Comments by "That Car Guy" (@ThatCarGuy) on "Binkov's Battlegrounds"
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Never? Hell it took the US a month to sink their own carrier. These things are hard to sink, if the US, carry the best planes ever,and are guarded by a missile fortress. Iran couldnt even sink that fake aircraft carrier made from an oil tanker. Ships that large are just flat out hard to sink.
"The U.S. Navy knows this from experience. In 2005, the Navy itself targeted the decommissioned carrier America in order to determine just how much punishment the vessel could withstand before slipping beneath the waves.
"The ship was pummeled by explosions both above and below the waterline," The War Zone reporter Tyler Rogoway explained in 2018. "After nearly four weeks of these activities, the carrier was scuttled. On May 14, 2005, the vessel's stern disappeared below the waterline and the ship began its voyage to the seafloor."
"America stood up to four weeks of abuse and only succumbed to the sea after demolition teams scuttled the ship on purpose once and for all, it's clear that America was built to sustain heavy damage in combat and still stay afloat."
Consider also the carrier-shaped pontoon ship that Iran built as a scale target for a 2015 war game. While small and flimsy compared to a real flattop, the pontoon vessel itself endured an intensive assault. "Iran struck the faux carrier with a barrage of anti-ship missiles, then swarmed it with small boats and then landed commandos on it," Rogoway reported.
Still, the fake flattop apparently remained afloat."
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Not much as there is a literal missile fortress surrounding it. Destroyers carry ESSMs which can be quad packed. So say 20 cells have ESSMs, thats 80 missiles, say it has 30, that's 120 per ship with 5+ destroyers and 1-2 cruisers in a fleet during wartime, and Submarines depending on armament. thats around 1000 missiles alone defending the carrier... You can launch off 10 missiles per 1 enemy missile. Now add in all the offensive weaponry its strike group is firing off and launching aircraft will take out SAM systems firing off missiles giving their position away.
Also remember the US took a month to destroy it's own carrier at point blank ranges and had to end up scuttling it.
"On 25 February 2005, a ceremony to salute America and her crew was held at the ship's pier in Philadelphia, attended by former crew members and various dignitaries. She departed the Inactive Ship Maintenance Facility on 19 April 2005 to conduct the aforementioned tests. The experiments lasted approximately four weeks. The Navy tested America with underwater explosives, watching from afar and through monitoring devices placed on the vessel. These explosions were designed to simulate underwater attacks.
After the completion of the tests, America was sunk in a controlled scuttling on 14 May 2005 at approximately 11:30, although the sinking was not publicized until six days later. At the time, no warship of that size had ever been sunk, and effects were closely monitored; theoretically the tests would reveal data about how supercarriers respond to battle damage"
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@mickeyg7219 "As Binkov stated earlier, the F-35's RCS figure is outdated."
No it's not, how hard it is to look it up yourself?
"Even if the F-22 is painted with a new RAM, the materials that made up its internal structure can't be changed. "
The F22 is designed better for stealth on it's design alone then the F35... At this point im starting to think you are a troll...
"The material that made up the F-35's airframe is pretty much stealth from inside out"
.... The F35 uses a cheaper version of the F22 materials... Please just stop already. This is one of the reason the F35 is so much cheaper then the F22.
"Structurally, the F-35 drew upon lessons from the F-22; composites comprise 35% of airframe weight, with the majority being bismaleimide and composite epoxy materials. Newer production lots include some structural nanocomposites, such as carbon nanotube-reinforced epoxy."
"Most countries have a small air force, so they don't really need a specialized fighter,"
The F22 is an air superiority fighter... It's not specialized... Im talking to a troll at this point. Every fighter has a specific role. Like the F16 also a air superiority fighter...
"The F-35 has a better range than the F-22, and is less maintenance-intensive. "
You literally have no idea what you are talking about.
The longest range F35 can fly 1,200 nmi (2,200 km) the F22 can fly 1600+ nmi....
