Comments by "Luke Thompson" (@WhiteStoneName) on "Fr. Peter Heers u0026 Fr. Silouan Justiniano - Perennialism Pt. 2" video.

I’m onboard with the need of the documentary “what is a Christian?”
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12:00 “the totality of the human being as body and soul” What/who is Christ’s Body? Where is it? I agree 100%, Christ’s body is not merely equivalent to those who self-identify with it *in their minds*.
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I’ve left two comments about Fr Peter’s comments about the “intellectual exclusivity of Christ” at 5:10 - 5:30 but they keep disappearing. I don’t know why. Maybe it’s because I left a link to a First Things article Traditio Deformis by David Bentley Hart on poor exegesis, election, and Romans 9. Essentially: the pattern is election FOR future inclusion.
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@nathankurtz5960 I see a body as a unity of a multiplicity. Which is necessarily rooted in logos, yes. Seeds of the Logos, logoi. So, in a sense, anything that has being or is alive, is participating in the "Only Existent One". This is where the game of who is in and who is out gets tricky. The perennialism question should be prefaced by a bigger question, imo. Is there a Unity behind all distinction? I left a longer comment in the Pt. 1 video about this.
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@MartaSpendowska I agree. But there are many corresponding questions to that statement. Whose sacraments? Who decides which, when, and administrated by whom? Apostolic succession? Whose? Which authority gets to decide? Also, mysteries are by definition iconic and personal and non-static, non-monistic. The tendency to police boundaries is a tricky business and tends to be rooted in a couple things: conservative temperaments (whether individual or communal) AND the false-equivalence of a conservative temperament to fidelity to Christ. I'm using "conservative" in the broad sense. I'm not accusing you of this, necessarily. I don't know you. But it's very easy to answer questions with platitude-level answers. And, on one level, that is great. Platitudes are used and there for a reason. They are not arbitrary. They are a rule of sorts, but there are always exceptions to rules. Centers and fringes, and we ought not harvest or trim the fringes (the exceptions).
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@MartaSpendowska I wasn’t intending to imply that the Sacraments and Mysteries of the Church are platitudes. I meant that positing them as a metric for who is and who is not in the Mystical Body of Christ can be a platitude-level answer with a lot of baked-in assumptions, for all disagreeing parties. I’m not familiar with Father Heers work or thinking. I’ve maybe seen one Protecting Veil video (which I don’t remember) and these two perennialism videos.
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Yep. These kinds of objections/questions are good & important.
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@jeremyfirth ok. I didn’t know that. Good to know. Thanks!
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