😂
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  1271. It's why I'm amazed that people treat body language 'experts' like scientists. Granted, they are hired by multinational corporations and govt agencies for their expertise: such info is used with other material to get an overall picture of an individual. But - like polygraphs - there are great reasons it's not acceptable as testimony.
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  1272. What's your CV? Legit question.
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  1273. We all have strong feelings re: the crimes of A. Montgomery. Hoping I'm not the only one who doesn't appreciate dramatic rants by 'legal experts'. (But I do expect to be in the minority on this topic.) It's one thing when commentators shriek in all caps: it's quite another when Court TV has guests who supply vindictive, immoderate opinion. But hey... at least you haven't hired Nancy Grace.
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  1274. ​ @jesusisgod4992  Had no idea one of Jesus's followers could be so Karen. 😂 On second thought...
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  1275. 😂
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  1276. Nope. And legal experts don't think so, either... for the most part. It's why she probably won't face charges.
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  1277. Tbh there's nothing she can do not to further the process of demonization that's occurring in the 'gallery'. Make no mistake lol. I think she's guilty. But the comments about looks aren't part of what's germane in legal proceedings. Crazy how that works, isn't it?
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  1278. 😂 You guys selling subscriptions. Clicking in 3 seconds is that tough?
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  1279. Wow, I had no idea she turned down a plea deal. Hubris and stupidity are not a good mix.
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  1280. The defense attorney went into victim blaming immediately after the trial. I know they have a job to do, but her words were both cruel and disingenuous. It's a small thing, but also amazing that he got to hug his wife afterwards. Trying to think of that happening to POC - to 99.9 of convicted parties. Ah, and all the Karens in here complained about her low-cut top. You gotta love YouTube.
    1
  1281. Greeaat. Being hypercritical in seventh-grade mode - How does that make life better?
    1
  1282. Where's Vinnie?
    1
  1283. 😂
    1
  1284. It seems so, but all it would take is one person who thinks there's a reasonable doubt. On the other hand, Alex's financial crimes are good for 50 years - at least.
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  1285. A lot of commentators are whining about him.
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  1286. Smooth victim blaming.
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  1287. ​ @MR-gl9xu  One will be appointed for her.
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  1288. Of fgs. If she was crying, you'd say they were crocodile tears.
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  1289. They didn't have to find her guilty at all.
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  1290. Little Miss Jack Boots says what?
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  1291. Fwiw, headlines have been very impactful for over a century albeit via radio, newspapers, etc.: even film shorts were massively influential re: pre-trial opinion.
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  1292. Why the shrieking, please? Unnecessary.
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  1293. 🎻🎻
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  1294. Learn something about American jurisprudence. 😂
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  1295. We need new ways to describe evil people without demonizing animals - even snakes, because they're blameless. Humans are unique in our ability to conspire and commit cruel acts against other animals - including our own species.
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  1296. He wanted to know someone else's opinion: he wasn't asking for himself.
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  1297. His dad doesn't think Karen did it. I would've voted not guilty, but I think she hit him: they just didn't prove it.
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  1298. Yes, but that has nothing to do with this issue. Zilch.
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  1299. Get that incel t-shirt on the way out.
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  1300. I'm sure he'll resign from his court-appointed position of defense attorney and probably leave law altogether once he reads your scathing opinion.
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  1301. 😂
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  1302. Your opinion is also subjective and open to scrutiny.
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  1303. It's sad to have this much corruption high up. And his bigger crimes need to be prosecuted
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  1304. ​@elsavaldivia8493Yet I'll wager you didn't go to college. Being critical of her CV is disingenuous at best. She's asking the exact questions necessary to complete their case. She's not the lead prosecutor, either.
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  1305. You must not be reading/watching these articles/videos. It's not going to happen primarily based on the fact that she has immunity and that they have zero evidence... Our collective hunch isn't enough.
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  1306. You can't even spell it.
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  1307. It's the American system of jurisprudence. He's doing a great job. We need to be grateful for the fact that we're deserve a defense this good - no matter how dreadful the defendant. (And he's beyond dreadful - we know.)
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  1308. Great question. (Had no idea 100K was 'not a lot of money'.) The BBC may go after her for Hill's plagiarism. She lifted more than a few lines.
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  1309. Hoping they look at the spirit of the law.
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  1310. He's got a disability and it doesn't seem fair to hold him to the same level of accountability. Rudy's mom, on the other hand...yikes. It's all rather confusing. Here's hoping Rudy has genuine love and support and that his benefits go to his care - and only his care.
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  1311. MAGA grammar, spelling and false equivalencies = ✅️
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  1312. That's what's been in the previous reports. Glad that bullet was left there.
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  1313. Look up the Borgias.
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  1314. Sentencing in the US tends to run much longer than ones in other democratic countries. Statistics are easy enough to look up.
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  1315. ​ @James_Doyle83  You're right. Fwiw, Brad Simpson and his charged colleague Cotter are both huge Trumpers. (Not shocked.)
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  1316. Slaycor - You're not making one iota of sense.
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  1317. Yes, because your credentials in psychology and mind-reading are impeccable.
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  1318. Curious to know his diagnosis, too: I daresay that he's taking up at least a section in the DSM-5. However, the difference between legally insane and someone with an array of toxic traits is vast. Fwiw, while on the stand, Telles had the temerity to say that HE is the victim. That says as much about him as anything.
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  1319. ​ Fayw2023  Dense reply. DAs don't file felony murder charges on 'assumptions': the evidence is sealed for 30 days per the judge's ruling. Fyi, murder convictions have happened in cases without a body, too. Yet YT sofa ninjas chime in with witless one word rebuttals.