"It may not be better than the F-22 in air-to-air role (and even that is arguable since in BVR, they should be about equal, but the F-35 has an edge due to the capability to cue target with helmet and its IR sensors are much more powerful)."
The F22 uses the AN/APG-77 radar which the F35 uses the AN/APG-81 which is literally a smaller weaker version... Though because of the DAS on the F35 the AN/APG-77 got a huge software upgrade for bombing, which as stated is the only area the F35 does better.
Please stop trolling now, i literally broke down your entire comment.
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@Drew Peacock "You're not going on about ESSMs any more I notice. Good because they're totally irrelevant to NEW threats that carriers will face."
Please troll someone else or I will just block you. ESSMs are meant for anti-ship cruise missiles. They work as intended.
"Source re a minimum of 10?"
https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/AD1046487.pdf
"And SM-3 needs to be 100% effective 100% of the time, which no missile is."
No they do not as you send multiple interceptors. You are correct on one thing though no missile is 100 percent effective.
"What? They have to be SOMEWHAT manoeuvrable because ships at sea aren't static targets. If they weren't manoeuvrable they couldn't hit their targets."
The only time BMs can maneuver is in their boost phase and part of their midcourse phase before reaching it's highest trajectory then detaches from it's booster, sends out it's warhead/mirvs all of which are unpowered and meant to hit a stationary non moving target.
"Some ballistic missiles have large CEPs, but ballistic ANTI-SHIP missiles use mid-course guidance correction from satellites. The missiles use their on-board guidance in their terminal phase."
There is no such thing as an anti-ship ballistic missile as proven by math, patent, etc. They move to fast as proven with math.
"What? What patent? What are you talking about?"
I literally posted the patent... Please troll someone else im about ready to block you. Actually read this part of my response this time or next time I will just block you.
"Lets using the Zircon missile for example as it's a slower moving ballistic missile. It's top speed is mach 9 converting to KM/S that's about 3km/s. Now say you wanted to move a single degree for 5 seconds at 3km/s you would be off target 15km and keep in mind if somehow the ballistic/hypersonic missile still has it's engine in the terminal phase and could power itself, it would move more then a single degree sending it way off course as it's moving to fast, this is why every nation still uses sub-sonic missile, they can maneuver.
"A ballistic missile follows a ballistic trajectory to deliver one or more warheads on a predetermined target. These weapons are guided only during relatively brief periods—most of the flight is unpowered"
"Russian patent number 2579409 relates to the field of rocket technology, and more specifically to hypersonic cruise missiles equipped with a hypersonic ramjet engine. The invention describes a method of application and device hypersonic cruise missile (CRPD), allowing to solve the problem of performing a combat mission to destroy ground and surface targets of such a missile. The described invention is designed to maximize the combat potential of the CMP with the scramjet.
The design mode for the scramjet are high-altitude cruise conditions while maintaining the estimated cruise speed, and the need to reduce the altitude and flight speed creates difficult technical problems due to the fact that:
an engine designed to perform a hypersonic mid-flight at high altitude is not able to continue to work at low-altitude trajectory sections associated with a decrease in the flight number M, hence, the rocket must approach the ground or surface target with an inactive engine;
characteristics of sustainability and controllability of CRPD with inactive scramjet significantly deteriorate, loss of stability becomes possible;
there is also a danger of destruction of the scramjet design due to the increase in pressure in the flow part of the engine while reducing the CMP from the march height before hitting the target."
"Ballistic/hypersonic missiles literally detach from their engines and in the terminal phase are unpowered."
What are you referring to? HGVs?
I swear it's like im speaking another language to you. I don't know how to make it any more simple then requoting myself.
"Ballistic/hypersonic missiles literally detach from their engines and in the terminal phase are unpowered."
Wiki is a terrible source to use, as anyone can type whatever they want. Hence why I use military sources, patents, and math. But even though you seem to like wiki so much they even state ballistic missiles do no move.
"A ballistic missile follows a ballistic trajectory to deliver one or more warheads on a predetermined target. These weapons are guided only during relatively brief periods—most of the flight is unpowered."
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