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  1320. ​@karlastewart4537 Rashbaum's a defense attorney. Many of his clients - especially potential ones - are surprisingly uninterested in an advocate's moral caliber. They want someone who will fight like hell - a trait wholly unconnected to sainthood.
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  1321. 9:00 '... the worst day of my life.' Jesus.
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  1322. 😂 Get that Dunning-Kruger hat.
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  1323. Please. I'm not defending Wendi, but this is absurd. HUGE Shark jump, Vinnie, on the whole 'sanpaku' - eye white - thing. It's false equivalency. Look at Nancy Grace btw 😂 She's got 3 whites showing. It means nothing.
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  1324. Folks are conflating her attorneys doing their job with negative traits that've nothing to do with reality. Piling on with emotional responses to complex murder trial minutiae must be exhausting.
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  1325. This is such a tough decision - and amazing to see the comments from people who don't find it so. His parents were as much at fault here. He was in agony and tried to tell people he needed help. We're such a rage-filled nation... and it's not working.
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  1326. Yet, the syrup of ipecac that Thomas Kinkade painted for decades probably delights thee. (Not a Warhol fan either, but the prissy kulture Karens are bemusing.
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  1327. We'd like to be shocked at some of the dense, shallow and vindictive remarks here, but... Murica.
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  1328. How great if he'd drop Shanna Gardner and agree. As it is, I fear both SG and SB will get away with murder.
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  1329. Decaf. Decaf.
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  1330. ​ @Resmith18SR  Just started? They've called 65 witnesses. 😂 And they haven't submitted a single piece of evidence leading to 'beyond a reasonable doubt'... yet. Tbh, it's interesting to hear at least a dozen well-respected American trial attorneys mentioning the same thing. They say that the prosecution leads with their strongest evidence: if it's happened in their case, it's not looking good.
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  1331. I'm sure they're poring over the YouTube comment section for state prosecution strategy.
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  1332. 😂
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  1333. What's your CV? 😂
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  1334. Use your browser fgs. 😂
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  1335. Just so grateful Nancy Grace isn't on Court TV. Thank you.
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  1336. She has a good defense attorney. What's your CV?
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  1337. He probably will be but to me he's like a fireman who refused to hook up a hose while people burn.
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  1338. This isn't death penalty stuff. Read up. It has to do with the level of proof. I want her convicted, too, but standards of jurisprudence takes precedence.
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  1339. It's not the only issue. Did you see the entire video?
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  1340. It's 'racist' and you're correct.
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  1341. I'm glad to see at least a few folks state this fact. However, vengeance feels good to the short-sighted. And they want their turn at the wheel - even if it means disregarding the distinctions between those who legitimately need hospitalization vs incorrigible violent criminals. US prisons have been monster factories for a long time and are only getting worse. The real insanity - not without its own irony - is failing to address reform. The idea that we're 'babying' people to get them treatment is already backfiring. But 'Murica'.
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  1342. Man. Fred Graham must be doing half-gainers in his coffin, to see what's become of Court TV. Today's panel was utter buffoonery. Apparently, that's what it takes to get viewers. And that says something sad about us.
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  1343. I'm surprised they didn't claim the supernatural gift of levitation.
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  1344. Those spewing bigotry while using words like 'liberty' in their YT label... on point and pitiable.
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  1345. And shrieking like a banshee in all caps helps.
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  1346. This judge is TCB. None of the early Judge Kraynik stuff.
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  1347. This may be an instance in which victim-blaming backfires. Levesque's exactly the kind of person who deserves a term in prison. Six shots, and five of them after Violette was on the ground, says it all.
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  1348. 💯💯💯
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  1349. I've acted in film and TV for decades. The last place on earth to have a live round is a set. It's unheard of. It's absurd to charge Alec criminally. But he needs to face civil court as a producer: they're responsible for the hire of HGR and the sloppy set.
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  1350. The circumstantial evidence is pretty strong: that's the kind that's gotten convictions in recent trials i.e. Murdaugh and Triconis. On the other hand, the lack of direct evidence will probably mean Daybell won't get the death penalty.
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  1351. ​@deadmanswi fe3625 Thanks to hundreds of thousands of NDE accounts - more, actually- at least people are aware of a God of unconditional love vs the cruel fictive one who has favorites.
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  1352. ​ @rosiew777  😅 The armchair ninja factor is through the roof in this case. There will be books written about the presumption of guilt.
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  1353. I'm not a fan of religion, period, but dislike the hypocrisy and irony of folks' interdenominational bigotry. I'll take up for anyone's right to believe without being insulted via sanctimonious 'Christians'. (Tho, sadly, I'm sure folks get Brownie points for saying such things.) The idea that God has favorites points to a deity who's both petty and - in the case of burning folks for eternity - cruel. We're all in this together. No one has coach seats in the afterlife, kids. 😊
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  1354. I remember when Court TV wasn't run by carny barkers.
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  1355. ​ @raerae2555 They didn't say every state had the death penalty: they said they had cases that warrant it. Why be so snarky? Says so much about the commentator.
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  1356. Fwiw, I've acted in film/ TV for decades: no one on any set expects live rounds. No one. It's unheard of. This goes for low-budget productions, as well. When we do handle guns, the armorer is right there with a very specific protocol. For someone like me, who'd never been around guns and was afraid of them, the entire procedure was reassuring and professional. Every weapon is cleared and examined by the armorer AND actor prior to each scene. At no time are guns left unattended. And, although it's the least important aspect of the job, I've never seen a prop cart in this kind of disarray - with or without weapons. I don't know the exact laws, so it's only my opinion, but it seems that only HGR is criminally responsible for Halyna's tragic death. As a producer, Baldwin will be liable in a civil court: as an actor, however, I don't see how he's charged criminally. Rest in peace, Halyna 💫
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  1357. ​ @godzillamanstreb524  Fgs, we all know that. No harm mentioning other innocent children in the hellish mix.
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  1358. And the state will have three saying that's nuts but not the psych manual variety.
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  1359. Maybe never. It's not our right to know.
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  1360. Living through red-faced emojis. Maybe end times isn't such a bad idea after all.
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  1361. A lot of folks disagree with you...and we can't stand Wendi either.
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  1362. Speculation at this point is baseless. Anyone would want a trial. Absurd couch ninja remarks already happening.
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  1363. Sorry for your loss. ✨️
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  1364. Couldn't believe he said that, either.
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  1365. Have been trying to find out more about their local PD history... without going back as far as Vinnie re: Sacco and Vanzetti. Tough to find without buying local paper subscription.
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  1366. Matthew Victor's salvo? 'I will submit to you that she's a mendacious harpy... ' 😂
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  1367. Could've seen. ❤
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  1368. ​ @ToyotaGuy1971  💯
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  1369. That's why we have browsers.
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  1370. Jared's widow says she loves his other children, but is pushing for the death penalty for their mom. 2% of counties in the US are responsible for the majority of death row cases. Of course, they're mostly 'Christian', too. Murica.
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  1371. Disingenuous comment. You saw the thumbnail. Please.
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  1372. Folks toss around the word 'monster', but it seems to fit Chad and Lori. They're both serial killers. Fwiw, I don't believe in the DP for any reason. (It's bizarre to see how many religious people lobby for it, too.) Rest in peace to Charles, Tylee, J.J. and Tammy
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  1373. Mindless remarks that have nothing to do with the substance of the crime being discussed.
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  1374. Ironically, you're unable to even spell the word.
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  1375. Court TV used to be a respectable source for legal insight, facts, etc. Now it's like Jerry Springer with better wardrobe. Vinnie yells like a wrestling color commentator. Perhaps that's why he's outlasted the old announcers. I like Jesse on the other channel, but he's got to do a bit of drama, too, just to keep the lowbrow vote. So am I being snobby? I don't have postgrad diploma and don't profess to be a legal expert. Far from it. But I do like old school objectivity and a bit of decorum lol. 😊
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  1376. She missed a chance to deny it. No one thinks these are false accusations, fwiw. Rebecca Hill has screwed up so much. Tip of the iceberg.
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  1377. It's not about a bunch of curious people. It's about a fair trial and both the defense and the state asked that cameras be excluded. I want to see it, too, but the whining is unbelievable.
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  1378. They'll definitely have access to her search history now. And - finally! - her phone. (Including everything she thought she deleted.)
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  1379. Wow. A series of kkkomentators' opinions in virtually all of one's remarks clarify something for the rest of us: TDS is definitely the provenance of MAGA. 🤣
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  1380. 😂
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  1381. 😂
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  1382. What is your CV?
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  1383. ​ @dorothyabdul9657  Their question is ironic.
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  1384. Tbh false equivalency. I've worked on low budget sets w/guns and the protocol was impeccable. (And I'm an actor who handled guns in roles.) HGR's performance - or lack thereof - is a glaring exception. Everything the prosecutor said was right.
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  1385. Krustine, doing a bit of day drinking, eh? If not, you're clearly in the throes of hybristophilia for Senor Walshe.
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  1386. ?
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  1387. ​ @marifrances3617 😂
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  1388. Man, he's right. The credential-free hubris on display is next level. All this panel was missing were the flared nostrils of Nancy Grace. Court TV is giving airtime to guests who specialize in sensationalism. I get it: it's good for views, but not for those of us who appreciate sapience and a balanced approach to American jurisprudence. Fortunately, Read's lawyers are doing a great job poking holes in a weak case. Let's see what the commonwealth plans for the 'second half'. Paz y luz
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  1389. Google.
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  1390. ​ @tarod3653 Agree.
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  1391. Betrayer of so many people and ideals. Go away, Jussie Santos.
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  1392. It's been a long case and, though she's definitely guilty, complicated. Tbh, if you Google Erica Stefanko, lots of info comes up.
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  1393. I know it's not funny, but fgs, she's beyond belief.
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  1394. ​ @sodapop83  At least Prior is putting up good legal arguments. Lori's attorneys were totally ineffective.
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  1395. The evidence is pretty impressive. In the interest of a fair trial, I hope it's not televised. But the investigation was impressive. It's naive to think otherwise.
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  1396. Folks watch legal channels w/out paying a lick of attention to American jurisprudence.
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  1397. Liam... and a bit of the stentorian voice. 😊
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  1398. Right. This is all about hunches and emojis.
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  1399. What are you even saying? He's already been convicted. He's guilty. (And, notwithstanding respect for good LEOs, plenty of cops have committed murder.)
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  1400. We've all got habits. Relax.
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  1401. Name one religion that doesn't have ridiculous tenets in some aspect of it. You don't have to be condescending and snarky about all of LDS. Besides, hubris and mockery point to the commentator.
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  1402. Fgs what's up with you guys!? They are from the same geographic region. Were you born 4 days ago?
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  1403. All the Karens in full force won't listen to M.T. 😂
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  1404. Ha - in the eyes.
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  1405. Beauty queen, sure, but we're leaving out Lindsay's Mensa membership.
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  1406. A lot of big corporations and the FBI use it in daily operations.
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  1407. ​ @aligooding5454  🤦
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  1408. I'm glad I'm not you.
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  1409. The legal system is absolutely working to secure a conviction. The legal process may not suit everyone, but it's here for good reasons.
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  1410. I'm so curious why that didn't happen.
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  1411. ​ @CaliCarolyn  💯
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  1412. ​@John-kv7jo True. Fwiw - and I'm aware it's a minority opinion - I'm against capital punishment in all cases, but doubt that prosecutors will push for it here. (Fwiw, only 2% of US counties are responsible for the great majority of DP cases.)
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  1413. Very unlikely, imo. Stats don't point to it. Plus,DP isn't carried out equitable. He's white, no prior felonies, has kids, and LDS influence very strong even tho he's fringe.
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  1414. It's one of many crime documentaries on this channel. We read about it years ago.
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  1415. 😂 Judgmental biddy/sofa ninja vibes on point.
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  1416. ​ @TawnyC_  Take a nap.
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  1417. All anyone has to do is look up the case. Yes. She's out on 50K signature bond.
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  1418. Beautifully put. The tsunami of Dunning-Kruger added to the grotesque trolley of Nancy Grace, et al is the result of the media machinations you describe. Funny thing: I remember when Court TV was the antithesis of the National Enquirer, when balanced trial presentation was their only objective. I can only guess at the profit shift by betraying that format.
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  1419. I'm so lucky. Being civil is everything. I'm still friends with my ex and adore his GF. He's got cancer now and it breaks my heart for them by they're a great love story. You're right. Be kind. Life's short and we see all we've done while here. (I had an NDE and it was great...except for the life review. Yikes.)
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  1420. Fwiw, most people usually do rather badly at guessing 'evil' - simply from photo line-ups. Seeing the sinuster in RH's photo happened after he was arrested. Vibes are understandable, but - facts - let's hope jurors go in with the ability to see tabula rasa.
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  1421. Yikes. Calling an entire population inscrutable. This could be said of numerous groups tbh. Southerners are a good example: plenty of bona fide friendly, but also a lot of vengeful behavior. (I grew up there.) Impossible to make such generalizations... but human nature does it anyway.
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  1422. That's not how she ended up pro se.
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  1423. It's bizarre to see such a principled human defend one of the most 'morality free' guys we've seen on trial. Interesting that his lawyer is bringing up penitence. RBA has displayed no remorse. His words today will make an appeal very difficult. I'm anti-capital punishment. But I'm not blind to the reasons people seek it. I'm against it simply because more killing doesn't fix a thing. Respect to the jury. Take care, everyone.
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  1424. That's a lot for his attorney to do by himself... probably the fight of his career. I think C.D. is guilty, but don't believe in the death penalty in any case. (It's wild seeing the number of 'religious' people who are for it.)
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  1425. They didn't wish to speak yet. Dan's family was always willing to talk to media. Not everyone has the same feelings about this. There are earlier interviews, fwiw.
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  1426. ​@SHARON.I Not always difficult to be related to someone like Brad?
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  1427. ​ @Skyblue-jj9sw 😂😂
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  1428. ​ @nicolethiessen8443  You're talking to one of the many dim commentators who suffers from severe Dunning-Kruger effect: they're legion in the US now and overflowing in legal comment sections.
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  1429. ​ @Masculai1z  They did that in another video.
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  1430. Man, I'm glad there aren't many American citizens like this: cruel, fascist and reactionary - diminishing the best thing about American jurisprudence, basically the envy of the free world.
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  1431. Yet there's this pesky thing called 'due process'. There's also something called the Dunning-Kruger effect and it's reaching tsunami proportion in this comment section.
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  1432. He's not even there. 🤦
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  1433. Any religion that says God is anything but unconditional love - or that He has favorites - is silly.
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  1434. She was in a care facility.
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  1435. Small thing, overall, but amazed at the bad grammar of some of the panel. To think they've got postgraduate CVs is wild.
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  1436. You're like those commenters on plane crash videos who post, 'That's why I'll never fly!' Meanwhile, they ignore the fact that it's still 200K times more dangerous to be in a moving car than to be a passenger on an airplane. Fear looks for ways to prove itself: that's why fearful people miss out... more than they'll ever realize.
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  1437. And you've never misspoke.
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  1438. We ALL have DNA. They already have the killer in jail: he's the guy on trial. (Unless the Dunning-Kruger is too far along for the one posting such a thing.)
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  1439. Lolol armchair ninjas strike again. Yes, there is a lot of evidence. We'll just wait for the legal process to play out.
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  1440. Lots of news platforms are giving him airtime. It's news and people are watching it. Kind of disingenuous to complain just because a story's distasteful. After all, that's the majority of all news stories.
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  1441. 'Little cocky' = articulate female adept in criminal jurisprudence doing bang-up job re: closing argument. Check.
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  1442. Yes, she does. It may be infuriating, but she's got rights throughout the entire trial and the myriad motions contained therein.
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  1443. Unpopular opinion du jour: The judge wisely ignoring testimony that spoke to the facts re: brain growth, his age and the very real possibility that he can be rehabilitated ---> career security. I'm NOT saying Ethan should get light sentence. Revenge factors in too strongly. Our system is so broken. None of this is serves to deter crime. Look at the recidivism rates.
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  1444. Tiny minds, smaller hearts.
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  1445. Hoping beyond hope that Nancy Grace is lost in some other venue.
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  1446. She's actually pretty damn smart. She's soulless, conniving and totally treacherous, but no idiot.
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  1447. Check out statistics and reality before the shrieking caps. I'm not a fan of religion, but naming 2 and calling out an entire church is... dim.
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  1448. ​ @nohmers18 Karma be with thee.
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  1449. ​ @brbrknndy  The whole trial is online.
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  1450. But the shrieking.
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  1451. Audio will be available.
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  1452. June 28 sentencing.
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  1453. ​ @RedHeart1  If I was on the jury and was sent to deliberate after her testimony, I'd vote 'guilty'. 'Karen' replies to honest opinion is extremely disingenuous.
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  1454. Full Nancy Grace mode. ... aaand the itty-bitty foot-stamping emoji to make sure everyone realizes the extent of your opprobrium. '... and I'll say it again... '
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  1455. ​@roostercogburn8175 What an in*el reply.
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  1456. She's still alive.
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  1457. Kingston Street - There were victims who suffered horrific deaths.
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  1458. ​ @andreadamato4482  This x 1000
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  1459. If you're talking death penalty, it's not a deterrent at all: look at Texas and Florida. The US is the only 'civilized' nation that still employs it - to no avail. Look at the stats of population in prison and our crime rates. Clearly, the solutions lie elsewhere. The private sector handling punishment is ignoring rehabilitation which works in places that practice it diligently - especially for non-violent crimes. America needs to regroup... before our implosion is complete.
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  1460. Because they do that for sentencing.
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  1461. Unbelievable, isn't it? 😂
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  1462. It's also amazing to see religious people who are pro DP. The hypocrisy is through the ceiling.
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  1463. ​ @MissWinters1980  Such a Karen thing to say. Sad life.
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  1464. Not going to happen.
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  1465. ​ @Sloan341  It's human nature to say the idiotic things you'll read in these comments. Fortunately, the voir dire for juries can root out the folks who decide guilt without looking at facts.
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  1466. Off subject but the disco dress at 3:30. Yeesh.
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  1467. Read more about it. It's complex and your theory isn't at all a certainty. (The DSM-5 is a good reference.)
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  1468. They won't be 18 for years. Then they can reclaim their real name... and be free from the vacuum the Adelsons try to manufacture.
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  1469. Come on, bruh. There are a lot of cool people who are LDS - and any other faith, probably. (Tbh, dislike religion, but your remark is bigoted.)
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  1470. You may feel quite (self) righteous in your comment, but... sinking pretty low.
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  1471. A bit hyperbolic.
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  1472. Why? No one close to the case thinks other family members had anything to do with the crimes - just Alex. Look at their statements, too.
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  1473. That level of disingenuousness re: DV homicide - especially one leaving 4 children without their mother - is the stuff of the DSM-5.
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  1474. Always good to notice the important aspects of the story at hand, bruh. Karens gonna Karen.
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  1475. Actually she's spot on and doing a great job. These are the questions and issues that are legit part of cross - even tho that's not the right phrase since it's not the trial yet. What's your CV? Just curious.
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  1476. It's still a courtroom: most people act respectfully in those circumstances. Exulting can happen later. She was right: someone died. (I agree with the verdict, but tacky is tacky.) And, yes, the judge should've warned the gallery about outbursts prior to the reading of the verdict.
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  1477. ​ @bbe3034  I realize I'm one of a dwindling bunch who is against the death penalty, but it gets me that Jared's widow - and I can only imagine the depth of her sorrow, fwiw - is pressing for capital punishment for his other kids' mom. I know Shanna's awful, but this will just be more trauma for those two kids who are already enduring the unthinkable. Hope she gets life.. She can hobby stamp for decades.
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  1478. 😂 Just pulling stuff out of a bag. None of us have anything besides speculation re: Odinists. Talk about a conspiracy out of the playbook. Throws the spotlight of very credible evidence against Allen.
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  1479. Lolol. Of all the people who are regularly on TV for far less noteworthy reasons and with no discernable talent, this is what makes you ballistic? 😂
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  1480. ​ @InTheGarden1960  Your preference for facts is understandable, but a modicum of civility might gather it more effectively... Besides ..😂 '... trap shut'!? Cranky old folk vibes. Peace.
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  1481. Triggered by life.
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  1482. Lol from someone who watched 4 interviews.
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  1483. You don't think they thought of this prior to your comment? 🤦
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  1484. DSM-5 worthy mindset in comment.
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  1485. These are noteworthy precisely because they are so exceptional. Most family annihilators and perpetrators of domestic violence - by far - are men. To be clear, women's crimes are ramping up. Hoping the Markel case goes after more than just Dan's ex-brother-in-law, too, for that matter. His ex seems to be getting away with murder - literally.
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  1486. Sorry to nitpick, but - 2 things, please. 1) It's, 'I SAW'...not 'I SEEN' 2) Wendi has immunity. They don't have enough evidence to charge her with a major crime. She's already 'lawyered up' with an immunity expert, according to reports.
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  1487. Old school comment here: they don't have a leg upon which to stand. Looking for crutches.
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  1488. ​ @jennifermitchell3070  That's not why. Chad refused to let anyone testify on his behalf.
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  1489. Can only imagine what the jury thought when their text messages were revealed. Their perfidy is boundless.
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  1490. Not really. The smoke = fire rule occurs in show business, too: we can just see the flames at greater distances.
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  1491. Of course, re: a murder case. we all want to hear further opinions from folks with the shallowest take.
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  1492. ​ @zoroswift  😂 Fgs bruh, it's a YT comment section. No sense going Karen in here.
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  1493. "Thin blue line",
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  1494. Most men are not predators. Where on earth are you getting your 'statistics'? Granted, they're responsible for the bulk of violent crime, and crimes toward women, but that's a fraction of the male population. Suggest you look at actual studies that pertain to facts. (There are myriad ones online that are supported by LE.)
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  1495. Karens gonna Karen.
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  1496. Simple: he has not been convicted. Basic American jurisprudence.
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  1497. If you don't know by now...
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  1498. Read through the comments: you'll probably get some idea. (Pertaining to Drew's old job as a LEO)
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  1499. It's like you didn't listen to any of it. 😂
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  1500. Worst artist ever
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  1501. Hughes resembles/speaks like Confederate incel. They will not bring him rose petals in prison.
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  1502. The cruelty in the comments just make people have more in common with sadists than anyone who cares about justice.
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  1503. Spoken like dense incel, bruh.
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  1504. 😂
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  1505. ​ @PitManenuver Read up on Minix, too. Hope he doesn't get special sentence, assuming he's convicted.
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  1506. ​ @marygoff3332  Truth.
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  1507. Owens called Jorge a monster. The city of Milton deserves him.
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  1508. Ann, educate yourself about penalties.
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  1509. This judge needs to be cloned.
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  1510. Florida woman. (Suit)case closed.
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  1511. I pray they find the truth beyond a reasonable doubt. None of us know the facts now... How splendid to refrain from sofa ninja diatribes.
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  1512. She was remanded to custody. Why are you angry?
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  1513. Yeah, but we're all here watching. 😂
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  1514. ​ @PiratesRock-dm8mt  '... like 'the 16th chapel'. Fyi, the sublime artist who painted the 'Sistine' chapel was the one and only Michaelangelo... who happened to be gay. (Bet you're quite the admirer of Thomas Kinkade jigsaw puzzles... and his own life was very tragic in 'unwoke' ways.) All in all, typically disingenuous remarks from a prime example of the Dunning-Kruger effect... and one whose IQ and inseam appear perilously close.
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  1515. Of course she's getting special treatment. Can anyone imagine the sheriff making similar comments to a POC? Plenty of context. I've been sober for 26 years. This could have happened when I drove loaded - you don't have to be a spoiled brat to screw up. The issue is about drinking and driving - period. Piling on Jamie is point missing 101.
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  1516. Yet the cretinous who support extrajudicial killing seem to ignore the fact that the oligarchs in the new administration are no different from Thompson.
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  1517. Yet look at all of the 'Christians' who are for the death penalty. No difference.
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  1518. This isn't the trial...yet. But it's more involved than most local trial bond hearing.
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  1519. Those were shown at trial.
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  1520. 💯💯
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  1521. All religions' stories are pretty wild. LDS is no exception.
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  1522. Karen has entered the chat.
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  1523. If the commonwealth is trying to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, they're falling way short. It's almost embarrassing. Fwiw, I didn't begin watching this with any POV - even inclined to disbelieve the conspiracy thing. (Still unsure about that, but this witness is pretty sus.)
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  1524. Yikes, that was amazingly dense of her... unless she's joking, and then it's just not funny.
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  1525. It all looks so easy from our armchairs... post facto.
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  1526. It's nothing like Sarah Boone's case. She didn't want to be pro se: Lori does.
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  1527. We are in possession of a fraction of the evidence. Why not wait for legal proceedings to play out before the sofa ninjas take over entirely?
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  1528. 😂
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  1529. Brilliant summation, Vinnie.
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  1530. Indeed. Folks playing up their fifteen minutes. But I do believe the realtor in Hawaii had to do a double-take. It's well off the beaten path. And she took immediate action with law enforcement vs texting, gossiping locally. Props.
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  1531. Shallowest take. Man.
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  1532. ​ @lovepet4565  Karen elsewhere, please.
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  1533. Logan, of all the comments here, I appreciate yours for its succinctness. Facts. Recent convictions indicate that even a sliver of physical evidence added to a mountain of circumstantial evidence weigh a lot in the eyes of a jury. All the armchair ninjas on earth won't change a good prosecution and a thorough investigation. Fwiw, I'm hoping for a fair trial even if it means it won't be televised.
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  1534. What's your issue? 😂
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  1535. Hate is always about who's doing the hating.
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  1536. And thank God that religious argument is not part of American jurisprudence. (*argument)
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  1537. All criminal suspects deserve defense. I just hope this one's convicted.
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  1538. Guess they were past the honeymoon phase.
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  1539. 💯 Notifications on YT rarely work for some reason. Random aside: Was thinking about how many people don't think twice re: joining a YT channel for $2 or $3 a month - especially ones who don't need our money like Court TV, working lawyers' channels, etc. Then imagining how much we could send to help overflowing animal shelters instead. The need to belong/be part of brings out some interesting things in humans. Paz y luz
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  1540. Your unwillingness to lister has zero to do with American jurisprudence. Karens gonna Karen.
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  1541. They get you all excited and it's ratings tsunami.
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  1542. Lots of shrieking. The particular podcasters, ironically, seem to be very articulate and balanced compared to the ones for Murdaugh, for example - and they were virtually deified.
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  1543. Nope.
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  1544. 🤦
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  1545. Chauvin is guilty. Most people who don't wear pillowcases on their heads think so, too. How a human could watch that video and believe he's innocent is, at best, next level disingenuous.
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  1546. 😂 Thus spake the expert on the inner lives of perfect strangers.
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  1547. Lolol what's your CV?
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  1548. Jesus, these crimes are horrific. 'Acts of love'. She needs real prison time. And to stop blaming it on Jodi.
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  1549. It was her decision not to testify and say all of this before the jury.
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  1550. ​ @ileanahernandez1709  Get your Dunning-Kruger hat.
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  1551. Obscene take.
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  1552. I like Joel. Used to watch STS when the channel was new, but think they'd have a lot more subscribers by now if he'd run a tighter ship, i.e., keep interviews on topic, have Fil on less, etc. (Reminds me of the show biz axiom about leaving them wanting more.) Yes, I know they have a fan base, but it's growing more slowly than it should be. It's about working smarter, not harder, since he's already a truly hard worker! (Basing it on similar true crime YT channels that leap-frogged their numbers.)
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  1553. By saying things like that, one becomes like her.
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  1554. It's not the content provider. YouTube is responsible for all ads - frequency, timing, etc.
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  1555. Immature to conflate one's worth as a human w/ fact that they defend criminals. Guess what? That's a cornerstone of our justice system. It's in the Constitution. Fwiw, even 'awful' folks like Nassar, Murdaugh, et al, rate a defense.
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  1556. Naaaah.
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  1557. They have a job. They're not besties. Some people are capable of differentiating between them.
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  1558. ​ @WearingAdos-el1xn  When the Orange Don serves time for his crimes, you mean. Joe Biden is old, but he's not a ra*ist, thief, or - worst of all - an insurrectionist. Less Newsmax, more truth, bro.
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  1559. Lanced like an infected cyst.
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  1560. Yet you (1) get your MDR of outrage, and (2) got to use all the scary emojis, so it worked out.
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  1561. Fwiw, KPCW's website has a trove of pertinent info re: evidence secured for trial. Wow. Apart from the abject evil of the crime, her ineptitude is staggering. This seems like the closest thing to a slam dunk murder trials get. I know, I know: never say never, etc, but a dense seventh grader could have plotted better.
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  1562. TheSaints agreed. What's interesting is the huge amount of folks who call themselves "Christian" who are pro-capital punishing. The deep south in particular. Russell Moore's right: Jesus is too liberal for evangelicals.
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  1563. ​ @Ingrid0000  🤦
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  1564. Dunning-Kruger strikes again. If Cappleman had enough to indict Wendi, she would've done it by now. They can't even get a grand jury to meet. They do not have enough evidence.
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  1565. Does she not know how dangerous it is to serve warrants? Fgs, look at the LEOs who have been killed in the last year doing this very thing. Are you guys running out of 'experts'? (On the other hand, at least you don't interview Nancy Grace, a harpy for our time. )
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  1566. He kind of lost it, though. Was disbarred and needed to be. Sad case.
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  1567. 2% of counties in the US represent the majority of death row inmates. Capital punishment in our country is carried out unfairly and the poor are far more likely to be executed. This isn't what America should be.
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  1568. ​ @sharmisthabhattacharya6166 😂
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  1569. Kent Mawhinney is definitely part of the Dulos plan... I think Troconis was overcharged. Emotions and hunches notwithstanding, they aren't really pulling great evidence from her case. Then again, maybe the discrepancies in her interviews will end up being more damning than not.
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  1570. Would like the Behavior Panel to analyze Martin's statements.
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  1571. 🤦🏻‍♀️
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  1572. Always a dense take. Legit question: where do you expect her to get that experience? Fgs.
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  1573. I'd rather them be great at American jurisprudence, tbh.
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  1574. Lol I'd subscribe to his channel if he had one... and I don't care what he talks about either. ☺️
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  1575. What?
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  1576. Read about the trial online. YT doesn't have everything.
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  1577. Find things you love - things that fill your heart with the purest of lights: abide in those realms for longer stretches of time until those things become the greater need. Because? Life's too short to write so many ----- things.
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  1578. Um, Chad was Tammy's husband. Her father wants to speak for himself and his wife - as in the person who gave birth to Tammy. It's all good.
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  1579. Yes, it is justice - very important verdicts and people worked hard for years to make it happen.
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  1580. ​ @JohnMack-f3f  True, but the sentence in the comment describes intent vs. outcome. Curious to see how much time beyond the minimum she'll get. (Hope that 11 years is served before parole is possible.)
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  1581. His almost juvenile response to things like love triangles, etc make Court TV seventh-grade stuff.
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  1582. They have over 1.5 million subscribers. I'm sure they'll close down the channel if you leave. 😂
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  1583. Let's hope the jury isn't that shallow. 🤦
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  1584. That's before they turned into the pro wrestling version of journalism. (But at least they're not as bad as Nancy Grace.) 😂
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  1585. ​ @THELOVEOFMYLIFE89 It's 'too' bad. Immensely ironic to misspell that particular sentence.
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  1586. 🤣
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  1587. 😂😂😂
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  1588. It's as if they wanted to be caught. Unless they thought the calls were no longer monitored post-conviction. Unwise from any angle.
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  1589. Trump's current one comes to mind.
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  1590. What makes you think homicide detectives didn't do their job in his case? 🤦‍♂️
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  1591. Yikes, when he pronounced 'voir dire' ~ 😂 beauty.
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  1592. Jack Campbell released info - not leaked - about how and why they arrested her last night. The notion that the prosecution is corrupt is subjective and - frankly - in left field. Georgia Cappleman works under Campbell: both of their reputations are impeccable.
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  1593. No. She's Nancy Grace 2.0.
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  1594. Fgs, what a provincial remark - at best. And all Mormon parents are in no way guilty of these crimes. Sounding like someone doesn't mean people replicate behaviors. (Hard to believe this even needs saying.)
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  1595. They were both abusive, but only one is a murderer.
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  1596. They cannot just take the boys because folks think they did bad things. The legal process still matters, fgs. So many of these comments point to extraordinary unfamiliarity with our legal system.
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  1597. ​ @alvaroq2024  You don't know that. It's a horrific life they didn't bargain for.
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  1598. Yep ~ she met him thru his crazy books.
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  1599. ​ @NotSoNormal1987  ❤ Exactly.
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  1600. It really is. Court TV jumped every shark imaginable in the last 2 years. Man, I'm so old - remembering when they were calm and informative vs borderline Nancy Grace shrieking and editorializing. (Matt Johnson is cool. And one kind of nervous guy I get a kick out of.)
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  1601. We're sure they're losing sleep over it. 😂
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  1602. Unhinged county official spontaneously murders 'in broad daylight' seeking bond. Breathe easy, Kentucky.
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  1603. Get someone to show you how to skip ahead in a video.
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  1604. Shallowest takeaway imaginable. But YT.
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  1605. Putting them all in the same box is pretty naive. Think about it.
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  1606. Space Nerd. Exactly. The immature and emotional remarks in the comments make me glad juries' voir dire happen. 😂
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  1607. Read up on things.
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  1608. What utterly bent perspective: this is about a savage murder.
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  1609. They didn't think they had enough proof re: Charles. And he was convicted for Tylee's murder. This is justice.
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  1610. Ditto. Apparently, they are wards of the foster system. It's beyond heartbreaking.
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  1611. Unanimity among pedophiles is quite common.
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  1612. Oh get over yourselves already. Samantha is just as awful as M.
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  1613. ​ @chinopisces  Just as much hubris in disbelief lol
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  1614. Unfortunately, this is known as 'production value' and impossible to escape in contemporary programming. Agree w/you .
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  1615. Not really. The tapes and extra testimony are going to make an enormous impact. Plus, this time around, Katherine Magbanua will testify for the state.
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  1616. Tbh, it's a good idea not to let that happen anyway.
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  1617. Do a modicum of research into the case. (And don't leave out a little thing called 'due process'.)
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  1618. ​ @peppercat8718  Lots of articles about the case are online.
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  1619. 💯💯💯
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  1620. I'm a little surprised the judge allowed her to make a statement. And it's just as likely that her attorneys came up with the motion on their own vs it being Lori's idea. But hey. If it irks her, I'm all for it.
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  1621. ​ @lettiegrant9447  I think they were talking about Jordan
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  1622. 😂 Least corrupt person in the video, tho.
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  1623. Unhinged shrieking helps clarify so much.
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  1624. Three words for you: Strunk and White.
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  1625. That doesn't fly very often these days unless it's a bench trial. It may be nothing short of ironic that he didn't elect to have one for this case.
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  1626. Hard to believe his widow wants death penalty for Jared's kids' Mom. As if more killing will make things better in any way. Saying you love his kids and then - damn. It's still their mother. Yes, she's horrific, but the loss for them would still be immense. (And I'm aware that the majority of crime video fans seem to support the DP in a lot of cases. There are some of us who don't like it on principle.) Take care, everyone.
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  1627. Good idea to research Judge Kierny's CV before presuming that she's unqualified. (She's not.) Citing cause would be interesting, especially if your own academic qualifications are posted, too.
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  1628. Exactly. 😂 Or she'd turn it off before the courtroom part.
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  1629. It's not that big of a deal.
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  1630. Because I've had 2 NDEs - at 4 and 19 - the notion that God has favorites is exactly that: a story. So is the one that says He damns people, even if life reviews are immensely powerful. (To those who have been very unkind or worse, I can imagine the pain would be extraordinary.) Millions of NDE accounts overlap with the same experiences. I'm glad they're convincing many to consider Oneness. Religion seems to divide and inculcate prejudice more than not. Peace.🩵
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  1631. I'm glad I've had 2 NDEs. The idea that God has favorites is... pretty wild. (How can He be anything but unconditional love?) Millions of other NDE accounts describe similar experiences. The difference between spirituality and religion is like the one between, well, tsunamis and water droplets. Paz y luz ✨️
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  1632. ​ @Juke582 They said he was definitely nervous when they arrested him.
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  1633. 😂😂
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  1634. Fwiw, the channel Surviving the Survivors posted it all in real time last X. Props to Joel & Co.
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  1635. Court TV pole vaults over the entire shark-infested body of water with this.
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  1636. ​ @Fckyourfeelingsboo What do you think 'DDS' stands for? 🤦
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  1637. Wth are you even saying?
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  1638. It hardly seems like they have enough to press felony murder/conspiracy charges against Wendi. We can hope for karma - that Dan's sons will realize the perfidy of the entire Adelson family soon. I'm so sorry for those children and wish healing for them.
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  1639. ​ @rickvenlo1362 😂
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  1640. And tossing around words like 'psycho' is clearly balanced behavior in itself. (There are ways to disagree without stooping to invective.)
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  1641. Vinnie is so over the top.
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  1642. True. The boys will be 18 in a few more years, at which time they can at least get their name back. By now, the Adelson family vacuum must be dissolved, and both of Dan's sons know far more about what really happened. Let's hope that they've some source of love, stability, and help with the trauma they've endured.
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  1643. This bugged me most of all. Shouting from the rooftops, indeed. He did none of that..
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  1644. You can't get enough 'likes' for this comment, but the drama queens seem to be leading the pack when it comes to pre-trial guilt pronouncement.
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  1645. I hope they disallow cameras - just to help ensure an appeal-proof conviction. The right to a fair trial far outweighs the 'public's right to know'. (The latter is not a real right, btw, but you'd never realize it by reading most comment sections. Man. The density.) Tbh, I'm curious, too, but like to see hysterical folks - drama queens/kings - thwarted.
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  1646. And you're being forced to watch?
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  1647. 💯
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  1648. Adding charges to the case post-conviction? 🤣 Gotta love the sofa ninjas of Court TV. Itty-bitty Nancy Grace vibes sprinkled like glitter.
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  1649. Julie's histrionics are downright unseemly and childish.
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  1650. ​ @shakennotstirred6387  That's not why he got out. It's worth doing a modicum of research to check facts before assuming there wasn't enough evidence: there was.
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  1651. Off topic: These anchors' voices almost make Nancy Grace appealing by comparison. A ledge is after that.
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  1652. 😂
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  1653. Clink.
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  1654. I hope they disallow cameras. An appeal proof conviction will be easier to get without them... even if I'm just as curious as the next person.
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  1655. Sofa ninja knows all.
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  1656. Just thinking about what Dan's sons will feel like when they're old enough to see their grandmother at 'the bump'. Tough to imagine this level of betrayal...or malevolence. I'm so sorry they lost their father in any circumstance, but this only gets uglier as it unfolds. Fwiw, this is one of the only body language experts that seemed logical to me.
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  1657. 💯
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  1658. Strunk and White rejoice. 🎉
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